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Game & Forum Discussion => Game Discussion => Topic started by: Zarago on December 28, 2011, 01:50:05 pm

Title: Don't they even listen?
Post by: Zarago on December 28, 2011, 01:50:05 pm
Don't they even listen?

Recently (since the update), there has been an explosion of Polish people in the new maps (particularly Ascension Island). No matter how hard I try, they will not stop, and I know they understand English, for whenever a moderator comes in and tells them to stop, they all put a sock in it.

Today, it got out of hand, and there was no moderator online to lend a hand. This really needs to be stopped. The main offenders are Polish, and I think there should be something for them so they do not ignore the rules. If not, we need more moderators.

Please, this needs to be fixed. I am going insane here.

Zarago
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: Zaroque on December 28, 2011, 02:20:43 pm
Hmm, you talked about this to me last night Zar, I have spotted a gang hanging around there, doing things they shouldn't.

I believe one of he main reasons is that the lack of moderators being online at this time of day, GMT morning.
I'll definitely keep an eye out for those peeps, its also a good reminder to report people via screenshot then whispering an online Moderator or PMing an Admin or Mod on the forums.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: CloudFish on December 28, 2011, 02:53:58 pm
Zarago is right, this group of players is using their first speaking language as an advantage in being able to do what is they are doing. But too, you can use screenshots to get a moderator's opinion.

However, I think the explosion of them being in one certain map is no different than when they used to collect in the Cape or Ficho. Considering they are a minority on the game, I think it's good that they can be grouped together, but their actions are less to be desired.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: kittenzrcute on December 28, 2011, 02:59:00 pm
Yea. I try to ask them politely to leave, cause one of them is my friend, but they ignore me and my friend did too. She is still my friend. Anyway, after that the did the Buttswing on my friend, THEN ME! :< I have never used that character ever since then.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: wolfgirl56 on December 28, 2011, 04:03:45 pm
I strongly agree with Zarago. Things are getting out of hand with these peeps. And they're making up groups and gangs to do bad things around FH?
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: shzgdfg on December 28, 2011, 04:16:06 pm
Some people just dont respect FH.They are doing it to get attention,Its their deal.Its a one-way trip to being banned is wat i say.I totaly agree with Zarago also.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: Zarago on December 28, 2011, 04:55:15 pm
I'm glad that some have had the same experience as me. Earlier in the week, I was out there trying to ask them to keep their language to local, group, whisper or party, but all they did was carry on. Like what happened to Girfan, they started to butt-swing in my face, and they also started talking behind my back, swearing...

Pretty pathetic, really.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: shzgdfg on December 28, 2011, 10:20:43 pm
Zarago,its their deal.Really i never do anything to bad people and yet, they do it to me when they dont know who the heck i am?! Its their deal they just want attention.I say ignore them thats all,but if they are breakign the rules take a pic and send it to a mod.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: kittenzrcute on December 29, 2011, 03:37:04 am
Right SoulSurfer, I so agree. They disrespect other people, and when they do that, they disrespect themselves.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: Zaroque on December 29, 2011, 12:24:52 pm
Hmm, you talked about this to me last night Zar, I have spotted a gang hanging around there, doing things they shouldn't.

I believe one of he main reasons is that the lack of moderators being online at this time of day, GMT morning.
I'll definitely keep an eye out for those peeps, its also a good reminder to report people via screenshot then whispering an online Moderator or PMing an Admin or Mod on the forums.

As I said, reporting it to a moderator is important.
Me and Zarago have both spotted they're sort of 'leader' for the disrespecting members in Ascension island, whenever that user is on, the members go loco...
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: Zarago on December 29, 2011, 01:49:34 pm
Girfan speaks the truth. They do disrespect themselves when they do so to others. As I said before, pretty pathetic. When people telling them to stop and actually listen get's on their nerves, they start claiming that we're all racist.

Pretty obvious that they haven't paid any attention to the rules.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: shzgdfg on December 29, 2011, 05:04:59 pm
It is pathetic.They doing it for wat?Wat is it gonna accomplish?A ban!They just wanna tick people.Like i saw in a video,their purpose in life is pest people off,or atleast they think.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: EvilSock on December 29, 2011, 05:26:40 pm
If Polish people annoy you by speaking in General, put them on IGNORE. Nothing you can do about it, it's up the the mods to re-enforce the rules, not you, whether they are there or not. As others said, screen-shotting and whisking it off to a moderator is the only way. And really, I doubt they can understand you. If you really want them to stop, go to Google translate and send them a whisper in their own language asking politely for them to withdraw.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: CloudFish on December 29, 2011, 06:15:23 pm
Sock, sometimes I feel like your stitches have already unraveled. You can't cease foolish requests.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: EvilSock on December 29, 2011, 06:26:42 pm
You're going off-topic, Fish. I'll beat you with a hook for that.
... Can't cease foolish requests > What? p p
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: CloudFish on December 29, 2011, 06:54:50 pm
I am not. I'm staying quite on topic. You can't cease foolish requests:

No matter how much people complain over the situation of there being annoying and trolling players.
There is no solution. Because you and I both know, that unless the person bothered takes it upon themselves to report such behavior to the moderators and admins via screenshots, they are simply ranting.

