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Title: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Azurain on December 21, 2017, 09:58:10 pm
Fixed Registration Times?
An idea I randomly came up with while thinking of a game called Flight Rising.

Flight Rising usually has closed registration that opens a few days out of the month and they'll usually make a post or something that way people can know when to catch it open.

Why don't we do that?

Open it maybe the first three days of the month (or just whenever anything suits us) and when the time is rolling around, send an announcment (maybe here on the forums, on the DA page and on the Tumblr) so that everyone may know about it and they won't miss their chance.

Have it totally open during those days (don't know how long it would have to be open. I'd say three at the most) that way everyone gets a chance and people won't have to wait so long to catch it (cause let's face it, many many people complain about the extremely slim chance they get to make an account and it's so random some people have to wait weeks, even months!)

The only downfall I could possibly see in this is the amount of people that would flock and join at those times. However since activity has really dropped since the days in 2011 and 2012, I don't think we'd really have that issue anymore. And if anything, maybe with the upcoming patch, maybe a server cap increase could happen (although I don't know how likely that is because money and all)

The possible return of General?
Now that brings me to the next discussion, something that has literally been brought up countless times. General.

Now I wasn't around when General was, or even when it was taken out. But I do know that many many people say that the death of General was basically what brought FeralHeart to its knees (ok maybe not that dramatic but whatever) And from what I've heard, that IS when activity started dropping. I feel if it was brought back, along with fixed registration times, that it would bring the spark back to the game,
 especially with the upcoming patch.

Yeah we can't really add much more to the game because of the missing source code, but maybe bringing General back will help heal things over?

Yes it would be harder to look after but...would it really be any different than watching local? If anything it would bring the staff more help as they could literally catch ANYTHING said in General without having to move around maps as much to catch anyone hiding out in the far reaches of the map.

I feel at least bringing it back for just a little while just to see how things play out would be a good thing.

I highly doubt anything like this will happen but I just thought at least to suggest it and see what you all think. ^^
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Morqque on December 21, 2017, 10:58:06 pm
I really miss General chat though it was taken out due to spam and trolling. But with more staff that wouldnt be much of an issue.
I also wish the classic maps where back, man.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: sanrio on December 21, 2017, 11:13:52 pm
Both of these do sound like very fantastic and intriguing ideas, although I wasn't around when General was so I can't really say anything bad about it as I've never experienced it.
From what I've seen other people say about it, it's more good than bad, but that could be wrong. As Malkabre said, bringing the old maps will most likely boost FH into a more popular state. Even I wish the old maps were back as I enjoy running around the downloadable ones a lot, although maybe I just like change.

I'd love to see a staffers opinion on these suggestions.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: VortexAlive on December 21, 2017, 11:31:20 pm
I think having a fixed registration that only opened for a few days would be a great idea. As you said, it would help people who miss the opportunity to join because no one knows when it will open again other than "at random".

I also think that the return of General chat would be a good thing since, even many years after its' removal, the community still brings it up and thinks about it and how useful it was.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: turtlies on December 22, 2017, 12:57:11 am
I agree completely. Especially on the topic of bringing General back. I know there was a lot of... hostility the day General was removed, and it's definitely something that upset a lot of older players. I think a return of General would definitely bring in a lot of older players---as long as people are willing to report or remind other players of the rules, I don't think it could become that bad, at least not worse than local (obviously if General came back, the first day would have some excited chaos, but it'd probably chill out pretty quickly). Sadly, it seems this topic gets brought up every once in a while and gets shot down pretty quickly, but we can at least discuss it and hope it'll be considered.

I like the idea that's been mentioned about bringing back the old maps, too. Maybe even included as a default portal in Cape to the old maps or something? Heck, the staff could totally host a sort of "Blast to the Plast" event every once in a while and have some events held in the old maps that could just be downloadable (similar to the cinema for Movie Nights or maps for holiday events)---it'd still keep the memory of the old maps alive without having to have them as an official download.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: OnionKnight on December 22, 2017, 02:29:01 am
I absolutely agree with both of your ideas.
Personally I never understood the decision to remove general, its not that different than local other than it spans the entire map.
Trolls? Then kick them.
Spam? Warn them.
Advertisement? Those never bothered me personally but again, a DM asking to use movies would work.
If the chat bothered someone there is also the option to turn it off (like you can turn off every other chat in the game.)
I do hope one day it returns, that'll be an exciting day for me.
I should also probably note that I'm not really "bothered" by it existing or not existing either way, my personal FH experience hasn't changed much and I also slightly think the game is understaffed if moderation is an issue ;; I know the staff are trying though, real hard.

