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Game & Forum Discussion => Game Discussion => Game Suggestions & Ideas => Topic started by: Valar.Morghulis on November 21, 2018, 10:11:23 am

Title: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: Valar.Morghulis on November 21, 2018, 10:11:23 am
I was looking through some mods and noticed that there are a few tail mods available out there.
The one that I liked the most was Ruby's canine tail for felines mod.
It looks very much like a cat tail and there are a lot of warrior cat RPers in the game, so having a tail like this, in the official Update would definitely be of use.

Currently we have the ''Tailess'' option in the character creator, which is not really a no tail option, it's rather the same as the Lynx tail.
So, switching that with the ''Tailess'' and changing the name would be cool.

Now of course, you'll either need her approval for this, or create a custom one from the canine model, as she said that this mod is only put on the feline skeleton, from the canine model.

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''But it's here now, and it uses the feline skeleton, so no need to worry about it being buggy. c:''

Here's a preview of her mod, along with the link to the original post (click on the photo):

(https://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/299/b/9/_mod____canine_tail_for_felines___feralheart_by_xruby1234x-d6ruw4h.png) (https://feral-heart.com/smf/index.php?topic=34433.msg473508#msg473508)



So, what do you think about this?
It seems like a possible thing to do. And we don't have any use of the ''Tailess'' mod anyways.
I'd definitely use this a lot if it were available as an official thing from FH ^^ c:
Title: Re: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: gh0ul on November 21, 2018, 01:03:50 pm
That looks like a nice idea, this would be used for characters to show that the tail is fluffier I guess?
Title: Re: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: Arandomperson on November 21, 2018, 01:08:05 pm
I want a super duper fluffy tail! Like at least as long as the char model! Because Go fluffy or go home! Like this first picture of this tail
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/57/53/35/575335fdb5f6763e972e621df21c46d4--drawing-tips-drawing-tutorials.jpg
Title: Re: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: Valar.Morghulis on November 21, 2018, 01:08:46 pm
Quote from: Lotorshot on November 21, 2018, 01:03:50 pm
That looks like a nice idea, this would be used for characters to show that the tail is fluffier I guess?

Most likely. It would definitely be useful for people who have perhaps longhaired cats as characters.
Title: Re: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: Azurain on November 21, 2018, 03:03:12 pm
I too like the idea. I know it's possible to replace tails, but is it possible to make more tail options? I know you can add markings and items, but no idea if the same can be said for tails.
Title: Re: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: Morqque on November 21, 2018, 05:04:00 pm
I approve of this idea. Simple name file changing would never do any harm. But, adding completely new tails or updating old ones officially could throw people off. So if that were the case, I suppose a poll would be good.
It isn't possible to make more tail options due to the lack of the source code. But it is possible to make more tails and have members replace the original ones...pretty Much the same thing that's been goingg on for years, haha
Title: Re: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: LonesomeRider on November 21, 2018, 05:12:24 pm
As mentioned by Morqque, adding official tail options and changing names is impossible with the lack of the game's source code. Of course, it can simply be added on as a mod like your everyday mod used, but doing this would definitely require permission to allow 200+ members to have it off the bat, without needing to download it themselves.
Nevertheless, it is a nice idea, though people also use the thick tail option.
Title: Re: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: Valar.Morghulis on November 21, 2018, 05:19:51 pm
Thank you for the replies guys.

Although,  I wasn't talking about the thick tail being replaced, but the "Tailess" mod which is a lynx tail with a different name. If possible, that last tail could be used for something else (this idea or similar), instead of having two same tails with a different name
Title: Re: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: Valar.Morghulis on June 06, 2019, 09:33:34 am
Bumping this~

There are two exactly the same feline tail options, the Lynx tail and Tailess. There is no difference between them, so with that in mind, I think it shouldn't be an issue to replace the 'Tailess' with what is mentioned in the thread, as it was done before.
I'm curious to see what more people think of this idea. ^^
Title: Re: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: A.P.S. on June 06, 2019, 12:36:15 pm
Thank ye for the bump!

