Feral Heart

Game & Forum Discussion => Game Discussion => Topic started by: BlackSunset on August 12, 2020, 10:16:08 am

Title: Is the game dying?
Post by: BlackSunset on August 12, 2020, 10:16:08 am
Haven't been around for awhile on FH and to my surprise..I've never seen this game have little player base? It used to have 100-150+ players active which is more compared to even a well known game like Battlefield Hardline *le chuckle*
I supposed they are more active during the weekends..?
Or maybe this pandemic is stopping them instead of them playing a little more?
Sad to come in grounds just to see 10 people or less.
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: Dark_heart on August 12, 2020, 05:10:07 pm
Actually some people left after FHu drama, old maps, & October free mod (or how it's called). Much drama happened here, also a lot of floofs left for FHU. Actually not sure is it dying, it depends what time you're arriving - but yes, last time game is really empty.
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: Kouvinxx on August 12, 2020, 05:18:24 pm
I don't think it's dying. There are still a lot of dedicated, active members. Sometimes it depends what time you get on as well. Yes, there was some drama and some people left for something different but I think it will all pick up again soon. c:
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: Groogle on August 12, 2020, 05:20:23 pm
Pretty much what Dark said. A lot of the users up and left due to the drama on FH previously. I can't say where we stand as a whole, but so far its pretty shaky since its known the activity on the forum and games has dropped drastically. All I can say its up to the newbies and the staff to bring back everyone. I honestly don't know what else to say, but just remain strong ^^
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: Garfield. on August 12, 2020, 05:22:06 pm
Yeah, the reasons mentioned by Dark_Heart are the ones. Hoping we can grow back and we're doing. <3
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: BlackSunset on August 12, 2020, 05:26:51 pm
FHU? What is that? o.O Is that like a new launcher? And what drama..sheesh must of been alot of people involved in this. Oh well..let's grab the little people that we have and cuddle up in grounds xD
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: Ame88 on August 12, 2020, 05:51:34 pm
As the above have said, some of our more active members have left due to the recent drama that had surfaced. It's very unfortunate what had happened and how it played out, but nonetheless we are still here. FH is stubborn, ain't it?

It all comes down to how your look at it, personally. We still have people registering day in and day out, however I feel that most of them are turned off due to how little people are actually online at the time, on top of the fact that most take their convos into PM so local is pretty much more or less dead. It leaves the game feeling empty, so I'm sure they loose interest very quickly.

Quote from: BlackSunset on August 12, 2020, 05:26:51 pm
FHU? What is that? o.O Is that like a new launcher? And what drama..sheesh must of been alot of people involved in this. Oh well..let's grab the little people that we have and cuddle up in grounds xD

FHU- FeralHeart Unleashed (I prefer to call it FU- Feral Unleashed) is a project put together by xSpirit which uses an older version of FeralHeart's coding. It's entirely separate from FeralHeart, however.

Yes! The power of cuddles shall always bring us together! lmao
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: Oddonelynx on August 12, 2020, 07:05:52 pm
No, it's not for sure since we still get players joining in! It's a bit empty but it's definitely not dying.
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: wolfdog01 on August 12, 2020, 08:06:55 pm
As long as there are people to play it, a game will never die. Has it declined in members? Sure, and they have their reasons. But we're still here.
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: Skullfrost on August 12, 2020, 08:32:56 pm
Quote from: BlackSunset on August 12, 2020, 05:26:51 pm
FHU? What is that? o.O Is that like a new launcher? And what drama..sheesh must of been alot of people involved in this. Oh well..let's grab the little people that we have and cuddle up in grounds xD

FHU stands for FeralHeart Unleashed, which is, basically, a new FH server created by xSpirit and officially given permission by KovuLKD himself. xSpirit was an ex-programmer for this version of FH, but left due to creative differences.

He then managed to get into contact with LKD, who sent him the Full FH 1.13 source code, as well as the source for the FB game, Feral Tales, which is 100% proof that it's the real Kov.

So, basically, FHU is another official FeralHeart server supported by Kovu, run by xSpirit separately from this version of FH. FHU is being given new features and updates that this version of FH is unable to implement(because Raz.)

I'd link it, but FHU's link is censored here apparently, for some reason- but you can find it easily by searching it.
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: MagmaPool on August 13, 2020, 02:01:52 am
Thought mister lkd lost everything in a computer crash. I'm sure the dude stole the code when working here. Nobody anywhere has been able to get ahold of lkd, so how come this xspirit dude is so special in contacting him? Seems farfetched to me, and a little too convenient.
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: G4RG0YLE on August 13, 2020, 05:40:16 am
Quote from: MagmaPool on August 13, 2020, 02:01:52 am
Thought mister lkd lost everything in a computer crash. I'm sure the dude stole the code when working here. Nobody anywhere has been able to get ahold of lkd, so how come this xspirit dude is so special in contacting him? Seems farfetched to me, and a little too convenient.

