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wasn't sure whether to put this in the other games board or discussion, so staff, feel free to do whatever to this thread.
Anyway if you hadn't heard, apparently AK had the plug pulled on it.
It's all done.
No more work to be done, all progress is halted.
Just check the forum:
http://arokai.proboards.com/ (http://arokai.proboards.com/)
Now normally I'd let someone else post about this but apparently a whole bunch of things had gone down behind the scenes, and this was brought to my attention via dA Journal post in the dA group AK had(Warning, author used the occasional profanity and had a 'negative tone' for part of it, so be warned as you read the information. It also has the chance to be biased, so use your brain here as you read):
http://arokai-game.deviantart.com/journal/Some-Clarification-RIPInPieces-609239338 (http://arokai-game.deviantart.com/journal/Some-Clarification-RIPInPieces-609239338)
Honestly, personally, truly, I'm not surprised by any of this.
but the MIA donated money is sure surprising i will not lie.
So I leave ya'll with a few questions:
Do you think this is legit?
Is it accurate?
If this is true, what do you think of it?
Were you even surprised?
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My friend sent this to me about 10 minutes ago and it is well worth the read. It's honestly a shame and I feel for those who are disappointed by this.
Personally, I'd fallen out of touch with the Aro'kai community since 2012 so this was kind of a surprise to me --- I did know people who were at one point friends with 'Onowl'.
I'm pretty sure this is legit, seeing as there's really no reason to trash AK because it's already been pretty much gone..
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Moving this to the Other Games board :)
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Lmao. Rip arokai.
As a former staff member I can say that everything in that journal is true. Kahara is onowl, voxlyons, zaikaikee, and carnage to name a few. Who knows what other accounts she owns at this point.
When I was admitted into staff, there was no progress at all done. The source was broken and no one ever posted. The one thing that got done was that we figured out what lore to use. But now the creator of the lore, shusuke, has retracted it from ak. So nothing's been done since 2011.
I'm glad to see it go. I won't go into much drama but me and the poster of that journal have been mulling over these things for years. Ever since Kahara came to me admitting to their multiple accounts and such, I've been uncomfortable working for them. I only stayed because of the real and lasting friendships I made with other users.
It was a tough spot to be in because we were afraid of Kahara. But now that everything is out in the open, life is so less stressful and I can finally move on.
Though the journal adds that progress may be made courtesy of marona, I wouldn't count on it. She is busy and unable to do all there needs to do to keep arokai alive. Especially after this release of information.
Good riddance ak.
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There's hope that the real owner of Arokai (which is not Onowl) can reboot the whole thing.
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So much drama, but at least I don't have to get my hopes up anymore. c:
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Ah yes, this. I think I'll just copy'n'paste my comment from deviantart, as I don't really have much else to say:
"I think first of all, before I say anything else, I'd like to give a hella ton of thanks to you CCLM. Thank you for stepping up and deciding to tell us all the well deserved truth, I think I'm right in saying that the whole AK community owes you.
I can't really remember when I joined Aro'kai, it must have been quiet a few years back, but throughout my time there it was immediately evident that there wasn't much progress being made. As much as we were always assured that there was work being done behind the scenes, it was painfully obvious that nothing was really happening. To the lack of updates, to the lack of activity, everything seemed to be on a consistent and steady downhill roll.
And what makes all of this even worse is the fact that the community was so patient. So enduring. And above all just so friendly and welcoming and open. And for what? To have it all shoved back in our faces again?
I am incredibly glad I didn't have the money to be tempted into donating to the AK development, because the lack of evidence as to where the money ended up might be the most disgusting part about all of this. The fact that so many people had enough hope in the progression in this game to invest money in it for so many years, all for it to disappear without a trace, is really just sickening. It's the thought that this whole thing was just a scam for our money that really brings it all crashing down to reality.
It is sincerely heart breaking to see Aro'kai go, with the amazing community and awesome concepts and the years of perseverance.
It it was nice while it lasted, but I think we all knew that we couldn't carry on playing along with their lies forever. "
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rest in potatoes arokai
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I'm honestly not surprised this thing never actually got finished. Nothing really was ever done. Like it doesn't take 6 years or so to make a game, or even a sandbox game to be exact. Back when I was active this was the talk of the forums, this Aro'Kai game. So seeing that its shut down now doesn't really surprise me cause after 6 or so years, nothing has been done.
