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Forum Discussion / Re: We Need Leadership
« on: April 15, 2021, 10:37:47 am »
I don't have much to say as the other staffers have stated/explained a lot of things very well. There are a few things I'd like to clear up, however

There have been claims of wrongful bans being handed out, as well as in-game kicks, etc. and there was even plenty of pages of evidence to prove this, Tumblr/deviantArt being the most popular. Of course, these situations were denied & ignored.

Users have claimed to be banned for "no reason" from the start of the game. Staff always save screenshot evidence whenever a user is punished for breaking rules. We encourage users to contact us to clarify any questions they may have. However, many players never contact us and go straight to telling their friends or mention it on their dA, Tumblr, etc. These posts rarely include legitimate evidence. The reason why staff don't respond to them is due to our punishment policy: we do not share any information with anyone except privately with the affected player. We want to help our players, but it is not our responsibility to scour the internet for these claims and explain the reasoning to the user. Not only is it impossible to find every single one, but the player should have received their reasoning as they got booted from the game to begin with. If a player has questions, our inboxes are always open and we are happy to assist
These policies have been in effect since the beginning of the game and have been enforced until today, and will continue to be enforced


When I talk about wrongful kicks & bans being handed out, I had to speak generally. I don't think the specific members of Staff that I know and have seen evidence of them doing this, would appreciate being named, as some people that linger in these forums for hateful purposes may slander them elsewhere.
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I have to say one thing, and that's about the wrongful bans.
There was a very specific public incident here on the forum here that was the straw that broke the camels back for a lot of players here. That is what jumpstarted fhn (place holder for fhu), not any in game moderation.

Fhu is a direct result of Raz' half-ass leadership.
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That said, I believe I can speak for both moderation and development teams when I say you all need to stop bringing up fhu here. Both teams are mutually exclusive and are no longer have the same ideals, drive or concept. Their only similarity is the base game. Please stop dragging fhu into these arguments; both teams just want to drop it and move on.

It's time for the community to do the same. What this team does, has absolutely nothing to do with fhu, and vice versa.

I want both games to succeed. But for that to happen, you guys need to stop with the drama every six months.

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Community Activities Hub / Re: FH History Help for Fanlore!
« on: August 15, 2020, 12:58:00 am »
Correcting your update #2. Raz has always had a broken version (as he's told it) of the code, I believe that is what was used for 1.17, to add the sliders etc. That was the shocker, that its always sorta been there, but hadn't thought to use it until then.

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Seems the recent issues were covered thoroughly but I'll list a couple other situations and give a quick hopefully unbiased synopsis. (some posts might be broken but I'll send the major links):
- Removal of general chat - One of the major chats that was visible throughout the entire map and often used for advertising was removed, causing major backlash. (X)
- Hacking incident - There was a situation involving 'hackers' taking control of accounts, I'm not sure if this was a serious threat or more of a trolling thing, but this led to the implementation of the login page which has to be open on the player's browser if they wish to play FH. (X, X)
- Buttswing - Minor in comparison to other events, but Buttswing was one of the actions/animations players could do alongside other dance moves. This caused issues with players performing this action on top of other players, particularly ones whose characters were laying down, as it mimicked inappropriate behavior not really suitable for a game generally aimed at kids/tweens. I don't have any links but this action was replaced in one of the newest updates.
- No Mod October - Genuinely not sure how much I'm allowed to say on this topic... but the thread is public. (X, X)
- The Update #1 - For the first time in forever, FH was given an update! This was before any access to the source code, but it was a major event to see a game we previoiusly thought was gonna remain the same forever get some sort of update. (X)
- The Update #2 - The source code was acquired, much to the shock of pretty much everybody. (X)
(If anyone smarter than me wants to correct any of that go ahead i have bad memory)

I think the downward spiral started with the hackening. Happened on thanksgiving a few years ago, as you wrote. That started with, obviously, the server being forced down for a while only to come back with the login. So much complaining about the login happened, in-game, but people were still in game despite that. It did issue a huge drop in population, because people used it as a reason to move on to other platforms or just on in life.

