Feral Heart
Off topic => Discussion Board => Topic started by: Tyki Mikk on March 06, 2011, 04:09:10 pm
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When I go onto the dA front page what do I see? Porn? Yeah. Exactly. I see pictures of girls in showers naked, girls pulling down their shirts, girls sitting in front of their webcams posing with no shirt and just undies with their arms blocking their cleavage.
All I ask is "Do you think when you take these pictures?" No. They don't. They want Men to look at them. Is this really what people think is art now?
I was talking with a friend of mine and he said "Its only art if you take the picture of your model with an amazing background, something that you worked hard on." THAT is art. Something you put worked on and thought of. And the amazing yet disturbing fact is that dA PUTS it on the front page. I mean really? And when you comment on this "art" you get attacked by horn dogs that like explicit crap like that with no mature content warning. They dont even have the courtesy to put a warning on it! And then they have the nerve to to put it under "fashion and Photography".
So I ask, what do you guys think about this? You think dA is becoming a porn site like me? xD
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The front page is actually not chosen by the DA staff, it is the newest images uploaded to DA. Which is annoying, because I see so many horrid things, which is why I don't go to the front page any more... At least, that's how I remeber it, unless it turned into a porn site in the week or so I've been gone...
Wait, make that the most looked at images in the last 8 hours. I suggest avoiding the front page, guys go on DA so they can claim to not be looking at porn or something, cause there are random times when you will see a bunch of just plain nude photo's
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Thanks for that correction there. But yeah, its been becoming more and more numerous. It still disgusts me how the dA community thinks about art. When you comment negatively, the artist uses the classic tard response, "Everyones view on art is different".
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Yeah, sometimes the nude photo's are tasteful, have good comments, and all that, but then there are the random girls who put up the pics for attention, like most teenage... not saying the word. I try my best to avoid those, and you can tell which are who by the quality... And art is only art when there is a reason behind it, not, i felt like getting the guys attention and all that junk.
But if you know where to go you can find some amazing stuff (even nude pics, some are stock photo's used for photomanipulation, and are put there so the people in them can get credit without the image being edited) But then there are those who I have no idea what they are actually doing on DA, other than trying to make it a porn site...
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Exactly. I understand if its for stock, because Ive used stock before. But then as you say, there are those who just want attention. dA doesnt even care it seems. They dont care if their site is turned into a porn site.
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Some of the nude pieces aren't that bad actually - and I'm not saying that in a "OMG DROOL" perverted way, I mean it in an artistic photographic way.
To be honest, I haven't seen much actual web/camera porn like what you're saying. Maybe it has to do with that I don't browse much or something to do with my premie account, I'm not sure. xD
dA = drama arena, that's dA /real/ problem. xD
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dA is definetly a drama arena. @_@ There arent any mods to count on either. Like here, when your obviously being targeted or verbally abused in some way or another, the mods are already reading over it. But there they just dont care.
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The problem is, there is no clear way to decide what is art and what isn't art with something like this. A crappy drawing is still art, even if it is not very refined. How do you decide whether a picture of a naked woman is a failed attempt at an artistic nude or just meant for porn?
In any case, those kinds of photos should be marked as mature.
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If you set your dA front page to show only 'popular' or there are a few other settings in a drop down menu, you won't encounter those kind of things xD
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Honestly I dont care if its a nude picture. So a filter is not needed in this case for me Teal. xD Its just that almost every time I see these things, its almost always the same thing. Some chick looking for attention. Some of it is for stock I know, and thats good. But when youve got a chick in nothing but undies, and under fasion and photography, thats not fashion and in no way art. Unless the thing their trying to show off is for a purpose. Other than that a nude photo with obviously no thought or effort put into it is not art to me.
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I find this funny, only because I go on dA a little more on average than FH's forum and I don't see any web camera porn.
I see artistic photographs of naked women and men, paintings and drawings of the same type and etc, but not what you're describing. Regardless, nudity requires a warning. You might have to change your settings?
I have a very broad term of art. If it's beautiful or if it means something it's art. So, technically, a naked woman posing in front of a camera would be art to me, as long as the photos aren't grainy, or obviously worthless. On the same topic, some "porn" can be considered art because it is still photography, drawing, writing, filming, etc. It still requires effort and the creator still takes at least some meaning in it, or a sense of emotion. (Under that definition, though, I guess murder could be an art >.>')
Oh well. Don't go on dA if you don't like it.
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I never said I thought it was ALL porn and I never said I dont like dA nor was I hinting at anything like that. I respect your opinion though. Im not filtering it because I understand some of it is actually IS art.
Im starting to get comments like "I dont see what your talking about" and I understand. It must be the times Im logging on randomly. I have seen some pictures that clearly had no thought in it. What Im trying
to say here is that in my opinion, standing in front of a camera and looking sexy is not art. At least put some thought and purpose behind it.
And I feel like I should point this out. Im not complaining, and Im not raging about how horrible of a site dA is. So dont attack me people. Not that Im accusing anyone. Just pointing it out before someone rage fits on me. >.>
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Oh, that's fine then. I mostly agree, that standing in front of a camera and looking sexy isn't art--most of the times. There's people who make it look beautiful. But really, I have never had that problem. I do see what you're saying. I actually don't like some things that are on dA (aka, really bad attempts at drawing and stuff, but I just avoid that. Besides, that's an artist's starting point) and other things, but you can't win 'em all. :>
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Yeah. x3
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i named my dog after Tyki Mikk! <3
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^ That's completely irrelevant, and should've been PM'd. o3o
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i named my dog after Tyki Mikk! <3
Thats random but okay... Try pm'ing me next time, as Kahara suggested. ^^;
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i meant the char from d-grayman buh okay o.o
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Wow, really? o3o;;
Thankfully, I've never seen one of them. It has been a while since I've been on dA's front page, say like... a year. But if it's enough to be a clearly visable problem, I believe dA should really inforce people with the ability to place the 'mature' warning on their artwork.. =p
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i meant the char from d-grayman buh okay o.o
I know what you meant. But try to stay on topic. Besides, I doubt theres another Tyki Mikk in anywhere besides DGM...
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How many posts have we spent discussing how off topic that post was now...?
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okay. didn't mean to piss anyone off o.o
this'll be my last post, i apologize.
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lol, it wasn't a big deal. I'm just amused that people, instead of taking the PM advice, chose to continue posting about the off topic post on the thread for a while.
So, back on topic.
I also find the 'casual pictures o friends at a party' to be pretty annoying. Put that on your Facebook, not DeviantArt.
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Thanks, Ham. & Yeah, again I haven't actually seen much of that, although when I do see it I guess it does bother me. I'd like to see more artistic.. things, on dA, I guess? Then again if you look around right, and do it right, I'm pretty sure those kind of photo's are avoidable. When you do see them, just ignore it, or, if you must, report it. / shrug
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Again, It doesnt bother me enough to report it. dA staff wont do crap about it. I just wanted opinions on the matter and to see if other people see stuff like this too.