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Title: 18+ Board?
Post by: ArcticGalaxy on December 25, 2016, 03:50:40 am
Don't know if it's ever been discussed, but would there actually ever be a way to put a board strictly for 18+ people? I've seen quite a few other message boards with them and wondered if it could be a thing here.

But I do know the downfall of it as well, such as small kids getting in anyway and seeing things they probably shouldn't (although there won't be anything terrible like porn, blood/gore, things like that, just more adult stuff) and it would always need careful monitoring.

But I just thought it could be an idea to at least throw out there. ^^
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: WolfQueen on December 25, 2016, 05:15:30 am
I think as long as there is a "child-friendly" rule, I support the 18+ board idea.
Chicken Smoothie has an 18+ board on the site's forums. It's not strictly for adults (minors can post there too) but the board is more for general mature discussions, like mental illness, gender/sexual identity, etc.
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: greenart6 on December 25, 2016, 05:28:30 am
I'm not completely sure if an 18+ board would be appropriate for a website like this, since it might be difficult to moderate and there'd be a higher possibly for things going a bit too far (as even if it wouldn't allow SUPER mature topics, it's possible some people might not realize that or start to push the limits), though I do think this is a good idea! I haven't seen it brought up many times in the past here.

If it were implemented, though, I have to agree with WolfQueen that I think it'd be nice to have it function similar to Chickensmoothie's 18+ board. It wouldn't have things that would go against Feralheart's rules and younger kids could be able to view it (there'd be a lot of warnings and such though, of course), but just a place that's geared towards adults or older teens and has a more serious tone would be nice.

This is an good idea, though! I'm interested to see what the staff would say about this.
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: Bloo. on December 25, 2016, 04:39:24 pm
I think it's a wonderful idea!

There are quite a number of FH users who are 18+ if not nearly there. It could be run similarly to Chicken Smoothie's 18+ board in that more mature topics may be shared and discussed. However, there would be a disclaimer of sorts (if you are under 18 be aware that some topics may not be suitable: Viewer Discretion is Advised) kinda thing haha And it could of course be well moderated.
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: TwistedSorrowzz on December 26, 2016, 01:30:12 am
I think this is a great idea, As I think some topics that older people would want to discuss would be great. But as Bloo said, There would need to be a disclaimer to younger players. Not anything like a threat, Just a tiny nudge that they need to be mature when they are rolling around if there was ever to be an 18+ topic.
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: CosmoFursi on December 26, 2016, 01:43:09 am
i mean i too am agreeing with this

but since i'm not yet eighteen (and very proud of being young), and i am also as mature as one (i don't label myself as mature but apparently my therapist does), would i even be allowed in the board.

i'm fine with not, but i'm way much more mature than what people stereotype thirteen-year-olds to be. i know all about gore, non-asexual things, and stuff like that. and i'm mature about it.

would i even be able to look at the board.

it's just a question. sorry if i made it sound like something else (i can't tell tones in text or in voices. not even my own).
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: TwistedSorrowzz on December 26, 2016, 01:46:51 am
i mean i too am agreeing with this

but since i'm not yet eighteen (and very proud of being young), and i am also as mature as one (i don't label myself as mature but apparently my therapist does), would i even be allowed in the board.

i'm fine with not, but i'm way much more mature than what people stereotype thirteen-year-olds to be. i know all about gore, non-asexual things, and stuff like that. and i'm mature about it.

would i even be able to look at the board.

it's just a question. sorry if i made it sound like something else (i can't tell tones in text or in voices. not even my own).
I'm guessing everyone would be allowed on the board, But before you 'enter' the topic section, I would think that it would give you a little notice before letting you into the 18+ boards.
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: Morgra on December 26, 2016, 04:36:28 am
i mean i too am agreeing with this

but since i'm not yet eighteen (and very proud of being young), and i am also as mature as one (i don't label myself as mature but apparently my therapist does), would i even be allowed in the board.

i'm fine with not, but i'm way much more mature than what people stereotype thirteen-year-olds to be. i know all about gore, non-asexual things, and stuff like that. and i'm mature about it.

would i even be able to look at the board.

it's just a question. sorry if i made it sound like something else (i can't tell tones in text or in voices. not even my own).

Considering that FeralHeart is geared for a younger crowd, if there was an 18+ board, it would not exceed a certain level in inappropriateness. I'm sure those younger than 18 would be allowed to use the board as long as they are mature about what they post and comment on.


