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Title: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Zarago on July 16, 2011, 06:58:00 pm
*~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*

This is not a complaint thread, but an enhancement thread for the new ability to howl and to roar, hopefully you will agree with these ideas just to make it that little bit better.

*~*~ Howl ~*~*

# Pitches; All howls sound the same currently, which is wierd when you hear your huge muscular canine cry out with a rather feminine howl. With the pitches idea, you'll be able to change how low or high you want your canine's howl to be. To do this, when you are making/editing a character, there will be a bar which you can scroll up and down (the higher the bar the higher the pitch, the lower the bar the lower the pitch), there will also be an option to test your howl to make sure that it is right for your character.

# Volume; You will be able to change how loud or quiet your canine's howl is by using a bar next to the pitch bar, the higher the bar the louder the volume, and the lower the bar the lower the volume. People will approve of being able to have their large canine have a loud and amazing howl that will travel farther distances than a quiet one. Like for the pitches, you'll be able to test the sound.

# Length; You will have the option to change the length of your howl in seconds, and then test it on your canine to see if it is to your liking. People will approve of this idea, since they may have a species that is known for it's long howls.

# Position; I have heard complaints about people wanting their howl to be more unique in the way they do it, so I think being able to change how high the head raises when the canine howls would be a good idea, along with how low the head falls when the howl begins. To do this, when you are in-game, without the head raising and lowering being automatic, you will have to put your head in the position you want to start the howl by having "howl options", which would be middle (facing forward), fairly low (slightly slanted down), low (almost pointing to the ground), really low (strait down to the ground) and under (head starting to point towards the stomach) and then set what you want the head to do when it has reached full howl, which would be middle (facing forward), fairly high (slightly slanted up), high (almost pointing to the sky), really high (strait up to the sky) and over (head starting to point towards the back). This would be an option when creating the character, but you can also change it in-game if you only want a little howl.

*~*~ Roar ~*~*

# Pitches; All roars sound the same currently, which is wierd when you hear your huge muscular feline cry out with a rather feminine roar. With the pitches idea, you'll be able to change how low or high you want your feline's roar to be. To do this, when you are making/editing a character, there will be a bar which you can scroll up and down (the higher the bar the higher the pitch, the lower the bar the lower the pitch), there will also be an option to test your roar to make sure that it is right for your character.

# Volume; You will be able to change how loud or quiet your feline's roar is by using a bar next to the pitch bar, the higher the bar the louder the volume, and the lower the bar the lower the volume. People will approve of being able to have their large feline have a loud and amazing roar that will travel farther distances than a quiet one. Like for the pitches, you'll be able to test the sound.

# Length; You will have the option to change the length of your roar in seconds, and then test it on your feline to see if it is to your liking. People will approve of this idea, since they may have a species that is known for it's long roars.

# Position; I have heard complaints about people wanting their howl to be more unique in the way they do it, so I think being able to change how high the head raises when the feline roars would be a good idea, along with how low the head falls when the roar begins. To do this, when you are in-game, without the head raising and lowering being automatic, you will have to put your head in the position you want to start the roar by having "roar options", which would be middle (facing forward), fairly low (slightly slanted down), low (almost pointing to the ground), really low (strait down to the ground) and under (head starting to point towards the stomach) and then set what you want the head to do when it has reached full roar, which would be middle (facing forward), fairly high (slightly slanted up), high (almost pointing to the sky), really high (strait up to the sky) and over (head starting to point towards the back). This would be an option when creating the character, but you can also change it in-game if you only want a little roar.


*~*~ Support ~*~*

# Aisu Ookami Shikon
# Anne
# GaaraRocks!
# Opaldragon
# Sukira
# Swifty
# Thunderlion123
# Zarago
# Zaroque
# casey
# Frankie
# Casey
# Silverwind
# Ericka
# Seth
# ~ShadowFang~
# Halo

I hope you approve of these ideas, and maybe they will be added someday!