And no matter how many times people ask for more moderators to fulfill their security needs. The fact remains that Kov is in charge of appointing said people, and he has little to no concern with the amount.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: EvilSock on December 29, 2011, 07:01:08 pm
There is a solution, it's called blocking. I eccentrically enjoy pressing that shiny button. Noobs? Block. Buttswing-abusers? Block. Foreign people? Block. Kov created this button solely for the purpose that he did not want to add moderators in the first place, because he believed that the game did not need them. The game wouldn't even require them if everyone was mature enough to actually use that feature. And, Razmirz is the person responsible for recruiting for staff members.

(:
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: FoxfangPitbull on December 29, 2011, 07:10:55 pm
I agree with Sock. I tell them to politely stfu and if they don't I just go down the list and block, block block. Helps with lag a lot as well, since they just seem to spawn-plode everywhere!
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: CloudFish on December 29, 2011, 07:15:59 pm
I'm going to hit your block button.

But the fact of the matter is people aren't intelligent enough to hit the block button. They want to stir up trouble by battling off the evil noobs or complaining to a moderator. Nor are they intelligent enough to simply ignore the evildoers.

So you're saying Razmirz recruits moderators without the say of Kingly Kov?

I guess that would make sense... Now that I think about it. Seeing as Kov has no concern for their existence at all and didn't want them? But that goes against what I know. Or at least what I think I know. Isn't Simba the one who made FH+ and had this privilege without being part of the forum team? I forgot the point I was arguing so I'll stop trying to sort it out.

I'm too lazy to figure out how all this crap is ran. Quit puttin' a man down, Sock.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: kittenzrcute on December 29, 2011, 07:38:15 pm
Well, to stay up on topic, like Sock said, just block. Well, the foreign people part was a little rude, but still you can block them.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: Zarago on December 29, 2011, 09:13:22 pm
To be honest, I don't want to have to be reduced to blocking. I can't just sit there and ignore when a whole bunch of pathetic n00bs are breaking the rules. If it wasn't against them, I may block, because they wouldn't be doing anything wrong, but they are, and that's what's ticking me.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: FoxfangPitbull on December 29, 2011, 10:27:14 pm
To be honest, I don't want to have to be reduced to blocking. I can't just sit there and ignore when a whole bunch of pathetic n00bs are breaking the rules. If it wasn't against them, I may block, because they wouldn't be doing anything wrong, but they are, and that's what's ticking me.
Turn off general for a while then and move somewhere else, darling?
I dunno, I'm just like: fine, I'll shut you up one way or another. XD
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: Zarago on December 29, 2011, 10:55:23 pm
Nu, that still doesn't solve the problem. I just ask them to shut up, and if they don't, get a moderator in to make them put a sock in eet.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: shzgdfg on December 30, 2011, 02:41:15 am
Really to me,its not ok to sit back and watch people break the rules yet do nothing,its just not ok. If they are speaking a language you know then try to tell them its against the rules.Some people pretend they dont know english and play dumb.Now that annoys me
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: Redlinelies on December 30, 2011, 03:24:37 am
I will say in this thread again that I have said in many many other threads when it comes to quite a few things.

The language rule is quite a hard one to enforce, especially since not everyone understands right away, plain out banning users for speaking another language can be seen as wrong as well so it's nothing that's wanted. But I do agree that you are not the only one having issues with these users and I'm very aware of what they are capable of and the lack of respect that is shown..

We are aware of that more mods are wanted and is being looked into, but keep in mind that this is a tricky rule to both those that follow and those who enforce if the community doesn't try to reach results wanted together.

I've not seen any reports about this though, and I'm not sure how many of the mods that has either but the most annoying thing is users that clearly speaks and understands English but still ignores everyone's warnings. If there's the same users that keep coming up or are rude about it, please report it to us, it's the least you can do.

And yet again about Feralheart+, it was never the official version, the staff that works here with helping the community and keeping it in order were never asked about this version or their thoughts, and were pretty much forcefed with it because of the lack of communication and no one willing to just take a few mins considering the consequences of another version and what it gives.

Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: Zarago on December 30, 2011, 10:50:40 am
Thank you for that Red. In fact, I do have a screenshot of a group of people who were ignoring warnings and showing high disrespect to those who were merely trying to help. I'll probably send that over soon.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: FoxfangPitbull on December 30, 2011, 03:30:31 pm
I agree with Red, since I can see how badly things are clashing in FH and FH+. A lot of the new modifications and patches , I believe, were to "shut us up." Hasn't really worked though, because without thinking through the homepoints, there are insane clashes.

