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Title: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: Ellen11v on March 05, 2019, 07:05:45 pm
Okay... Okay... I admit.
I kinda wish I could get a custom title... To feel like one of those “special kids”. Please don’t boo at me :( I’m aware it’s a childish desire. I know, I know.
I especially got this idea after seeing I didn’t get the MOTS title *gets thrown tomatoes at*

But... :-[

What if people who also became qualified nominees during MOTS could earn a custom title for their  doings and behavior towards the community? They’ve spreads tons of love, too. And I’m not only speaking about myself. The other nominees have done a wonderful job too, which is why they were nominated in the first place, and therefore should be rewarded with just a custom title, too!
It isn’t that many people anyway, right? Or still too much?

Tell me if you agree or not, and feel free to share your thoughts on this petition.
Why do I feel like I shouldn’t have done this
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: GracebyTrace on March 05, 2019, 07:17:31 pm
Don't feel bad about sharing what you think is important to you, everyone has something that they think is important, it's only foolish to think that it is bad to share it.

But about the idea, I really like it and I feel like it would bring a whole new meaning to everyone who participated, that way they don't feel left out and like complete losers... Just saying.


Check your messages for mine, I asked you things ;-;
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: Ame88 on March 05, 2019, 07:19:23 pm
Quick note before I reply:
If you're gonna have people vote, next time you can add a pole that says yes or no to this idea. x)

I love the idea for others to get a custom title as well, however if we do this, then the members who got nominated kind of loose a special timed gift that they are given for being nominated. I personally think it should stay as a special thing the members of the season get after being nominated for showing how helpful and dedicated they are.

That doesn't mean you aren't helpful and dedicated, because you are. Don't feel bad, Ellen. There's always Summer and the following seasons! You qualified in this round, so there's always a chance for you to qualify again in Summer. Time flies and it'll be summer before you know it. Just keep being the kind, caring, and helpful floof you are <3
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: Likuu on March 05, 2019, 07:22:32 pm
Well, I do believe the custom title is meant to be for those who win MOTS as a sort of "prize" that they earned. Maybe staff would make it where those who were nominated could use them as well as they did work just as hard as those who won.

Maybe if not, there could be like some sort of badge system? Where members can have little badge icons on their mini profile showing things like:
x Member for 4 years
x Preset Maker
x Map Maker

Maybe even make it where those who have many posts on the forum get badges that say like or even MOTS stuff:
x Jr Member
x Dedicated Member
x 2019 Spring MOTS // 2019 MOTS // Nominated for MOTS // Previously MOTS

Could do a lot more with it as well, these are just some really poor examples I can think of at the moment lol. This would of course just be all in a little fun and nice to have cute little icon thingies.

However I do think MOTS nominees should at least be considered about getting some sort of thing to show that like "Hey I was nominated as well!" sort of thing I guess, would be real nice and sweet!

Ahhh one more thing I'd like to add is, I feel as though members who have been MOTS in the past should at least have the ability to change their custom title whenever after their time is up maybe?
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: VortexAlive on March 05, 2019, 07:29:55 pm
This would be an interesting thing to have implented, a nice little reward for the nominees for their good work. Maybe a new special rank, with normal name color, so that the title is still a timed thing and kept as a gift for nominees and MOTS?

Edit: I think the Badge ideas from Orchid and Bloo. are good to!
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: Ellen11v on March 05, 2019, 07:30:50 pm
Thank you guys. It really means a lot to me that you're not totally against my idea and support it in some ways. <3

And those are some really good ideas, Orchid! I agree 100%.
<3

Also Ame, I can't make a poll on this thread for some reason. Don't know why. ;_;
Here's proof xD
(https://i.imgur.com/tjPbKrE.png)
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: Astraea on March 05, 2019, 07:36:13 pm
Indeed, following Orchid's comment; the custom title is a 'reward' for earning MOTS and it has always been that way as stated in the MOTS thread. Though; I would personally like to see a sort of system of maybe when you get to a certain post count it can unlock or something of the sorts.