And as for registration time, yes! It doesn't even have to be a weekly registration open. Perhaps once every month just like FR does so the servers don't overload. Once every two months even, just to give people a time to aim for so they don't miss out on their opportunity.

As for the old FH maps and a desire for a "blast to the past" you may like this thread ;) --- https://feral-heart.com/smf/index.php?topic=58682.0
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Hooli on December 22, 2017, 02:55:33 am
I definitely agree with both of these ideas, they're not bad in the slightest.
The idea of having scheduled openings for registration is actually really great and I feel like that would be a really good feature to add to the game, as it's not going to constantly be open so that fear of the game getting too overpopulated again wouldn't be as possible.

General coming back also isn't that bad of an idea; I am skeptical of it, but I'm always up to giving things a second chance. With the community having grown over the years, it may be a bit different now that everyone knows that punishments for not listening in General can go as far as getting the chat removed in general. I think with that mindset people will know to behave more rather than act like they own the place whenever they were in it before it was removed. Though I agree with Malkabre when they say that with a few more staff members, the chat would be able to be monitored pretty easily.

I really hope the Staff give some thought into these ideas because I really think they might help the community in more ways than one.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: SophyTheLioness on December 22, 2017, 07:40:12 am
Yes, totally. All of the reasoning behind my opinions has been already stated above- But to add my little of a pound on here-
I think bringing General back would be far easier now that the amount of users has declined and there aren't as many trollers or wild people out there, and it would bring great joy to those of us who remember when General chat was still around, and also to those who couldnt but still wish to know what it felt to share something with everyone on the map.
Although, i suggest that, if it ended up happening (General Returning), rules applying to spam were stricter so that trouble cant stir up, including how often can roleplays advertise and whatnot.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: FlyingGrass on December 27, 2017, 02:23:45 pm
I agree, there should be an "Open registration day", make it a pattern. Exactly every 7 days could have open registration to minimize chances of people thinking the registration is shut down completely forever(Time zones are probably what's keeping users from finding the registration open, people wanting to register have to either wait days/weeks or stay up way past their bedtime/stay home from school). But, it may have lag every week, but just include a warning in a topic(Or put the warning on the homepage) that the game will lag on those days the registration is open.

OR, have the registration open all the time, and have a set day when the server updates to complete the registration of all users that have registered before that time. It will still lag a bit on those times, but put an automated warning in chat if possible. If warnings in the chat aren't possible, then put a message on the site's homepage saying something along the lines of "There is a time the game will encounter lag which is perfectly normal"

As for General Chat, and I know this needs the source code, but there should be a limit to the amount of posts that can be made every 5-10 seconds in General Chat(Wait 5-10 seconds before posting again in General Chat). Local should have a shorter limit as people can just block or lead others away from Local spammers(Or tell people how to turn off Local chat, teaching is another good use of time). The instructions of how to turn off chats could be put on the main homepage for everyone to see(So people will not have to visit the forum to learn how to turn off ingame chats).
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Kastilla on December 27, 2017, 04:34:30 pm
Fixed Registration Times?
I've thought of this many times myself, but figured it to be an inappropriate question to ask since it was in the midst the whole change. Using Flight Rising is a good example, since their servers get crowded because it's a high-demand game and everyone wants to be a part of it. However, seeing how Feral Heart is a relatively small community and most of the active populace joined on a whim in recent years or when it was still young, the staff would have to make a schedule and stick with it. Meaning, posting a nice little time-table on their tumblr, or on the front page. Just for people who do want to join and will stay, can just hop on the site and register. I am saying it like this because, well of course there will be users who get bored of Feral Heart as soon as they register because they 1.) have waited SO long that it's not exciting anymore or 2.) they never really had any interest other than to be a troll and waste time (yes, there are those people here, don't deny it). It will be hard sorting through the responsible members upon joining, but I am sure it will literally sort itself out over time. So, yes I agree that there should be certain windows to allow members who wish to join, to join and finally be able to play Feral Heart. There just needs to be a reasonable schedule, as you said, that would make sense for people who live in every part of the world.


