Feral Heart

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Title: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: A.P.S. on March 10, 2017, 08:37:04 am
I just wanted to host a poll about the registration. I think many players agree with me when I say Feral-Heart need more players. It's sad seeing such an amazing game with so little players. Let's make Feral-Heart big, popular and something we can actually start playing when we want, let more users join. We can build a world without source code, we can make Feral-Heart something amazing, but we need more people to do it.

Let's make Feral-Heart something we could only dream. Lions, wolves, even birds, roaming around maps that are stunning. Groups for everyone and anyone, you just walk into a map with lots of advertising, click a few clips and find yourself the perfect group. Members don't leave characters and RPs to die, they are long termed, thousands of members, and no one simply passes a group by and ignores them to leave it empty.

But we need more players to have more roaming lions, wolves and birds. We need more people to make groups anyone could join. We need more members to join some of the greatest RPs you could imagine. We need more users joining Feral-Heart.

It shouldn't be that your lucky to finally catch registration open. You shouldn't have to wait days, weeks, and sometimes months just to get an account.

I'm sorry for the long post, but I just needed to get that out. Thank you for reading.
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: Melon on March 10, 2017, 08:46:13 am
I don't think 24/7 would be good. Since, it would overwhelm the server. Yes, it WOULD bring in tons of players, but I don't think 24/7 would be good. However, lets say they opened EVERY day on a certain hour? It would be nice.
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: A.P.S. on March 10, 2017, 08:49:26 am
I don't think 24/7 would be good. Since, it would overwhelm the server. Yes, it WOULD bring in tons of players, but I don't think 24/7 would be good. However, lets say they opened EVERY day on a certain hour? It would be nice.

I agree with you. I say staff should have it open for a certain amount of time maybe not everyday but several times a week. It should also be a post the forums when it will be open and anyone can view it, members and guests.
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: Amara on March 10, 2017, 08:53:34 am
Wintersong is exactly right about why the registration isn't open 24/7. When FeralHeart was first released, it was open all the time but there were just so many players flooding in all the time, the servers were constantly going down.

However, I think registration should be kept exactly where it is. If we have registration open at a certain time of day, on the same day every week, people will notice and just flood in all at once, causing server crashes yet again.

Currently the registration is open 2 hours a day every day, at a completely random time. So there are moments where it is open for nightowls to register. So in the end it all works out. :)
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: Melon on March 10, 2017, 08:56:19 am
Wintersong is exactly right about why the registration isn't open 24/7. When FeralHeart was first released, it was open all the time but there were just so many players flooding in all the time, the servers were constantly going down.

However, I think registration should be kept exactly where it is. If we have registration open at a certain time of day, on the same day every week, people will notice and just flood in all at once, causing server crashes yet again.

Currently the registration is open 2 hours a day every day, at a completely random time. So there are moments where it is open for nightowls to register. So in the end it all works out. :)

Amara is right also, and I don't really mind whenever registration opens. However, I'd like it to open every now and then. :D
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: Amara on March 10, 2017, 09:04:55 am
Wintersong is exactly right about why the registration isn't open 24/7. When FeralHeart was first released, it was open all the time but there were just so many players flooding in all the time, the servers were constantly going down.

However, I think registration should be kept exactly where it is. If we have registration open at a certain time of day, on the same day every week, people will notice and just flood in all at once, causing server crashes yet again.

Currently the registration is open 2 hours a day every day, at a completely random time. So there are moments where it is open for nightowls to register. So in the end it all works out. :)

Amara is right also, and I don't really mind whenever registration opens. However, I'd like it to open every now and then. :D

It already IS open now and again. 2 hours a day every day is rather good I think.
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: Melon on March 10, 2017, 09:16:24 am
Wintersong is exactly right about why the registration isn't open 24/7. When FeralHeart was first released, it was open all the time but there were just so many players flooding in all the time, the servers were constantly going down.

