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For the purpose of clarity this has absolutely nothing to do with Arokai this thread is purely regarding superfeesh/onowl
Anyone who knows me will know I don't get involved in drama. In fact since the days when I was running IT I've not been involved in the community as a whole at all. I choose the back seat because I've seen more than enough drama to last me a lifetime.
Now to the point...
Most of you are aware of the Arokai project and Superfeesh also now known as Onowl. Unfortunately I have reason to believe without doubt that not only have most of Super's accounts been taken over. But their trusted name is being used to spread false rumors.
Should the real super be out there watching this you know how to contact me and I will be happy to verify your identity and any legitimate accounts you still posses.
Now as a fan of super, a friend, or just as someone who respects the identity of others. I ask for your help. Quote this message to every blog, forum, messenger, email etc that lays claim to be owned by or related to "super".
If your looking for my evidence I will be keeping it to myself for the time being but take a look at all the new accounts popping up all of a sudden claiming to be Super. Have we ever known such an increase in activity from her? Look at the things she speaks about too. The comments barely resemble what she used to post about.
Oh and if this "super" tells you to go and speak to someone else to verify there identity. First think do you know and trust this person? How well do they know super really? Could it be possible they may actually be involved in the takeover of supers accounts?
Hope this clears things up for some who have been confused Information spread from supers accounts.
Raz
UPDATE 1800BST
Looks like "Super" wanted to contact me begging that they are the real super shame the message was sent via at least to other people. It was only a couple of weeks ago I was messaged directly I wonder what the big issue is if shes the real super?
It also seems http://feral-hearts.deviantart.com/ aren't supportive of my post It was removed after it was made into a journal post. I wonder what there issue is? Perhaps some of them are involved?
HEY LOOK A FAKE SUPER RESPONSE
http://onowl.tumblr.com/post/52136671652/regarding-someones-claim
Regarding Someone’s Claim
I’m saddened to think that someone would say that I am.. well, not I. His proof is likely that my IP changes. And I have already explained that to him (and the rest of my team). At one point I had halted talking to him. I had no desire to. Upon returning I had forgotten but it has recently returned to me and now more than ever I’ve no desire to talk to him.
It’s sad to think that increased activity and a louder voice makes a man think I’m a different person. Nevertheless I respect that he thinks that and will not bother him. It was the confidence my friends gave me that had me coming out of my shell; but as always it has proven bad. Petty Internet drama is NOT what I intended.
I will likely be going quiet now. Less updates, less everything from me. This is only because I want the drama to end. There’s no need for it. As for Raz’s claims that you should go to him for information — you guys can just as easily go to anyone on the Aro’kai team who has known me for years now. Marona for example. Rai or Buri.
I thank you all for your patience and support during this time. I will continue Aro’kai, but in the background, quietly. Please, please, please do not start drama over this!! <3
Now lets break this down.
His proof is likely that my IP changes
Not at all IP's change and are easy to proxy/vpn, I have questions you cant answer. Responses that are entirely out of character and a lack of cooperation when you realize I know someone who you don't know how to fake your way past.
Upon returning I had forgotten but it has recently returned to me and now more than ever I’ve no desire to talk to him.
You mean when your cover story collapsed?
It’s sad to think that increased activity and a louder voice makes a man think I’m a different person.
Perhaps that's because you are a different person and you pull up topics the real super wouldn't?
Nevertheless I respect that he thinks that and will not bother him.
Bother me by all means I'd love for you to prove yourself.
It was the confidence my friends gave me that had me coming out of my shell; but as always it has proven bad.
So at which point did you loose you confidence? You never seemed to lack it before?
I will likely be going quiet now. Less updates, less everything from me. This is only because I want the drama to end. There’s no need for it
Oops did you slip up and no longer want to play hard ball?
you guys can just as easily go to anyone on the Aro’kai team who has known me for years now. Marona for example. Rai or Buri.
Like I said in my earlier post pick someone you know you can trust and that you know for sure knew super not any name she pulls out of her hat.
I thank you all for your patience and support during this time. I will continue Aro’kai, but in the background, quietly. Please, please, please do not start drama over this!! <3
Again shes backing her way out of the situation quietly
UPDATE 5th June 0030BST
Seems some of you want to argue about the how legitimate it is for me to call up "Super" on how real she is. Firstly said super came to me I didn't go looking for her. The story she gave me unravelled rather quickly and she has since been hiding from me and avoiding contact.
For those of you who are going down the old DA story. No I'm not referring to just a DA account. I'm referring to email address's. Messenger ID's and other connected accounts.
No for those who say well this is Arokai business not FH business. When a fake super pops up and starts using Supers name to spread rumours regarding FH I believe FH has every right to point it out.
And I never asked anyone to believe she's fake I simply told you all to think before you make a decision and make sure the decision you make is from a source you trust.
UPDATE 6th June 2200BST
(http://i.imgur.com/GcNadLv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Pw2yO7M.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/QfAiedG.jpg)
Well take from that what you will.
Anyone can take screenshots of exiting code they've deleted bits from and make a few more screens as you hit the redo command.
I didn't ask her to install anything. Simply click the call button and click to screen share.
I have it from a reliable source that this is supers "offical" skype I left the ID on the top of the first screenshot
For the perpose of openness
I did remove her IP
And I did removed one comment as in a previous conversation I was told not to mention it and it made no difference to the outcome of the conversation anyway.
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I had no idea that was going on! I feel sorry for Super, and thx for posting this Raz ;)
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Stuff like this has gone on long enough. Thank's for the post Razmirz.
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Updated
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Thank you for posting this Raz. I may not fully understand the meaning of this post but I know full well that this is no laughing matter. Thanks for the news.
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I know there will be a lot of people saying this but, thank you so much for posting this. I was jus getting to know the real Super before all this started. It was very upsetting hearing what happened to her. Some people just... But anyway, I'm sure she will be very grateful. Good on ya Raz.
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Thanks for this Raz. I'll be sure to let others know.
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Thank you for the information Raz. This is getting really ridiculous and these individuals walking around claiming to be persons they are not really need to grow up & get a life. Why must there always be immature individuals ruining the integrity of a fun game & community? It will be nice to finally get to the bottom of all this nonsense.
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Will help spread this. Thanks Razfluff.
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Thanks for sharing this, Raz. I'll be sure to help spread this along with the others. It's about darn time people know that this is a serious situation.
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Thank you Razz, its good to be able to know this information, just to be sure.
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Oh dear. Thanks for posting this info Raz.
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I hate it when things about Aro'kai and Superfeesh float around in General. Gets me mad. I hate it when people say Super has stopped making Aro'kai. She still tries! Thank you Raz for posting this.
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Thanks for sharing this, Raz. It's sad that people are doing this.
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Hey look I got a response!
http://www.feral-heart.com/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=2&jfile=index.php&topic=35806.msg493006#msg493006 (http://www.feral-heart.com/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=2&jfile=index.php&topic=35806.msg493006#msg493006)
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Oh wow.
This just gets more and more ridiculous.
I'll be sure to share this, and thank you for posting this since you, as you said yourself, aren't a person that bothers with drama.
Cheers // Shallow
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Thank you, Raz. - Sad to see how pathetic all of this is.
Games should be fun, not filled with drama and despair.
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Thank you ;D
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Thank you so much for bringing this to our attention Raz,
It's sad that information like this is falsely being shuffled around, and I hope things do get better.
For sure ill do what I can to help ya out, ill help spread the word.
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Who is Super?
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This looks pretty serious.. thanks for posting this Razmirz.. I'll be sure to get the word out!
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Its utterly stupid when someone argues with you and when they realize they cant answer a question they give an answer that really didn't answer the question. Games should be fun and entertaining, not dramatic. They're just getting themselves in more trouble. I'll be sure to get the word out.
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I might get the word out if I decide to come out of my shell. I trust that this person is the false Super as you said, and I hate how people have to torture the poor loving super.
I think people should get a darn life instead of doing this stuff to games like this.
Aro'kai inspired a main character of mine, as he went through many edits.
The griffin model inspired Hugrf the griffin, an undrawn for now griffin/gryphon.
It's truly stupid, as Stargazer said when someone does this stuff.
I hope Soup comes back to her account, really. You know.
I wish there was less drama in a game like that now. >_< Ughh.
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Alas, for every other supporting fan out there, there's always at least someone who dreams of tearing it down just because they can. It's pathetic, really, because it's a hacker's way of sending themselves the message "I'm better than everyone." That is, if people take notice.
I agree with Stargazer, and frankly I agree with most of you. Hackers are just trigger-happy drama makers. And the best way to deal with them is to ignore them. I'll make sure to link back my feralheart buddies who are AK fans, so they know what's up and can prepare. Who knows when the next hacker attack will be.
Oh, and I also posted a comment (see link below) that I really put some thought into, but I won't post it here because I don't want to produce spam. It explains my opinion more deeply. I'd appreadicate it if you'd read it. :)
[(I'm EffulgenceOfTheNight))----> http://tinyurl.com/ltvt4nn (http://tinyurl.com/ltvt4nn)]
~Gamma
((Hope I didn't go off-topic in the last paragraph c:)
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Although I've never come across a fake Super claim, Thanks for the post, I'll know to be careful in the future... Jeez, I feel real bad for the real Super... This is ridiculous.
Oh, and I agree with Gamma here.. Trigger happy drama makers fits the description, and you all know Super, like in the fake post states, she wouldn't keep updates from us. Honestly, I can't see updates and screenshots causing drama like this, And it really is sad that someone, just to be 'cool', would tear down an awesome community like that. I mean; Really. Is it worth it? No.
As for Hugrf, exactly. Hackers may think this is funny, but in truth, they need to Get. A. Life. Soup reallllyyy wouldn't say any of that, barely. Nice acting, little hacker! Maybe you should take some classes before trying that on us again.
Hahah, anyway, this is really starting to get over dramatic. I can't even see a single reason in the world to hack or fake being Soup... Not one.
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Thank you for this information, Raz. I find this truely annoying and I feel very sorry for Super, this must be ridiculas for them.
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I never even knew this was happening, gosh I feel sorry for Super and how people just try and take her identity and falsely claim things.
Hackers really do need to calm the freak down and go outside and enjoy their own life, not someone else's that they choose to steal.
Thank you, Raz, for sharing this and helping to spread the awareness of the problem.
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Wow, this is horrible. If this is really true, I hope the individual responsible for this feels ashamed and realizes that they are already losing this game. I appreciate you informing our community.
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Honestly, I don't know what to believe.
In all truth I lost faith in Arokai's completion over a year ago,
so naturally I still don't believe it will be completed even if the real Super has (Or will,) return.
But I'm not gonna rant on about that that, and I generally prefer to stay out of these sort of things.
But I've seen a few instances on other communities that I was once a member of,
where staff accounts would be hacked all heck would break loose over if they are the genuine staff member anymore,
or someone who has enough knowledge or skills to hack into their account and mess around for some amusement.
Now, if this is the real Super who has really come back after so long, then my pardon to her and to her welcome back.
However, if this is just another hacker, then that means that this attention brought to the public is probably the attention they like. FeralHeart is a big community, and this could just end up as some big....ah, scandal seems too big of a word to use, but along that line.
Now I have noticed how the Arokai board has been revamped, and it seems as if "Onowl" has been generally active in the past month.
But I think personally for me, I think an explanation as to why Super was inactive for so long and left the Arokai board in the dark about the game's status would be nice.
We all have lives, jobs, and things to attend to, but would it be too much to ask for? (Unless it goes along the lines of personal matters, which I choose to respect and back off of.)
So there's my opinion. I'm not gonna be looking at this for too long, it could be the real Super, but for all we know we could just be giving the attention that this possible hacker wants.
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I have no idea what is going on..
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Thank you so much, Razzy! I feel really bad for Super, after all she MADE the map to Shadow Veldt for the Meurtrier Pride and I am a member of the Meurtrier Pride! This has gone way too long, this needs to stop!
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Sad situation. I'm not sure I should trust any side. But I trust in cryptography! Why most of people ignore it? :( An email with valid digital signature is a good proof of identity in most cases.
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Oh dear, I really do not like hackers. :I And Well I want bad memories just to fade away so really I just want everyone to Forget.
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Much needed, this will be helped spread by me of course and obviously others. No laughing matter what-so ever, it's wrong and unjust and particularly downright cruel. Thanks Raz.
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This is truly pathetic... I had heard Super's account on Deviantart, (which was typed exactly "superfeesh") had been hacked. I suggest looking at her journal. It's dark, nothing at ALL that she would post.
edit: wow
just wow
I should't've even said anything.