The possible return of General?
Maybe if Feral Heart proves to be grown-up again. Little Feral Heart got punished because it was being naughty back in the day. Then again, I see no point in general. Users learned to make do without, and as Arreze mentioned, some users never experienced it. It would be confusing to them, for sure, and they may misuse it. Sure, it's nice for roleplay advertisement, but isn't that what videos were for? Plus, the amount of misbehaving that goes on in Local alone, that would move to General for everyone to see. I honestly don't think Feral Heart is ready for General to be put back, nor do I really think it will ever be again.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: WolfQueen on December 27, 2017, 10:25:25 pm
I totally support changing the registration system to what Flight Rising does. I find it much more convenient.

General should come back and I agree with all of your points. Tbh it wasn't even that bad back in the day except for the frequent arguments, which could've been prevented. Spamming was uncommon too. Besides, I think the community behaves a lot more nicer than it did in 2012-13 due to the smaller player population and with expected behavior established in the community.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Insoholic on March 05, 2018, 12:07:55 am
Bump.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Jango_Fett on March 05, 2018, 05:42:06 pm
I totally support changing the registration system to what Flight Rising does. I find it much more convenient.

General should come back and I agree with all of your points. Tbh it wasn't even that bad back in the day except for the frequent arguments, which could've been prevented. Spamming was uncommon too. Besides, I think the community behaves a lot more nicer than it did in 2012-13 due to the smaller player population and with expected behavior established in the community.

Basically this.



The old excuse of the playerbase being too big for it I think is invalid, especially since now it's incredibly small.
Not to mention with all the self-policing going on, it's a wonder the Mods need to do much. No insult meant.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Azurain on March 23, 2018, 04:11:22 am
Honestly all that needs to happen is people need to start making reports instead of just letting it happen. That would basically solve a lot of the issue right then and there.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: kewlkiera on May 09, 2018, 06:00:46 pm
I agree with all of this.
I am one of the few FH "veterans" who has been around since 2012-ish (I can't recall exactly, but I've been here a long time).
There are a few questions that arise that there are new members who have been around since general chat has been already taken out, and so it would be odd. While I agree with this, you may be forgetting of another form that it's still accessible: Private maps.
While you're unable to use General in public maps such as The Grounds, being taken by your roleplay group to their downloaded maps still allow you to use it. So it's not like it's totally foreign for those who haven't been around at the original time when General Chat was still available everywhere else.
Would General chat be misused again at the cost of it being re-open? There's no avoiding that. But we can't forget that even today in The Grounds there are a few people every now and then who think it's amusing to make inappropriate remarks. Keep in mind that in the long run of being in The Grounds, everyone is sitting around the vicinity of its entrance so that they might hear the odd small talk or person that tries to do things the old-fashioned way and advertise in Local. So really, it's not that much of a difference as to if General was still around. Yes, you can turn off General chat, but do one better for everyone else: Get into the habit of cracking down on it and gather those screenshots for reports so that those types of events can be avoided. I really think that's one of the biggest overlooked issues that would follow General's return because 85% of the time I see "Just turn off General" instead of legitimately dealing and potentially fixing the problem long-term. We'd need to protect its vitalness of advertising and keeping in touch with others across the map to avoid lag by assisting to help keep the trolls out of it. Prove that we can handle that it's back. Don't just avoid it!

As for fixed registration times, I believe that, even for a time of "experimenting" with this, would be beneficial. There have been a lot of disputes in the past about whether or not the community is smaller, but if you look realistically at the top of the "Home" page as to how many people are online, there's no argument. There were days when FH reached over 600 people online. Now, at the most, I see 350-450 on average. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's generally around that number now.
It's true that eventually all communities, like it or not, eventually begin to die off. That's just being realistic. We cannot deny this. People grow older. Most of those who were teenagers or early adults back in 2011-2012 times are long gone now, but that doesn't mean there's still an opportunity to keep it alive for the sake of a game that we truly love. We must always bear an open mind and think of both the long-term benefits and downfalls, especially if the community that you've built voices a generalized opinion on how they'd act on it. Game updates could definitely help, sure, but we can't forget about the big picture and what really keeps a game alive: Dedicated and new players alike.