Not stolen. Not lost.
There is a thread on the FeralHeart Unleashed (idk why people have suddenly decided to name it Feral Unleashed instead) explaining with evidence that it is not stolen. Literal screenshots of the conversation between the two and KovuLKD agreeing to hand over the source code.
I think before we start making assumptions like this, we do our research. Rumours spread like wildfire and can seriously hurt people, keep that in mind.
You should take a look at that thread for yourself before jumping down someone's throat.
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: MagmaPool on August 13, 2020, 06:20:37 am
I've seen the screen shots. They don't look convincing. I'm sure you're well award that it would be extremely easy to make a new email and talk with yourself. Again, it all just seems a little too convenient. After all these years, all of a sudden, just for this one fella, he is contactable. And only that dude had been able to contact him. I'm pretty sure that he isn't the real LKD. I'm 100% sure he would be able to prove who he is, and not by just handing over source code that could very easily be obtained through other means. Be it through 3rd hand, if I'm aware Redeye or close to had a copy, or ripped, or even stolen himself considering the guy worked with the code.
You should not assume I haven't seen the thread myself before jumping down my throat.
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: G4RG0YLE on August 13, 2020, 11:00:41 am
If you cannot look at the evidence as evidence, then I can only apologise. There's no other way to convince you?
Either it be stubbornness to see the truth, or just generally not seeing the evidence for what it is.
KovuLKD has always been contactable but only to a select few, I think the question is - did he avoid Raz and if so, why?
Let's not forget that KovuLKD is the only one who has the source code to Feral Tales, which has now been given to xSpirit.
I'm not sure where RedEye comes in, as he has little to nothing to do with FHU.

Maybe next time it would be beneficial to clarify that you've seen the thread, so assumptions cannot be made.
I was not jumping down your throat - however, if you cannot take the evidence and believe it, then you do you... there's nothing anyone can do to convince you of otherwise.
Opinions > Facts I guess?


On another note-
Yes, Feral Heart is dying and has been doing so for a long, long time.
The game was dying before the update of map changes and whatnot came out, as people were getting fed up of not receiving an update.
Now the game is dying because the update itself has demolished the place(s) where memories were being made on a daily. Rather than just bringing back the maps, it was decided that they were going to be removed completely and renewed with maps that have no relation, other than perhaps Bonfire Islands and Ficho Tunnels.
Just to kill the fire further, the drama(s) that occurred over the years have left people disappointed, hurt and quite frankly, unheard.
There have been a lot of instances where people have brought their concern to the table and little to nothing has been done, or they've not been updated as such to prove discussions have been had.
Now with FHU on the release and the temporary server of FNxFH, people are migrating to where it all began.
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: MagmaPool on August 14, 2020, 12:21:34 am
You just told me not to assume, when you just assumed...

"I think before we start making assumptions like this, we do our research."

"Maybe next time it would be beneficial to clarify that you've seen the thread, so assumptions cannot be made."

So you made assumptions right after you said not to make assumptions... Do as I say, not as I do, no? You've invalidated your entire argument on this subject. I think we should end this here. This forum has seen enough drama from you hypocritical people.
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: teddybr on August 14, 2020, 07:09:56 am
this must be why the game is dying xD
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: G4RG0YLE on August 14, 2020, 12:28:22 pm
Quote from: teddybr on August 14, 2020, 07:09:56 am
this must be why the game is dying xD

Yes, absolutely.
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: feralfart on August 14, 2020, 05:27:39 pm
It's funny that your post was approved if FH staff are so keen on stopping the spread of misinformation. Says a lot.

Also: https://impressivetitle.proboards.com/thread/31566/hello-again.
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: Bloo. on August 15, 2020, 02:52:54 am
Quote from: feralfart on August 14, 2020, 05:27:39 pm
It's funny that your post was approved if FH staff are so keen on stopping the spread of misinformation. Says a lot.

Also: https://impressivetitle.proboards.com/thread/31566/hello-again.

Would you prefer us to not approve posts we personally don't like? Wouldn't that be leaning towards corruption? We disapprove posts that break forum rules, that is all.
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: feralfart on August 15, 2020, 03:14:43 am
Quote from: Bloo. on August 15, 2020, 02:52:54 am
Quote from: feralfart on August 14, 2020, 05:27:39 pm
It's funny that your post was approved if FH staff are so keen on stopping the spread of misinformation. Says a lot.

Also: https://impressivetitle.proboards.com/thread/31566/hello-again.

Would you prefer us to not approve posts we personally don't like? Wouldn't that be leaning towards corruption? We disapprove posts that break forum rules, that is all.

