Feral Heart

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Title: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: A.P.S. on July 10, 2019, 09:54:52 pm
So this is more of a question than maybe suggestion, but since so many people, including myself honestly, want some kind of new animal, the question is, which would be first, if any? This is a question of what people want to see first rather than what they think they'll see first.

I wouldn't blame staff if they felt the animals already given are enough, take too much time, or would break the feel, but it also wouldn't shock me by any means if it's been discussed already because of the amount of people who want some kind of new species to play as.

These things would take time to model, animate/rig, and texture, and can't be done in just a day, so which one would be top priority?

Thank you for reading and any input. If staff needs to move this because it might seem off topic, I understand, but I thought this would be hopefully the most fitting. ^v^
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: snappyhyena on July 10, 2019, 10:46:59 pm
If bunnies or hares got added i'd make one IMMEDIATELY and become obsessed with it. they're just.. i love them.
though, for the convenience of the entire game, one of the first things to add that would make the most significant change is admittedly hooved animals like bovines and equines. (either way, i'm still strongly rooting for lagomorph friends)
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: turtlies on July 10, 2019, 10:51:14 pm
Personally I'd love to see a goat model, but that's a bit more niche compared to canines/felines so I'm a bit doubtful of that haha, unless they added just a general hooved animal model (but it's pretty difficult to accompany a lot of different animals that fall under that category)

A bird model seems pretty reasonable for a new addition, though. It's pretty hard to make a bird using the canine or feline models... the four legs and paws break the immersion a bit.
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: snappyhyena on July 10, 2019, 10:56:54 pm
Personally I'd love to see a goat model, but that's a bit more niche compared to canines/felines so I'm a bit doubtful of that haha, unless they added just a general hooved animal model (but it's pretty difficult to accompany a lot of different animals that fall under that category)

A bird model seems pretty reasonable for a new addition, though. It's pretty hard to make a bird using the canine or feline models... the four legs and paws break the immersion a bit.

sorry for immediately +1ing you but i'm gonna have to second you on adding goats. second to my wish for bunnies is my wish for goats (or at least some deer-like model with an option for goat ears) !
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: Kerriki on July 10, 2019, 11:15:35 pm
Moving this over to the game discussion board since it feels a bit more like a discussion thread c:
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: BirdieBeep on July 10, 2019, 11:31:58 pm
Horses for sure.
I wanna trample my friends c:
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: LunaLanturn on July 11, 2019, 12:02:04 am
Personally, I believe birds would be a fun addition. Most games like FH that promised birds never really made it past demos and the such, so my poor lil heart is still holding out for one that finally makes it. I wanna make an owl or a raven and fly around ;v;

One thing that might be cool to add with birds though is the ability to actually land on other players- but with that you'd need to add collision to characters (instead of just walking right through them) so that probably wouldn't happen :') Along with probably changing up the movement system for flying so it feels a bit better as you fly- like, a bird probably couldn't do a total 180 in place :')
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: Ellen11v on July 11, 2019, 12:03:44 am
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/022/580/629/0a06c5d1ae7b18f4337864e688b1912e_original.jpg?ixlib=rb-2.1.0&w=680&fit=max&v=1537197161&auto=format&gif-q=50&q=92&s=89ddf8f2a849762fa63dede8a7fcac3b)
Reptiles, because there are all kinds of animals and fantasy creatures that reptiles could disguise as, just like some people use canines to make horse characters, a reptile can vary tons of character species! The reptile model could be used to make a dragon, snake, crocodile, dinosaur, or even just cute small lizards! On top of that, its skin material that makes it unique from the two other species opens a door to a whole other side of creativity for people to possess, because on default its skin are textured as scales, and not pelt :)

On the other hand, I personally just love dragons. That would be the first kind of character that I would create if the reptile model were to be implemented.
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: Bloo. on July 11, 2019, 12:05:17 am
My vote is definitely for birds haha I always loved the Fly Like a Bird games and imagine how roleplays would "soar"! You'd get Rio, Guardians Ga'Hoole, and Angry Birds roleplays everywhere!!

*silently chanting* guardians guardians guardians
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: Azurain on July 11, 2019, 12:24:38 am
To be really honest, I think FeralHeart is totally fine the way it is. It's always been canine and feline based and honestly I think that's how it should stay, but I mean I'm not against new species. Deer would be pretty heckin neato to see.
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: zRichtofen on July 11, 2019, 12:42:46 am
Hyenas because their forms are so different, and they are not classified as canines.
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: Windstrider on July 11, 2019, 02:08:35 am
Goats and horses would be pretty cool! As for different caniforms and feliforms, maybe some that are slightly different (wouldn't require a ton of differences but would be distinct), like maybe mer-animals (fins for manes and tufts, and aquatic tails, webbed paws).
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: Siarczek on July 11, 2019, 03:02:46 am
I'd like if Feral Heart stuck to the theme of Carnivoran mammals, and the next I'd like to see would be hyenas or bears.