*~*~ Zarago ~*~*
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Thunderlion123 on July 16, 2011, 07:59:36 pm
I approve of this idea. I'm pretty irritated with how exactly the same they all sound.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Zaroque on July 16, 2011, 08:06:29 pm
I do to, I remember thinking this when I first saw the Roar in action. My face was like: ^.-
I think the head moving for the roar is rather 'naff' in a sense and actually very original, I think the roar should have more posture and emphasize it more. I like these ideas, great job Zar! <3
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Zarago on July 16, 2011, 08:11:26 pm
Thank you both for the positive comments, I think I'll make a supporters list, I'll add you both.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Opaldragon on July 17, 2011, 01:24:18 am
I think that I will support this idea as well.  It would be cool if everyone had their own howl or roar instead of everyone sounding the same.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: aelitastar on July 17, 2011, 01:39:49 am
i removed FH from my computer two days ago and the new patch comes out with what i wanted >.> and i like those ideas btw
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Zarago on July 17, 2011, 06:16:14 pm
That's great that you both like the ideas, I'll put you both on the support list.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Thunderlion123 on July 17, 2011, 06:21:05 pm
Thanks, and you're welcome. x3

Free Bump too. xD
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Leo Pardus on July 18, 2011, 05:37:35 pm
I think the roar and howl sound fine as is and I am happy with them. People wanted them, and now they've been put in, people are complaining they're not good enough. To me that sounds kind of ungrateful. Kovu took the time to listen to your requests and implement them, but instead of "yay! Thanks Kov!" we've got "meh, too samey" and "too naff".

Don't get me wrong, I like Zarago's ideas but it will mean yet more tweaking and yet more alterations when other things like fighting actions, prey and other things people are wanting ought to take top priority in regards to the game. Maybe we should appreciate what we have.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Zarago on July 18, 2011, 07:24:41 pm
I think the roar and howl sound fine as is and I am happy with them. People wanted them, and now they've been put in, people are complaining they're not good enough. To me that sounds kind of ungrateful. Kovu took the time to listen to your requests and implement them, but instead of "yay! Thanks Kov!" we've got "meh, too samey" and "too naff".

Don't get me wrong, I like Zarago's ideas but it will mean yet more tweaking and yet more alterations when other things like fighting actions, prey and other things people are wanting ought to take top priority in regards to the game. Maybe we should appreciate what we have.

I'm not saying I dislike the howling or roaring, I think it's a great enhancement to the game, it was one of those things I said to myself when I first played it, I said "Wait a minute, why can't we howl and roar?". These ideas are just to make the new addition better, with all this, I doubt there would be any complaining.

I don't expect this to happen soon, but it would be great if it did.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: TheWolfAddict on July 18, 2011, 07:33:32 pm
About the volume, Tigg or Red said something about being able to turn off only howl/roar.... I forgot what was said.

Edit: 100th post! Yay! :D
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: GaaraRocks! on July 18, 2011, 08:17:05 pm
me and my sister zuko actually agree to this, we were talking about this ingame. I howled as my male werewolf Sai. His personality is evil and cruel, killing family members offspring. And sometimes even his own. He's not settling down and enjoys his freedom. However when i howled i was like -_- it doesnt suit his character, its actually more of the feminine side. I imagined Sai's howl and this isnt it.

However im not sure how this will be implemented into the game. Maybe if he uses Audicity then that might actually work with the whole slider thing. As it will change the tone of the sounds. But i totally agree with you guys i would love this idea in. However i prefer the pitches and volume better then the other too because these would be easier to add in compared to the other too.

for the position for the heads you can kind of already do that. If you have you head facing the ground and hit Howl (only tested with wolf) your head goes towards the middle and thats it. However if you look to the sky your head goes towards your back. So for the head position its kindof still in your control. Dont forget these are easier said then done. It could take kov ages to figure out how to implement these if he did want this added in. Not only that but the character creation screen would have to be edited and recoded to add more bars in. It would be alot of work.

To be honest it would have been better to give people 3 types of howls and 3 types of roars. 1 for different genders Male (Rough heavy howl) Female (Feminine Howl) and then offspring.
He can use the same animations that he already has but use the audicity to change the pitch of the sounds. And instead of changing the bars in the character creation screen to save him from doing too much coding. He could simply add them in the actions box. FHowl,MHowl,PupHowl. Same for the felines.
FRoar,MRoar,CubRoar. This is just my oppinion.  
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Aragami on July 18, 2011, 08:58:08 pm
Nya~ I made a thread about the howling xD but yea, the howling gets WAY too high and it can hurt people's ears. And it sounds like they are kind of dieing or something. ^^' Not trying to be mean/rude.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Zarago on July 19, 2011, 05:01:50 pm
me and my sister zuko actually agree to this, we were talking about this ingame. I howled as my male werewolf Sai. His personality is evil and cruel, killing family members offspring. And sometimes even his own. He's not settling down and enjoys his freedom. However when i howled i was like -_- it doesnt suit his character, its actually more of the feminine side. I imagined Sai's howl and this isnt it.