I redact my below statements of loving you guys and my offers of source code/models. Instead, what I have of the game shall rot in the deepest, gloomiest, darkest places of the internet, where foul, evil things creep and the light never reaches. It'll just become a distant memory, and fade away into the recesses of time, especially after my impersonator gives up due to nonexistent C++ programming skills.
okay. done being weirdly poetic. bye.
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please disregard the impersonator(s).
Sorry about my disappearance.
It's because I honestly have no time or desire to work on Arokai at all.
I know, I'm really sorry about this. As simple as they may seem, please understand my reasons. And I say them with a heavy heart.
But, before I leave, I just want to say I really appreciate all the support and all the messages and all the awesome words and just about everything through the years. I've met so many awesome artists and interesting people. Also, I'm just fascinated and honestly, somewhat intimidated by how many people were interested in this unusual project. And my most heartfelt apologies to my incredible team members, (I cannot apologize enough for this and I hope you can forgive me). Thank you.
Let's get to the point. I can't continue with this project any longer. As you hopefully concluded from my disappearance. Or seemingly, did not. That was really unclear, wasn't it? Sorry.
Honestly, I love you guys, but again, I really have no desire to come back or be involved with it, nor do I have time to. So... I'm not.
If there is someone out there who really, really, really wants to carry on with this project, shoot me a note with legitimate reasons why you want to. Also be able to legitimately prove that you have the skills to do so (C++ programming skills). If someone really brave wants to keep it going, then that's great. I still have the models/source code backed up.
Bye, and thank you for watching Arokai. It was a good time!
(Please, please, do not start any drama over this. Thank you)
Signing out.
Superfeesh.
EDIT: Proof it's me-
Some Arokai source code (actor constructor function): [link]
Arokai wolf model in blender: [link]
Arokai feline model in blender: [link]
Arokai deer model in blender: [link]
Notice Super's reply to Raz. She said:
I thank you all for your patience and support during this time. I will continue Aro’kai, but in the background, quietly. Please, please, please do not start drama over this!! <3
After pretty much beating Aro'kai to the dust with only words, she claims she'll, all of a sudden, start working on it again?
So, after all the commotion with people whining about Aro'kai being discontinued, I heard something about Super getting a new account on Deviantart. "Superfeeesh." Yes, three E's. People bothered her, asking if she was indeed, the "real Superfeesh." (If it was an imposter, I don't think they would easily admit they weren't real- They'd keep their little lie to themselves) This resulted in the account being deactivated. I would like to believe the real Superfeesh is out there, somewhere, clearing her name up.
Thank you Raz!~
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That journal's been old for months and proved bogus and to be a fake.
And honestly it's not that hard to nitpick at any sort of text post to get whatever kind of message you want out about a person in particular, in my opinion. It's like picking out carrots from a stew with chopsticks: You see one, you grab it, you pull it out on its own and then devour it.
Anything by themselves could mean anything, and with no other proof and the only other amount offered already proven bogus several times over I don't see a reason to believe any of this. Especially after being around both communities for a while.
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You disgust me.
All of you, going on for pages thanking Razmirz for this information that you don't even know is true or not. He could be just spouting bullshit to start drama and you're just agreeing with it because he's a staff member. Have your own say in this!
What proof do you exactly have? You're picking apart insignificant things like Super's writing style, which would obviously change over the years you two have [probably] been apart. People change, sometimes the change is more or less noticeable, but it happens. Shusuke had worded it pretty well above me.
And, because of that, why do the rest of you instantly take his word for it? Get your Aro'Kai info from Aro'Kai, not FeralHeart of all places. It's horrible how you all think this place is a good source for information about a game that they are not a part of.
If you have doubts about Super's identity, I feel like a better way to find things out is to contact her directly, not start things by making an entire thread and sharing this with hundreds of people who really don't need to know.
The reason Super/the other staff are "hiding" or something is because of people like you spreading things like this around, as far as I know. I know I would probably do the same, and maybe even some of you would too.
I know this all sounds so rude, my apologies, but there's so much drama revolving around Aro'Kai and Super's identity. I know this post doesn't even need to be made, it might even annoy my friends and even the A'K staff if they read it, but I'm going to anyways because I don't want to just sit back and watch all of this go on.
Even if you're trying to do justice for the "real" Super, all you're doing is causing unnecessary drama and spreading even more rumors about A'K, more than they already have.
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Kudos for Luzxia.
And really, all in all I don't like how this is going. We have a lot of young members on this site, and with how the general reaction is I'd say this is just going to be another incident to add to the list, on both FeralHeart and Arokai.
It is bringing this into a big community, and really with some of the issues we already have had it just...
I won't say anymore about the matter. I think though, that this should be locked until we have some further information.
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Y'all need to stop drinking the FH Kool-Aid and think for yourselves for once. FH IS NOT THE AUTHORITY ON AK MATTERS; WE, THE AK STAFF, ARE. If you have a question, ask us, not someone who knows nothing of our affairs [AKA the entire FH staff team, including Raz]. Razmirz is certainly not an omnipotent god just because he's FH staff, and is, in fact, quite ignorant in this matter. Soup's old account was hacked A VERY LONG TIME AGO, and we've had that matter cleared up an equally long time ago. Her IP is dynamic because she's scared of it happening again and has purchased a proxy to protect herself. A person's writing style inevitably changes as they age and grow as a person. The hacker of the old account also could not prove anything to us and actually became angry and non-compliant when we questioned them too deeply for their liking, while our Soup, the genuine Soup, has actually been getting work done on staff demo materials! Sorry, Raz, but you're late to the party, and your passive-aggressive, logically fallacious "questioning" is far from conclusive. Go find something original to say if you're gonna say anything at all... in fact, that goes for all of you.
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Meh, I gave up on Arokai and "Super" when they abandoned deviantArt and wrote off part of the community (myself included), all the while being total jerks about it. I honestly dont care if this 'new super' is fake or not. IMO the chances of Arokai actually coming to fruition are low, and even then I dont really want to be a part of it considering the huge ego and lack of care for her fans "super" has.
I honestly hope she is a fake, because it would be extremely entertaining seeing the fallout of that reveal. ::)
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Hey look another update for those who want to argue
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Hmm...... It'll be interesting to see what happens next. Only time will tell...
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I'm not concerned with any update you have. I don't see a reason for this sort of thing to ever crop up here or anywhere.
It's not a news announcement much, anyway. What would this have to do with FH? Nothing at all, really.
It really isn't a concern to anyone on here :/ And it certainly isn't something that would warrant a flashy announcement like this. It's an opinion about something and that's it. Nothing different about it by making it an announcement or anything.
Because it's just an opinion under an "Update" or "News" label, which is no different than a goofy title on a tumblr blog text post. xD
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I'm not concerned with any update you have. I don't see a reason for this sort of thing to ever crop up here or anywhere.
It's not a news announcement much, anyway. What would this have to do with FH? Nothing at all, really.
It really isn't a concern to anyone on here :/ And it certainly isn't something that would warrant a flashy announcement like this. It's an opinion about something and that's it. Nothing different about it by making it an announcement or anything.
Because it's just an opinion under an "Update" or "News" label, which is no different than a goofy title on a tumblr blog text post. xD
Sorry but did you even read the update? He said why it had to do with FH there :/
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It's not FH's business because if it was an actual concern [or at least were it me with the concern] it'd be much easier and less of a mess if they kept it private. Not everyone is interested in Aro'Kai here and really, it's really just dumb to announce an issue publicly like this.
Announcing something like this publically = community to go to heck on both sides + not read between the lines and possibly view this as an "announcement" of what is fact instead of opinion, thus going back to my whole "it's just an opinion with an announcement tag on it".
If this was something that was a generous concern, then why go about it publicly? Doing this sort of thing not only stresses out an entire staff as well as a community. This drama has already been up and it's been resolved, and it's really old and pointless to bring it up again.
I don't know about anyone out there, but I know that I would go to FH about this privately were the situation flopped over and suspicion put onto your end. Just saying. It's inconsiderate of the rest of Aro'Kai's staff and community to bring it up publicly, as it stressing them and the community out unnecessarily.
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So let me get this straight. Someone is pretending to be some person named Super? And why does that matter to FH? What did she/he do?
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Yo Raz. I wish Splinter was still alive so he could laugh with me that you're at it again.
No, folks, this is certainly not the first time he has defamed someone publically. I am one of the oldest members of IT and FH, I have seen every part of this community backwards and forwards.
You want to hear some information? Back when Stacey ran the old forums Raz hacked the forum and deleted posts and did general messing about with it. He'll probably even admit it, he was proud of it. (everyone was a bit upset at Stacey at the time)
So what Mar? What's your point? How do we know that's even true?
Well, my children, how do you know my information is more valid then his? I can slander any of your names, and if I did it on my Aro'Kai forum everyone there would believe whatever it was I told them about you. Unfortunately, though, my information is true. Any old member would remember at the mention as it was one of the biggest fall outs in the history of IT.
For someone who doesn't like causing drama...well it doesn't seem to be the case now does it, Raz?
My names Marona, Mar, etc. I've known Super since 2008. I'm one of her best online friends, I know why she left and I can say with confidence it was a legit, justified reason. If none of you believe me, that's fine, you don't have to participate in my forum updates at all if that's how you feel. Honestly you won't hurt my feelings. HOWEVER. What will hurt my feelings, be this the real super now or not is the drama this is causing. I will not endorse Feral Heart ever again, nor will I have kind thoughts towards this community if posts like this are welcome and abided by. ANY sort of public name shaming, even to someone we don't know is ridiculous! Saying she's fake is one thing, posting everything she says publically and nitpicking is another.
I say shame on you, Raz. Shame on you for being a role model and displaying this kind of behavior. After all these years I expected better then this. You should be an aged and experienced admin.
I am the holder of AroKai now and forever. (super is merely my coder) Until this message is removed AroKai will have nothing to do with Feral Heart. (excluding Kov as he has nothing to do with FH anymore)
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Yo Raz. I wish Splinter was still alive so he could laugh with me that you're at it again.
No, folks, this is certainly not the first time he has defamed someone publically. I am one of the oldest members of IT and FH, I have seen every part of this community backwards and forwards.
You want to hear some information? Back when Stacey ran the old forums Raz hacked the forum and deleted posts and did general messing about with it. He'll probably even admit it, he was proud of it. (everyone was a bit upset at Stacey at the time)
So what Mar? What's your point? How do we know that's even true?
Well, my children, how do you know my information is more valid then his? I can slander any of your names, and if I did it on my Aro'Kai forum everyone there would believe whatever it was I told them about you. Unfortunately, though, my information is true. Any old member would remember at the mention as it was one of the biggest fall outs in the history of IT.
For someone who doesn't like causing drama...well it doesn't seem to be the case now does it, Raz?
My names Marona, Mar, etc. I've known Super since 2008. I'm one of her best online friends, I know why she left and I can say with confidence it was a legit, justified reason. If none of you believe me, that's fine, you don't have to participate in my forum updates at all if that's how you feel. Honestly you won't hurt my feelings. HOWEVER. What will hurt my feelings, be this the real super now or not is the drama this is causing. I will not endorse Feral Heart ever again, nor will I have kind thoughts towards this community if posts like this are welcome and abided by. ANY sort of public name shaming, even to someone we don't know is ridiculous! Saying she's fake is one thing, posting everything she says publically and nitpicking is another.
I say shame on you, Raz. Shame on you for being a role model and displaying this kind of behavior. After all these years I expected better then this. You should be an aged and experienced admin.
I am the holder of AroKai now and forever. (super is merely my coder) Until this message is removed AroKai will have nothing to do with Feral Heart. (excluding Kov as he has nothing to do with FH anymore)
While I respect the fact that you are defending an old friend, I will point out that Raz would not "stir things up" like this without good reason.
And, more to the point, he didn't make this just to say that Superfeesh is fake.
No, he pointed out that he has suspicions that someone is using accounts as her name, slandering her "good name" (as Raz said) and, of course, spreading rumors about FeralHeart. That, Marona, is where an aged and experienced admin would come in and make sure that the game he helps take care of is in good hands. This is not an attack on Super, it made to assure that potentially harmful rumors about our community are put to an end by reminding our userbase to be care who they're listening to.
After all, what if there are users out there pretending to be Super?
Then what?
Through that, Raz may turn a few people away from believing those individuals. For those that truly know Super, they will know it's her, and believe those words alone. And, as he'd said, Super can contact Raz by herself to affirm what is truly her, and what is not.
If you choose not to endorse FeralHeart anymore, then so be it. However, please make sure you're really reading into our intentions before you assume we're trying to attack you all personally.