Just my thoughts on this. c:
Apologies this reply was a bit late - I got caught up in finishing college stuff and then job hunting.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Admirer on May 09, 2018, 07:35:05 pm
I think both ideas are pretty rad! I've read a little into the whole General thing and if possible, maybe the staff could train some more mods and have some watch over that subforum if it was prone to trolling. General subforums are usually a mess to begin with but from experience on another site, the mods that roam that part of the forum are usually pretty troll too (just within reason and the rules.)

Also, I play FlightRising a little and I agree that the registration system they use is pretty good. It'd be a good thing to implement.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Gelid__ on August 27, 2018, 05:45:09 am
Honestly? I'd love it if both of those were implemented. As someone who once spent an entire week out of their summer to mess up my sleeping schedule so I could obsessively check the registration, I feel like getting rid of the sporadic openings would only be beneficial in the long run for the sake of keeping our community alive.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Valar.Morghulis on August 27, 2018, 10:31:15 am
I agree with all of this!
Recently so many users (I feel like It’s more than few months ago to be honest) have been begging for the registration to be opened, whether It’s full time or certain time exactly. Hopefully with the new update, some of these things will come too! Especially General chat. I agree with everyone who said that there are trolls no matter what you do. I’ve seen people in local trolling and fighting few days ago, nothing different from what could happen in general chat. The rules are very simple, if you break them, someone WILL report you. And that’s it. We can’t run away from spammers and trollers because they’re gonna be here no matter what you do. Unless you remove all chats which obviously won’t happen because It’s ridiculous lol.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Giorno on August 29, 2018, 01:17:01 am
I don't want to sound melodramatic but I believe that unless something is done about the registration time FH might not be able to stay afloat for much longer. There is no faster way to alienate a potential new wave of younger players that would breathe fresh air into the game than make them wait for an arbitrary time. I mean, let's be honest, most kids (and people in general) aren't that patient.

Now I'm not saying do away with closed registration entirely, as I understand it would put a lot of unnecessary stress on the server, but as stated, a schedule like Flight Rising might be a good solution. Even if it's open for only 1 day of the month (though arguably the sheer number of accounts being made in a single day might overwhelm the site and potentially break it, which would be a problem in and of its own), at least that would be a better alternative than leaving it up to the RNG.

I can't quite put my finger on why, but seeing 100+ guests at any given time and only around 10 members online makes me pretty sad, if not also hopeful for the future of the game.
Sorry for the rant but as someone who first joined in 2012 and got to experience FeralHeart in its prime it's fairly upsetting to see it like this.

As for general, I believe it should be brought back but it's not a top priority, i.e. something the game desperately needs.
I remember being quite disappointed when it was removed as more often than not I would end up making more friends on general than local chat (going up to people "in person" can be quite intimidating). I get the need for moderating the chat more closely, but a troll can just as easily mess with people in local as they could in general. It feels a bit like the pros of having a general chat outweigh the cons, to be honest.

whew, talk about being late to the party. sorry for the wall of text everyone
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Nephrite on September 14, 2018, 07:15:02 pm
Gosh I support both of these ideas so much!!

FeralHeart is much quieter these days than it used to be when I first joined in like 2012, which makes me sad!! There used to be on average twice as many people as there are now, mostly because I think FH’s userbase is growing up and either losing interest in the game or simply don’t have time any more. I’d love to see some new members come in, maybe after the new patch! I think I saw somewhere that there would in fact be more open registration after the new patch was added but I’m not positive. 

I’d also love to see General come back!!! I used to make so many friends through General and it was a lot easier to use for adversities groups. I think FH has matured a lot since the days when it was removed.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Redlinelies on September 28, 2018, 08:04:46 am
As someone who spent on average 8 hours a day watching the chats in FH back in the day when General chat was a thing, I can safely inform everyone here that a lot more bad situations were discussed and rubbed in peoples faces openly, I can also inform that the community didn't behave any better. General was a ticking time bomb all the time. Even less fun when you'd get a hard time from players because of the things that went down inside of it, when you tried your hardest for it not to be that terrible

General chat's design is just not there, and it should've had some sort of limit to how people could post from day one at least, such as a 5 minute cooldown so it's easier to follow and manage, and keep people from spamming worldwide messages that aren't needed for it. The most shame I feel for it was the advertising for roleplays or events and how they lost the ability to do so, but I don't really feel anything for those doing random chatter in it or spamming smiley faces, counting to 100, screaming about how their dog farted or how much they hate justin beiber, all happening several times a day.