After that, the big update to change the 'classic' 1.13 maps to what is mostly the current set (Eastern Pass was different, Kibou Ridge didn't exist, and Ficho was a little different too, from 1.17). The community had wanted more maps, but they generally didn't expect a full replacement and a whole new, more cohesive world. I think many of them didn't want that at all, to be honest. Many complain/ed that it was a little too cohesive, and that they felt closed-in with the new map styles with the large borders. For a long time the favorite was Cherika and Kiwi right after the big change.

The next thing that happened to further drop popularity was the drama that led up to what is referred to as NMO. Simply put, everyone made bad decisions. The short version is that when the map making team for what would be the Eastern Pass, Kibou Ridge and Ficho update, were finished but Raz had disappeared, and the Staff then had taken it upon themselves to try to blend old FH maps into the new existing ones. It wasn't agreed upon that they should do this by Raz, and even as part of the map-making team, i had no idea they were doing it. When Raz turned it down eventually, one of the staff posted it on the forum either out of spite or to force Raz' hand by "showing him" how popular it would be. Of course Raz also reacted poorly to that, so.. All in all, it was a series of unfortunate choices by the staff and by raz himself, leading up to nearly not having any moderation staff. That never really came to fruition, I don't think, because they did eventually talk it out, and the game moved forward, with the originally agreed upon update that included Kibou Ridge, along with Ficho and EP's updates.

It seems drama peaks right around the time of an update as of late. From there, there was the character-maker update in which we saw new sliders and other changes that helped usability. That, I think went off without a hitch other than people being 'shocked' about suddenly having the source code available. And like I said above, sorta. lol

For a time things were peaceful, quiet, and numbers were slowly dwindling as same-shit-different-day got boring for many that would eventually turn into almost the entire poplation of the game just hanging out in The Grounds, some of them not so much as talking to eachother, just being there as far as anyone would be able to tell. Through that period there was some rumors and stories of staff misbehaving and former and/or retired staff retaining their moderation tools and some were abusing that ability.

We eventually come to the last few months where it came to a head when someone asked about an innocuous thread being deleted. People were removed without reason beyond having a link to fhU or simply watching the questioning thread to begin with. It snowballed and eventually things that the moderation staff I hope really regrets happened, happened. Through that, it may have been the final straw for many members. Since then many have self-deleted their profiles, and moved onto FN:FH and are awaiting FHU. Simply put, many felt threatened by the staff here, and some may still feel that way, so they left.

The Fhu thing is a total 'nother ball of wax that I am not going to get into because those who are/were directly involved were either banned for their involvement or self-removed for the same reasons. Its not my story to tell, except to say that Raz has become very bitter, and I think it's catching on with the staff.

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Community Activities Hub / Re: FH History Help for Fanlore!
« on: August 14, 2020, 05:08:11 pm »
1- I never played IT, but I consider FH to be an evolution of IT, as FHU will be an evolution of FH, when released.
2 - long enough that I know a lot of things from a lot of different people.
3- that's a strange question. It ranges from people who want to escape from their personal reality for a while to kids that just want to run around as a dog or a cat. That question is by leading and tries to make us name a particular group of people. They're the userbase.
4 & 9: do you want the real history or whatever Raz or staff decides to approve of? Because there's a lot they won't approve of but is history regardless of that approval.
5- I'm honestly no longer part of this servers community. I've moved to FN:FH (a 1.13 mapped server hosted by the fhu staff as a safer option for those who no longer consider FH safe) and eventually fhU when it goes live. How do things work.. another oddly worded question. Here? Poorly. Staff doesn't communicate anymore, and they have become a bitter set of people.

6-nobody uses the forum anymore. It's dead. The only time people post are to those forum games, or when drama pops up. This thread has huge potential for that.

7- when the game had a population, yes. From fnaf to hetalia and even Pokemon. But this server is now and has been for some time, stagnant.
8-useful? About as much as any rp does. Improved writing, creative and even social skills. Also can drive someone to research how real animals do things, or are colored etc.
9- there's a long history to fh and a lot of it is not pretty. Staff probably won't allow that story to be told.