I do think that previous MOTS members should also be able to change their custom title whenever they would like. I find it odd that you cannot after your time as MOTS is over. Also, maybe there can be a reward for the ones who were nominated, a smaller award perhaps for their contributions and activity? Just my thoughts. <3
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: Bloo. on March 05, 2019, 07:46:58 pm
I'm agreeing with Orchid and Esarosa in regards to MOTS receiving the ability to change their custom title as a prize. This is why members have the ability to add a personal text, which shows below the avatar. It doesn't mean in any way that those nominated for MOTS are not deserving, or hardworking, it simply means the community saw a bit more from those voted as MOTS. A lot of users don't try to get MOTS, they simply go about their business helping people, commenting nice things on threads, adding their input here and there, and contributing to the community with their creations. When users vote for MOTS, I would like to think they vote for who seems the most genuine in their efforts towards the community.

With that said, you shouldn't feel bad, Ellen! Even being nominated means you were recognized by the community for all you do. And who knows, maybe you lost the vote by one, or two? You never really know how close you were. MOTS is just a title that goes away within a few months, these members still go about what they were doing, as do those nominated.

Going back to custom titles, I think they should be left as little consolation prizes for those who truly go above and beyond and were voted MOTS. I like Orchid's idea about badges though, they could go on your profile page so they don't clutter up the mini profile and could include things like when you won a contest, got MOTS, or were nominated for something. Maybe even participation badges, such as for holidays and what not.
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: Bawfle on March 05, 2019, 09:46:26 pm
Some boards don't allow the polls, which is most likely why you cannot use them here!

As for the idea, I think the 'privilege' of custom title should be widened for sure, because it's fun to have tiny little privileges here and there- especially when forum badges don't work around here anymore. I don't agree that qualified users should be able to use the function as and when they want like MOTs winners, but I do think it would be fair for the remaining qualified users to have the single opportunity to selecting what text they want displayed in their custom titles (provided by staff with the ability to grant you a custom title). Something that can only be placed once, so basically something you'd have to think about before requesting it be put up there as it would work as a one-choice type 'well done' prize that can't be modified unless you qualify again or win MOTs to be able to change it as many times as you want.

I also think generally custom titles would make very good prizes in other areas as well, like first-place winners for preset contests or other first-place winners in other forum hosted contests. Sure, qualified users in MOTs don't count as first-place winners, but at the same, for someone to be qualified for MOTs they would have had to put in more meaningful and community-based time than what is given to a preset, so it should be rewarded for sure.
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: Dinhosaurr on March 05, 2019, 09:48:39 pm
Bloo, Esarosa, and Orchid have all made quite generous approaches to this, and I don't think I'll have to say much as my ideas have been primarily pointed out. I'll only add a little input on what I think. ;o

Quote
I kinda wish I could get a custom title... To feel like one of those “special kids”.
Although I can understand where you're coming from, a Custom Title doesn't necessarily mean that you're a 'super special cool kid,' it's simply a prize, to reinstate, for MOTS that have been voted for during said season. Regular members have a "custom" or personal text that you can place beneath your avatar picture, and you can change whatever the text says, whenever you want. MOTS are voted for by the community, and to be nominated by your fellow players is already quite the prize, but a Custom Title is something small to go along with their choosing !

If there were set expectations / requirements for the Custom Title status, some might view it as "defeating the point" for a Custom Title. Similar to how proboards forums and IT servers set Custom Titles for their members, it serves it's case as a special prize.

Although, counteracting this view point, having alternatives for a Custom Title would also be very unique !
Badges or Titles like...
 >> Senior Member.
 >> Veteran Member.
 >> Map Maker.
 >> Preset Maker.
 >> Trusted Helper !
 >> Helper !
 >> Modification Creators !
etc, etc.

With all of that set aside, you shouldn't feel ashamed or mock yourself for bringing this up, Ellen ! You have a great personality and you go around trying to help people, or ask them how their day was. Those nominated for MOTS should definitely get their share of love, but many, or rather all who were voted for have been recognized and envied by those who wished that they were able to even get a single vote. MOTS are interchangeable, and you shouldn't pull yourself down ! Know that you'll still have more chances to become a MOTS and help provide ideas to continue to better Feral-Heart.

