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Just curious. XD What does it mean?
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You could say its like a forum reputation thing. Once you reach 25 posts you can Bite or Nuzzle someone, bite makes the number go down by one and nuzzle does the opposite. You can get "points" for doing good things like helping others and stuff.
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Same thing as karma used to be. Just a new, more creative, and less serious name. xD
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Wtf is Floof O Meter? + Whut? = Its karma.. BUT EPIC!
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I don't seem to have the bite function, I just noticed recently, is it deliberate or a glitch?
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deliberate.
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I don't seem to have the bite function, I just noticed recently, is it deliberate or a glitch?
Same Problem.
And im REALY angry, 'cause: I had 10 karma points, and now i have 0 "Floofs"!
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That would mean you had -10 karma points. Because all they did was take away the bite function and rename the Karma to Floofs.
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Aye. Even if we removed the bite option, any old bites and nuzzles will still remain so no ones count is even effected by this change..
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Okie Please the one who thought of ''Floof-O-Meter'' was a GENIUS. Okie i will give atealst 4 nuzzles for such a good name, It makes mah eyes glitter of OMG. Nice idea Nice idea forum!
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That is good to know Red, but is there a reason for the bite function to be removed? Were people abusing it? People biting others because they just had low karma?
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Not really that much, there's been cases in the past but it wasn't removed due to users doing it this time around. Was more to please the majority of the users who is unhappy about the negative karma option. The most cases I've seen users having negative karma on the forum it's mostly because of plain out stupid or rude comments or other rule breaking of the boards, but this way a users are not able to judge other members by their negative karma.
We will try out the karma system like this for a while and see how it goes.
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I understand Red, though I don't really like the sound of the idea, just my honest opinion, we can see how it goes though.
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Yeah it's actually a really good idea.
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Interesting concept.It is more peaceful
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I like what they did
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Yea, I love the Floof-O-Meter. XD
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Yea, I love the Floof-O-Meter. XD
Yep & I nuzzle you
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Honestly I think Biting would cause a lot of stress on the forums.
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Honestly I think Biting would cause a lot of stress on the forums.
This.
But it seems a bit unfair in a way. Mods were able to see if people were trolls or being too immature with the bite function, but people were abusing it and probably had to go.
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That is a good point.
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Honestly I think Biting would cause a lot of stress on the forums.
This.
But it seems a bit unfair in a way. Mods were able to see if people were trolls or being too immature with the bite function, but people were abusing it and probably had to go.
But that's not the reason it had to go. there actually weren't any issues with abusing it, it's just that people complained about the fact it was possible for people to abuse it.
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I love the new name of the 'karma' meter, and I like the fact that the 'bite' function was taken away. This way, it's a lot less serious (and much more cute! :3 ) and even if nobody abused the bite function in the first place, now nobody will get the chance to.
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But that's not the reason it had to go. there actually weren't any issues with abusing it, it's just that people complained about the fact it was possible for people to abuse it.
Ah, I understand. People can abuse it.
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It would have been hard to abuse it anyway. You can only bite once per 24 hours, AND if you make a new account you HAVE to reach a certain amount of posts before you can actually use the karma, well, floof now, so using multiple accounts to attack someones karma is a hard thing to do.
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oops
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Nevermind just saw the post and derp it would have if they ahd already had multiple accounts and such. that already had the required amounts of posts to use what we call floof now. so derp it woud have been easy to abuse it red cause majority of users already have multi accounts.
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Yeah, at first I thought the Floof-O-Meter was bad and I was like "D: But I never do anything bad! I might've broken the rules on accident but I try as hard as I can to follow them!" But now I know :3 Thanks.
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Nevermind just saw the post and derp it would have if they ahd already had multiple accounts and such. that already had the required amounts of posts to use what we call floof now. so derp it woud have been easy to abuse it red cause majority of users already have multi accounts.