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News Archives / Re: To clear a few things up..
« on: July 25, 2020, 12:57:41 am »
I'm pretty sure most of those removals were for years and I'm pretty sure, that holding onto that information when asked for it to be deleted, is illegal. Regardless of the reason that party wants it removed, you don't get to keep it.

The breach was when one of you decided to show off that information, not the fact you'd had access to it. That much is known as you're moderation staff.

Secondly, the thing about a self help thread like that, is it isn't so much advice as it is equal access for those who can't access them otherwise. Whether that be due to familial-pressure, inability to seek help in other traditional means. They were ONLY a reference, not advice-giving. That post was a "Here is this info in case you need it," not a "You should probably use this info if you're ... " there is a large difference between the two. How the hell would anyone even track that down anyway? Prove that they looked at an obscure forum post and not get help? That just.. the logic behind that still confounds me.

The fact that it took y'all 6mos to notice it was even there, is just amusing to me. It just shows how dead the forums really are. I'm not even requesting you reinstate the information. I just think that's a stupid reason to remove it.

As for you, Sura, the jury is still out on that. Decisions were made, actions were taken, and you can't take that back, even if you do reinstate some of those users. Your trust is gone at this point.

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Forum Games / Re: Name an animal that starts with...
« on: July 24, 2020, 03:10:47 pm »
Tiger

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Forum Discussion / Re: It's time to stop
« on: July 23, 2020, 03:32:06 pm »
I hate saying this cause I just feel it's contributing, but let's just ignore Kuri from here on out. He's making this thread about himself, and that's not what it is about.

Agree. Let's ignore the intentional attention-pulling people.


We are still waiting for answers from staff.. if y'all think ignoring it will make it go away, I think you'll find that you're quite wrong on that. Word spreads like wildfire, and when you're not going to respond, well, that just makes us believe you have nothing to say. That your actions spoke for you.

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Forum Discussion / Re: Not Involved.
« on: July 23, 2020, 12:35:55 pm »
The thing is, to speak to the op's, and original topic.. you don't have to choose sides. As much as the staff of this game has tried to force that on you, you don't have to. You can enjoy both when the time comes.

The people speaking out aren't speaking about fhU vs fh. It's not been about that for us. It's been about personal security, and freedom to post and look at these threads without fear of being removed unjustly. This thread reads as if you, too, are afraid of being unjustly removed for just watching the threads involved.

Yes, fhU staff was removed but that is not the problem at hand. It's the unjust ways the staff had been approaching things lately, especially the other night, and so far, with zero response to our concerns.

Does that mean they don't care about the fallout of what they did? Do they truly not care about their community as the claim so fervently? Their actions are speaking volumes to me.

But you do not have to choose sides. Those of us standing for the users never asked you to.

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Forum Discussion / Re: Imagine Proving a Point
« on: July 22, 2020, 11:57:01 pm »
On that note, Laarikin, you are absolutely correct. I'd like to formally apologize to everyone regarding my behavior earlier in this discussion. I was frustrated and let my emotions get the best of me, I can't say whether or not my heavy medication contributed or not, but regardless it was immature, irresponsible, and unprofessional for me to have reacted the way I did.

I can understand if this apology goes unaccepted, but I wanted to do it anyways because it was eating me up for awhile. You all make really great points and I really hope you see the changes you want in a capacity that benefits everyone.
That's all we want. Positive changes in staff and/or their behavior that benefits the game and most importantly, the community here.

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Forum Discussion / Re: It's time to stop
« on: July 22, 2020, 08:27:48 pm »
I thought that people started the whole "us versus them" thing for the sake of being dramatic.
And it's all fake drama by the way.

I keep pointing out that people don't have to be slaves to acting like toddlers (slavery to their feelings is still slavery ect) but then they just cry more.  So i can't take people seriously anymore.

You thought.

Maybe you should get all the information before injecting yourself into a situation that involves every user of this game, directly or otherwise. This situation is something that has zero to do with fhU, other than staff of this game targeting those on the development team of that game at the same time they were targeting innocent users that have no such affiliation.

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Forum Games / Re: Name an animal that starts with...
« on: July 22, 2020, 04:50:04 pm »
Shrike

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