General chat is cool sure, great tool also, has it's place in FH it does too, but not the way it worked back then.

Registration on the other hand is quite important nowadays as we do not have the same influx of users that needs to managed properly, and we do need to let the new players in on the action too. I do believe registration has started to open more frequently, but if that's enough I'm not sure of.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Azurain on September 28, 2018, 04:33:55 pm
That actually made me curious Red, is there a way to actually put a timer on general or no? I actually never thought of a "slow mode" if you will, on General. If that's possible...that would actually be an amazing idea?
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Ratel on September 28, 2018, 05:03:20 pm
Sadly, no matter if Gen comes back, once more people start joining FH again, it'll be miss-used once again. Back when there was about 500 players online it was pretty hectic to say the least- I agree with it being taken out due to this reason.

And with regarding registration, if you guys notice like I have it's open multiple times a day, and even though it may not seem like it- I see a bunch of new-comers every day.
I just wish the log-in page was more accessible, honestly because it might be confusing for new players.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Azurain on September 28, 2018, 05:08:32 pm
Yeah I've been seeing it's open more often. That's a really nice heckin thing. And honestly yeah, I can see how General could be hard. I wasn't around when it was in game but from what I heard from many players it was difficult to watch and moderate.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Astraea on September 28, 2018, 06:01:45 pm
As someone who spent on average 8 hours a day watching the chats in FH back in the day when General chat was a thing, I can safely inform everyone here that a lot more bad situations were discussed and rubbed in peoples faces openly, I can also inform that the community didn't behave any better. General was a ticking time bomb all the time. Even less fun when you'd get a hard time from players because of the things that went down inside of it, when you tried your hardest for it not to be that terrible

General chat's design is just not there, and it should've had some sort of limit to how people could post from day one at least, such as a 5 minute cooldown so it's easier to follow and manage, and keep people from spamming worldwide messages that aren't needed for it. The most shame I feel for it was the advertising for roleplays or events and how they lost the ability to do so, but I don't really feel anything for those doing random chatter in it or spamming smiley faces, counting to 100, screaming about how their dog farted or how much they hate justin beiber, all happening several times a day.

General chat is cool sure, great tool also, has it's place in FH it does too, but not the way it worked back then.

Registration on the other hand is quite important nowadays as we do not have the same influx of users that needs to managed properly, and we do need to let the new players in on the action too. I do believe registration has started to open more frequently, but if that's enough I'm not sure of.

Yeah I've been seeing it's open more often. That's a really nice heckin thing. And honestly yeah, I can see how General could be hard. I wasn't around when it was in game but from what I heard from many players it was difficult to watch and moderate.

As what Red had stated, he's right.

Back in the days there were loads of people and trying to monitor that chat was nearly impossible. Even for me reading it when I had been online, it moved so fast and I could barely keep up. THOUGH, implementing a cooldown for general chat might have been just what it needed to work in the past. Who knows. The idea sounds great though and if there was a way to code it in, and if the idea came up, giving it a try back in the day might have worked out better. I can understand completely why it was removed in the first place, though that's for sure.

As for registration, I haven't noticed a difference because I don't keep track of it. From what others say though, it sounds to be opening more frequently? If that is the case, great! It's about time. I hope those who have the chance can join, finally. <3
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: WolfQueen on September 28, 2018, 06:13:49 pm
The most shame I feel for it was the advertising for roleplays or events and how they lost the ability to do so, but I don't really feel anything for those doing random chatter in it or spamming smiley faces, counting to 100, screaming about how their dog farted or how much they hate justin beiber, all happening several times a day.
THAT MADE ME GIGGLESNORT oh 2012

i enjoyed general and it's chaotic moments to be completely honest. i was an annoying kid back then so idk if i could now.

general was very useful in a gigantic map like fluorite, but now since the maps are much smaller it's usage would be limited. i don't mind having random chatter throughout the map, so i believe general should've split into two chats if it was possible. i know it isn't at this point so i agree with the cooldown idea. it'll reduce a lot of the chaos and make some space for group and event advertisement.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Azurain on September 28, 2018, 06:26:29 pm
Another thing we can take into consideration though...back then there would be 500+ players online right? Well...these days we hardly get over 200. Maybe it would be better now? Could always just test it at least and see how it works.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Calvary on September 28, 2018, 07:12:09 pm
I’d have to agree with Azura. Nowadays we have roughly 200-300 in the community, and I feel general chat would be a lot easier to manage.