As for the person who wrote this I kinda find it sad people would hop on other accounts and kinda playing the blame game when real crap was never really finished at the end. Nothing was ever done, like....ever. Do I think this is legit...well...I got no other reason to think otherwise...I mean its been 6 freaken years so sure. I kinda did knew of the account hack that this person was talking about since I think a fairly long time ago some Aro'Kai and Feral Heart drama had taken place on here and there was a huge fight between this Onowl person and Raz but yeah....all history now.
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Personally, this made me a bit sad, since I've been hyped for Aro'Kai for so long, and it's one of the only games I thought had a slight bit of hope. Maybe Isles of Eventide could have some hope, though, and some other games.
But other than that, I don't think I'm very surprised either. And it's not exactly new for me to see an in-progress game like this dying off as well. (Probably because of it being underfunded, not having enough people working on it, etc. Games are very hard to make.)
Although... Since I haven't really been around the Aro'Kai community very much in the past few years, I can't say I expected this, but eh. //shrug// What /can/ you expect.
EDIT: Although in the comments, Marona seems argumentive against this herself. But... >_>
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Let's not forget that Raz took the bullet quite a few years ago regarding this here, trying to raise a concern and possibly warn users:
http://www.feral-heart.com/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=2&jfile=index.php&topic=35806.0 (http://www.feral-heart.com/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=2&jfile=index.php&topic=35806.0)
Even though this is in a sense old business, it's good someone on the inside stepped forward and told this with some more reasons as of why and from their own perspective. I'm glad they're getting back what they deserve honestly, living a lie and trying to attack and troll everyone else into submission in any means possible on the internet is quite "sad".
I just hope the map is going to clear up, and everyone will be able to get back to business. Personally I'm going to keep my distance from now on if possible because it's not worth my time, and the person who did this is not either.
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Honestly, in regards to what Red stated above, I saw Raz's post and honestly saw it coming. I was never a huge active participant in the Aro'Kai community, but I did kind of watch from a distance. I am not surprised by this one bit, because I lost hope for the progression of the game years ago. Things seemed fishy for a while, but now we just know the truth, don't we? I don't think the DA post is fake, nor do I believe they are lying, because I've had a lot of experience with users making a web of accounts and tangling themselves in lies, so it is a definite possibility.
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smh at the trolling in that dA journal's comments, but lmao at their ammo.
I can confirm @CometTrail's comment on the staff boards being pretty empty. There wasn't much activity going on. There were a lot of moments where some of us would brainstorm and try to spark some life or activity for a while, but it'd never really go anywhere, for multiple reasons.
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im not surprised at all about Arokai dying tbh
I was a bit surprised about onowl though...
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Actually, Iam not EVEN surpised -_- Progress was poor, updates too. It was obvious that there is no future for Arokai. It was 6 years if I remember right, and during these years, nothing much has been done. It's a big pity but whatever, Rest in "pieces" Aro'kai. And just like Kiaz said, the patience of community was incredible! They deserved so much more than this...
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Well... I was not involved in the community very much at all, but I will say that this came as a surprise to me. I always thought that Aro'kai would be one of the few games to actually have a release.
Oh well, I guess. I'm very glad that I did not have any money to donate to them. The whole thing is screwed up.
P.S. Regarding the money, can this go into the matter of law?
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I was never too hyped about the progression of Arokai, but it really is a shame to see a game with such potential fall this way.
Hoping the users in the Arokai community pull through hard times and settle the whole issue with the money.
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Aro'kai is dead, huh? Can't say I didn't see this coming. It did look good with a decent community back in late 2009/2010 when the streams and stuff were held, but pretty soon cracks began to show, and I had a gut feeling the complete game would never see the light of day. Guess that hunch was right after all.
Can't say I'm surprised it died in a fiery ball of drama, either. Just goes to show the true nature of these folks despite the nice facade.
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At least that is finally over.
I have heard about it...one some years back and it seemed interesting, now I'm hearing about it again only to find out that it was practically a bust.
Community has some good patience ( me included ) for waiting this long and sad that my uneasy feelings about it have been confirmed. But oh well.
Who knows, maybe something else will rise and will actually bring potential. ~
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I'm honestly not surprised this happened.