I have no doubt that you are a good person, who helps around the community and tries to remain friendly and helpful with everyone, but try not to push yourself and make it become a job that you must do to obtain the short-lived status as a MOTS ! Let helping out and being friendly with others be a natural instinct or a habit instead of a desire that comes with a prize. xx
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: Jango_Fett on March 05, 2019, 09:57:33 pm
i think we used to have a badge system back in the day, when it was member of the month and not member of the season


i'm not gonna format this so i hope it's readable
ech




i think there should be more opportunities to earn the custom title thing, but not necessarily easier.
you should still put effort into trying to get it
even if you were nominated i don't really think you should get the reward that those who actually won it got

sure, it smarts to get so close and then fall just short. but that's how it happens.
try harder next time.



but it'd probably smart less if there were others ways of going about it - if the custom title is something you want out of it, at least.
don't let it cloud the reason you're actually doing this.
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: Azurain on March 05, 2019, 10:23:35 pm
Everyone made very good points yes. I think the custom title privilege should stay with MOTS and staff as well, and I do love the idea of former MOTS being able to chance their custom title whenever they feel like it.
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: Lady_Alizarin on March 05, 2019, 10:29:43 pm
In my honest opinion, I'm a little on the fence with this one, but am starting to fall onto a side the more I think about it.

I understand the good intention behind your idea here. You, along with the other nominees of the Spring MOTS have done a wonderful job of making this community a friendly and enjoyable place for others. You go above and beyond to help other members of the community, and put forth great effort to make this community a friendly environment. People have recognized your efforts and that is why you were rightfully nominated to be a potential MOTS.
However, with all those members who have proven themselves worthy of the title of MOTS, there can only be three winners every season. Trust me when I say it can be difficult to just vote for only 3 people, but I choose the people who I think have done the best out of all of them based on what they've done for the community.

I say I agree more with these words here...

i think we used to have a badge system back in the day, when it was member of the month and not member of the season

i'm not gonna format this so i hope it's readable
ech

i think there should be more opportunities to earn the custom title thing, but not necessarily easier.
you should still put effort into trying to get it
even if you were nominated i don't really think you should get the reward that those who actually won it got

sure, it smarts to get so close and then fall just short. but that's how it happens.
try harder next time.

but it'd probably smart less if there were others ways of going about it - if the custom title is something you want out of it, at least.
don't let it cloud the reason you're actually doing this.

Everyone made very good points yes. I think the custom title privilege should stay with MOTS and staff as well, and I do love the idea of former MOTS being able to chance their custom title whenever they feel like it.

I do remember a time where we did have those member of the month badges in the early days of Feral Heart. Not sure why they were discontinued, but I think it would be nice if the profile badges were to be brought back for those win MOTS, or any other FH activities, games, competitions etc.

Back to my other point...
I honestly think the privilege of having a custom title should be given to those who earned the title of Member of The Season. Yes, the nominees were just as worthy, but I don't think it's necessary to give them the same "reward" as those who won. I don't mean to sound harsh, but giving the rewards to those who didn't win the MOTS to feel like the "special kids" sounds like a participation trophy mentality. I'm not saying you do not deserve it, but you shouldn't expect a freebie. I'm sorry to say it, but that's not how life works. I'm not trying to berate you for your thoughts and feelings here, for you have a right to express them. I respect your opinion, but my opinion is I don't think this is truly necessary and defeats the purpose of some privileges MOTS get.

But look, don't stop doing what you're doing. You're one of those kind, dedicated, and helpful members this community really needs. The proof is in efforts you put forth, and those community members who nominated and voted for you. You may not have won Spring MOTS, but there's always the next one. I wish you well, and the best of luck.

Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: LadySigyn on March 06, 2019, 01:54:21 am
I agree with a few users when they say that it should stay as just a MOTS prize, and not a reward for people who qualified. But also with what Bawfle said about it being a prize for contests and such, I really like that idea. I remember when badges were a thing and it'd be a really great idea to bring them back.

I do understand some users would like the custom title but I don't see it as a "cool kids" or "special kids" thing. It's more of a representation that these users who have custom titles have given their all to this community. Not to say you haven't, but if you work hard enough and are passionate about FH, your time will come. You made it as far as being qualified for MOTS, which to me shows that you are already hardworking and dedicated to this community. Don't let the fact you didn't come out as a MOTS get you down, you can still do good for FH either way.

