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International Board
ThatsNotOk:
If an International Board is made, I do not see such a desperate need to put people in positions of "daycare supervisor" mini-mod, when really, instead, the act of reporting still exists, in game and in forum. When I see something inappropriate in a biography in game, I report it, privately and in a note to a moderator because I know they fail to check those things despite the nasty stuff people write.
If I were to step into the hypothetical International Board, and I opened a German or French thread, and I saw that spicy slang the staff could not translate, I would link and specify it to a mod. I would offer a translation as to why it is against the rules, and be on my way. I myself would not have to step in and cause a ruckus personally in that ~classique dreaded mini-mod fashion~ It would be just as reports are handled in game. Even though this may not be assuring, in a healthy group of people, everyone who has read the rules will think "yes, this is reasonable" and know what to do when the rules are observed being broken. Thus, I don't really think I'll be listing anyone to nominate for a potentially unnecessary position quite yet, though I understand your concern. Having existing mods be speakers is a plus, either way.
My final point is that, to have some faith in the kids who would post there. I'm sure a board for players primarily making threads to find their friends in game (or a tutorial on how to install Mass Markings for my poor Quebecois buddy who can't figure out why all the animals are white!) will have slow and manageable activity, and wouldn't instantly become a cesspool. Knowing there ARE existing rules, and people watching regardless of having a shiny badge that means quite nothing, it would be the calmest board on the site.
Finally, I really do like the added bonus idea of adding a language option to the text on the site itself. A drop-down option with a few common languages are enough, and that would translate the log-in page, news screen, home site, and forum. That those foreign players stuck on the game to warm up to the site itself. That would be the very icing on the cake.
Bawfle:
MIT training wouldn't really be necessary as this would only be a Report and Assist responsibility. The only reason I suggest a board Mini-Mod for each dedicated language populated on said board is for the reassurance to the community and staff that there are specific people who are actively moderating that specific board. They would only have a 'Mini-Mod' title under their name instead of 'Jr. Member' for example. Nothing else too special. It's just a way to say "yes, great, we have these people taking time out of their day to read through new foreign language posts, that is one less thing for us to worry about".
Sure, other members who also speak the same language could also report and assist, but the reassurance of someone having a specific responsibility and daily task is more important than you think. Other than reporting and assisting, these users may also want private help, possibly assisting members who may need/want private help from someone who speaks their language, someone who they can access quick, someone they know is going to actively respond to them just by having this Mini-Mod type title on the board. I can guarantee there won't be as many community helpers as you see on the rest of the forum as there's only a hand full of users who speak a foreign language and primarily use it to communicate with others, like those you will see in Cape.
As for the limit, I feel like putting a limit on languages to begin with would defeat the purpose and make the other languages feel shut out almost, which I don't think all this is about.
I think the term "daycare supervisor" is a little bit of a childish way to put it, as the board wouldn't be a daycare. That's almost like calling the FH Staff the "daycare supervisors" and all the other members are the mindless infants that throw a tantrum and don't know how to listen.
But, hopefully in this post I have made it more clear as to how effective and important assigning Mini-Mods to this kind of board would be. If not I'd be very disappointed.
Jango_Fett:
--- Quote from: ThatsNotOk on December 26, 2018, 07:46:56 pm ---If an International Board is made, I do not see such a desperate need to put people in positions of "daycare supervisor" mini-mod, when really, instead, the act of reporting still exists, in game and in forum. When I see something inappropriate in a biography in game, I report it, privately and in a note to a moderator because I know they fail to check those things despite the nasty stuff people write.
If I were to step into the hypothetical International Board, and I opened a German or French thread, and I saw that spicy slang the staff could not translate, I would link and specify it to a mod. I would offer a translation as to why it is against the rules, and be on my way. I myself would not have to step in and cause a ruckus personally in that ~classique dreaded mini-mod fashion~ It would be just as reports are handled in game. Even though this may not be assuring, in a healthy group of people, everyone who has read the rules will think "yes, this is reasonable" and know what to do when the rules are observed being broken. Thus, I don't really think I'll be listing anyone to nominate for a potentially unnecessary position quite yet, though I understand your concern. Having existing mods be speakers is a plus, either way.
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This.
All of this.
Just this.
Have a little faith in this community. For the most part, it can self-moderate better than most.
In-game I've seen people break rules, and after a simple 'hey, might wanna cut that out. s'against rules' everything clears up.
If it continues, you just quietly send in a report detailing what happens and go about with your day.
The only difference this would have to anything else is that it's not in English.
This forum has also had a long-overdue need to foreign tutorials, since basically all of the ones readily available on the website are exclusively in English.
Granted, following it picture by picture isn't too difficult.
--- Quote from: Bawfle on December 26, 2018, 10:50:30 pm ---MIT training wouldn't really be necessary as this would only be a Report and Assist responsibility. The only reason I suggest a board Mini-Mod for each dedicated language populated on said board is for the reassurance to the community and staff that there are specific people who are actively moderating that specific board. They would only have a 'Mini-Mod' title under their name instead of 'Jr. Member' for example. Nothing else too special. It's just a way to say "yes, great, we have these people taking time out of their day to read through new foreign language posts, that is one less thing for us to worry about".
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I was more-so making a comparison to how normal staff are selected. That is the only reason I brought up MITs.
--- Quote from: Bawfle on December 26, 2018, 10:50:30 pm ---As for the limit, I feel like putting a limit on languages to begin with would defeat the purpose and make the other languages feel shut out almost, which I don't think all this is about.
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I'm just trying to find a compromise, since having everything go hither and yon would obviously put a massive burden on the already not terribly large Staff team.
If such a compromise is not necessary, then, hey, it isn't necessary.
--- Quote from: Bawfle on December 26, 2018, 10:50:30 pm ---I think the term "daycare supervisor" is a little bit of a childish way to put it, as the board wouldn't be a daycare. That's almost like calling the FH Staff the "daycare supervisors" and all the other members are the mindless infants that throw a tantrum and don't know how to listen.
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I think it that was a joke, fam. Although to be fair that is what it's starting to sound like.
The community wouldn't fall apart if there were no Mini-Mods, it'd just be more tedious for this sort of thing. They are most certainly useful and I'm not against having those for this kind of board.
But again - Have a little faith in this playerbase. They may surprise you with how well they can keep each other in check.
Bawfle:
I'm not saying I don't have faith xD People self-moderate all the time, people say things like "hey, might wanna cut that out. s'against rules", all the time. I am just saying people who aren't native English speakers might feel some comfort in knowing there is someone they can communicate with in their own language. Someone they can rely on to give them straight answers or private assistance if necessary, as it does happen. As well as being a reliable foreign language moderator of sorts for a specific language in that board.
Maybe have a little faith in me, as well, because I wouldn't be bringing all this up if I didn't think it was necessary to have.
Jango_Fett:
--- Quote from: Bawfle on December 26, 2018, 11:16:13 pm ---I'm not saying I don't have faith xD People self-moderate all the time, people say things like "hey, might wanna cut that out. s'against rules", all the time. I am just saying people who aren't native English speakers might feel some comfort in knowing there is someone they can communicate with in their own language. Someone they can rely on to give them straight answers or private assistance if necessary, as it does happen. As well as being a reliable foreign language moderator of sorts for a specific language in that board.
Maybe have a little faith in me, as well, because I wouldn't be bringing all this up if I didn't think it was necessary to have.
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I ain't disagreein with you here either - I think a form of moderation is necessary.
I'm saying it can be done, and that we should at the very least try. Look and see how it turns out.
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