Personally, I'd rather have the tailess tail actually be no tail, or change it to something like this. Although, I'd rather it be puffier like Arandomperson said:
Quote from: Arandomperson on November 21, 2018, 01:08:05 pm
I want a super duper fluffy tail! Like at least as long as the char model! Because Go fluffy or go home! Like this first picture of this tail
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/57/53/35/575335fdb5f6763e972e621df21c46d4--drawing-tips-drawing-tutorials.jpg

I think reusing the canine tail would be weird, and there are certainly going to be people out there willing to make a brand new floofy tail for the official game. At least, I hope.

I'd be up to replace the tailess tail with just about any tail, honestly, but this idea has been my favorite tail I've seen for this situation.
Title: Re: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: FlyingGrass on June 06, 2019, 02:23:48 pm
I once tried to replace the tail mesh with a stopsign mesh, but it crashed, I did do it quite lazily though, I only plonked the stopsign mesh into the Models folder and renamed it to a tail.

Some other wacky tail ideas: A mechanical-looking tail... A sword tail... A spear tail... And a cactus tail.
Title: Re: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: Morqque on June 06, 2019, 09:29:35 pm
Personally, I see no issues with completely reworking the models (hair, tufts, ears, eyes, and tails) as well as the animations
into a public revamp. It is possible as multiple creators have done it in the past. It will make FeralHeart a bit less dull. We've already got this board here (https://feral-heart.com/smf/index.php?board=164.0) but I've yet to see anything besides member made maps being added officially.
Title: Re: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: Peachii on June 06, 2019, 09:41:05 pm
it would be great like , a lynx tail on a canine :p
Title: Re: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: A.P.S. on June 06, 2019, 11:09:06 pm
Quote from: FlyingGrass on June 06, 2019, 02:23:48 pm
Some other wacky tail ideas: A mechanical-looking tail... A sword tail... A spear tail... And a cactus tail.

Not to put these down completely, but I feel these would clash with the other tails and feel of Feral-Heart. That's not to say I wouldn't enjoy seeing them in general, but maybe not for this.

Quote from: Morqque on June 06, 2019, 09:29:35 pm
Personally, I see no issues with completely reworking the models (hair, tufts, ears, eyes, and tails) as well as the animations
into a public revamp. It is possible as multiple creators have done it in the past. It will make FeralHeart a bit less dull. We've already got this board here (https://feral-heart.com/smf/index.php?board=164.0) but I've yet to see anything besides member made maps being added officially.

Yee, things (like more official markings and items though) have been suggested in the past, and I believe many users would get together to help with that. Of course, we're limited without the source code and all that stuff, but that's not to say we can't replace what we have now.

Problem is, many people would probably have to rework their presets, some commissioned, others having spent days or even longer on it, so I could see people not wanting that revamp solely based off of that.
Title: Re: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: VortexAlive on June 07, 2019, 02:43:27 am
I think having a super fluffy tail as a replacement for the duplicate 'tailess' option would be awesome! c:
Title: Re: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: Kuri on June 07, 2019, 08:39:25 pm
You might have noticed the sickle tail is a barely animated mesh that appears to be tied to the skeleton at it's base.
I am pretty sure i can craft a mesh & UV for a fluffy tail.  But i'm not good at tying it to the skeleton yet, other people can, as it's known.
The only part the community can't do very easily is alter the name of the tail in the creation menu.
Title: Re: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: Katy45 on June 27, 2019, 01:13:08 pm
I think it would be a great idea indeed! :D ;D
Title: Re: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: A.P.S. on July 15, 2019, 09:33:02 pm
Hey, we have the source code now, sooo...

We could now add tails if I'm correct, and the tailless tail is now tailless, so it'd be nice to see some new stuff for the models! I'd love more ear options for canines, too.

Just thought I'd give this a little bump since the source code is available now. ^ยท^
Title: Re: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: Kerriki on July 15, 2019, 11:07:44 pm
Agreed, new tails are definitely needed c:
Title: Re: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: Morqque on July 15, 2019, 11:36:31 pm
Well, look what is certainly possible now!
Title: Re: Adding a new tail in game?
Post by: A.P.S. on July 16, 2019, 12:48:52 am
If anyone here is possibly able to do this, could some sketches for ideas maybe be added? Or, at the very least, finding images online that are good?