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Forum Discussion / Re: Let's have a talk about censorship
« on: July 18, 2020, 05:36:30 am »
the response to this by sura is really disappointing and upsetting. i've been a major lurker for a long time, but i still see the same out of proportion responses to genuine concerns about the actions of staff members of this game.
it's honestly really sad to see that nobody can bring up a problem without being censored. i thought maybe the staff would've been better at this eventually. this isn't how you moderate a community who have very genuine and valid concerns about things like this. it shouldn't matter who the poster is, the helplines for mental health is important regardless. even then, there's no room for being petty and removing a thread from someone you don't like, regardless if it's raz. you can't use personal bias as reasoning for banning or removing threads, it's nothing short of abusing your staff privileges. it's upsetting and inappropriate to use Birdie's former MOTS status against her as well.
i'm honestly tired of seeing the same things being brought up with no change and only coming to this same point. this isn't stirring a pot - it's genuine concern for an actual issue. there's a way better response to having your issues pointed out than this.
this honestly really irks me. these things haven't been long gone, this has been a consistent issue with staff in particular. it never really went away. a chance to change it is speaking up about it. it's not on the community that the staff isn't willing to change it and instead sura bans people for pointing out their censorship and poor staffing practices in the past.
people have been silenced from speaking up about it, and here we are. fh is dying, and part of the issue is the staff's treatment of the community and raz's inability to let the game grow. sura's response to it was petty at the very least and just the fact of being banned and silenced for speaking out about it is censorship - she's proving the entire point.
there's honestly way too many issues revolving around the staff team to the community itself; lack of transparency, inactive staff, censorship, etc. etc. it's sad, how it's gone on so far. i've played this game since 2011, it's my only source of communication with people and unfortunately it's gone downhill to the point where i can't bring myself to do much else than work on maps or tab out in game.
i wanted fh to get better, but we can't even speak against staff without an out of proportion response that can be solved in a much simpler and more peaceful way. you can't moderate a community this way. this isn't brought up because we don't care, if it wasn't cared about we'd say nothing and let it stay the way it has been. and that's not good or sustainable for a game that isn't what it once was.
if you're trying to grow a community as the game does, the staff needs to grow as well. a community won't grow if they're being moderated by staff who can't grow past their mistakes and do better about them. i'm just saying, the game won't grow if you won't.
things don't improve if it's not brought to light, it'll keep staying the same if it's not talked about. if it's not changed after being brought up, it's not on us, it's on the receiving end. they made the decision not to change and continue making the same mistakes. unfortunately, this has happened here multiple times. if things had changed before, we wouldn't be here talking about it again because of another instance of the same actions. it could be raz, it could be sura or some other staff member, but either way, it still happened again with no change or accountability for it.
and that's, disappointing.
it's honestly really sad to see that nobody can bring up a problem without being censored. i thought maybe the staff would've been better at this eventually. this isn't how you moderate a community who have very genuine and valid concerns about things like this. it shouldn't matter who the poster is, the helplines for mental health is important regardless. even then, there's no room for being petty and removing a thread from someone you don't like, regardless if it's raz. you can't use personal bias as reasoning for banning or removing threads, it's nothing short of abusing your staff privileges. it's upsetting and inappropriate to use Birdie's former MOTS status against her as well.
i'm honestly tired of seeing the same things being brought up with no change and only coming to this same point. this isn't stirring a pot - it's genuine concern for an actual issue. there's a way better response to having your issues pointed out than this.
To keep coming back here and stirring up things that have been long gone for god knows how long? You think this is going to fix anything at all?
this honestly really irks me. these things haven't been long gone, this has been a consistent issue with staff in particular. it never really went away. a chance to change it is speaking up about it. it's not on the community that the staff isn't willing to change it and instead sura bans people for pointing out their censorship and poor staffing practices in the past.
people have been silenced from speaking up about it, and here we are. fh is dying, and part of the issue is the staff's treatment of the community and raz's inability to let the game grow. sura's response to it was petty at the very least and just the fact of being banned and silenced for speaking out about it is censorship - she's proving the entire point.
there's honestly way too many issues revolving around the staff team to the community itself; lack of transparency, inactive staff, censorship, etc. etc. it's sad, how it's gone on so far. i've played this game since 2011, it's my only source of communication with people and unfortunately it's gone downhill to the point where i can't bring myself to do much else than work on maps or tab out in game.
i wanted fh to get better, but we can't even speak against staff without an out of proportion response that can be solved in a much simpler and more peaceful way. you can't moderate a community this way. this isn't brought up because we don't care, if it wasn't cared about we'd say nothing and let it stay the way it has been. and that's not good or sustainable for a game that isn't what it once was.
if you're trying to grow a community as the game does, the staff needs to grow as well. a community won't grow if they're being moderated by staff who can't grow past their mistakes and do better about them. i'm just saying, the game won't grow if you won't.
things don't improve if it's not brought to light, it'll keep staying the same if it's not talked about. if it's not changed after being brought up, it's not on us, it's on the receiving end. they made the decision not to change and continue making the same mistakes. unfortunately, this has happened here multiple times. if things had changed before, we wouldn't be here talking about it again because of another instance of the same actions. it could be raz, it could be sura or some other staff member, but either way, it still happened again with no change or accountability for it.
and that's, disappointing.