Things like horses, bird, and especially dragons just would feel a bit out of place for me, personally.
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: Windstrider on July 11, 2019, 03:46:09 am
I definitely prefer carnivores. But imagine a screaming goat noise for the goat's 'roar' option. xD Even just as a joke, it'd be kinda amusing. Jokes aside, I love the idea of bears and hyenas tho; I haven't really seen those anywhere in games.
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: A.P.S. on July 11, 2019, 04:40:29 am
Eeeee thank you guys so much for all the replies! ;w; I was shocked when I checked at how there were already two pages and seeing all your opinions really got me thinking about the best choice for a first animal if there was one, despite being way too biased for loving my little birdy buddies.

I would love to see foxes.

But as you said adding a new species would take up a lot of time, so it's not a priority right now. (But who knows what comes in the future am I right? ;) )

Thank ye for seeing this! I'd much rather have any bugs sorted out and all kinds of new abilities added before this, so take all the time you need! Fox/Fox like models would help a lot with people trying to make those kinds of animals, being the current canine model looks in my opinion much more like a coyote to me.

Personally, I believe birds would be a fun addition. Most games like FH that promised birds never really made it past demos and the such, so my poor lil heart is still holding out for one that finally makes it. I wanna make an owl or a raven and fly around ;v;

One thing that might be cool to add with birds though is the ability to actually land on other players- but with that you'd need to add collision to characters (instead of just walking right through them) so that probably wouldn't happen :') Along with probably changing up the movement system for flying so it feels a bit better as you fly- like, a bird probably couldn't do a total 180 in place :')
A bird model seems pretty reasonable for a new addition, though. It's pretty hard to make a bird using the canine or feline models... the four legs and paws break the immersion a bit.
Yeeee birds deserve more love. Landing on players would be cool as long as people didn't abuse it perhaps, being a lot of people already sit in groups together. Also there are birds known for sitting on animals and I believe eating bugs off of them, so it would make a lot of sense too!

It's actually almost a bit hard picturing birds in Feral-Heart without thinking of weird looking presets or the canine-into-bird look, heh.

Moving this over to the game discussion board since it feels a bit more like a discussion thread c:

Alright! Thank you.

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/022/580/629/0a06c5d1ae7b18f4337864e688b1912e_original.jpg?ixlib=rb-2.1.0&w=680&fit=max&v=1537197161&auto=format&gif-q=50&q=92&s=89ddf8f2a849762fa63dede8a7fcac3b)
Reptiles, because there are all kinds of animals and fantasy creatures that a reptiles could disguise as, just like some people use canines to make horse characters, a reptile can vary tons of character species! The reptile model could be used to make a dragon, snake, crocodile, dinosaur, or even just cute small lizards! On top of that, its skin material that makes it unique from the two other species opens a door to a whole other side of creativity for people to possess, because on default its skin are textured as scales, and not pelt :)

On the other hand, I personally just love dragons. That would be the first kind of character that I would create if the reptile model were to be implemented.

Goats and horses would be pretty cool! As for different caniforms and feliforms, maybe some that are slightly different (wouldn't require a ton of differences but would be distinct), like maybe mer-animals (fins for manes and tufts, and aquatic tails, webbed paws).

Yessss, reptiles would open up so much more to character creation, and I think by far is the best choice for what's added first for creative reasons.

It would be nice if on reptile models, webbing and fins replace the manes and tuffs. Feathers would be interesting too as many dragon characters use feathers, like this for example:
(https://img00.deviantart.net/0fb2/i/2013/168/c/5/feather_dragon_by_geripon-d69j64z.jpg)

To be really honest, I think FeralHeart is totally fine the way it is. It's always been canine and feline based and honestly I think that's how it should stay, but I mean I'm not against new species. Deer would be pretty heckin neato to see.

Ye, I understand that completely, even if it might be an unpopular choice and maybe not my entire feeling, but I do agree in some ways with it. The feel of Feral-Heart to me is very much with felines and canines, and having another animal does feel kinda strange, but I'd also be really excited to see new ones.