However, I think registration should be kept exactly where it is. If we have registration open at a certain time of day, on the same day every week, people will notice and just flood in all at once, causing server crashes yet again.

Currently the registration is open 2 hours a day every day, at a completely random time. So there are moments where it is open for nightowls to register. So in the end it all works out. :)

Amara is right also, and I don't really mind whenever registration opens. However, I'd like it to open every now and then. :D

It already IS open now and again. 2 hours a day every day is rather good I think.

Yep.

:o
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: Morgra on March 10, 2017, 09:17:27 am
Registration opens once every 12 hours and each day, the times are random. This is for reasons stated above by Amara and Wintersong. Keeping it the way it currently is, is the best option for server load and keeping the game running smoother for everyone. Thank you for the input, however ^^

I advise anyone wanting an account to remain patient ^^ You will get one soon enough. Try to check this site once every hour for a day if you can!
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: A.P.S. on March 10, 2017, 10:11:39 am
The thing is, there are a lot of people who can't make accounts any time. I barely ever see it open. Also, why not just put a player limit on the maps/server if overloading is such a big issue? Or maybe upgrade the server? I just almost never see it open, and I feel like I would of been on FH much sooner if registration seemed open as long as you say it is. I also suggest if we're going to have 12 hours open, it's more evened out. Like 6-8 AM, 10 AM to 12 PM, 2-4 PM, 6-8 PM, 10-12 AM, 2-4 AM. It give plenty of times in the day and give a 2 hour break.
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: Amara on March 10, 2017, 10:20:54 am
The thing is, there are a lot of people who can't make accounts any time. I barely ever see it open. Also, why not just put a player limit on the maps/server if overloading is such a big issue? Or maybe upgrade the server? I just almost never see it open, and I feel like I would of been on FH much sooner if registration seemed open as long as you say it is. I also suggest if we're going to have 12 hours open, it's more evened out. Like 6-8 AM, 10 AM to 12 PM, 2-4 PM, 6-8 PM, 10-12 AM, 2-4 AM. It give plenty of times in the day and give a 2 hour break.

I don't think they can just upgrade the server like that. And there ARE player limits on maps/servers. They just don't want to hit those numbers and crash everything because maybe getting a bigger/better server would be too much.

And honestly, that just gives it way too much time to be open. The registration does indeed open, you just gotta catch it, like everyone has been doing for the past few years.

And besides, have you seen the numbers of players recently? As of right now, as I type this, there are not as many people but it IS a school/work day or night. But through the weekdays, after school/work, I've seen up over 500 players, and on the weekends, close to 700. Which is pretty good if you ask me. cx
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: A.P.S. on March 10, 2017, 10:45:18 am
The thing is, there are a lot of people who can't make accounts any time. I barely ever see it open. Also, why not just put a player limit on the maps/server if overloading is such a big issue? Or maybe upgrade the server? I just almost never see it open, and I feel like I would of been on FH much sooner if registration seemed open as long as you say it is. I also suggest if we're going to have 12 hours open, it's more evened out. Like 6-8 AM, 10 AM to 12 PM, 2-4 PM, 6-8 PM, 10-12 AM, 2-4 AM. It give plenty of times in the day and give a 2 hour break.

I don't think they can just upgrade the server like that. And there ARE player limits on maps/servers. They just don't want to hit those numbers and crash everything because maybe getting a bigger/better server would be too much.

And honestly, that just gives it way too much time to be open. The registration does indeed open, you just gotta catch it, like everyone has been doing for the past few years.

And besides, have you seen the numbers of players recently? As of right now, as I type this, there are not as many people but it IS a school/work day or night. But through the weekdays, after school/work, I've seen up over 500 players, and on the weekends, close to 700. Which is pretty good if you ask me. cx

If there are limits on the map and when they are met, the server crashes because too many players joined, then lower the limits... Or are you saying the coding it so messed up, it crashes the server/map rather than just telling a player they can't connect? Or is crashing a form of saying the server is full, no coding by staff?