You don't need a custom title to be special, because every single one of the users on here are already so, all in their own ways, including you, Ellen.
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: Ellen11v on March 06, 2019, 08:58:22 am
Thank you guys. The way you explain why and how, gives you my agreement. :)
And thanks for supporting me as a person. It warms my heart. <3
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: G4RG0YLE on March 06, 2019, 09:27:55 am
I think that it has become obvious there are quite a few people who would like to have a Custom Title under their belt, or change the one they've already had from being previous Members of the Season.

But I will have to agree with Buffy and those who would prefer it were a prize rather than an open opportunity for MOTS nominees/qualifiers. This season there were quite a few lovely floofs who were nominated, so if this Custom Title were implemented, there would have to be something done for the Qualified Users as well as the Nominated, which is where it gets a bit overwhelming, hence keeping it to just the MOTS Winners.

I think it would be pretty neat to put it in as a prize for contests. For example:
1st Place Custom Title + Full body art piece by ()
2nd Place: Headshot Art by () + Custom Interface by ()
3rd Place: ( ) dA points + In-Game Modification by ()
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: Ellen11v on March 06, 2019, 09:31:20 am

I think it would be pretty neat to put it in as a prize for contests. For example:
1st Place Custom Title + Full body art piece by ()
2nd Place: Headshot Art by () + Custom Interface by ()
3rd Place: ( ) dA points + In-Game Modification by ()
I agree with this!
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: illogicalFish on March 07, 2019, 12:53:07 pm

I think it would be pretty neat to put it in as a prize for contests. For example:
1st Place Custom Title + Full body art piece by ()
2nd Place: Headshot Art by () + Custom Interface by ()
3rd Place: ( ) dA points + In-Game Modification by ()


I agree with most of this, as for the IG Mods and Custom interface, I think that should be a rare 1st place prize for the work they take.
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: Jango_Fett on March 07, 2019, 09:18:54 pm
I think that it has become obvious there are quite a few people who would like to have a Custom Title under their belt, or change the one they've already had from being previous Members of the Season.

But I will have to agree with Buffy and those who would prefer it were a prize rather than an open opportunity for MOTS nominees/qualifiers. This season there were quite a few lovely floofs who were nominated, so if this Custom Title were implemented, there would have to be something done for the Qualified Users as well as the Nominated, which is where it gets a bit overwhelming, hence keeping it to just the MOTS Winners.

I think it would be pretty neat to put it in as a prize for contests. For example:
1st Place Custom Title + Full body art piece by ()
2nd Place: Headshot Art by () + Custom Interface by ()
3rd Place: ( ) dA points + In-Game Modification by ()

i don't really see the point of a custom interface i'll be completely honest, and it seems like a bit more work than what's probably deserved.
art's totally fine, but i don't see how winning a mod really... does much.
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: Ame88 on March 08, 2019, 04:33:51 am
i don't really see the point of a custom interface i'll be completely honest, and it seems like a bit more work than what's probably deserved.
art's totally fine, but i don't see how winning a mod really... does much.

Well, instead of it being the one thing you win with no chance of changing it, it could be one of the options you get to choose when winning X place. Like: "Art drawn by X, Custom interface by X, or (whatever else) by X. You must only pick one." Something along those lines to give the winner(s) more options and fun things to pick from.
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: Jango_Fett on March 08, 2019, 06:11:05 am
i don't really see the point of a custom interface i'll be completely honest, and it seems like a bit more work than what's probably deserved.
art's totally fine, but i don't see how winning a mod really... does much.