Perhaps it would be more helpful if you assigned a certain few to watch the chat to make sure it doesn’t get out of hand. Perhaps setting a limit to how many posts people can make in general chat in a certain amount of time could also help with that. Nowadays, it’ll be easier to manage. However, opening registration could probably raise our member count and general could get a bit hectic, but it doesn’t hurt to do it!
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Ratel on September 28, 2018, 07:34:33 pm
I’d have to agree with Azura. Nowadays we have roughly 200-300 in the community, and I feel general chat would be a lot easier to manage.

Perhaps it would be more helpful if you assigned a certain few to watch the chat to make sure it doesn’t get out of hand. Perhaps setting a limit to how many posts people can make in general chat in a certain amount of time could also help with that. Nowadays, it’ll be easier to manage. However, opening registration could probably raise our member count and general could get a bit hectic, but it doesn’t hurt to do it!


Regardless if we had it back or not the same issues will arise with people miss-using Gen again, there may be 200-300 but what if we start getting more members and maybe 800 a day, it will not work and it's impossible to manage all that on multiple maps- the only outcome i can see it working is if we have a timer on the chat, which I don't know is possible to implement.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: G4RG0YLE on September 28, 2018, 07:41:55 pm
Bringing back the General chat will make the typical 200-300 user activity nowadays to dramatically rise to 600-700, perhaps a little bit more/less than that. Which would end up making it much more difficult to observe and take appropriate actions from, whether it's reporting or Staff kicking and banning. A lot of users left due to the removal of General chat, so it's return would only bring back numerous people.

I also think that any limiting of messages being delivered into chats by users would have been implemented a long time ago, to prevent spam. Especially movie clip spamming as that is the biggest issue currently, with the occasional user who'll spam "          " throughout the entire chatbox for no known reason.

However, I do agree that the Registration times should be increased or more varied.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Calvary on September 28, 2018, 07:45:39 pm
I’d have to agree with Azura. Nowadays we have roughly 200-300 in the community, and I feel general chat would be a lot easier to manage.

Perhaps it would be more helpful if you assigned a certain few to watch the chat to make sure it doesn’t get out of hand. Perhaps setting a limit to how many posts people can make in general chat in a certain amount of time could also help with that. Nowadays, it’ll be easier to manage. However, opening registration could probably raise our member count and general could get a bit hectic, but it doesn’t hurt to do it!


Regardless if we had it back or not the same issues will arise with people miss-using Gen again, there may be 200-300 but what if we start getting more members and maybe 800 a day, it will not work and it's impossible to manage all that on multiple maps- the only outcome i can see it working is if we have a timer on the chat, which I don't know is possible to implement.

That’s true to say the least. It’s like having one or the other, because it’s nearly impossible to have both. I’m unsure if a timer could be implemented into the chat, but there has to be one sort of solution, aye? I’m sure we’d figure it out.

I would enjoy having registration be similar to Flight Rising. However, I know a lot of players are often turned away by the login page. For me, as well, I struggle a lot with it and it’s an added nuisance when trying to play. Maybe removing it would do players some good?
As for general chat, if it was kept, a timer or a limit on how many posts go in per minute or two would really help cut back on general chat spam.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Ratel on September 28, 2018, 07:56:37 pm
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That’s true to say the least. It’s like having one or the other, because it’s nearly impossible to have both. I’m unsure if a timer could be implemented into the chat, but there has to be one sort of solution, aye? I’m sure we’d figure it out.

I would enjoy having registration be similar to Flight Rising. However, I know a lot of players are often turned away by the login page. For me, as well, I struggle a lot with it and it’s an added nuisance when trying to play. Maybe removing it would do players some good?
As for general chat, if it was kept, a timer or a limit on how many posts go in per minute or two would really help cut back on general chat spam.

The log-in page is purely to deter hackers, if it was removed it would open the server back up which we don't want to happen again. I would like to see it more accessible through the registration as new players probably don't realize it exists.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Kuri on September 28, 2018, 10:00:23 pm
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That’s true to say the least. It’s like having one or the other, because it’s nearly impossible to have both. I’m unsure if a timer could be implemented into the chat, but there has to be one sort of solution, aye? I’m sure we’d figure it out.