I was at first hyped for the fact that Aro'kai was in "creation", but after seeing so many years pass without any news of progression I eventually learnt that there was no point having any hopes for this game. I stalked their community for a while but yet soon lost complete interest; sure this is a very unexpected way for Aro'kai to die but meh, I'm not shocked.
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Has anyone else noticed that both the journal and their DeviantArt was deleted? I was hoping to see more information on this if anything came up.
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Has anyone else noticed that both the journal and their DeviantArt was deleted? I was hoping to see more information on this if anything came up.
Yes, and I find this fact quite strange. I don't know much, as I didn't follow the Aro'kai dA group (or know how group journals work, for that matter), but to my knowledge, the journal should still be up on Onowl/Superfeesh's dA. I'd have to do some digging, so I'll edit this if I find it or not.
EDIT: Onowl also deleted their dA, "corndogbutts." Make of that what you want, but the journal is never to be seen again. Unless, of course, Onowl decides to be more generous and let us curious folk know, but I doubt it; with their supposed shadiness in the past and such.
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Ah yes, Aro'kai.
I remember when I first heard about it, I was hyped, as it looked like a wonderful game. But after years had passed by with little progress, I lost interest. That's why personally, I'm not surprised and, well, not to be rude but I don't really care that much. It would've been a great game, yes, but it's not even worth it to me now that all of this has happened. Especially the drama with Kahara, etc.
I kind of expected this to happen tbh.
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I realized I had to censor some of the swears due to our board rules. One of the screenshots is still missing because I have to censor it also but yeah here was the journal. I'll edit that other screenshot in later.
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Just a general warning is that one of their aliases is also dogtagxo though I'm not sure it's something they will stick around to longer as it's already been used, granted if they really wanted to pull new stunts in the future they'd probably start by making up a new name like other times.
https://www.furaffinity.net/user/dogtagxo (https://www.furaffinity.net/user/dogtagxo)
Last journal appears to be about moving accounts but it was posted 8 months ago and of course no information on where they headed off to cause more damage and trick more people. A bit interesting since something else had just taken place about 8 months ago : )
All I can say is. Be careful as no one really knows what identity she's lurking around on in our communities currently, and if you're someone involved with any kind of project or work I'd keep eyes and ears open so it doesn't get spoiled or pulled down by unnecessary drama.
Might not be "on point" about arokai, but something related-ish as they're involved with what has taken place.
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Man, this rabbit hole keeps getting deeper doesn't it?
It's all coming together now.
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Indeed it is. I guess, when you look back at the hectic and suspicious events that have happened in the past few years, it kind of seems like all of this was blaringly obvious. And many people did see this coming.
It's just a big shame really. All of it.
It's a shame that such an amazing concept had to go to waste. It's a shame that the amazing and patient community was let down so badly. It's a shame that people who wanted to back this project were robbed of their money. It's a shame that so many people were manipulated so easily by one person.
This whole fiasco is a shame.
But I guess the only thing we can really do is learn from our mistakes and carry on.
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After seeing those screenshots and hearing what Red stated, this rabbit hole really is getting deeper. Indeed it is a shame. But like I said before, it really was expected. Just sucks that this is what became of it.
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Thank you for posting the journal LordSuragaha! I never got a chance to see it. Anyway, I've been doing a lot of investigating myself to figure out what happened to the real Superfeesh/Superfluous and I haven't turned up much. The KITO thread has some extra information though (as well as some things that I found out through my searching) if anyone wants to see it: http://www.kitopen.com/t4347-kahara-the-most-elaborate-lie-told (http://www.kitopen.com/t4347-kahara-the-most-elaborate-lie-told)
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What a shame. I was excited for this game when I first joined the community back in 2012 but I lost interest with the complete lack of anything happening. I recently got curious to see what had happened to the it and boy was I surprised to find this whole mess. e A e
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I would say "By the gods.... what a twist" but to be honest, I always imagined this game going down in a dramatic, flaming death led by the staff themselves.
However, I was wrong. It was led by one staffer. 2/3 ain't bad.
What a shame. I was excited for this game when I first joined the community back in 2012 but I lost interest with the complete lack of anything happening. I recently got curious to see what had happened to the it and boy was I surprised to find this whole mess. e A e
COINCIDENTAL CIRCUMSTANCE BUDDIES
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Tbh I don't really mind that Aro'kai is dead. Fortunately I got hyped for other games beforehand lol.