Well, instead of it being the one thing you win with no chance of changing it, it could be one of the options you get to choose when winning X place. Like: "Art drawn by X, Custom interface by X, or (whatever else) by X. You must only pick one." Something along those lines to give the winner(s) more options and fun things to pick from.

i guess that kinda works, but it's just an... odd prize i guess.
especially for something that a lot of people just won't choose.
but it's an option, so not much to harp on.
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: Ellen11v on March 08, 2019, 06:20:09 am

i guess that kinda works, but it's just an... odd prize i guess.
especially for something that a lot of people just won't choose.
but it's an option, so not much to harp on.
Don’t think too mich about it, our Scally was just coming up with ideas. :3
Yet, nice that you would give it feedback, if it were to be used.
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: WolfQueen on March 08, 2019, 08:24:13 pm
I got a custom title without ever being MOTS but it was not under my discretion (i love it tho pls don't remove it)

The only reason why I would want MOTS is for the custom title tbh. I would love to have other options to add a custom title because I feel ungrateful thinking this way lol.
I agree with the idea of adding badges to profiles again. Not sure why it was removed tbh.
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: G4RG0YLE on March 10, 2019, 04:38:59 pm
i don't really see the point of a custom interface i'll be completely honest, and it seems like a bit more work than what's probably deserved.
art's totally fine, but i don't see how winning a mod really... does much.

Well, instead of it being the one thing you win with no chance of changing it, it could be one of the options you get to choose when winning X place. Like: "Art drawn by X, Custom interface by X, or (whatever else) by X. You must only pick one." Something along those lines to give the winner(s) more options and fun things to pick from.

i guess that kinda works, but it's just an... odd prize i guess.
especially for something that a lot of people just won't choose.
but it's an option, so not much to harp on.

It doesn't really matter if it's not a popular choice from users,
it is still an offer from a/several Staff member(s) who're more than willing to put the effort into changing the game's default design for their benefit. Personally, I like to have a different interface as well as other in-game modifications, to fit what I find appealing to the eye.

It has been discussed that we need more or new prizes to be given out at contests,
so custom interfaces have come into play because I, myself, enjoy making them and especially for other people who want them. I prefer offering that then art as I suck at art.
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: Valar.Morghulis on March 10, 2019, 04:58:53 pm
I think that custom interface would be a really lovely prize. Especially since not many people want/know/can do that themselves, for various reasons (not knowing how, having an old computer/laptop, a program that doesn’t work properly, etc..)
And just the feeling of having something made specifically for ‘you’ is somewhat special.
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: wolfdog01 on March 10, 2019, 09:36:57 pm
Here is a question: if you win a prize but don't want it, could you pass it on to someone else or just say no? That is if it wasn't choice in a contest and just a given prize for the winner. Cause I am happy with the default FH interface and stuff, not trying to sound rude, some of them are very cool looking.
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: Valar.Morghulis on March 10, 2019, 09:54:43 pm
Here is a question: if you win a prize but don't want it, could you pass it on to someone else or just say no? That is if it wasn't choice in a contest and just a given prize for the winner. Cause I am happy with the default FH interface and stuff, not trying to sound rude, some of them are very cool looking.

You can always say “no”. No matter what. There are two prizes, so you’d still get something. :3
I think that being able to pass on the prize to someone else is kind, but It misses the point of winning that prize. Because if the custom interface is only for the 2nd place (from Scally’s comment earlier), you’d be able to give the prize to only one person. Which in general wouldn’t be fair. If the 3rd winner gets your prize, technically they would in the end win, because they now have more prizes than the actual winner of the contest.
Title: Re: Petition about Custom Titles (Decrease requirements)
Post by: Ame88 on March 10, 2019, 11:54:03 pm
Here is a question: if you win a prize but don't want it, could you pass it on to someone else or just say no? That is if it wasn't choice in a contest and just a given prize for the winner. Cause I am happy with the default FH interface and stuff, not trying to sound rude, some of them are very cool looking.

You can always say “no”. No matter what. There are two prizes, so you’d still get something. :3
I think that being able to pass on the prize to someone else is kind, but It misses the point of winning that prize. Because if the custom interface is only for the 2nd place (from Scally’s comment earlier), you’d be able to give the prize to only one person. Which in general wouldn’t be fair. If the 3rd winner gets your prize, technically they would in the end win, because they now have more prizes than the actual winner of the contest.

Instead of passing the prize to fellow winners, 2nd and 3rd, there could be a restriction so that you cannot pass it to any of the other winners since they got their own prize. Instead you could give it to anyone else who hasn't received a prize already from anyone else if the others give out their prizes as well. It's not about winning, but being fair with prizes and who earns them, and what the receiver wishes to do with 'em. Grated it's a contest, it's all in good fun, however.