But really, for someone who is like me who is usually online during later hours, it's terrible. At least make registration open during the late night hours. I can assure you there are more than 15 nightowls in the world who are online, but they aren't on FH.

Also, about catching the server time... It took me I'm not sure how long, constantly checking to get an account. Probably a few weeks, so it's not as easy as it sounds. I had a friend who wanted to join FH but had to wait a couple of weeks just to finally find registration up. People ask other people to help them get an account, and that doesn't sound like something I'd like hearing people say about a game.

Or is the whole point of FH's registration to make players feel rewarded when they finally get to make an account? Like it something rare to be a member of FH?

Sorry, I just find the whole registration mystery time thing to be annoying. Maybe for one whole 24 hours, they could keep it up as a test and see if it crashes the server once in that 24 hours?
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: Astraea on March 10, 2017, 12:09:59 pm
Feralheart is a big game, there are loads of people who wish to play and if the servers were open 24/7 they would be flooded with new members which would in reality probably slow the server by a landslide.
A server limit would be a good add but as Amara has stated ; it takes a lot more work probably than we all think. I think registration should open on a set date, so people who want to join will have their chance and know when it opens!

<3 Great topic by the way, I'm sure a lot of people feel strongly about this.
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: Avani on March 10, 2017, 12:46:24 pm
Though I understand that a registration system like this
can be demotivating and frustrating to many, I think it
is very wise to have a limit like this. It slows down the
growth of the community, yes, but it is for the best.
This system has its pros and cons, but I appreciate
the work put into a better gaming experience. A slow
increase in members is both a good and a bad thing.
Though I registered before this system was made,
I can understand why many are bothered by this.
I admit that I feel bad for those who miss these
opportunities and spend ages just to catch
reglstration openings. Then again, a limit like
this gives a better server performance,
and prevents the server from crashing
as often as it did.
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: Bawfle on March 10, 2017, 12:58:09 pm
In my opinion, how registration functions now is perfectly fine as is.

These open registration times can vary greatly, as it can open at any point for anyone looking to Register an account. Thoughout the week for one person, it could open in the early morning, late morning, mid day, early afternoon, etc... There is always going to be a time of day throughout the week when a person will be able to catch the registration open. However, there's also a lot of people who try to rely on others, such as; friends, general users or even staff to keep an eye on registration or notify them when registration is open. It is not their responsibility to watch registration's activity for others, as they are the ones wanting the account.



The system was placed to prevent new and old users from creating so many accounts for themselves and taking up space on Raz's server(s). I know of several users who have 10+ accounts, and more than half of them are no longer touched, or barely so. The majority of people created new accounts purely because they did not like their username and wanted something new. Nevertheless, t is now possible for users to change their username through the user panel, so they can recycle their accounts instead of making new ones. Personally, I feel no one should have more than 4 accounts, but that's just how I feel. Even though this option of account 'recycling' is now available, the issue of account hoarding will always be around.

Users can now also delete their old accounts through the user panel as well, and it will delete the account instantly. Before, you had to do this through your profile on the forum, and leave your account untouched for around 2 weeks. Deleting old accounts is easy, sure, easily provides more space. However, even though this option has a much quicker response and is easier to do, there is still an issue. A lot of people forget their passwords, e-mails and even usernames to even do this. A little while ago, Raz cleared/deleted/removed all accounts that were inactive and untouched for over a year or so. Even though there is more space and everything is much cleaner, there are still a huge handful of accounts that haven't really reached that time/length period, so there are still a lot of people who have hoarded accounts.