However im not sure how this will be implemented into the game. Maybe if he uses Audicity then that might actually work with the whole slider thing. As it will change the tone of the sounds. But i totally agree with you guys i would love this idea in. However i prefer the pitches and volume better then the other too because these would be easier to add in compared to the other too.

for the position for the heads you can kind of already do that. If you have you head facing the ground and hit Howl (only tested with wolf) your head goes towards the middle and thats it. However if you look to the sky your head goes towards your back. So for the head position its kindof still in your control. Dont forget these are easier said then done. It could take kov ages to figure out how to implement these if he did want this added in. Not only that but the character creation screen would have to be edited and recoded to add more bars in. It would be alot of work.

To be honest it would have been better to give people 3 types of howls and 3 types of roars. 1 for different genders Male (Rough heavy howl) Female (Feminine Howl) and then offspring.
He can use the same animations that he already has but use the audicity to change the pitch of the sounds. And instead of changing the bars in the character creation screen to save him from doing too much coding. He could simply add them in the actions box. FHowl,MHowl,PupHowl. Same for the felines.
FRoar,MRoar,CubRoar. This is just my oppinion.

I suppose the head movements are a bit too ambitious. Anyway, I'm glad you and your sister like my idea, but I don't agree with just versions of the sounds, I think you should be able to make the pitch and volume exactly the way you want it with the sliders.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Aragami on July 20, 2011, 04:15:27 am
me and my sister zuko actually agree to this, we were talking about this ingame. I howled as my male werewolf Sai. His personality is evil and cruel, killing family members offspring. And sometimes even his own. He's not settling down and enjoys his freedom. However when i howled i was like -_- it doesnt suit his character, its actually more of the feminine side. I imagined Sai's howl and this isnt it.

However im not sure how this will be implemented into the game. Maybe if he uses Audicity then that might actually work with the whole slider thing. As it will change the tone of the sounds. But i totally agree with you guys i would love this idea in. However i prefer the pitches and volume better then the other too because these would be easier to add in compared to the other too.

for the position for the heads you can kind of already do that. If you have you head facing the ground and hit Howl (only tested with wolf) your head goes towards the middle and thats it. However if you look to the sky your head goes towards your back. So for the head position its kindof still in your control. Dont forget these are easier said then done. It could take kov ages to figure out how to implement these if he did want this added in. Not only that but the character creation screen would have to be edited and recoded to add more bars in. It would be alot of work.

To be honest it would have been better to give people 3 types of howls and 3 types of roars. 1 for different genders Male (Rough heavy howl) Female (Feminine Howl) and then offspring.
He can use the same animations that he already has but use the audicity to change the pitch of the sounds. And instead of changing the bars in the character creation screen to save him from doing too much coding. He could simply add them in the actions box. FHowl,MHowl,PupHowl. Same for the felines.
FRoar,MRoar,CubRoar. This is just my oppinion.

I suppose the head movements are a bit too ambitious. Anyway, I'm glad you and your sister like my idea, but I don't agree with just versions of the sounds, I think you should be able to make the pitch and volume exactly the way you want it with the sliders.

Have it where you can TEST the howl/roar as well? :3 Like you can have 'Test Howl' for canine and 'Test Roar' for felines

You can also be able to change the roar/howl by let's say you make a cat, you can choose cat or big cat meow/roar, the canines idk..
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: aelitastar on July 20, 2011, 04:26:32 am
GAH my mom needs to reactivate her WoW account XD i know off topic

ontopic: ive played a game that had it to where you could adjust the howl or roar, forgot the name of it though >.>
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: ashes13 on July 20, 2011, 05:31:13 am
I support this idea completely!!! I love the howl and roar option and these ideas would make it even better!
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Aragami on July 20, 2011, 05:32:53 am
GAH my mom needs to reactivate her WoW account XD i know off topic

ontopic: ive played a game that had it to where you could adjust the howl or roar, forgot the name of it though >.>

:o Cool! I might have to try and find it sometime XD

Anyways, we really need a new howl anyway, this one is WAY too static and high, it actually made my friend jump I bet when she had her speakers up xD
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: aelitastar on July 20, 2011, 06:31:42 am
XD
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Zarago on July 21, 2011, 05:59:12 pm
I'm very pleased to hear how many people agree with my idea.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: iAisu on July 21, 2011, 08:44:27 pm
I agree with this idea. At the moment the roar is a lot more quiet than the howl. You should be able to have the option to make the howl/roar volume louder. But of course roar will always be louder than the howl. As for stance I agree as well. Different poses should be added.
Plus the sounds of the howl/roar don't compare to the real thing, try and make it more realistic sounding. May be a challenge to obtain a clear realistic sound, but definitely worth adding this in.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Zarago on July 23, 2011, 11:57:34 am
I agree with this idea. At the moment the roar is a lot more quiet than the howl. You should be able to have the option to make the howl/roar volume louder. But of course roar will always be louder than the howl. As for stance I agree as well. Different poses should be added.
Plus the sounds of the howl/roar don't compare to the real thing, try and make it more realistic sounding. May be a challenge to obtain a clear realistic sound, but definitely worth adding this in.