Again, thank ye all for the replies! I'm sorry they're out of order since I had both pages' tabs open and was scrolling up and down, but I hope this shows more about how I feel on the subject!
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: G4RG0YLE on July 11, 2019, 08:24:07 am
Ants.
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: Ellen11v on July 11, 2019, 11:11:19 am
Refrain from posting the same thread anywhere, even in different boards: The Third Species (https://feral-heart.com/smf/index.php?topic=58317.0) C:
But here is this poll that already shows a decent statistic ;3;
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: VortexAlive on July 11, 2019, 11:14:44 am
Dragons would be lovely!
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: snappyhyena on July 11, 2019, 12:07:11 pm
i know this is about my third time posting in this thread because i am almost ALL FOR adding new animals, but... as i'm caught up in that excitement, now i'm starting to think about a few things. how would they really look in the game? who edited or made the feline/canine models, and would that same person be there to help the creation of future animals? if not, then would the "style" of the existing models have to be mimicked for that model? would the model be accurate to it's real-life counterpart or would it end up looking questionable? would the model's final product and animations satisfy or disappoint those who wanted it?
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: monsteropera on July 11, 2019, 09:25:35 pm
dragons, equines, cervids, avians...i want it all haha!!
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: turtlies on July 11, 2019, 09:30:53 pm
i know this is about my third time posting in this thread because i am almost ALL FOR adding new animals, but... as i'm caught up in that excitement, now i'm starting to think about a few things. how would they really look in the game? who edited or made the feline/canine models, and would that same person be there to help the creation of future animals? if not, then would the "style" of the existing models have to be mimicked for that model? would the model be accurate to it's real-life counterpart or would it end up looking questionable? would the model's final product and animations satisfy or disappoint those who wanted it?

Tbh I'd personally want to see a complete revamp of the canine and feline models since they can be a bit... off in a few parts. Though that's kind of a massive undertaking so I'm doubtful it'd happen, but it might work better to have one person working on all the models to provide some consistency. But if not, any new models would probably try and stick to the cartoony style... just hopefully with slightly better anatomy lmao
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: Jango_Fett on July 15, 2019, 02:51:45 pm
give me a hyena base or give me death
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: wolfdog01 on July 15, 2019, 03:55:43 pm
Fish plz.
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: Lady_Alizarin on July 15, 2019, 04:51:07 pm
Bears!
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: A.P.S. on July 15, 2019, 07:18:24 pm
Ants.
Ants.

Give me an ant model and I swear lol
I support this- there's one on KITO somewhere.

Refrain from posting the same thread anywhere, even in different boards: The Third Species (https://feral-heart.com/smf/index.php?topic=58317.0) C:
But here is this poll that already shows a decent statistic ;3;
Sorry- I didn't see this. Thank you though! Keeping the conversation active will help too.
i know this is about my third time posting in this thread because i am almost ALL FOR adding new animals, but... as i'm caught up in that excitement, now i'm starting to think about a few things. how would they really look in the game? who edited or made the feline/canine models, and would that same person be there to help the creation of future animals? if not, then would the "style" of the existing models have to be mimicked for that model? would the model be accurate to it's real-life counterpart or would it end up looking questionable? would the model's final product and animations satisfy or disappoint those who wanted it?
i know this is about my third time posting in this thread because i am almost ALL FOR adding new animals, but... as i'm caught up in that excitement, now i'm starting to think about a few things. how would they really look in the game? who edited or made the feline/canine models, and would that same person be there to help the creation of future animals? if not, then would the "style" of the existing models have to be mimicked for that model? would the model be accurate to it's real-life counterpart or would it end up looking questionable? would the model's final product and animations satisfy or disappoint those who wanted it?

Tbh I'd personally want to see a complete revamp of the canine and feline models since they can be a bit... off in a few parts. Though that's kind of a massive undertaking so I'm doubtful it'd happen, but it might work better to have one person working on all the models to provide some consistency. But if not, any new models would probably try and stick to the cartoony style... just hopefully with slightly better anatomy lmao
Yeah, I've been wondering about the style.Like birds have such different, tiny eyes. it's look too cartoony when matching the eyes, but too off if we didn't. Having only two legs would be weird too.

Our best option would be to either copy the style or revamp the models completely, but that would take a lot of time. However, as said before, this isn't a priority, so getting it pushed back to when more work can be spent on these kinda things would make it a lot calmer process.
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: snappyhyena on July 15, 2019, 07:59:46 pm
@ everyone asking for a hyena model - i was too afraid to say it but dang you're right. the canine body is way too slim for that, hyenas have more of a round and stiff shape, not sure how to describe it. but who knows, someone might come out and rant about how it's too close to the canine model or something

so far my vote is still on lagomorphs, i'll fight for them. im kinda sad now that there's only 2 votes though :'D
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: A.P.S. on July 15, 2019, 09:15:26 pm
I actually voted for reptiles because I believed they were one of the best choices for the first animal to be added, birds being a very close second, partially because of my love for them.
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: Morqque on July 15, 2019, 11:19:32 pm
Honestly, I believe that new models would be added for the most popular species such as cats, hyenas, foxes, or any other type under the category. As for something new, i can see a bird model being added, or a griffin or sorts. The Feral Heart icon has three paws. What could the third be?
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: gh0ul on July 16, 2019, 01:27:18 pm
Birds are master race (they used to be dinosaurs)
Title: Re: IF New Animals Were Added, Which One Would Be First?
Post by: Wyldercat on July 16, 2019, 10:41:37 pm
I would love to see some mustelids or small carnivores. Some kind of amorphous weasel model that can be a skinny ferret or a bulky wolverine. The canine model already covers hyenas, but a small carnivore model could possibly make a more realistic one. Or little aardwolves. <3