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The only thing I'm truelly currious about is -- What happened to the REAL Superfeesh?
Did Kahara kill her? Take her out and replace her? IS FEESH A SYNTH? Wait wrong game...
It's really weird because CCLM and I were really close once -- well I felt we were close, we had fun and did some art trades, drew something for her recently but she sorta just forgot, I ended up gifting it to her but -- anyway she became staff and this weird disconnect happened.
I suppose this whole deal is why -- but it does explain A LOT of strange things that happened in the forum.
I'm one of those REALLY old members, from back when the staff and the members totaled about 12 of us. XD
We all knew each other you know? But then certain member of the staff just started leaving, people that were my friends, like Maslien.
If anyone remembers her... ; n ;
When major parts of the staff started disappearing for long times, so did I. Then our skype group went quiet. Maslein stopped playing monster hunter with me, she stopped drawing, and someone on the staff was very sick I think-- no one would really talk about it.
Then Kaharah got a staff position. Didn't even really know who she was. But after a while, Super (Onowl at this point) was starting to be more active -- I had mostly already given up on the game, but I did think it was nice to have her being more active... Though --- something felt REALLY off about it. Normally Super felt very mature and soft spoken with a good sense of humor but -- this Onowl was oddly out spoken and would say she was into a lot of things that I honestly didn't think she'd be hugely into.
But in light of this.. I see why...
I just want to know where my old friends went. I think I'm a little more than mad that A'K made them break away from eachother like it did. *sigh*
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I know this is a couple months old, but I would like to add some commentory on this subject.
I was a friend (well, a Skype friend) with Onowl for a short time. I even donated at least 50 bucks to the Aro'kai development. The friendship all ended when they started threatening me for some reason, and in desperation to get them away, I deleted their account off my friend list and blocked them.
I cannot remember what On's Skype was, but I'm just glad that it's gone.
In all honesty, I expected Aro's downfall around 2013. I was still patiently waiting for the game after then, but I was extremely upset when I got news of its death. As what happened to my money, I don't know. I can only guess that they took it and used it for their own pleasure.
I would like to help out more in investigating this, but I'm very short on time. Actually, I'm still on hiatius now.
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A crew that appears to be creating a some what similar game (diverse species in high quality detail, is Cereal Soup ! I myself am highly dissapointed in "Onowl" and the whole Aro'kai drama but once progress came to a complete stop, it wasn't really unexpected.
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I haven't spent much time looking at Arokai, But from what I had saw it looked like an excellent game. Although, Primtive Call seems like an outstanding game overall! I would like Arokai to be seen worked on again, As it seemed like such a unique game. But as I said earlier, Primitive Call seems to be turning out like the new Arokai.
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What a shame.
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I haven't spent much time looking at Arokai, But from what I had saw it looked like an excellent game. Although, Primtive Call seems like an outstanding game overall! I would like Arokai to be seen worked on again, As it seemed like such a unique game. But as I said earlier, Primitive Call seems to be turning out like the new Arokai.
Not true
Primitive Call is simply on a break - the staff is still very active on the forum! The staff are human beings and like everyone else need breaks sometimes. Don't go putting out false accusations. Unless the staff all suddenly disappear, I really doubt Primitive Call will be stopping production.
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I haven't spent much time looking at Arokai, But from what I had saw it looked like an excellent game. Although, Primtive Call seems like an outstanding game overall! I would like Arokai to be seen worked on again, As it seemed like such a unique game. But as I said earlier, Primitive Call seems to be turning out like the new Arokai.
Not true
Primitive Call is simply on a break - the staff is still very active on the forum! The staff are human beings and like everyone else need breaks sometimes. Don't go putting out false accusations. Unless the staff all suddenly disappear, I really doubt Primitive Call will be stopping production.
Maybe you should try to read my post more clearly, When I said "Primitive Call seems to be turning out like the new Arokai," I simply meant that it's not on break or stopped production. But that it's looking like a great game.
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It's best to stay on topic.
Going to lock this thread as I see no point in us all beating a dead horse. Arokai is dead. Nothing more can come from discussing its death.
It's just unfortunate it went on as long as it did without bearing any tangible fruit. Sad to see potential squandered and a community deceived for as long as it was.