I'll add you to the supporters list.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: 12dollars on July 23, 2011, 01:05:13 pm
I completely agree with this, and it would be a nice feature however a slight problem is that when you do change the pitch for the howl/roar it sounds very, very bad. Meaning Kov would probably have to find a new howl/roar sound for different pitches.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Zarago on July 23, 2011, 05:43:55 pm
I completely agree with this, and it would be a nice feature however a slight problem is that when you do change the pitch for the howl/roar it sounds very, very bad. Meaning Kov would probably have to find a new howl/roar sound for different pitches.

We could always have different options, but we'd need to have a lot of different pitches, otherwise it wouldn't be much of an improvement.

I think it could still work normally, but it depends on how you program it.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: cj2001 on January 12, 2012, 03:54:23 am
i love the idea! it kinda sucks when you hear a giant chorus of the smae howl from everyone else >_>
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: rocky on January 16, 2012, 01:02:02 am
I agree with tis post but for my lion I found a very deep powerful roar very similar to mufasa, it was a download on the fourms where I replaced it with the original roar file.However, I really like this idea of changing the pitch of the roar
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: catwarrior on January 16, 2012, 04:03:18 pm
i love the idea! it kinda sucks when you hear a giant chorus of the smae howl from everyone else >_>
You took the words out of my mouth! Yea, I have a wolf pup with this weird howl that sounds like a wolf that's.....er..... I can't describe it.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: BigCatsRock! on January 25, 2012, 07:48:59 pm
I approve of this and think it is a great idea and I also want to help give you support :)
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Zarago on January 26, 2012, 12:56:19 pm
Thank you for your support, and I've added ye' to the supporters list.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Kitty Lue on January 26, 2012, 05:56:15 pm
This would be AWESOME! especially since I made a feline character that was supposed to be a kitten, and I think the roar for a kitten should sound a bit higher pitched, and maybe even a different sound for kittens and pups then the adult ones. I would really like this, especially if I were able to get online feralheart, but unfortunately, FH crashes after a little while of loading when I select a character.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Nanaki on January 27, 2012, 07:07:53 pm
I am in support of different pitches of howls/roars, but the different head postitions sounds like it would be a pain in the butt to code. Not that I'd know, but it just soundsl ike it.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Zarago on January 27, 2012, 08:42:44 pm
Thank you for your input. I have added you to the supporters list.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: ShadowFang01 on January 28, 2012, 11:28:13 pm
 I support this idea, it will nice to be able to change the lenght and pitch of your howl/roar.  :D
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Zarago on January 29, 2012, 05:15:52 pm
Agreed. Thank you for your support.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Halopromise on February 04, 2012, 12:04:47 pm
Awesome idea indeed. It is annoying, though recently I changed the howl and roar sound to something different. Even if it's just toggling between even a few species. However, this idea is a lot fancier.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: XeekyXeek on June 22, 2012, 07:24:13 pm
Finally someone who has the same idea as me!

I can flat-out say that I TOTALLY agree with this idea! <33
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Ebonightmare on June 26, 2012, 11:30:16 pm
    Your idea is pure genious! The howls and roars need to sound different, people would then actually sometimes, in a wolf rp for example, have a group howl that wouldnt be the repeating of the same howl over and over again. Same for the lions, I imagine teh leader to have a really strong roar and be like simba at the end of the first Lion King movie...xD  Also, for those that rp as dragons they'd have a really strong howl or roar, instead of sounding like a normal animal.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: SteampunkWolfdog on September 22, 2012, 11:25:04 pm
I like the idea of being able to change the howl/roar's pitch and volume, but I think that changing the position of the head when howling or roaring might be a bit much from the programming side. Though, it would be nice to be able to howl or roar when sitting or lying down rather than being stood up.
Good thinking.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: emmiere on September 30, 2012, 05:49:09 pm
I love the idea of this. It's a little weird having a pup howl like a full-grown wolf.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: Tessel. on September 30, 2012, 08:55:08 pm
Everything you said needs to be added. I love the idea of different pitches, cause to me they all sound feminine.
Title: Re: *~*~ Howl and Roar ~*~*
Post by: dead-wolf177 on September 30, 2012, 09:01:59 pm
I like this idea. I think it makes the game a tad more realistic. ;)