Sure, these new changes are dandy, and it's very understood that a lot of users want registration to return to it's 24/7 routine, but people who are wanting to join will need to wait patiently for registration to open. I am not saying that registration will never return to it's old system in future either, but currently it is a comfortable and very stable solution to prevent the said things from happening, or happening less.
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: A.P.S. on March 10, 2017, 07:43:47 pm
I agree with pretty much everyone here. I don't want it open ALL the time, I would understand if that flooded the server, but I just think, even if it's for less than an hour, there should be a time it will be open and scheduled on the forums or the site's main page. And FH doesn't need to do this instantly, after the hacking which we are still recovering from, looking to update the actual game even more, etc, I think it would be best to wait a bit.
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: SpookyVin on March 14, 2017, 07:07:33 am
Another alternative would be to have it be open one day a week, but randomize the time on that day. It would give players a ballpark idea of when they can register, but not an exact time. So while they'd still have to catch it, they wouldn't be forced to play a guessing game and trying to get lucky. It took more than a year of active checking for me to finally catch it. That's a little ridiculous. Be it bad luck, bad timing, or some combination of the two, it's not good.

One also should keep in mind the fact that not everyone is going to be persistent. We could be losing LOTS of amazing, talented, wonderful people simply because they get discouraged that they can never figure out when registration is.

TL;DR - I vote for a single day with randomized open registry hours.
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: ForestHysteria on March 14, 2017, 12:46:15 pm
Timed registration isn't a shabby idea, it gives people a chance to register so they don't have to wait so long. However waiting for registration to open sometimes can go either ways. I heard some people can do so without much of a wait and I hear others say it takes about a year for them to get in. (Which sounds exaggerated) Timed registration can give possible players a chance to register and play the game.

However, this could alternately lead to the server being overloaded and possibly close again because it's at capacity. Which is one of the main reasons why have the registration system the way it is. The server use to get a lot of people and since everyone wanted to play people wouldn't would be logged out because the server limit reached it's capacity of users. And we only be at point B again.
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: Soul on March 14, 2017, 06:54:42 pm
I really like the way it is now and wish more games would have it like this. Don't think cranking the numbers up by opening the registration to a scheduled time will actually bring in more active players, if you had to pay for owning an account and if there would be game moderators 24/7 maybe... but not for free accounts. Those who REALLY want to play will find a way, and if it becomes a scheduled thing spammers and trolls will have it so easy to come in and use their accounts for abuse which is the last thing you want to invite in to a play where already some are pushing it by doing role play in the open that clearly isn't family friendly or fit for all ages.

When looking at the memberlist of all the new people that sign up daily there really are a LOT. A land with group adds and such does sound like a nice idea though so that people who want to can check ingame what all is available to join. I got invites on my very first day when I didn't even know what it was all about so turned it down then accepted a second one to find out what it was all about but found myself kicked out the next time I came on. There probably might be newbies who don't read the opening emails either and simply don't know how to get the game to work but there seem to be plenty of people joining on a daily basis as is...
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: Summeralla on March 14, 2017, 11:25:17 pm
Well, the staff is in control with the registration per-say...Feral-heart can't do much but accept what we have.

Not everyone may agree with the registration, but I am sure it has reasons why is here today. However, one thing i dislike about it is the time...is like a ninja. Just sneaks up and attack! But seriously, there's no actual time when it closes or opens. It would be nice if staff had access to it so guests can catch it on time, but otherwise i have no issue with the registration. If it keeps organizations through FH, then I'm ok with it.
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: WaterMelons4lif on March 17, 2017, 02:37:49 am
I had an issue since I couldnt catch it , but now that I have. I think its fine for security and reduce lag , If it keeps organizations then im fine with it. ^.^
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: Azurain on March 17, 2017, 04:20:14 am
I really like the idea with registration being open a certain time of the week. Maybe then people can actually catch it open instead of checking for days or even weeks at a time.
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: WolfQueen on April 03, 2017, 10:31:50 pm
If you're going to keep the registration, please open it on certain days a month like what Flight Rising does/did. Having it open on random times for an hour is pointless and troublesome for people who want an account to be honest.
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: Michen_S on April 04, 2017, 01:11:36 pm
I think it's fairly good as is now. The current system allows players from all time zones to have a chance at register. Though, some people can only come online for a short time severely decreasing their chance to get an account. Then it becomes a game of luck and it can take months before they can create their account.
I'd say maybe increase frequency of when you can register (like open registrations 3x a day at random) or increase the time frame wherein you can register (like 2x two hours at random). Much more than that is probably not necessary.
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: sanrio on April 04, 2017, 01:19:28 pm
As Michen stated above. I think the way Registration is fine the way it currently is.
Since they opened it in December FH has had a mass flood of players join the game. I've seen many new people in the game introduce myself and it's not different on the forums.
With a few tweaks here and there some problems could be fixed but for now it's absolutely fine from my point of view.
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: RayvenJustice on April 12, 2017, 01:35:32 am
Just throwing in a quick opinion, I know I'm a little late but being a new player and a night owl I support the idea of late night registrations
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: A.P.S. on April 12, 2017, 03:12:42 am
When should staff maybe try to change registration to fit the currently winning option, by the way? It's been a while but I'm pretty sure nothing has changed despite the leading option.