I would enjoy having registration be similar to Flight Rising. However, I know a lot of players are often turned away by the login page. For me, as well, I struggle a lot with it and it’s an added nuisance when trying to play. Maybe removing it would do players some good?
As for general chat, if it was kept, a timer or a limit on how many posts go in per minute or two would really help cut back on general chat spam.

The log-in page is purely to deter hackers, if it was removed it would open the server back up which we don't want to happen again. I would like to see it more accessible through the registration as new players probably don't realize it exists.

A timer between posting in general can probably be done easily enough serve side (i don't know for sure, but probably)

But the part i agree with most is the log in page, and a simple explanation of why there's a log in page being rather accessible.  Kind of 'In your face link"
The amount of help threads i've seen by people who don't know it exists...
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Redlinelies on September 29, 2018, 02:42:49 am
It would be all on Raz really if he could manage to find a good way through server side code to do so. I know this cooldown was briefly spoken about in the past regarding gen but wasn't a priority due to other things going on and it already being removed. A cooldown for movie clips were also suggested but I'm honestly not sure how hard or easy it would be for him to add such.

The thing is I'd also like to see the server send out a message in the players chat box every time they'd hit that cooldown so they know that whatever they sent will not show, otherwise frustration is bound to happen and it's the game's or admins fault. xD
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Calvary on September 29, 2018, 03:38:29 am
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That’s true to say the least. It’s like having one or the other, because it’s nearly impossible to have both. I’m unsure if a timer could be implemented into the chat, but there has to be one sort of solution, aye? I’m sure we’d figure it out.

I would enjoy having registration be similar to Flight Rising. However, I know a lot of players are often turned away by the login page. For me, as well, I struggle a lot with it and it’s an added nuisance when trying to play. Maybe removing it would do players some good?
As for general chat, if it was kept, a timer or a limit on how many posts go in per minute or two would really help cut back on general chat spam.

The log-in page is purely to deter hackers, if it was removed it would open the server back up which we don't want to happen again. I would like to see it more accessible through the registration as new players probably don't realize it exists.

A timer between posting in general can probably be done easily enough serve side (i don't know for sure, but probably)

But the part i agree with most is the log in page, and a simple explanation of why there's a log in page being rather accessible.  Kind of 'In your face link"
The amount of help threads i've seen by people who don't know it exists...

I can't say enough how much of a nuisance the login page is. I get it's a way to keep us all safe, but at this point, it's doing more harm than good for every player. When the log in page came out, that is where we lost a majority of our community, because either people were too frustrated by it, or they eventually got tired of it, or they couldn't even get into the game with it.

It would be all on Raz really if he could manage to find a good way through server side code to do so. I know this cooldown was briefly spoken about in the past regarding gen but wasn't a priority due to other things going on and it already being removed. A cooldown for movie clips were also suggested but I'm honestly not sure how hard or easy it would be for him to add such.

The thing is I'd also like to see the server send out a message in the players chat box every time they'd hit that cooldown so they know that whatever they sent will not show, otherwise frustration is bound to happen and it's the game's or admins fault. xD

I agree with that as well. I'd love to see something implemented. Maybe not a timer exactly, but a set limit on how many posts you can put in per minute or so. Otherwise, people will spam their ads all day with no consequence. Setting that limit and having a warning to stop them or else their messages wont send, I'd really love to see that put in.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Redlinelies on September 29, 2018, 03:58:05 am
I personally believe one post for x minutes is the way to do it over x amount of posts within a set limit of time for both general and movie clips as it has been proven that it takes just a few users to go over board.
Title: Re: Fixed Registration Times + Maybe the Return of General
Post by: Calvary on September 29, 2018, 04:02:45 am
I personally believe one post for x minutes is the way to do it over x amount of posts within a set limit of time for both general and movie clips as it has been proven that it takes just a few users to go over board.

That does make a bit more sense. Perhaps I worded it the wrong way, but it's truly something to consider if possible! Rather than keeping a steady watch on ever user in the General chat, it would be nice to have that sort of system implemented to take the load off of the team's back so they can tend to other matters.
Hopefully it's something that could be introduced, given everyone enjoys the idea.