But, I digress.
Thank you for this update, Raz. It's a shame to think some individuals might be attacking FH and other communities using someone else's name, but thank you for pointing this out to us. This has been going on for too long.
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No. Raz knows who I am. He knows I'm admin of AroKai. I alone have kept it alive all these years. A true admin would know where his resources lie and would of contacted me to see if I had investigated this. BEFORE he posts a giant post nitpicking things that are quite seriously insignificant.
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I'll be sure to get the word out too, thanks for posting.
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What a shame!
We've taken this matter and turned it against one another. I am sincerely sick of how this is being handled.
I am ashamed of myself and of this issue.
As an IT veteran, and someone who has experienced things like this on several other forums, the way this was announced and the way is just making us bitter.
I know what happens as a result. It scars the community.
I am disgusted by this and ashamed of myself and of this.
Please, can't we handle this in a more peaceful manner?
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Aww poor super. Shame on the people saying they are her.
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Unfortunately I am quite the wolverine when it comes to my friends being harassed. Or when I see someone being wronged in general. Public shaming really irks me.
Perhaps I'm coming across as harsh, overall I'm just stern right now. It'll take a lot more then this to make me mad. No one would like me angry.
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Unfortunately I am quite the wolverine when it comes to my friends being harassed. Or when I see someone being wronged in general. Public shaming really irks me.
Perhaps I'm coming across as harsh, overall I'm just stern right now. It'll take a lot more then this to make me mad. No one would like me angry.
Woah slow your roll I'm not trying to make you mad! Why would I? But not to be rude but um why should we believe you your just as unknown to me as Raz so for now I'm going what I agree with. Plus Raz gave more believable info and plus you didn't even really shed any light on this saying you "know Super" who says you do? Who can back you up on that?
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Uhm...hun I wasn't really talking to you. LOL
As for your questions: I own AroKai??? Lmao. I administrate the whole thing.
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Oh hehe sorry
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All I am trying to say is that we all need a moment to clear our heads.
Honestly, the way this was brought up was very immature and asking a large group, which consists of a lot of young members, is not the way to go.
Not only that, but these arguments between each other in general are just as bad. Even when we try not too, these things inevitably create unnecessary drama.
From how it's been going up to this point, it's just going to be a bitter stalemate.
It's a situation that was presented incorrectly and responded to incorrectly, on both sides. It should be handled privately instead.
I've had my say, and I will back out unless this gets worse.
I just hope it ends soon.
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Why on earth would you be using a 3DS to forum browse? LOL
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I have a limited amount of time to use a computer, since I'm still wrapping up school.
I have to get off at 10:00..
..It's a curse, I swear...
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So what you're saying is we need to tone it down?
Oh trust me, miss. I can comply
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Oh lord-
Before I back out and return to topic..
That just made my night
*snicker*
OKAY BACK TO TOPIC.
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Technically that last will smith image was on topic. I could actually respond to every post in will smith pictures and still be on topic.
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And, more to the point, he didn't make this just to say that Superfeesh is fake.
No, he pointed out that he has suspicions that someone is using accounts as her name, slandering her "good name" (as Raz said) and, of course, spreading rumors about FeralHeart. That, Marona, is where an aged and experienced admin would come in and make sure that the game he helps take care of is in good hands. This is not an attack on Super, it made to assure that potentially harmful rumors about our community are put to an end by reminding our userbase to be care who they're listening to.
After all, what if there are users out there pretending to be Super?
Thank You ...
Finally someone who knows how to read and interpret what Raz is saying with this message correctly.
Now I didn't care to get involved but now I'm getting involved because certain people here are just making a mess of themselves and everything these two games & communities stand for. Raz was simply pointing out the fact that there are alot of fake Superfeeshs out there especially within these recent months. Most of us have already seen them spreading false things and slandering Feesh's & Arokai's name. No where did I see Raz bashing the real Superfeesh so all you Arokai staff or people claiming to be the official Arokai staff should just cool yourselves off. We're not here to hurt your little pal. Truth is Raz was bound to address the issue at some point especially since many of these "Superfeesh" individuals have claimed things about Feral Heart and its source code etc. Feral Heart and its community got involved in Arokai matters when Arokai staff SuperFeesh whether its her real account or not brought FH into "her" discussions/rumor posts all through the interwebs. Raz, like most of us, has seen Superfeesh's, Arokai's & Feral Heart's name being dragged around and dirtied all in the same context so now he is clearing up things with the FH community. Most of the Feral Heart community are Arokai fans and deserve to know what's going on and Raz took the right steps in this post. Even if you don't like it he's being honest enough and giving us all the information for us to interpret for ourselves.
This post which should have prevented any more hostility & confusion between the two communities that trolls have caused has now just flipped back to negative thanks to many of you. Why? I don't know... Maybe because most of you are drama queens and like to be the star of a show that just isn't here. Many of you want to make some ridiculous scene of this... I don't know and really I don't care. Truth is it should be more about the game and less about the people behind it. Arokai has become more about hackers & trolls and less about the animals, fun, make believe, and hard work it should represent. Why? Because of people fueling and spitting out nonsense like what you're all doing here.
Every hostile individual here really needs to sit back for a moment, shut up, reread this, and remember the big reason why we fuss over these things so much in the first place... no matter what our view is we are all just fans of two wonderful games and communities trying to get a better understanding of the people and things behind them. The bottom line here is these are games & games and their communities sole purpose is to bring people together and to have fun. Not tear them apart because you guys can't be mature, put your ego aside, and work together. That's why the old Impressive Title died in the first place. Because so many of you couldn't control your personal emotions enough to think of the common good for the entire community. All the trolls and hackers out there prey on stupidity like this. Two perfectly wonderful communities with awesome staff teams that can't just work together and look out for each other.
Now go ahead and bend my words as much as you all like but truth of the matter is you all need to step back and reconsider your priorities here. Is all this arguing for the good of the games & communities or just proof that you all are selfish & petty and can't put aside your personal problems with each other etc?
All of you need to get your acts together.
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My little pal? Excuse me are you being flippant with me?
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Perhaps I need to be more clear as it appears you have misunderstood /me/ young miss. The user on my forum is and always has been the 'real super' *real slim shady plays in the background*
Your point of keeping an eye out for hackers? I can take care of that myself. I don't post about hackers on this forum on the AroKai forum. Nor will I. It doesn't pertain to my community. As this doesn't pertain to Feral Heart.
NOT ONLY THAT. But if people are looking to Raz and this forum IN GENERAL for AroKai updates because they are fans then...wow are they looking at the wrong place. Hehe
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*sigh*
All this is embarrassing me..
I really dont apreciate this.
Cant there be a magical bone that makes all this clear up and end?
There is already enough drama arround the world.
I got involved by this yesterday and it stressed me out getting messages from all sides putting me in the middle of the fight lines.
Really.. i am too tired for stuff like this. This is unneedet.
People do change with time. One day they are what you like, the other day they are not.
There is stuff that can be talked about kind and nice and then there is stuff that needs to be talked over in serious businuess..
I am sure Raz has his reasons and is just aware that he might met someone who he thinks is not the one he remembers. So i can understand that this is his way of trying to clear up and in one way to protect the one he knows.
And by the way... the feral-hearts group is involved? Well.. thank you... since i am next to nala in the lead, what does this light spot me in? All this is really something that wears me out psychically and stresses me even physically.
Couldnt that all have ben sed in a low nice tone?
"Super is that realy you? You act like i dont know you, you have changed?" <- I think this would have ben a more politely reaction. And not the hammer to the head procedure.. this is a kindergarden.
I am not willed to further talk about this with anyone. I only wish it to end and clear this in private.
Wasnt even sure if i should have posted anything... so whoever reads this, please dont come back at me with tis topic. Its not my businuess, i cant help with that, i have stated my opinion there and its not changeable. (By the way have i met people along my way who have changed with the years.. thats normal).
Just.. again, i think this can just clear up if these two get together for a talk, even if it is not apreciated by one of them. I can tell you one thing, it wont end if they wont get to talk together....
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What I don't understand is why anybody's particularly upset or bothered by this besides those personally invested in the matter. This is a matter of awareness, not crap-slinging, and as such it really should be kept to that. Whether Super is the real Super or not, the gist is, you should all take care in a sense of caution--and leave it to those involved to sort the matter out.
Good day, gentlemen and ladies.
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Your point of keeping an eye out for hackers? I can take care of that myself.
So do it. Make it a priority that you spend as much time as you are responding to us here to address the hackers in your community. That way it doesn't have to become FH's responcibilty because your uninformed and frustrated fans come here looking for answers that your community doesn't provide. Take care of your issues so they don't bubble over and start dripping off into our community because your fake or real Superfeeshs are saying things about FH and its community.
NOT ONLY THAT. But if people are looking to Raz and this forum IN GENERAL for AroKai updates because they are fans then...wow are they looking at the wrong place. Hehe
Heheh. Hilarious how you all left your fandom wondering what was going on with the Arokai game and staff for months on end. As was said above maybe you guys should spend more time investing effort into your community so that they aren't searching for answers here. Maybe there would be alot less confusion and desperate people hacking in the first place if you all did us that favor. Don't you think? Disappearing months on end isn't any nicer. I myself used and still use your official forum and there's barely any effort done to address these issues as much as FH does.
Honestly I find it funny how you don't see the big picture ever and how you people continue to nit pick the minuscule things and not address the bigger statement I made above. You proved my point that the only thing you guys focus and care about is the petty things, just yourselves, and your little friends. If that's not the case then explain to me where you just pulled these responses from? You didn't address anything I said which pertains to the communities and working together as a whole. You choose to just sputter out more nonsense and dance around my point.
Your sarcasm doesn't amuse me. Give us a mature response. I think we all deserve that little bit from you. If you can take care of your Arokai hackers then clean up this muck before it gets to our community and to the point where we have to address it like this. If you have all the answers then it's time you start acting upon them.
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Please don't argue. It's immature.
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Your point of keeping an eye out for hackers? I can take care of that myself.
So do it. Make it a priority that you spend as much time as you are responding to us here to address the hackers in your community. That way it doesn't have to become FH's responcibilty because your uninformed and frustrated fans come here looking for answers that your community doesn't provide. Take care of your issues so they don't bubble over and start dripping off into our community because your fake or real Superfeeshs are saying things about FH and its community.
NOT ONLY THAT. But if people are looking to Raz and this forum IN GENERAL for AroKai updates because they are fans then...wow are they looking at the wrong place. Hehe
Heheh. Hilarious how you all left your fandom wondering what was going on with the Arokai game and staff for months on end. As was said above maybe you guys should spend more time investing effort into your community so that they aren't searching for answers here. Maybe there would be alot less confusion and desperate people hacking in the first place if you all did us that favor. Don't you think? Disappearing months on end isn't any nicer. I myself used and still use your official forum and there's barely any effort done to address these issues as much as FH does.
Honestly I find it funny how you don't see the big picture ever and how you people continue to nit pick the minuscule things and not address the bigger statement I made above. You proved my point that the only thing you guys focus and care about is the petty things, just yourselves, and your little friends. If that's not the case then explain to me where you just pulled these responses from? You didn't address anything I said which pertains to the communities and working together as a whole. You choose to just sputter out more nonsense and dance around my point.
Your sarcasm doesn't amuse me. Give us a mature response. I think we all deserve that little bit from you. If you can take care of your Arokai hackers then clean up this muck before it gets to our community and to the point where we have to address it like this. If you have all the answers then it's time you start acting upon them.
Thank you Lordsurahaga exactly. Aro'kai if you don't like Raz telling about your issues DEAL WITH THEM!
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Dude I just posted an entire announcement about a hacker problem.
Seriously have you ever even been on my forum?
Have you read my posts? I have said already she is not a hacker. I have complete admin access and have confirmed her identity. REGARDLESS. I wasn't even addressing you. I don't owe anyone anything. I mean you're coming at me with some sudden accusations. This thread isn't even ABOUT me. Nor had the topic swerved TOWARDS me until you threw stuff in my direction. My sarcasm? I'm just having fun because otherwise this is a pretty boring conversation while I simply wait for Raz' attention.
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I don't have to deal with anything I don't want to. c:
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T-T Orly? You don't deal with things you don't want to? My apologies for being rude and using meh 'tude but I thought you were Admin on Aro'kai? That confuses me if you don't fix things you don't want to then to me that would make me despise the Aro'kai forums.
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*pulls Howls back before she gets into a fist fight.* This argument is getting ridiculous. If you have hackers on Aro'kai Marona deal with them. Ban them but don't just make a statement. I am a member of Aro'kai and Marona this is making you look childish arguing about things instead of dealing with them. And howls...please would you sush your looking like a child too.