I get it if staff can't do anything, but maybe they could try (if they haven't already) and consider the winning option?
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: Chipz on April 13, 2017, 06:14:09 am
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Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: Scornhound on April 21, 2017, 11:01:14 pm
Definitely do not keep it as is. Make an announcement saying it will be open on a certain hour during a certain day. So then people will know when it will open up and will not waste precious hours of their time waiting for the registration to open. I personally am not too fond the fact that the community is not let known about the time the registration opens, but that is just my opinion. But no, if it were to be changed, make it a certain hour during a certain day. That may work out quite well.
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: Lucikrux on May 06, 2017, 10:23:14 pm
I think it's silly to bar people from joining the game. I'm sure any security threats have been long since passed now. I think it should be open all the time and closed with emergencies, but I also think it might be a good idea to open registration during a closed but set and publicly known period of time. It took me ages to register into this game because of this registration bar, almost six months because I had so much to do and every time I checked, registration was closed. I had almost given up until, to my surprise, registration was open. However, if whatever the cause of this was and is still an issue, then it should remain as it is now. It's still possible to register, it's just very, very hard. I can see the benefit and loss from all sides, really. And besides, if someone really bad was trying to get into the game, they could just get in like everyone else. Changing up registration doesn't do much against such relentless people.

Another thing, about opening it up at certain times or having it open 24/7. If we do open it up at certain times, then that would mean during those times the server lag in FeralHeart would be horrendous. However, if we have it open 24/7, while at first we would get a huge wave of people getting into and playing the game, the lag would eventually die down and settle out once people stopped registering naturally. It would also die down the other way, but it would take much, much longer. I'm now starting to lean more towards keeping it open at certain times because of this, as after the registration period is done, the lag would be gone, and we could get back to our merry ways.
Title: Re: What Should Feral-Heart Do With Registration?
Post by: Ellen11v on May 06, 2017, 10:54:12 pm
Hey, I like your idea! It would defenitely work to get more people on the game.
But note that the more people on the game, the bigger the lag, and crashes.
The server can't handle so many people. There's a reason that the staff took the 24/7-timed registration down, a long time ago, and randomized the opening times!

If 2000 people began being active in the game, there would be many complaints and stuff like that, because tons of people would crash.

If the server were made stronger (meaning; to handle more users online: thousands of users online), then your idea would've probably been taken into account. ^^

To those who still question about the registration openings, I highly suggest that you read this long pile of information and F.A.Q here: [Link] (https://feral-heart.com/smf/index.php?topic=50461.msg685616#msg685616)

Irrelevant text 'bout the thread I linked for ya:
(By the way, the reason the big thread I linked to you exist, is because me, Alpha Eclipse, and some other old buds made dis> Link (https://feral-heart.com/smf/index.php?topic=50444.0))
(Edit: I noticed you can't see her posts anymore, sorry 'bout that ^^)