I don't know, just referencing the fact that several of the FH staff agreed to the banning of several people in order to stop "misinformation" and ~bad vibes~. At least stay consistent to both sides. But go off I guess
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: Ame88 on August 15, 2020, 03:39:09 am
Please keep to this thread's main topic, otherwise this thread will be locked/removed due to the discussion being thrown off topic.
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: teddybr on August 15, 2020, 04:00:24 am
well i may be only here for a week so I wouldn't really know why the game is dying. But one factor that seems to be pretty obvious is the two parties in the community that is constantly head butting each other. Personally when I join a game it's nice to see people welcoming you or just having fun within the forums etc, though there are some arguments in other games, yes, it might just be me, but I never seen a community that is so devoted to their own belief in their own story.

What I mean by that is; accusing each other such as 'jumping at each other throats', quotes such as these tend to start arguments especially if the other feel like they are wrongly accused. That usually turns me off from the community especially since if the forums are like that and I have no doubt that some other newbies tend to do so, there is also a definite lack of players online in game- and if they are they are either are AFK or private roleplaying with others which makes public roleplay or communication difficult- and thus- makes newbies feel more awkward and difficult to join into this community.

Atleast, that is my current verdict after a week roaming the forums and in game.

Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: Ame88 on August 15, 2020, 04:46:33 am
Very well put, Teddy. As of recent times, drama has really taken it's toll on this forum, and I'm sure everyone who joins and sees it just wants to turn around and walk away. Some members who have been here for a long time have taken their leave over the constant drama and headbutting that they had seen, as well as for other reasons (be it personal or not), and I don't blame them whatsoever.

In this game's current state I guess you could see that it is dying, however there still always is hope if everyone works together to try to bring this place to a better light. Yeah sure it may not work in the end, but everyone may succeed in bringing it back as well. There's always that chance.
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: LadySigyn on August 15, 2020, 05:32:27 am
Indeed it is a shame that new users have to come across the negativity from the past and the absence of players as a first impression, but that doesn't mean things can't change. I'll miss the users who've departed due to it all, but as Ame said, there's always that chance that things will work out.

"Hope is being able to see that there is light despite all of the darkness." - Desmond Tutu.
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: snappyhyena on August 15, 2020, 06:14:05 am
From my own experience - i've tried multiple times to connect with the community here and genuinely get involved, though it always ends up failing whereas i'd end up not thinking about this game for another few months afterward. as a person who doesnt exactly feel like i've ever gotten out of my "newbie" stage, it felt somewhat like you had to have either veteran status or strong confidence to be able to have fun on the game, which i had neither of. other than that, considering feralheart is exclusively for hanging out or roleplaying, it gets boring *quick* especially if interaction is something that makes you nervous. then there's the ongoing mentions of drama, of course, which makes playing feel like an off experience. i found out about feralheart a long time ago, tried to join in 2016, and finally joined in 2017 and it still feels like you have to "qualify" in some way to fit in with everybody.

my point is though, that yeah, some people do most likely feel a bit driven away by the whole idea of it. I just feel like this game needs a push in the right direction because well, to be truthful, when a game hits rock bottom activity-wise it usually seems to be the end of it. if any popular users took interest in this game and decided to do something like speak about their characters more often, make videos, and overall spread the experience then more people would feel keen to say something along the lines of "oh hey, that game exists, i should play it!" and that might be the little click that saves this game's life. i, too, have noticed that the player count being below 60 is MUCH below average, as i used to come on and the lowest was about 90 players. i think that the solution is to bring the game up more outside of the site. bring it up to your friends, put something on youtube, obsess about it on tumblr, you get the gist. what i've been seeing a lot is more of "bring the (dwindling) community together" instead of "spread the word, expand the community" which seems to be a recipe for gradual failure. i've stopped seeing anything feralheart related out of the impressive title related community, and the only real reason ive had another look at this game is because i happened to be reminded of it on my own accord.

my point is; the community seems to be solely held together by people who dedicate themselves entirely to the game, and this game only. which is not a good thing if you want consistent activity. and i think that if more people who had mixed interests started to be more productive ingame and share it, people from outside of the community (who are involved with said person's other interests) would have the idea of coming IN to the community. it just seems to be a rare thing to me, and if activity should increase, i think that needs to be more common.
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: Jango_Fett on August 22, 2020, 08:24:01 am
yeah.
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: DylanCheetah on August 28, 2020, 04:53:38 am
A simple 3 step solution to this game's problems:
1. Put aside your differences
2. Ignore anyone who is trying to start a fight
3. Start playing more

Problem solved.
Title: Re: Is the game dying?
Post by: VortexAlive on August 28, 2020, 07:10:55 pm
Not if we can help it! Grab some friends and start having fun! :D