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I repeat: I do. I am asking Raz to let me do so on my own forum and not slander my coder, Super. The words he's been using are her words.
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So do it. Make it a priority that you spend as much time as you are responding to us here to address the hackers in your community. That way it doesn't have to become FH's responcibilty because your uninformed and frustrated fans come here looking for answers that your community doesn't provide. Take care of your issues so they don't bubble over and start dripping off into our community because your fake or real Superfeeshs are saying things about FH and its community.
Hey, hi. Hello! Catbird here, come to clear some shit up. Yeah, who said it was /ever/ FH's responsibility to do anything? Y'all got your game, fine and cool, we got ours. Mar over here (in fact the entire staff team) spends just as much time keeping the community safe and hacker free as we do responding to your bitchy little comments. It's not our fault Raz posted this. We have nothing to do with his actions or any of that sort. So don't you go saying she's not doing her job, because she is one of the hardest working people I know.
Heheh. Hilarious how you all left your fandom wondering what was going on with the Arokai game and staff for months on end. As was said above maybe you guys should spend more time investing effort into your community so that they aren't searching for answers here. Maybe there would be alot less confusion and desperate people hacking in the first place if you all did us that favor. Don't you think? Disappearing months on end isn't any nicer. I myself used and still use your official forum and there's barely any effort done to address these issues as much as FH does.
Whoa, hold up romeo. What did I just say? Super's actions are her own, and while she left yes that's done and over with, so don't go dragging old shit in here. This is NOT about what happened then. The team worked their best to keep the community active and happy even while Super was gone, so you have /nothing/ on that point. We address issues as best we can and avoid repeat topics, but you must have the wrong forum, if you think issues aren't being addressed. maybe you should log on and look a little harder.
Honestly I find it funny how you don't see the big picture ever and how you people continue to nit pick the minuscule things and not address the bigger statement I made above. You proved my point that the only thing you guys focus and care about is the petty things, just yourselves, and your little friends. If that's not the case then explain to me where you just pulled these responses from? You didn't address anything I said which pertains to the communities and working together as a whole. You choose to just sputter out more nonsense and dance around my point.
You're just full of sass aren't you? I'll nitpick all I want, because you made the statement, yo. We. have. a. community. Call that petty? alright cool, whatever floats your boat. Our community works together as a whole just fine thank you very much. We listen, and while much of it is behind the scenes, no one is in the dark entirely about what's going on. If you cared, you'd focus on having fun with your buddies rather than jab stab at the staff team and how "horrible" we are.
Your sarcasm doesn't amuse me. Give us a mature response. I think we all deserve that little bit from you. If you can take care of your Arokai hackers then clean up this muck before it gets to our community and to the point where we have to address it like this. If you have all the answers then it's time you start acting upon them.
Ha. HAHA. And your lack of clever wit doesn't amuse /me/. You sass us, we sass back, simple as that.
I see repeat points! Oh yes! We did NOT drag this over here, get that through your thick skull. Jeebus. how many times must it be said? What raz did was of his own volition, and he chose to post this on the FH forum, thus involving the FH community. You wanna row on this? go yell at him. Yo, last time I checked it was already like that, so I wave goodbye to your petty wit and obvious ignorance on the deeper parts of this subject.
The staff IS working to fix this, and has been since this thread surfaced. In case you hadn't realized, there's a lot of collateral damage going on here. We're working to prevent that, pardon if as human beings we're tired of your collective bullshit.
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*major face paw* Your bending my words I did not say you don't do anything I merely implied you need to stop all this foolish arguing and deal with your own site and leave FH to our Admins. Your only making you and your site look worse by arguing like this. This is merely a topic to warn OUR users that a fake superfeesh is lying and spreading rumors about our site. No need to get bent out of shape over this Marona my fuzzy buddy
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Read Catty's post. Raz involved us when he slandered our user.
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Have you read my posts? I have said already she is not a hacker.
I thought the problem is that "old Super" used to behave like a real hacker, and "new Super" acts just like some script-kiddie.
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-_- yes because he was WARNING OUR USERS about the rumors!!! Now I leave your idiotic petty argument Marona!
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woah dude. calm yoself. Youre tossing around a lotta hostility. I wasn't even really involving you much just explaining stuff do you. I'm just gonna let you simmer down over there.
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Okay now... i really have enough.
Wouldnt the Arokai team, as always, have asap told everyone when there would have ben a fake person arround claiming to be someone of their staff? Yes, they would have done asap.
I still think that this is hilarious and embarrassing (to me) what happens here.
It is not FHs responsibility to clear up Arokais matter, nor is it Arokais staffs responsibility to clear up FHs matters.
I wont be able to do anything against all this but to close the thread. Since its useless to keep it open.
Arokais staff tries to clear up but as i SADLY have to say as a part of FHs Staff, FH is not listening. I am ashamed!
Now i cant proofe if this Marona is really Marona, i cant proof is Sup is fake or not. Only Sup can do that and i do understand, if that is really her, that she doesnt want to have the need to do that.
A personal issue/matter has absoluetly nothing to do here and i am already very sorry for everyone who is involved and upset.
Please keep FH things to FH only and Arokai to Arokai things too.
If you see a reason, a good reason, to make this open again, you can contact me. But for now thats just rotating in circles and this matter should not be talked about in public.
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This got reopened since i got message from someone who would like to stay hidden. Please dont PM me about who it was or what matter that one gave me.
I just hope this gets sorted out without FH users going against Ak staff again... stay mature and dont blame others for their work just because you dont like how they do it..
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Tigg, is completely right in my opinion. Yes, Im thrilled about Arokai, and cant wait to try it out, but they should keep their problems with them. FH has got nothing to do with the game, and it is none of our responsibility. Its nice to help them if things are going wrong, but thats only if you can, but FH is no place to be discussing about that really, if you do want to discuss it, go to the Arokai forums, simple as!
Im just gonna leave this here, before I go on any longer.
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I agree with Tigg too. They should keep their problems too theirselves. I does no good dragging others into the dispute.
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This is pointless and people are just going to keep insulting each other. I never thought I would ever see such a forum on FH. I agree that Raz should have warned us. He never said that she was a fake, he just said she may be and be careful. By dragging out this argument you have proven yourself as a childish fool, Marona. If you got a problem with it why don't you tell them in their mail instead of bringing it out for everyone else to see.
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This is quite valuable information over here. It would take a while to find something like this on the internet. Maybe once this is around for a few more people will know, and maybe this problem will start fading away. :/
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Not completely understanding this but I feel real bad for the real Super. I haven't heard of this before so I'm not sure what's going on. I'll stay on the lookout for a rumor spreading users who claim to be Super. I'm sure most will, too. I'm not familiar with these teams either.
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I. Uhm. Well. No comment. I think things have gone a little too far in some of these arguments.
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Just a note to those saying Arokai this Arokai that. I have no clue what Arokai has to do with anything I certainly never mentioned Arokai other that in the context of explaining who Super is. This is purely about Supers identity and not questioning any of her projects. I've never visited that AK forums and nore do I intend to.
As for your comments on my history Marona as I recall it no threads were deleted only locked and you were one of the instigators rallying round to cause the issues.
Based on that history and not knowing much more about you other than that I have no real reason to trust your word.
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Thanks for keeping us updated.
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Yes thanks for keeping us updated Raz
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This really is getting out of hand. It's sad to think that people would even want or attempt to do this stuff. Poor Super, being copied non-stop like this. Thank you for posting this, Raz. I will spread this as much as I can.
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Almost all of you need to pull your heads out of your asses already, you idiots.
It's painful to see how you all agree to spread this bullshit around that could be, and probably is 100% false. You just simply follow after Raz, and your only reason is that he's a staff member. I'll have you know, being staff doesn't automatically make it so that anything you say is a fact. *gasp*
It's hilarious how defensive you get when someone doesn't kiss your ass or agree with you or thank you for this [likely] false information.
Hey, Razmirz what was the point in making this thread again? You say you don't like drama, but you should be expecting it of all things if you make a thread like this. It's one thing to legitimately think Super is a fraud, but it's completely different when you make an entire thread about it on a forum like this and stir up really unnecessary drama. There is NO POINT. It's even worse that you want people to spread this around.
Even if you're trying to do a favor for the "real" Super, all you're doing is making this harder for everyone. You're stressing everyone on A'K staff team out. You're stressing Super out, even if you think she's fake.
FeralHeart has NOTHING to do with Aro'Kai, its staff, and its owner(s). Please, screw off, and keep your suspicions to yourself.
Even if this Super is actually fake somehow, that isn't your responsibility or FeralHearts business. What happens pertaining to AK or its members, STAYS THAT WAY.
And, Raz, you don't even have any valid arguments. You're picking at Super's writing style; doing that allows you to get whatever impression you wish for.
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Obviously, if you're going to accuse a staff member of Aro'Kai being a fraud, of course the other staff are going to get involved. If I accused you of being a fake in public, the FH staff team would be on my ass in a second, wouldn't they? It's like running into a church, screaming "I hate Christians," and then saying "Oh, I wasn't trying to start anything, I never asked for anything," when they get angry.
And I'm not trying to make anyone "side with me". Also, when I said being staff doesn't always make you right, it goes for both you and AK staff. No one is excluded.
I don't know why you can't take your own advice on having a quick convo with Super in private instead of making a thread about it on a website like THIS.
Why does the entire community need to know? Keep it to yourself/the FH staff team, it'd be better for everyone, even if you didn't intend to cause all of this drama.
Even if she did try and have a conversation, you'd accuse her of being fake anyway, it seems.
Come on, Raz. You're better than that.
Also, what do you mean a "fake super spreading rumors about FH"? It doesn't seem like you've said anymore about that except that one line in your first post. I'm just curious, even though it sounds kinda snippy.
Even though all of this sounds really rude, I know it is, I honestly can't stand anymore false information being spread about AK. First they get hacked, then Super is impersonated, and people still spread around the whole "AK is never coming out thing". Isn't there enough?
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Obviously, if you're going to accuse a staff member of Aro'Kai being a fraud, of course the other staff are going to get involved. If I accused you of being a fake in public, the FH staff team would be on my ass in a second, wouldn't they?
And I'm not trying to make anyone "side with me". Also, when I said being staff doesn't always make you right, it goes for both you and AK staff. No one is excluded.
I don't know why you can't take your own advice on having a quick convo with Super in private instead of making a thread about it on a website like THIS.
Why does the entire community need to know? Keep it to yourself/the FH staff team, it'd be better for everyone, even if you didn't intend to cause all of this drama.
Even if she did try and have a conversation, you'd accuse her of being fake anyway, it seems.
Come on, Raz. You're better than that.
Also, what do you mean a "fake super spreading rumors about FH"? It doesn't seem like you've said anymore about that except that one line in your first post. I'm just curious, even though it sounds kinda snippy.
Even though all of this sounds really rude, I know it is, I honestly can't stand anymore false information being spread about AK. First they get hacked, then Super is impersonated, and people still spread around the whole "AK is never coming out thing". Isn't there enough?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you must not understand what Raz is saying or doing. He wasn't trying to tell the public super is fake he was telling our community that a possibly fake super was making rumors about our site. Why don't you turn your brain on so you can comprehend that.
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Did you even read my post?
And, I wasn't even talking to you. I was asking Razmirz the questions, so back off, please. Don't even try to imply that I'm stupid or that I need to "turn on my brain" when YOU don't even know what we're talking about.
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-_- Hey guess what? Your the one freaking out and this has nothing to do with AK everyone started making it like that cause of Marona. Perhaps you should back off deary your saying things that have nothing to do with this thread and bagging on FH because of that Marona character who ended up getting everyone to fuss about AK
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People go around spreading rumors all the time. Why would one of them warrant an announcement such as this?
As I said, this is absolutely dumb.
Who says they are rumors? They could have been an opinion for all we know.
Do we have proof of this so called fake super spreading rumors?
Are there links?
Is there a web page?
No. No there isn't. Just a nitpicked text post from the REAL Super's TUMBLR PAGE And a handful of words.
Once again. This is really stupid and if it was a generous concern, it should have been kept private.
People spread rumors about websites all the time. The mature thing to do is ignore it. I see people down-talking FH ALL THE TIME, and no one ever cared about any of them until Super's name was slapped on it.
So I don't know what's got your panties in a bunch.
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Matryo.. I have no clue what you're trying to start here, but it's getting annoying. Nobody was talking to you, so you shouldn't be replying to my posts.