Also, my response to this topic: I think it might be a good idea but I'm not sure what kinds of more mature topics would really apply to FeralHeart, so I'm not sure if we'd get as much use out of it as we're thinking. But, that doesn't mean it isn't worth trying it out. I have a few concerns about it, including people thinking it is a safe ground to post inappropriately and cross the barrier between mature discussion and rated R discussion. As long as the board is able to be monitored, this wouldn't be an issue. But, considering that we are short staffed as it is, it'd be difficult for our current team to keep up with it. So, even if this were to happen it wouldn't be anytime soon.
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: Insoholic on December 27, 2016, 07:05:04 pm
Honestly, I think it's not a very solid idea. It'll take a lot of time & effort to just set up the new board and I'm not fully certain the staff should put their time around monitoring it. I believe the current staff team is busy with their own projects as well as the current contests and events we have. There's plenty of other places on the internet where you can talk and discuss about adult things. '^^
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: Feareh on December 27, 2016, 07:58:22 pm
 I personally think that with this kinda section open with just a very open like description just from the title itself(cause lets face it....half the people don't bother reading the warning labels) can be abused. Really the target audience for Feral Heart intended to be is for younger people, even tho oldies like me still love the place for what it is. I mean it's a great idea since it gives the more mature peeps around here more room for topics, but I generally don't believe Feral Heart is the place for that. If anything, that's what skype and discord be fore B). Also like mentioned already, more work for staff to monitor and with registration open and all im sure they will be busy.
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: WaterMelons4lif on January 01, 2017, 10:58:52 pm
I'm about 29 , right now , and I support the idea of having an 18+ board on here.
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: Halfless on January 02, 2017, 12:57:43 am
i dont really see the harm in having an 18+ board. some users have grown with the site, and having an area to discuss more mature topics could be beneficial. however im also okay with these topics being PM'd or whsipered about in game as well, so that there isnt too much of a chance of minors stumbling onto the wrong board.
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: FOXHOUND on January 02, 2017, 05:32:31 am
the title of '18+' is kinda misleading tbh& there's also just the general premise that online you.......... really can't confirm whether or not someone is above eighteen or below. plus just, inherently, when you see 18+ regardless of whatever mentality the board is meant to possess your mind immediately associates it with graphic or sexual content. there's plenty of space to have mature and  meaningful discussion without a board specifically for adults on the forum of an animal game which has 'keep it PG13' in rules and, as an animal game, will thereby attract a large younger audience.  anything 'adult-ly' worth discussing on such a board could be discussed out in the open w/o the guise of 'adults only, lol'. like.... idk if y'all wanted to have a convo about current social issues or gender/sexuality/etc you could do so respectfully in a non-graphic way w/o a board discluding minors u know? it's just a matter of how u phrase it.  none of those topics have to be sensitive or treated as 18+ if they're discussed in a Genuinely Respectful Way. and anything that is outside of those boundaries that delves into the actual meaning of '18+' really......... does not belong on FH at all.
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: SteampunkWolfdog on January 02, 2017, 06:05:16 pm
Noooo, no no no.

I can see the appeal, being over 18 myself. Having a place to discuss the more mature topics in life with like-minded people sounds nice. But at the end of the day, FeralHeart is geared towards the young, adolescent age group. Therefore I believe having an 18+ section wouldn't be appropriate. There are plenty of other places on the internet to discuss those sorts of things. Here isn't going to be one of them.

And even if we did get one, keeping it in an ideal clean condition just isn't going to happen. The label '18+' will just attract the wrong sort of attention.
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: Whisperingwaves on January 02, 2017, 10:40:54 pm
Indeed the section would have its proper uses, but there's always the issue with the misuse of such a board.

As Flo suggested, FH is geared more for a younger audience, while we do have older users, the section wouldn't be a fitting choice. It might attract the wrong uses while intended for the right use(mature discussion, more mature topics etc.). There's also the workload on the staff already. Having to heavily monitor a section labeled 18+ is already more work than what they already have with events, reports, moderation etc.
As much as i'd like to see such a board for mature topics and discussion among the older part of the community, I don't feel it's appropriate for the main age group that Feral Heart in itself is aimed for.

~ Whisper
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: Summeralla on March 12, 2017, 01:42:29 pm
18+ boards are kinda defeating the purpose of Feralheart. I believe FeralHeart is family friendly game for everyone, so it would't be wise to make one. Although it would be nice, I don't think its safe. Like Feareh said, it could be abused and cause chaos.

Why not make a 18+ skype conversation instead?
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: Bawfle on March 12, 2017, 03:06:57 pm
An 18+ board isn't really the best material for a child-frienly environment such as FeralHeart. Even if there were such thing of a place, it would be difficult to categorise this and more complicated. Personally, I think FeralHeart should be kept and seen as only a child-frienly and recommended PG13 environment. I very much doubt parents would appreciate an anti-social area, somewhat promoting adult themes within that area. There is no way it would work.

