I agree to an extent, however, I thought that members who where MOTS before where allowed to be re-voted 2 seasons after?
Oh man, I misread your post completely, then. I agree. Once a MOTS, never a MOTS again. Some in the past have had three MOTS titles and I too don't see it as fair because there are tons of other members who deserves the title. Maybe for the ones who have been MOTS, a custom member title or page badge?I agree to an extent, however, I thought that members who where MOTS before where allowed to be re-voted 2 seasons after?
Members can't be elected the following season after chosen last season. It's not 2 season after. Overall, i think its should be a one time deal.
Oh man, I misread your post completely, then. I agree. Once a MOTS, never a MOTS again. Some in the past have had three MOTS titles and I too don't see it as fair because there are tons of other members who deserves the title. Maybe for the ones who have been MOTS, a custom member title or page badge?I agree to an extent, however, I thought that members who where MOTS before where allowed to be re-voted 2 seasons after?
Members can't be elected the following season after chosen last season. It's not 2 season after. Overall, i think its should be a one time deal.
Agree majorly. It's hard for it not to happen, but preventing it would be nice. I feel with it rotating so much it turns people away from wanting to pursue it.
I don't necessarily 100% agree as some MOTS will go away for some time and return and I think if they're still helping out the community, they deserve the opportunity to be a MOTS once again.
I think it should at least be updated to a limit of once a year/once every four seasons instead of just every other season. It'd prevent that cycle of the same people getting MOTS every other season and would allow fresh blood, but I do think it'd be fine for people to be renominated once in a while. FH doesn't have that big of a community, especially on the forum, so I think allowing duplicate MOTS wouldn't cause too much harm.Yes, this wouldn't be as bad, but taking away the previous MOTS chance to be MOTS ever again, at all? That's like throwing meat in a dogs face and them starting the meal and you ripping it away. They definitely deserve to have the chance to be MOTS after so long. Maybe not so close together, but at least a chance to earn the title again is a good feeling when you're being a helpful member to the community.
I don't necessarily 100% agree as some MOTS will go away for some time and return and I think if they're still helping out the community, they deserve the opportunity to be a MOTS once again.
I will have to disagree. The point of MOTS is to be recognize and have your name on the Hall Of Fame. Regardless if they left and returned, there no need to be nominated.
I might just be misunderstanding your reply, but I think in my post I pretty much said exactly what you're trying to say. I was saying MOTS should have the opportunity to be re-elected, just not within as short of a timespan.I think it should at least be updated to a limit of once a year/once every four seasons instead of just every other season. It'd prevent that cycle of the same people getting MOTS every other season and would allow fresh blood, but I do think it'd be fine for people to be renominated once in a while. FH doesn't have that big of a community, especially on the forum, so I think allowing duplicate MOTS wouldn't cause too much harm.Yes, this wouldn't be as bad, but taking away the previous MOTS chance to be MOTS ever again, at all? That's like throwing meat in a dogs face and them starting the meal and you ripping it away. They definitely deserve to have the chance to be MOTS after so long. Maybe not so close together, but at least a chance to earn the title again is a good feeling when you're being a helpful member to the community.
Yeah I explained that a bit weird I was dealing with something IRL, I was basically trying to agree with your comment. Oof. Sorrry about that. Where I said "not getting a chance to be it at all?" was me just throwing in a point is all, not directed at you, love! <3I might just be misunderstanding your reply, but I think in my post I pretty much said exactly what you're trying to say. I was saying MOTS should have the opportunity to be re-elected, just not within as short of a timespan.I think it should at least be updated to a limit of once a year/once every four seasons instead of just every other season. It'd prevent that cycle of the same people getting MOTS every other season and would allow fresh blood, but I do think it'd be fine for people to be renominated once in a while. FH doesn't have that big of a community, especially on the forum, so I think allowing duplicate MOTS wouldn't cause too much harm.Yes, this wouldn't be as bad, but taking away the previous MOTS chance to be MOTS ever again, at all? That's like throwing meat in a dogs face and them starting the meal and you ripping it away. They definitely deserve to have the chance to be MOTS after so long. Maybe not so close together, but at least a chance to earn the title again is a good feeling when you're being a helpful member to the community.
Yes, another point I was trying to get at, not many members are using the forum or helping the community as much as others who usually end up getting MOTS.Well, the only reason so many people got nominated again is because there just aren't enough people on the forums helping out to be nominated. We get the forums active, new people becoming MOTS every season will be more frequent.
Tbh it seems like the same people get MOTS over and over again without anyone new coming to the table.
I know this community is small and the active member population on the forum is much smaller but this comes of as clique-y.
I think there should be a rule in which someone who's nominated MOTS once doesn't get it for another year. This allows for new people to fill in.