When I said back off, I meant leave ME alone because you have no clue what I'm talking about. None of this concerns you, so please, stop. You're making this harder on yourself, that's not good.
In agreement with Shusuke, that's what I'm mostly curious about. Raz, you say you're doing this because "a fake super spread rumors about FH", but you haven't said anything about it except that one statement.
Do you have any proof of that?
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Yes exactly. But Matryo also has a point. Not to irk anyone but she is correct too on a level I'm afraid to say almost no one has comprehended yet. She has a true point this thread did not even begin to be about AK until Marona began saying about it. Now not to get everyone to turn on myself but it is entirely true that Marona started this whole AK argument over Super.
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Still, why does a "fake super" that we don't even have legit screenshots or links to get any sort of attention about spreading rumors of FH over any average joe that could trashtalk it convincingly enough anywhere else?
As I said, it's really dumb.
There's no proof of a fake Super anywhere and it's just getting anyone ruffled up over it. Since there ISN'T any proof of there being a "fake" Feesh and since the only "evidence" is from the REAL Superfeesh's Tumblr, it's not surprising that people from AK would oh...I don't know...get defensive over it.
Whether this is related to Aro'Kai or not, it's still related to Super. And AK staff care about Super as much as a person looking out for her name would. It causes unnecessary stress on the staff because of it.
As I said, if this was a real, PRESSING issue it would be best dealt with privately and more thoroughly investigated. Since there doesn't seem to be any proof of a fake super anywhere, then I really don't see a point in this thread existing at all.
It's causing unnecessary stress to those on AK as a form of collateral because an impersonator issue had already been taken care of months before, and it's just stressing everyone else out because of their stress and the obvious fact that if the first post is "misinterpreted" then the message obviously wasn't written clear enough or even thought about long enough to make sure that it was concise and got its point across.
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And, more to the point, he didn't make this just to say that Superfeesh is fake.
No, he pointed out that he has suspicions that someone is using accounts as her name, slandering her "good name" (as Raz said) and, of course, spreading rumors about FeralHeart. That, Marona, is where an aged and experienced admin would come in and make sure that the game he helps take care of is in good hands. This is not an attack on Super, it made to assure that potentially harmful rumors about our community are put to an end by reminding our userbase to be care who they're listening to.
After all, what if there are users out there pretending to be Super?
Thank You ...
Finally someone who knows how to read and interpret what Raz is saying with this message correctly.
Now I didn't care to get involved but now I'm getting involved because certain people here are just making a mess of themselves and everything these two games & communities stand for. Raz was simply pointing out the fact that there are alot of fake Superfeeshs out there especially within these recent months. Most of us have already seen them spreading false things and slandering Feesh's & Arokai's name. No where did I see Raz bashing the real Superfeesh so all you Arokai staff or people claiming to be the official Arokai staff should just cool yourselves off. We're not here to hurt your little pal. Truth is Raz was bound to address the issue at some point especially since many of these "Superfeesh" individuals have claimed things about Feral Heart and its source code etc. Feral Heart and its community got involved in Arokai matters when Arokai staff SuperFeesh whether its her real account or not brought FH into "her" discussions/rumor posts all through the interwebs. Raz, like most of us, has seen Superfeesh's, Arokai's & Feral Heart's name being dragged around and dirtied all in the same context so now he is clearing up things with the FH community. Most of the Feral Heart community are Arokai fans and deserve to know what's going on and Raz took the right steps in this post. Even if you don't like it he's being honest enough and giving us all the information for us to interpret for ourselves.
This post which should have prevented any more hostility & confusion between the two communities that trolls have caused has now just flipped back to negative thanks to many of you. Why? I don't know... Maybe because most of you are drama queens and like to be the star of a show that just isn't here. Many of you want to make some ridiculous scene of this... I don't know and really I don't care. Truth is it should be more about the game and less about the people behind it. Arokai has become more about hackers & trolls and less about the animals, fun, make believe, and hard work it should represent. Why? Because of people fueling and spitting out nonsense like what you're all doing here.
Every hostile individual here really needs to sit back for a moment, shut up, reread this, and remember the big reason why we fuss over these things so much in the first place... no matter what our view is we are all just fans of two wonderful games and communities trying to get a better understanding of the people and things behind them. The bottom line here is these are games & games and their communities sole purpose is to bring people together and to have fun. Not tear them apart because you guys can't be mature, put your ego aside, and work together. That's why the old Impressive Title died in the first place. Because so many of you couldn't control your personal emotions enough to think of the common good for the entire community. All the trolls and hackers out there prey on stupidity like this. Two perfectly wonderful communities with awesome staff teams that can't just work together and look out for each other.
Now go ahead and bend my words as much as you all like but truth of the matter is you all need to step back and reconsider your priorities here. Is all this arguing for the good of the games & communities or just proof that you all are selfish & petty and can't put aside your personal problems with each other etc?
All of you need to get your acts together.
I so agree with you there, Sura. You all need to listen to her, she knows what she's talking about. Can we please handle this in a peaceful manner? It really isn't mature.
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Raz: your choice of words in this thread does not convey the impression of someone altruistically trying to find out the truth. Your unecessary snark, condescension, and all around bitter undertones convey a far more different message: one of some one who is abusing their influence in the community to bash someone they don't like openly and disguising it as "a warning". Please by all means continue to call the people questioning you and telling you this is drama-mongering ignorant or incapable of comprehending your weak presentation; it just further shows how unprofessional you are for posting this inconclusive accusation and weakly trying to defend it as being anything but drama mongering.
Got better evidence than the unecessary dissection and catty commentary of an innocuous statement? Cool. Stop fillibustering then and show it or GTFO and save what little face you have left.
If you're actually concerned find solid evidence and present your findings like the professional your position of leadership in this community indicates you should be. Then again a professional in your position wouldn't even bring it up in front of the community in the first place and would settle things by pming their concerns to the people who've been in contact with the person they have suspicions about and let them handle it. If you're right they'll take care of it and that's that, if you're wrong then leave it and stop worrying. It's very VERY simple.
TLDR: Man up, take it to pm (no, not with Feesh, who can blame her for not wanting to talk to you after this?), and don't post this grudgewank under "news" and drag everyone else into your conspiracy- riddled mind.
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I've calmed down now, so I am sorry for sounding really aggressive and, overall, like a noob in my other posts. I can definitely see how I sound like "that" person.
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"I would try to resolve it myself"
Even so, your supporters would still get in the way, it feels like it.
If Super did end the conversation or something, that's no excuse to start all of this.. this is all so silly. If someone doesn't want to talk to you about this or feel like proving them self to not be a fraud, it's easier to just roll your eyes, accept it, and leave it alone. The FH community doesn't need to know and start spreading this around.
What if later you find out this is the real Super? Then what?
Obviously, she probably won't want to talk to you at all after you did this, so.. yeah. Chances are, you're not going to get any more info from her.
Even if you didn't intend to start all of this, it still happened, sadly. I mean, no offense, but maybe you could've thought about a little more? If you start accusing Super of being fake, of course the AK community is going to get angry.. It's only expected, and if you didn't want drama/don't like it, NOT making this post would seem like the best. Even if you didn't want this stuff to happen, well, it's gonna happen.
And, you just admitted it's not your business..? Then, there was no point in making this thread, right? Or, wait, is AK not your business or is Super not your business (according to you)?
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Honestly I don't understand the good of unlocking this thread.
Because all I see is a thread that is food for criticizing one another. Harshly. It feels as if it has abandoned it's purpose in general.
I'm on neither side here.
Really I'm just baffled by how this is being handled.
I don't even know why I'm still replying to this. I just wish it was kept locked.
I don't think I need to say any more though. My message has been said by several others and clearly the message hasn't been received. We as people are attracted to negative things and issues like flies, swarm around it, and make it look bigger.
Unless somebody puts an end to this now, I'm gonna say it's just going fester for a long while.
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Honestly I don't understand the good of unlocking this thread.
Because all I see is a thread that is food for criticizing one another. Harshly. It feels as if it has abandoned it's purpose in general.
I'm on neither side here.
Really I'm just baffled by how this is being handled.
I don't even know why I'm still replying to this. I just wish it was kept locked.
I don't think I need to say any more though. My message has been said by several others and clearly the message hasn't been received. We as people are attracted to negative things and issues like flies, swarm around it, and make it look bigger.
Unless somebody puts an end to this now, I'm gonna say it's just going fester for a long while.
You're right, it should have been left locked, or just deleted.
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Wow this...wow just wow...This sure is a ridiculous argument like Warrior I'm not on a side and all you prissy [edited for inappropriate language] arguers are so childish!
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Wow this...wow just wow...This sure is a ridiculous argument like Warrior I'm not on a side and all you prissy bitchy arguers are so childish!
I'm not picking sides either. This thread shouldn't have been unlocked, the arguments just started up all over again. And plus, there's been a bit of swearing going on, and I'm just saying that younger kids might be on here and seeing these posts... so even if you argue please keep that in mind. Sorry, a little off topic here....
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I agree the swearing should be toned down. You're all free to express your opinions but don't disregard the rules in the process.
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This is just going to go on and on. I think this should be blocked now. It has gone far enough.
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This is just going to go on and on. I think this should be blocked now. It has gone far enough.
And it's not doing anyone any good, I second this.
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Eh... deleting this post 'cause it really serves no purpose, and after a second look, I realize I know nothing. Ignore this one and move on, if you're still reading this thread.
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:/ Thank you for this. I just wish I knew why people have such intentions...grargh. Le' internet...
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Some one please put this thread out of its misery.
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An unusual announcement, as you said; however, thanks for the update. Nonetheless, it kind of enrages me that people would impersonate another like this. I do hope that- despite how terribly unlikely this would be- it would eventually stop. Somehow.
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I am honestly tired of reading the "Raz is the correct one here" and vice versa. Just reading all of this gives me a headache; things have gotten slightly off topic here. This thread wasn't meant for fighting and whatnot -- yes, I would like some proof, but just because there is none doesn't mean there are such rumors going around.
The fighting isn't doing any good and isn't helping anything, as Nope. brought up. So Raz is incorrect on this entire thing; what is the exact gain? So the "non-believers" are incorrect; what do you gain from being wrong or right in the first place?
I would prefer this thread to be locked so there are no more complaints or disagreements on this matter. I just want this to stop -- Raz was only attempting to state what he has founded, and what he has been dragged into. No need for either side to go hard-ball on this. [And please do not tell me I am making it more dramatic, or am off-topic -- I just want the bickering to end for everyone.]
I am not on anyone's side, though I do feel bad for Super because she is being copied by tons of people. I don't know about you, but I would hate it if someone just copied my character or anything similar -- though your entire name and identity would just be unsettling.
So, finally, I would like this thread to be locked, or deleted completely.~
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I didn't read anything above when I posted before. I almost fell asleep while reading all of this. I have come to my conclusion now and I also agree that this thread should be locked or deleted.
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Guys,this really should stop,it has gone too far.Why fight on something we're not sure of?I doubt that she is superfeesh,really.First,she says that she stops working on Aro'Kai,now she says she's still working on it?Every game release has its delays and sometimes the projects are abandoned.I completely understand her reasons of not continuing anymore(or stay silent) and she wants us to understand.As for the hackers,claiming fake stuff and see us arguing on it is what they really want.So I am all for locking this thread.
Also,I recommend not spreading this to let people know untill we're 100% sure that the message sent by "superfeesh" is really sent by her.
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Yup, I dont get why this thread was unlocked...maybe so Razmiriz could have posted the update... I dunno. But I think, like many people that this thread should be locked. Nothig new is being said and bad feelings in general for each other. I'm gonna stop now so I dont say how I feel about this topic and potentially get it picked apart.
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Ugh this was unlocked? 8l
I actually caused a big scene JUST so this would get locked. I seriously could care less about the arguments previously. (Though I still stand by not endorsing this site so long as Raz continues to distrust my word of the current Super he has contact with being real)
Mind you if I need endorsment Kov trusts both Super and I fully.
I had to be rude earlier to get this locked. But it seems Tigg is being fairly reasonable, which is something I didn't expect from the moderators here. So I'd request this be locked. God forbid removed or at least edited. There is an actual impersonator on the superfeesh deviantart. Hence why we stopped using dA. (besides the impersonator deleting the dA)
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Don't lock it - delete it. This is pointless drama in the first place. You guys are getting so wrapped up in stupid stuff that you're becoming quite hateful to each other no matter which side you're on. Please do everyone a favor and get rid of this embarrassment to the community.
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(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7294434048/hFD330BB0)
Make it stop.
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The first thing when I saw this I was amazed.. I mean like my face became puzzled. Same as fox i'll always happily help.