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Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: Avani on March 12, 2017, 03:30:39 pm
I have sort of mixed opinions on this suggestion, I am both positive and negative about it.
Though I do appreciate more mature sections on forums, this is probably not the right
place to have it considering the majority are minors. It also really depends on the topics.
More mature topics are definitely something I am interested in, but yeah, it can easily be
abused like others have stated above. It would give the staff more work to do as well.
It is difficult to keep track of who has access to these boards.
There are many websites to be found with older audiences. It is also possible to make
a group chat somewhere else where everyone who is interested can come together.
Again, I am all for more mature topics to discuss, but not on these forums.
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: misspink on March 12, 2017, 04:44:45 pm
Just create a 18+ forum or create a 18+ group?
I support the idea. There is nothing in this world that is 100% perfect so I don't see why there can't be something 18+.
There are advantages to things and there are disadvantages.
If the age limit is a problem just create it as 18+ or Mature Audience's Only? Some people may take it too far. If they do just kick them out or give strikes.
Same thing is with everything online I don't see a different.  Don't let small differences stop you from doing what you want to do.
Have fun.
Everyone stay awesome.
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: Astraea on March 12, 2017, 05:39:14 pm
This sounds like a fabulous idea! It would have to be implemented that only 18+ users can view it and I am not sure there is a code for such a thing but nonetheless a good topic. I'd love a board like that myself, it would be fun and silly! <3

Wonderful topic.<3 Don't think I have ever seen this before!
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: Panzram on March 12, 2017, 06:36:11 pm
Like some of the users have said before me, I do not believe the implementation of a mature board would be a good idea. Feralheart is a place where all ages (13+) can mingle together, not to have certain age groups shut off from part of the community. If such a board were to be added, there would always be the trouble of creating a new set of rules to go by, and even that doesn't ensure that everything will go smoothly. The Staff members already have quite a lot on their plates, and so having another board that may very well require heavy monitoring might not be the best thing right now.

If users wanted a place to discuss mature topics, they could always go elsewhere for that. This forum just isn't the place.
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: Bawfle on March 12, 2017, 09:12:32 pm
Like some of the users have said before me, I do not believe the implementation of a mature board would be a good idea. Feralheart is a place where all ages (13+) can mingle together, not to have certain age groups shut off from part of the community. If such a board were to be added, there would always be the trouble of creating a new set of rules to go by, and even that doesn't ensure that everything will go smoothly. The Staff members already have quite a lot on their plates, and so having another board that may very well require heavy monitoring might not be the best thing right now.

If users wanted a place to discuss mature topics, they could always go elsewhere for that. This forum just isn't the place.

Mmm yes, this is important to note.

I can see the appeal, being over 18 myself. Having a place to discuss the more mature topics in life with like-minded people sounds nice. But at the end of the day, FeralHeart is geared towards the young, adolescent age group. Therefore I believe having an 18+ section wouldn't be appropriate. There are plenty of other places on the internet to discuss those sorts of things. Here isn't going to be one of them.

And even if we did get one, keeping it in an ideal clean condition just isn't going to happen. The label '18+' will just attract the wrong sort of attention.

And even if we did get one, keeping it in an ideal clean condition just isn't going to happen. The label '18+' will just attract the wrong sort of attention.

Even though a lot of people think it would be a good idea, please keep an open mind about this subject in particular.

We wouldn't want to; attract the wrong attention, shut off from part of the community, give more work to staff just for the pleasure of a certain handful of people. There are plenty of other places to drag members of FeralHeart in the 18+ category. All things mentioned above are very important and things you need to consider.
Title: Re: 18+ Board?
Post by: ForestHysteria on March 14, 2017, 02:15:31 am
I don't agree with idea. The forum could be used wrongly and start a whole new gateway into drama that is unneeded.
And if your only to talk about mental illnesses and other stuff then I find no point to it as people of any age can speak generally about it and speak about it anywhere off the forum (ontop of that, people can lie about things such as mental illness and that just  goes into a whole other problem). Normally when I think about 18+ forums, I normally think of topics that are against FH's guidelines. (Swearing, implied sexual tendencies, and other no-no's) and that typically shouldn't be appropriate for this game's demographic.

Also, if we do have an 18+ forum this can increase in undesirable activities (drama, bullying, ect.) and also can put younger participants who would lie about their age at risk. I think something such as this doesn't belong on Feral Heart, and it certainly should be taken somewhere that it's okay.