But the language rule is almost impossible to enforce, it's a very touchy one as well.
That rule runs on respect, and there is little to none of that floating around FH at the moment. Zar, I think you're just going to have to sit this one out.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: shzgdfg on December 30, 2011, 03:44:54 pm
Agrees with red.The language rule is hard to enforce,cuz if they REALLY dont speak english then its gonna be hard for them,but if they do and are playing dumb then we need to fix it.The reason people are doing that in general is cuz well they either REALLY cant speak english or they CAN speak english and are doing this to pest people off.Its their deal,and its a one-way-trip to being banned if you do it a few times and really do speak english.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: Zarago on December 30, 2011, 06:42:34 pm
I agree with Red, since I can see how badly things are clashing in FH and FH+. A lot of the new modifications and patches , I believe, were to "shut us up." Hasn't really worked though, because without thinking through the homepoints, there are insane clashes.

But the language rule is almost impossible to enforce, it's a very touchy one as well.
That rule runs on respect, and there is little to none of that floating around FH at the moment. Zar, I think you're just going to have to sit this one out.

Always satisfactory when you do get them to listen and be quiet. Besides, it doesn't hurt to tell them. Perhaps one day they'll learn. And, you're right about the respectful aspect of FeralHeart (or lack of it) at the moment. Sucks, much?
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: FoxfangPitbull on December 30, 2011, 08:09:49 pm
To be honest with you Zar, I'm actually not suprised. Out of the whole staff team, I can honestly say, I only have the maximum amount of respect for Red. They're the only one who's ever offered to give a true hand. And that's what is lacking, I don't think most of the FH see active staff members. I think they see mods who sit around on their butts and do nothing (whether this is true or not, is up to debate).

I think if everyone saw a change in the Staffs attitude, maybe if they had foreign language liaisons within the team to communicate with those of another language when needed instead of having random people baw'ing at them, maybe then, the respect would go up. Improve the comminity and the game will improve by itself.
You can improve to game, add to it all you want, but without a solid community, it's all to easy for everything to go to s***e
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: Zarago on December 30, 2011, 09:42:49 pm
That's very true. The community is not very stable (naturally, FeralHeart + has separated some of the community, but that's besides the point). I do not see staff online often. The most active of them all appears to be Red and Rimfrost. The others I barely see, and that includes Kovu, who I wish would come on more often and listen to everyone more than he currently does (saying that, I have seen him on more often, but that's not a surprise, considering the large update to the game). Sure, I haven't got them all on my friend's list, and yes, I do see more on the forum than the game. But as you rightly said, the majority of FeralHeart do not see active staff members.

Let's hope that when we get some new staff (hopefully soon), things will improve and some of these sorts of problems will mellow.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: shzgdfg on December 30, 2011, 09:57:35 pm
I think the staff needs to get on more so not many people would be breaking the rules.It just annoys me when they do,but people dont tell a mod they start to agrue rather tehn block the person or tell a mod.Like on general on night people were fighting about being literate or non-literate.IS no fighting in general a rule?I just have a bad memory =P. Anywho i agree with Zar,we should have some more staff members as soon as we can.We all understand that the staff have lives,job,ETC but, the FH comunity needs the staff!Or FH might lose people due to all the rule-breaking,cursing,and other reasons.I know a few people that have left due to some of those things.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: Redlinelies on December 30, 2011, 10:07:18 pm
Tis great and all that you wish for a more active, different? Staff.

But that sorta gets beside the point of your thread in the first place as well. I really dislike how everyone actually believes that the staff is the main problem when it comes to these things.

Especially since members cannot simply know the mods in the game since they are in fact hidden. Feels like this dead subject is going to get placed on the table again, claiming to know how active the mods or staff are in the game(mods in particular) is not exactly the most valid thing to do since you cannot know them, nor does mods display themselves, they are in fact still hidden.

Language rule, not easy to enforce no matter how it's placed, mentioned this earlier. And this is not a progress that we can stick glue over to kill it.

Please understand this now.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: shzgdfg on December 30, 2011, 10:19:59 pm
Red,I know the staff isnt the problem,and yes some know they are hidden.Yet some don't and they think they can go around breaking the rules.The problem is sorta the players.If they wanna break the rules and do bad things then its their fault.Im sure that the staff is doing all they can so get FH to a solid comunity.
Title: Re: Don't they even listen?
Post by: Redlinelies on December 30, 2011, 10:23:31 pm
I'm just here to defend my hind and others on the staff.

Feels like some words too much for others knowing. I've spotted quite a few times where users talk about the issue with active staff and the mods actions in the game. The staffing here is done within closed conversations for reasons, and the moderating is done under radar for reasons as well.

The whole "Get more staff" works as a pointer, but not as peoples guidance to get answers to issues that might occur.