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Why are you all going to spread this around? It's nothing but a rumor right now.
What about when Razmirz proves to himself that he thinks this is the "real" Super?
Afterwards, thanks to you guys, that false "SUPER IZ FAKE!" info will still be circulating around, and it's going to be your fault. What if that happens?
Don't bother spreading this around until you have actual proof that the Super we know right now is a "fake" or whatever. Anything could happen.
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(http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34847921/Super1.jpg)
(http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34847921/super2.jpg)
(http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34847921/super3.jpg)
Well take from that what you will.
Anyone can take screenshots of exiting code they've deleted bits from and make a few more screens as you hit the redo command.
I didn't ask her to install anything. Simply click the call button and click to screen share.
I have it from a reliable source that this is supers "offical" skype I left the ID on the top of the first screenshot
For the perpose of openness
I did remove her IP
And I did remove one comment as in a previous conversation I was told not to mention it and it made no difference to the outcome of the conversation anyway.
edit: the images have been resized derpy just right click and view image to read them
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Interesting how they cannot prove who they are, further than a few screenshots which can be old or taken from something completely different.
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Real or fake, you can't just keep it to yourself? It'd really be better for both FH and AK members/staff.
You have to make an entire thread and tell the FH community (of all things!) to spread it around. Can't just keep your suspicions to yourself and NOT cause all of this drama, whether it was intended or not.
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@Luzxia
Wasn't it three posts ago that you said you wanted evidence?
Well isn't this a start?
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I meant overall, I still don't see the point in any of this.
I'm glad you actually managed to get SOME evidence, of course. However, I still don't know why all of this couldn't have been kept private. No matter how fake you think Super is (even if it does turn out to be a fraud), this thread is so pointless.. the FH community doesn't really need to know, it's not your guys' responsibility to find out an AK staff member's identity.
Also, I didn't mean to keep the evidence to yourself, I meant keep your thoughts about Super being fake to yourself. It'd even save YOU some trouble, you wouldn't have to deal with me and other AK members who oppose you/your views on this.
Lastly, your "evidence" is just Super not wanting to deal with you. You can't blame someone for not wanting to talk to you after you accuse them of being fake and telling others to do the same (it's heavily implied you want this spread around even if you didnt directly say it). If you're going to act like this, no one really has to do anything to prove their identity to you, and I doubt they should even bother at all at this point. If someone's uncomfortable, just respect that. You are entitled to absolutely nothing in this sense.
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@Luzxia
Wasn't it three posts ago that you said you wanted evidence?
Well isn't this a start?
you clearly do not know the difference between evidence and pure speculation. You are not a cop, you are not entitled to have people scrambling to prove anything to you. Cry moar.
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I don't recall saying this is all I have? I only posted it as it has little use other than for providing people somthing to go on besides my word.
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I'm not sure how to feel about this really. I can't choose if I think you should've kept this to yourself or informed us.
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I feel the same way, Stargazer now that I've been looking back to here from time to time.
Though is Super couldn't just deal with you, then that's pretty proven that she can't handle something like this. I don't know what's going on to be exact, and I don't see why she had to just not deal with this.
It would be far better if she just handled this if she was real, but she has proven that she is a fake in my opinion. Though no one yell at me, I'm just stating my opinion.
But, it is possible she is real. I don't see what's true or not, as it's hard.
But no one has had enough proof that Soup is real, as I've seen.
It probably was a bit proven, because I don't know... I'm very confused with this conversation.
I'm going to keep other thoughts to myself for now, but I've seen more proof that Soup could be a fake. Though I don't know yet.
Perhaps sometime soon you should lock this thread, as it has been told to us.
We have our opinions, but still, I remain confused.
I'm probably going to see how this goes now. I wonder, honestly.
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"I only posted it as it has little use other than for providing people somthing to go on besides my word."
Even then it's not much to go off of because you spritzed your stinky perfume of bias in the commentaries you provided along with your "evidence", "proof" ,whatever you're calling it.
You didn't say it was all you have, but that's not what I'm getting at. What you've provided so far in the way of evidence has gone to serve only as context to what remains sheer speculation- YOUR speculation, your opinion. NOT PROVEN FACT. If what you have more of as far as "proof" is you taking a post and tearing it apart word for word and speculating like crazy. . .save it. That's not evidence- or if even a tiny fraction of it is you're still reaching.
Even if you did provide something even remotely pulpy after this you've established grudgewank, overbearing behavior, and bias from the very beginning so I won't just take it with a grain of salt; I'll take it with the entire god-damned Salt flats of Utah.
This isn't news, this is crazy conspiracy talk. The only reason it's here is because you as a figure head in the group can get away with posting it and justify it as "something the community NEEDS to know. " Even if you have solid proof it's something to take up with those who can do something about it like the staff that can identify the real person. Posting here doesn't get anything done about it except for cause drama and make you look like a harassing ass. I wouldn't find this so irritating if it weren't posted in the freaking news section.
Do you know what this kind of thread on competent art sites is called? A call-out journal. And it would have been deleted by a mod in the blink of an eye. Yet you, a admin of this site and community, are posting such a thread in a site that you want to have taken seriously under "news"? What the hell man.
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From the looks of things it just doesn't look like she wants to deal with you. And in a way I agree with her that it really isn't important to try and convince anyone of who she is or who she isn't unless those people really matter.
She's already proven herself to those who matter and that's good enough for me.
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Sad to think stuff like this can crumble something so great and that who in their right mind would do this.Im tired of drama but sadly suffering and drama are parts of our human lives.On feralheart I am called popopo,hear my words wen I know somethings wrong I'll speak my mind no matter how wrong I am..my soul is wat guides me and in a matter of this its truly painfull to watch...
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It sadden's me to see that people today always want to impersonate another living being. Why can't they just leave Super alone? They need to lay off of her and stop impersonating. Impersonating is not funny, cool, nor does it get you good reputation. I wish I could talk to the REAL Super. I would tell her I never believed the impersonator's were you. I can tell, even if it is by typing, I can tell that it's someone else behind that computer screen. Why can't anyone just be WHO they are and ACCEPT for what they were born as? I will always be who I am and never question the one above about why I am who I am.
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Wow cool you can post screenshots of convos you have with people. Everyone be careful if you don't want something to do with Raz he's going to post screenshots of your conversation screaming 'NOT REAL.'
Lmfao.
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How has this not been locked/deleted yet? It's just full of arguing... ugh. If you look at the Leaving board, someone left just because of this drama. I'm still not picking sides, or putting my opinion out there (because obviously someone will just point out whats wrong with every word I say).
Just trying to steer clear of drama here. If this keeps going on, I'll probably leave the forums for a bit. I am a person who tries not to get in the middle of things... like this.
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Razmirz, I honestly expected better of a site admin. This issue regarding impersonation of a specific FH user should have been handled more professionally and kept between staff members and the user accounts in question and NOT posted for all to see. Doing such has only caused the situation to escalate and has made people upset. It has also made you come across as being unprofessional and even a bit childish.
It would be in everyone's best interest if this thread was locked before things get any more out of hand than they already are.
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How do we know the screens aren't fake? Everybody can make a fake "screenshot" of any conversation on any website. Page source code is easy to edit, you know. Even links to public conversations are not perfect proof, but screenshots of unknown origin just cannot be taken seriously.
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For God sakes listen to your community I have seen at least 10 people request this be locked and trashed. If it wasn't obvious enough this thread is now causing unneeded drama and its starting fights.
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For those who love to argue.
At no point have I asked you to believe me.
I don't do things in halves I'll be here for about the next 2 months on this one.
And the only arguments are from people who choose to create them.
Have fun
Raz
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Razmirz, I honestly expected better of a site admin. This issue regarding impersonation of a specific FH user should have been handled more professionally and kept between staff members and the user accounts in question and NOT posted for all to see. Doing such has only caused the situation to escalate and has made people upset. It has also made you come across as being unprofessional and even a bit childish.
It would be in everyone's best interest if this thread was locked before things get any more out of hand than they already are.
Even though this may be true about being an upsetting topic, I don't agree with it making somebody worse as a staff member. It's better this news is told now before it becomes even worse with the community. Sometimes people are so jealous that hey want to be the other person and it just becomes a "little" too much. As for the staff member part, it isn't about being the best or worse, it's about how you take the problem and Raz isn't perfect as a person, so he may make wrong decisions but that's his choice. I can understand what you mean but we can't just hide it and make it worse because then it will all be worse.
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I agree with Silver, no one is 100% perfect, so don't expect them to be. We have to acknowledge that we all make mistakes.
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Im sort of trying to stay out of this, the drama is getting a bit too much, cant we all settle down a bit and think things over? Razz is only trying to help and inform us, did he ever say that we had to beleive every word he put up on this screen made by thousands of pixels? Its internet, not a new WW3 or something.
Calm down a bit people.
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I'm staying out of this for a bajillion reasons. And here they are:
1.I don't know who Superfeesh is.
2.I don't feel like arguing.
3.I don't even see any valid points in arguing on here.
4.It'll probably just cause me to leave the site.
5.It caused my best buddie Shiney to leave.
6.The arguing is ridiculous.
7.All the arguing does is make you look childish.
And...
8.This ain't none of my business to even get into.
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You guys Superfeesh isn't even apart of /your/ community. Why does this involve Feral Heart? It doesn't. So butt out, Raz. Please.
Dear god.
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Probably going to be my last post in this cesspool of a thread.
Definitely agreeing with Marona right about now.. If Super is fake, it's AK's problem, not FH's. This has literally nothing to do with you guys.
You say Super "spread around rumors about FH" when people say this has nothing to do with you, so basically you're doing this in spite of her, is what you said. You haven't yet provided a reason for doing this. When I asked for proof of her spreading around FH rumors, you just said "look around, you'll find something" instead of actually providing some evidence. Maybe, are you just lying?
And, Raz, you're doing exactly what you accuse Super of doing, which is ignoring all of your problems (which apparently makes her fake for not wanting to deal with someone like you).
As soon as people start to question you or call you out on your bullshit, you just run and hide instead of answering them. You have some kind of excuse like "I didn't ask you to believe me" or things like that, which are usually completely irrelevant to the original question that was asked.
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^ Agreeing with above. But rawr, people have been telling each other to calm down for about 13 pages now. Maybe we should just stop posting.
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I think I finally figured out what is going on here. Okay, there's this game called Arokai or however it's spelt and the person who made it is called superfeesh. But other's had made an account acting and pretending to be her on that game and are spreading rumors about Feral Heart.
But good Lord people why are you being so harsh about locking and leaving it alone. I agree that we should stay out of it but you need to be all mean and acting like it's a holocaust about it.
This thread has made members leave the forum and I'm not understanding why. If you don't want the drama then freakin' ignore it. I just found out about this and just started to understand this and I feel the same about it as ever. If I see a fake Super spreading rumors about Feral Heart, I'll tell. But if there isn't any at the moment, I'll move on with my life.
This should be locked, to just get away from further conflict. But Raz can update what he had heard of and the people who aren't going to blow up can read it.
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By the way, Skyler, in no way has AroKai spread rumors about FH. o.o
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I didn't say that anything about Arokai spreading rumors. I said a fake superfeesh was. I said that the real superfeesh is the creator of the game Arokai. Or so I heard.
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For those who love to argue.
At no point have I asked you to believe me.
I don't do things in halves I'll be here for about the next 2 months on this one.
And the only arguments are from people who choose to create them.
Have fun
Raz
I'm sorry I'm saying something again but oh my God really?
The point
Your head.
At this point people are telling you time and time again this thread is unecessary, that you're behaving in an extremely unprofessional manner by putting it in public view, and that this should be treated like any other call out thread and deleted. You can't even defend why this thread is here anymore as indicated by your most recent statement. So just remove it. It's an eyesore in the news section.
No one can exactly do anything about this thread because you as the site admin can ignore your own rules and keep it up as long as you like-so of course they argue and they question; because it's all they can do to be heard and show that what you are doing is wrong. People have said time and time again this is stressful, causing drama, and uncalled for. You clearly care more about your own ego than the well-being of your community at this point. Or else you'd not insist on perpetuating this witch hunt for 2 more freaking months and just delete it.
The only thing at this point fueling this post's existence is your pride as indicated by your weak-ass responses when people bring up good points. I don't care if you pay for this server you're still answerable to this community when you behave like this. Put this wretched thread out of its misery.
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Guys seriously, arguing like this is making you look like little kids. Stop the hate comments because we get the point.
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Guys seriously, your acting like little kids. Stop the hate comments because we get the point.
Agreed. Raz gets the point, guys. No need to keep on telling him off.