Ah I see, sorry about that! ^^Yeah I explained that a bit weird I was dealing with something IRL, I was basically trying to agree with your comment. Oof. Sorrry about that. Where I said "not getting a chance to be it at all?" was me just throwing in a point is all, not directed at you, love! <3I might just be misunderstanding your reply, but I think in my post I pretty much said exactly what you're trying to say. I was saying MOTS should have the opportunity to be re-elected, just not within as short of a timespan.I think it should at least be updated to a limit of once a year/once every four seasons instead of just every other season. It'd prevent that cycle of the same people getting MOTS every other season and would allow fresh blood, but I do think it'd be fine for people to be renominated once in a while. FH doesn't have that big of a community, especially on the forum, so I think allowing duplicate MOTS wouldn't cause too much harm.Yes, this wouldn't be as bad, but taking away the previous MOTS chance to be MOTS ever again, at all? That's like throwing meat in a dogs face and them starting the meal and you ripping it away. They definitely deserve to have the chance to be MOTS after so long. Maybe not so close together, but at least a chance to earn the title again is a good feeling when you're being a helpful member to the community.
Im not gonna repeat what’s already been said, but I do think making it a year until a MOTS can get nominated again is a good idea. Even if it’s unlikely for someone to be nominated twice a year, it might put other members at ease, feeling like they’ve got a shot.
Personally, I believe that an user should be eligible to become MOTS only once every two seasons.Very much agree!
For example: If someone was a Spring MOTS, they can't patricipate in the next two seasons, meaning that they can only have the chance to become a Winter MOTS (again).
Tambourine and Scally have made a couple of fair points that should be worth considering.Thank you much for this post Pan! Explained very well and such. Hope to hear more about it all soon.
I, myself, agree partially with the idea in this thread, but before I give my input, let's unpack what constitutes a MOTS. The Member of the Season title is granted mainly to those who have a presence on the forum, remain active, lend a helping hand to those who need it, and are generally just friendly individuals with kind words to say and good ideas to share. These are all loose "requirements," and I say that with quotes because they aren't necessarily requirements at all per se. It's what the title implies first and foremost, but also how you guys gauge members and somewhat decide for yourselves who is and isn't eligible for the title.
With that in mind, wouldn't it make sense to give even previous MOTS the ability to be re-elected if they continue putting in the effort and dedication? This is where I will agree that perhaps the cooldown for re-election can be extended a bit more to give other users a chance, but also keep in mind that users chosen are still based on your input. You (and even us) are given the choice to nominate anyone you see fit, and to see those repeated names in the MOTS Hall of Fame are all dependent on what you guys do, and the users who are currently making a presence on the forum at the time.
We can limit that by providing a few extra rules, yes, and that might resolve the rotation of names issue or the "clique-y" feel this system occasionally results in, which seems to be the main concern here. However, to not have a previous MOTS be nominated ever again is completely off the table, especially with a small community such as this where, on occasion, we are only left with the choice to renominate previous winners if they’re the only ones still around. This doesn’t mean that there aren’t ever any new faces that show up on the Hall of Fame, though! I’ve seen quite a handful of different names up there and not as many repeats as you guys make it sound.
It all simply comes down to the size of the community, who you guys choose based on your own conditions, and the amount of users actually maintaining their activity here on the forum by posting around, being friendly and offering help. I personally don’t believe it’s fair if a member still goes out of their way for the community only to never be acknowledged for it again.
Perhaps we can look into the “previous MOTS can’t be elected again for the next x seasons” that you guys suggested a bit more. With Raz's MOTS proposal, this is certainly something Staff will likely need to discuss in order to compensate for any hiccups down the road and to give everyone a fair chance at this opportunity.
I know I'm mostly tardy to the party but I would still like to give my thoughts / opinions on the whole MOTS situation..
While having such an honor to be considered MOTS and be recognized by a community of members who's helping keep this place going, shouldn't the feeling of accomplishment and drive go past just a title?
Yes, you're wanting to be recognized and known and yes, you would like to be rewarded for your efforts and all but you should enjoy helping without even caring about what comes out of it.
I know it's easier said than done and not everyone has this sort of mind complex but even in life, you can be doing something that you enjoy and you may not even be rewarded for it... EVER. You should enjoy the feeling that you're being a part of something and just helping out in the end. . Doing something that you genuinely love for the sake of enjoyment and something that motivates and keeps you going everyday.
I won't lie, I don't mind being MOTS but I'm not doing it for a title, I'm doing it because I want to learn, I want to help and I want to give back to the community. Even during nominations, I'm surprised that my name would even get listed... at all. Genuinely serious too.
When I see members being represented for the season, I applaud them. If I see their names placed again or if they get re-elected for it, once again I applaud them. They're mostly doing something that they enjoy doing. Helping to give back and whatnot. So whether a member gets re-elected / chosen again, don't let it discourage you. We all start off somewhere. We all may not be known to community but efforts and talents here DON'T go unnoticed. Someone is ALWAYS watching you, admiring what you do. You yourself could be a role model and an inspiration for someone that wants to help out but doesn't know how as well.
TL;DR >> Whatever happens with the future of the MOTS and how members get re-elected and chosen, I hope more users sees others as motivators. And maybe with effort and time we'll be able to point out more members who should be praised for works. So good luck ~
Ahhh Hakumi, glad to see your opinion on the whole thing. Very well said and I agree very much with your post!
I will have to disagree. The point of MOTS is to be recognize and have your name on the Hall Of Fame. Regardless if they left and returned, there no need to be nominated.
Personally, I believe that an user should be eligible to become MOTS only once every two seasons.Very much agree!
For example: If someone was a Spring MOTS, they can't patricipate in the next two seasons, meaning that they can only have the chance to become a Winter MOTS (again).