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Guys seriously, your acting like little kids. Stop the hate comments because we get the point.
Agreed. Raz gets the point, guys. No need to keep on telling him off.
If he actually did he'd delete this thread. But ok :)
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Guys seriously, your acting like little kids. Stop the hate comments because we get the point.
Agreed. Raz gets the point, guys. No need to keep on telling him off.
Well, OK then,
So...
People expressing their opinions on an issue in regards to an authority figure's own opinion = acting like a bunch of kids.
Seems legit.
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Well, I was really talking to the people that were saying that they hated this thread over and over and over again -_-
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I didn't mean that. I meant that it's been causing a bit of drama, and as Raz stated, people are choosing to argue. People could just leave it and stop the drama, and perhaps the thread can be forgotten easily like that.
That's what I meant exactly. I do honestly think this should be locked, but we can just stop posting and maybe it will be forgotten, hopefully. Though it's on the top of the forum, I do wish for it to be forgotten and removed.
And, as someone said here, everyone makes mistakes so you can't expect him to be the best admin.
I know you never said he was a bad one, I'm just stating something a bit important.
I dislike this unwanted drama, and it's not being caused by Razmirz alone.
People could keep their opinions, however, I just dislike this drama, and Raz isn't truly the one causing it.
I respect your opinions, I just want to end this drama.
I don't really think that's good for opinions when everyone is stating it though, no offense.
I will not be coming back to this thread, too much arguing. The arguing is childish, is what we meant, k?
So stop. We all hate it.
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I didn't mean that. I meant that it's been causing a bit of drama, and as Raz stated, people are choosing to argue. People could just leave it and stop the drama, and perhaps the thread can be forgotten easily like that.
That's what I meant exactly. I do honestly think this should be locked, but we can just stop posting and maybe it will be forgotten, hopefully. Though it's on the top of the forum, I do wish for it to be forgotten and removed.
And, as someone said here, everyone makes mistakes so you can't expect him to be the best admin.
I know you never said he was a bad one, I'm just stating something a bit important.
I dislike this unwanted drama, and it's not being caused by Razmirz alone.
People could keep their opinions, however, I just dislike this drama, and Raz isn't truly the one causing it.
I respect your opinions, I just want to end this drama.
I don't really think that's good for opinions when everyone is stating it though, no offense.
I will not be coming back to this thread, too much arguing. The arguing is childish, is what we meant, k?
So stop. We all hate it.
That's exactly what I meant :/
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What the hell does this all have to do with Feral Heart?
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I'm not done posting until he stops filling impressionable ears with such slanderous and incorrect information.
Until then you're stuck with my argumentative comments, leave or deal with it. ;3
Also don't get mad at me saying that, because you're Raz here is saying exactly the same thing!
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This should be locked..
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/Dragonrider1227/roflbot-Bisonyes3.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/Dragonrider1227/media/roflbot-Bisonyes3.jpg.html)
After all, the real Superfeesh wants Aro'Kai related topics only on the Aro'kai website...
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I think we get the point now -_- if we stop posting on here all together all will be well
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That would also require you to stop posting~~~ ;) <3
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That would also require you to stop posting~~~ ;) <3
Being a Admin as you claim to be, you need to show at least some professionalism into the picture instead of just going at it like a child. Also, sarcastic remarks to people will not make most quiet as it will make people lash out.
I do however agree that this trend needs to be locked for obvious reasons as its gone way to far for us or perhaps you could handle. Might I suggest just getting in context with Raz since the problem is with ya'll instead of posting to us on here proving your point. I understand your frustration upon this information as she is a friend as I would stick up for a friend as well, but your way of handling the situation is more of trolling the community then actually reassuring your point.
Please someone lock this trend as its really unneeded and starting outburst.
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This should be locked..
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/Dragonrider1227/roflbot-Bisonyes3.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/Dragonrider1227/media/roflbot-Bisonyes3.jpg.html)
After all, the real Superfeesh wants Aro'Kai related topics only on the Aro'kai website...
Thanks for not taking one minute of your life to read the whole post.
I know it should be Aro'Kai's problem but if there is a fake person out there spreading rumors about Feral Heart I think attention should be drawn to that. Razmirz is just warning us about it and as a lot of people said he didn't say you have to believe it. I think it should be locked so this doesn't cause further conflict between people. Because this topic is weirdly making people over-dramaticly upset and leaving the forum until it is over.
But hey, it's Raz's choice to lock the topic or not, we can't control him.
I think people should just calm down. If you don't like this, ignore it. It's not all over the Feral Heart community. Just in one board.
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That would also require you to stop posting~~~ ;) <3
Being a Admin as you claim to be, you need to show at least some professionalism into the picture instead of just going at it like a child. Also, sarcastic remarks to people will not make most quiet as it will make people lash out.
I do however agree that this trend needs to be locked for obvious reasons as its gone way to far for us or perhaps you could handle. Might I suggest just getting in context with Raz since the problem is with ya'll instead of posting to us on here proving your point. I understand your frustration upon this information as she is a friend as I would stick up for a friend as well, but your way of handling the situation is more of trolling the community then actually reassuring your point.
Please someone lock this trend as its really unneeded and starting outburst.
Awwww and it was so quiet for a good while :(. If you're going to chew people out for lack of professionalism don't exclude the guy who decided to post this whole thing. As it is clearly grudgewank and is in the NEWS for all to see.
Now to Enderstar:
"Razmirz is just warning us about it and as a lot of people said he didn't say you have to believe it."
they are only suspicions- not a legit warning anyone should take seriously or a threat to the community, they don't belong here. Maybe he didn't directly imply people should believe it but as a leader in the community people automatically will take his word on it (and he probably knows this)-just look at all the yes-men further back thanking him for posting this garbage. Any admin with a brain knows that this kind of post incites harassment and drama- and Raz posted knowing this fact full well.
"If you don't like this, ignore it. It's not all over the Feral Heart community."
If it weren't for the fact that an ADMIN were posting libel and grudgewank under news of all things and getting away with it I'd gladly ignore this. I'm not comfortable being part of a community where the people who run it think posting something like this is ok instead of dealing with it privately.
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It's a shame someone keep's hacking Super... =~= They should leave Super alone... Thank's for posting this Raz.
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This should be locked..
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/Dragonrider1227/roflbot-Bisonyes3.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/Dragonrider1227/media/roflbot-Bisonyes3.jpg.html)
After all, the real Superfeesh wants Aro'Kai related topics only on the Aro'kai website...
Thanks for not taking one minute of your life to read the whole post.
I know it should be Aro'Kai's problem but if there is a fake person out there spreading rumors about Feral Heart I think attention should be drawn to that. Razmirz is just warning us about it and as a lot of people said he didn't say you have to believe it. I think it should be locked so this doesn't cause further conflict between people. Because this topic is weirdly making people over-dramaticly upset and leaving the forum until it is over.
But hey, it's Raz's choice to lock the topic or not, we can't control him.
I think people should just calm down. If you don't like this, ignore it. It's not all over the Feral Heart community. Just in one board.
Agreed. ^w^
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It's a shame someone keep's hacking Super... =~= They should leave Super alone... Thank's for posting this Raz.
I don't think Super is being hacked I just think people are making fake accounts claiming to be superfeesh and spreading rumors. But eh, I'm not really sure.
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Hun in no way am I required to act like a perfect citizen in another forum. LOL. I act perfectly professional on my own forum<3
I'm especially not going to give respect to someone who can't respect another person's privacy. That would be quite the atrocity in it's own.
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Now look. I want to understand one thing here. I know we all love and adore our Superfeesh very much and appreciate the hard work and effort she is putting in to Aro'Kai. But you all must understand something. This thread is tearing people apart. Looking through the comments is disgusting me. This topic should be locked, or if anything, moved to a part of the site where people who care and honestly know what is going on can comment. Now, I am not pointing out anyone in specifics here, it is just the rage war infecting the comments section is ridiculous. I know many of you are enraged by this but you want to know the sad part? If this wasn't someone big like Super being hacked or having false identities spread around the internet, it wouldn't have made it to this part of the forum. That kind of has to make us think. Why is it that this particular case has to be considered so severe when there may be others on the FH forums going through the same thing? What kind of help and attention are they getting?
None.
Because if they speak up they are afraid they won't be heard.
I concur with all of the people on here who think that this should not be in the News and Updates section. This is not something which concerns all the players of FH, and therefore should be relocated to a different section of the forums where it is more applicable. I understand that we want to help Super get her identity back but at the same time, aren't we just feeding the trolls?
By making accusations as such, you must understand that that is clearly what the people who hacked Super wanted, aside from of course, exploiting her. We also need to understand that the best way to solve this situation is to get someone who knows Super in real life to help her out.
For all we know, Super may be going by a completely unknown alias until everything else settles down so she will eventually be able to regain her name as 'Superfeesh.' Having your identity stolen is in no way something to shrug off, but as I have said previously, not everyone on FH needs to see this. Nor do they all care.
The best thing to do currently is to lock the topic, move it, and if anything more serious arises, we may come together in a friendly manner to try and assist her. If you wish to start a flamewar with me or anything of the sort, do as you wish. I have said my part. I will not reply to any comments directed at this post. Because I know that my view will remain the same either way.
But always remember.
If she wasn't known by many, none of you would have cared.
Regards,
~ Komoria.
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You know, people don't have to get involved with this. They don't have to follow this, so why move it.
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This entire thread consists of bored members attempting to establish some sense of authority or meaning in disputes between the staff of animal roleplaying games. I will never understand how you people can take this nonsense so seriously or even apply the term "professional" to anything that pertains to a free, glorified chat room. I'm genuinely curious as to what the common incentive is; why does everyone feel inclined to debate about Super/Onowl's legitimacy via moderately lengthy forum posts?
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This entire thread consists of bored members attempting to establish some sense of authority or meaning in disputes between the staff of animal roleplaying games. I will never understand how you people can take this nonsense so seriously or even apply the term "professional" to anything that pertains to a free, glorified chat room. I'm genuinely curious as to what the common incentive is; why does everyone feel inclined to debate about Super/Onowl's legitimacy via moderately lengthy forum posts?
The term "professional" is bandied about because while this is indeed a glorified chatroom it is one that has rules of conduct that the staff supposedly is adamant about enforcing, and the chat room in question is full of impressionable young minds - which is why some semblance of maturity and leadership is expected from the staff. I don't speak for everyone here but that's why I've been running my mouth off- not so much over the legitimacy of someone but the conduct the poster of this thread is displaying and example they are setting.
Honestly I would just love to see this thread banished to the farthest corners of someone's recycle bin at this point.
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*Puts ducktape over everyone's mouths who keep starting things.* Look if y'all want these little disputes to end then stop posting in THIS THREAD!!! seesh is that really hard to understand or what?
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I know what I'm saying may not be in the hands of mine to say, but guys we need to stop fighting against eachother (Not calling any names out) and work together as a team. Honestly, we have 1 group saying lock the thread, another group who is talking back to others, etc. I know this is a forum, and that we all may have different opinions, but can't we at least be nice about it (Like even if you disagree, say it in a agreeing way..)? I'm just saying. As a re-cap of my post, Raz is trying to do his best, and telling him to stop and all, isn't helping, it's like 3 vs. 1; not fair. It needs to calm down a little. I'm going to probably be talked back at by another person, but we can at least stop and think how we are treating others. I'm not picking on anybody right now, but I honestly think that we all are getting each other's fuse started up and we don't need to get all this mad over it. Sure, we can't fully stop this, but if we all help each other then we can prevent this happening. What's fighting at each other going to do? Not going to solve a problem compared to each other working together. Again, not talking about any one in specific. I think we need to chill down, even ME. I'm not mad at anyone, but this whole board got worse when everyone started making fuel against each other. I mean sure you can still state opinions, but don't use it as a comeback against somebody. It's like saying "Two wrongs don't make one right". When we make a problem get to us, it creates what's happening to us right now, but can't we step back and at least calm down? I think I'm giving fuel right now, ranting maybe but I honestly can't stand when others are putting down others just because of this situation. If there were one person to blame, it'd be the false person spreading this stuff.
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I know I said I wouldn't post here anymore a few pages back, but, guys..
Can we all please shut the hell up (including myself) so that this thread finally dies down?
I can't see any reasons why it shouldn't be locked. People are just going to argue and sass each other and it's really pointless. Raz himself seems to have abandoned it so no one is going to get any clarification.
I mean, most of the last page was just people telling each other "STOP POSTING!!!!!" "dis should be locked" "SUPER IS FAKE THANKS RAZ!!!"
There is no point in leaving this thread open, to be honest.
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You both realize this discussion ended about three days ago, right? >.<'
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If it ended 3 days ago, people wouldn't still be posting in it, haha..
Since the mods might not lock this thread anytime, can we all agree to just stop posting?
No snippy little comments, no replying to older posts, nothing. Let's just be quiet already and make believe the thread is locked. While I have no authority over anyone and I can't really force people, hopefully we can all agree that we need to just stop replying to this pointless thread. We aren't doing anything expect arguing and that's not really okay.
This is probably going to be my last post in this thread, and hopefully everyone else's too.
I hope this makes sense and also doesn't sound rude or anything.
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I have heard of Aro'Kai and been waiting patiently for a long time for it to come out. But I had forgotten about it till I read this post. I haven't seen anything about Super Feesh or anything She's posted. But I lack the determination to go out and research more about things. XD I am glad you posted this message Razmirz. I hope Super Feesh will be all right, and I appreciate the fact that waiting longer for Aro'Kai to come out is okay. And to those people who do not have the will to wait: People have lives outside of the computer! Quit being selfish. (I just noticed selfish had the word fish in it o3o)
~optimal
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At first I was confused because my nickname is Super, but to be honest. I'm still confused.
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Thank you for this update, Raz.
I feel terrible for Super, and I wish this nonsense would stop.
Unfortunatley, these people are most likely too immature to do so.
Hopefully everything goes well for her.
Cheers,
Dj.
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Thanks for the notice, or whatever I would call this, Raz ;D
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I hate to see that Super is having so many of her accounts stolen... I honestly cannot stand hackers, and now I feel so bad for her... identity theft is no game. The hacker should be rooted out and have their little 'game' exposed and ended. ~Vio
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This brings up a lot of questions.
First of all, I didn't really believe Aro'kai was going to come out anyway. I had never seen a real post about it- Only one, and I didn't believe it was real. After being led to a few others, I started to believe most of them I saw, except the ones that were obviously fake.
Second, now I don't know what to believe. I was just starting to gain a little bit of hope once I saw some of the posts, but now I don't know what to think or believe. I'm just going to sit and wait for it to come out, if it does, and if it doesn't, heck, we still have Feralheart, don't we? :3
I will help spread this, Raz.
~Rat Attack
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Although there are quite a few whom always impersonate, this time it is no laughing matter considering SuperFeesh did get have the DA hacked, however it is the saddest thing to see when someone impersonating her won't show that they are her and think that it wouldn't matter. For the simplest reason is there is so many people stating such things that they need to be found and eliminated from DA and the other sites.
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I SERIOUSLY don't get why this is still open. Lock or at least DELETE it. Its causing fights and drama.
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I SERIOUSLY don't get why this is still open. Lock or at least DELETE it. Its causing fights and drama.
If Raz wanted it locked, he would have locked it by now, friend. And the reason it was causing drama in the beginning was because of users reacting harshly before they understood the reason he'd posted it in the first place.
It was merely a warning about his suspicion of someone hacking Super, and he wanted to make sure the community knew that they needed to be careful about who they listened to regarding her, and some things being said about FH (these things were connected in outside sources, you see). It's to protect FH's users from potentially harmful rumors.
The reactions to this post have died down considerably, though, so there's no need to worry about it. And if you don't like looking at it, just give the thread a read, and let it be; you don't have to keep looking at it. No one has really been "fighting" in the past couple of threads, anyway.
It's alright, floof. c:
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Ok thanks for posting this, i'll watch out for the fake Super
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The "official" Aro'kai blog (http://arokaidevelopment.tumblr.com/) lists the "fake" Onowl as being a member.
Shusuke links back to the "official" blog here (http://comments.deviantart.com/4/16792912/3069231026).
I am horribly confused.
Don't be, the site tumblr (thatone) and the youtube account (ArokaiTeam) are where you can find official news and them only.
Anyway Onowl has given up on DA, and there will never be an 'Official' group on there again with all the hoo-ha that went on with the hacked group and all that lovely jubbly-ness.
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The "official" Aro'kai blog (http://arokaidevelopment.tumblr.com/) lists the "fake" Onowl as being a member.
Shusuke links back to the "official" blog here (http://comments.deviantart.com/4/16792912/3069231026).
I am horribly confused.
That's because the "fake" Onowl isn't fake. It's her tumblr account.
Whole reason why a few people were arguing in here because all it is is nitpicking a text post and claiming that they "might" be a fake, which anyone can really do.
The tumblr is official and is run by several staff members along with Onowl.
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I'll say it now just to get it out of the way. I'm not saying anything bad about real Feesh or fake Feesh, I'm just making an observation.
If that was the real Feesh, you would think she would be concerned about whether people thought it was her or not. I would want people to believe that I am me, not someone else, don't you think? If someone started saying that I'm not me, I would do everything in my power to prove that it is, in fact, me. If I couldn't do a Livestream I would have requested some other screen sharing site. Personally, My computer doesn't lag or slow when I'm on Livestream or Joinme, but I can't say that for everyone's computer since mine is a bit newer.
If it was the real Feesh, you'd think she wouldn't be so defensive about the whole topic, yes? In the first part, she says "I don't need to answer any of your questions you may have for me." Well, if you want the mess sorted out, then, yeah, you kinda do. And then she says "people change over time." One does not simply go from being open and honest to defensive and withdrawn unless they're hiding something.
Not that I'm really involved in drama and such. I just felt that I had to say this. -Rant concluded
Anywho, thanks for bringing this to everyone's attention. ^.^
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If it were me being impersonated I'd only care about my fellow staff and online friends knowing and believing who I really am, because they're practically my family. Random people on the internet from sites I wouldn't bother visiting? I could give two craps about them.
And in honesty she really doesn't have to answer anything, nor would anyone else were they in this sort of situation. Saying that they "have to" is prying, and it's invading their privacy.
I highly doubt that if you were in this situation yourself you'd want to talk to a bunch of angry people breathing down your throat for various forms of proof that you find very precious or important and don't want to share with random people on the internet. I sure as heck know I wouldn't. .___.
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I wouldn't show them EVERYTHING. I would show them what they ask for (within reason), and that's it. And I agree, I would only care that my friends and staff knew who I was, but it would save me a bunch of crap if everyone knew I was really me, ya know?
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Then you'd have to take into account if anything asked was within good bounds to actually answer. The skype conversation on the first page was pretty much asking for an LS or a screenshare, which Soup obviously wasn't comfortable doing [thus it was out of bounds and not 'within reason'], and since any other valid offers she had were turned down in favor of the way she found intrusive, no information was given.
Actually, not really. It'd be more stressful to try and convince THOUSANDS or HUNDREDS of people that you ARE you than just being satisfied that those you care about are safe. Anyone who doesn't believe you're you - people you don't know or really care for - don't even deserve the time of day.
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I see nothing wrong with someone seeing the progress I'm making on a game, particularly if there is no personal information being displayed.
If the evidence I give them isn't good enough, then nothing is.
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Poor feesh, having her accounts hacked...
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Just an FYI, Feesh recently released a second demo, which only the real Feesh could do. She is 100% positively real, no doubt about it now, so this thread should be locked.
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For the purpose of clarity this has absolutely nothing to do with Arokai this thread is purely regarding superfeesh/onowl
Read the entire post Mink.
http://onowl.tumblr.com/post/52136671652/regarding-someones-claim (http://onowl.tumblr.com/post/52136671652/regarding-someones-claim)
As you can see, a "fake Super response". It has nothing to do with Aro'kai. It has to do with Feesh.
QUOTES FROM RAZMIRZ:
Most of you are aware of the Arokai project and Superfeesh also now known as Onowl. Unfortunately I have reason to believe without doubt that not only have most of Super's accounts been taken over. But their trusted name is being used to spread false rumors.
If your looking for my evidence I will be keeping it to myself for the time being but take a look at all the new accounts popping up all of a sudden claiming to be Super. Have we ever known such an increase in activity from her? Look at the things she speaks about too. The comments barely resemble what she used to post about.
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Because of the impersonations false rumors have been spreading about her, and the game. So no, the thread shouldn't be locked because of a misapprehension lol
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This has nothing to do with Super But...Why is the game down?
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If it's not related then don't post it 'ere! XD I'm sure if you go to the help section the answer will be there as people would have probably posted the same question in there! The most likely reason though is that the server dozed off.
Edit: Forgot this bit.
Although, as of now (me writing this) it says that its online, although with no usercount, unless they've taken that off. (But I dunno.)
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((...It's for updates!!!! -Le dances-))
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The game is being updated?
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The game is being updated?
No, someone went off-topic, so it's just a misunderstanding.
(This is why we don't go off-topic in a specific thread, my friends!)
((...It's for updates!!!! -Le dances-))
This board (News and Announcements) is for updates, news and announcements, but this thread is for Razmirz's announcement regarding his suspicions around possible hackers of Superfeesh.
Nothing about the server.
However, regarding your previous question, the server did suffer a double hard drive crash a few weeks ago, and so we've been having some bumps along the way while Raz works to get the server optimized to its full potential again. So, sit tight, and it should be back up soon.
Now, please, stay on topic for this board, or move your questions to a more appropriate place. Thanks!
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What did super do? I haven't been on the forum in a while so I think I missed that part...
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Nothing she just got her accounts hacked and Raz is saying to everyone to be careful. (Although I don't really know why this thread is still going on. It could have been left as a simple 1 post locked and stickied.)
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The forum's going on to spread the word, every site i've been on has shared this exact message on their Forums and now, pretty much everyone i know is wary.
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Yet they dont even know if its true or not... ._.
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The account that was compromised was her dA, not her Tumblr. The dA doesn't even exist anymore.
That's the only reason that makes this announcement infuriating. The issue was already handled and the compromised accounts were already identified months before this thread was ever put up.
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I'm a bit confused about this. Has she been hacked? Which one is real?
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The tumblr is real.
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Oh... what about her skype?
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It's legit, too.
Really, this whole 'announcement' on her accounts came months too late. The whole drama of it started up back in January. And it was properly handled.
All it did was rekindle something that's already been acknowledged and taken care of.
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Oh right, i get it now floof
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tanks raz
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My My, what an immature person.
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Wow, wonder how that person who told me the superfeesh was quitting it all feels now? told her it was a lie. Thanks Razmirz! thanks for the info!
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Who unlocked this... this should be locked and STAY locked. Whoever keeps unlocking it should stop this has gotten to the point its just stale and dumb.
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Things always happen like this, take it easy fluffeh. Life is too short.
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Thank you for sharing. I may be new to feral heart but it easy to see that the work you put into everything on a daily basis is astonishing. I hope all of this can be resolved, sooner better than later. You have enough to deal with as it is.
Sincerely~ Siege
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I have witnessed another impersonation of super on the Thirku forums. Now correct me if I'm wrong but it doesn't seem like Super would go around signing up to random proboards forums. So unlikely. She has her own game going on and I doubt she would step away from it just to go on some forums.
Not only that but her username is Souper and she claims to be Onowl/superfeesh. --> http://thirku.boards.net/user/24 (http://thirku.boards.net/user/24)
Find out for yourselves.
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It's always worth a mention via private message to Onowl in the Arokai forum. Just in case that person really isn't her and is impersonating her or spreading weird rumors about Arokai etc.
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I wasn't originally going to say anything, but I feel like it's sort of necessary.
On our forums, "souper" is indeed the username of a member who just recently joined, and yes, she does say she is Superfeesh and Onowl. We haven't had any reason to believe it isn't her, though, and if we haven't found supportive evidence then I don't see why we should do anything about it. One of our admins has already contacted Onowl on the Aro'kai forums as confirmation just to settle everything.
Furthermore I don't see how the Thirku forums is a 'random' forum, as you put it. Thirku and Aro'kai are both CreativeMMORPG games in production - it makes sense for us to scout each other out. We're direct competitors in this regard. Plus, on the forums, souper has been nothing but pleasant to all the members and has even made some friendly suggestions, even wishing us luck with our game.
I'm not saying we won't keep an eye out for problems like this, as I know they have happened in the past. I just don't think that we should immediately assume that she's a fake without any hard evidence to back it up.
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Oh no I didn't mean for it to sound as if your forum is random, I sure do like your forum and the name. I just don't get why she would go off and sign up to other forums. I hope this gets settled as it does make me have all sorts of thoughts. Hopefully she is the real super, and I wish you good luck with the game too xD
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Thanks Raz. I'll warn others.
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Thanks Raz. I'll warn others.
No one needs any warnings.
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Thank you, Raz. I'm sorry to hear you had to deal with all of this. C:
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Wow! I feel really bad for Super!