But how many of them go around using multiple accounts to hold conversations in the parts of FH that actually counts towards your post count? Not many. I have one or two, but that is because one was broken, so ever since I have had it I have been unable to use it (and it annoyingly enough has the same in game name and forum name, so I do have issues with PMing it instead of me) And the other I made for the fun of it, and never really used. I wouldn't log into one, log out, and into another, just to hold conversations. It would take a very dedicated person to do that, and if they were so into it, so into biting and attacking another, they would more than likely be caught.
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Biting is stupid O.o What do the Floofs/Karmas matter? Sure, they show that you're helpful and all, but it's not like you lose 100 dollars when someone bites you, and get 100 when someone nuzzles you.
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Biting is stupid O.o What do the Floofs/Karmas matter? Sure, they show that you're helpful and all, but it's not like you lose 100 dollars when someone bites you, and get 100 when someone nuzzles you.
For me it is a case of control. Not me controlling others, but controlling my own anger. My usual steps to take when someone on FH starts to get to me is take a deep breathe, hit the bite button, and leave it at that (unless it is something I HAVE to reply to). If I do that, I feel fine, and the anger goers away.
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they don't really i ahve negative six floof i don't really care to be honest. if we got some kind of incentive to use the floofy meter then maybe it would be worth using. but right now it's not all that worth it. one word kyugima yoga it helps me.
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It's not that simple. For one, why in the world would I go to yoga for being angry with someone online. secondly, no one is the same. I hate human contact, Yoga sure isn't going to help when I start getting very peeved with someone for something they've said and I let everything out and get myself banned or something is it now? My only floodgate was that habit I worked hard to imprint on myself. Breath, bite, and leave it be. The things that work for you will NOT work for me, it'll probably stress me more and cause me to freak out more easily. Simple. IT WILL NOT WORK.
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For me it is a case of control. Not me controlling others, but controlling my own anger. My usual steps to take when someone on FH starts to get to me is take a deep breathe, hit the bite button, and leave it at that (unless it is something I HAVE to reply to). If I do that, I feel fine, and the anger goers away.
Kyugima...
I am surprised you also do this.
Biting people is a way to keep my cool and not get pissed off and ''rage''.
It is a good way to express your thoughts also. But I respect if it was taken down.
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How did this turn from a question about a thing on the forums, into two people arguing with each other about anger?
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I replied to them ONCE. How does that make it an argument? Really, someone sees someone disagreeing with what someone says, and instantly it HAS to be a fight because it's the internet? THAT IS NOT AN ARGUMENT. I caps when I want to make a point, not because I'm "shouting". Please, move on, and don't try to make people out for arguing when someone posted once and someone did a single reply to their statement. That's not an argument what so ever.
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Just because someone disagrees with someone does not make it an argument. It looks like a typical discussion between two opinions to my. Nothing wrong with two opposing ideas, and I don't see any insults flying around...
I personally bite to relieve anger at people as well. I don't have enough space to pull out and do yoga every time I get frustrated, not that ot happens ofteb
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This thread got reported. I cant see why since this a forum and things are here to be discused.
I read the thread and there is no argument, just people who tell what they do or how they handle it, and thats their right, if someone doesnt agree there is nothing to do about it.
If this goes out of hand, please request it to be closed next time by directly contacting a mod or admin.
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Okay.
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Um... okay :D;; Moving on from the... chat.. thing...
Floof-O-Meter is a great name :3
Makes it sound less serious <.< >.>
And I don't know what to say about the "Bite" function. .3.
Yus, like those people up above me explained, they used it to... keep their cool o3o Not sure if that's a good or bad thing.
But I'm mostly happy, because people were biting other people they just didn't like, not for any real reason. :I
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The only reason I would bite someone was because they either weren't honest or/and did something bad
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The only reason I would bite someone was because they either weren't honest or/and did something bad
I agree, but someone may be in a fight and might just decide to bite them constantly to troll them. Or people are just trolls.
I am honestly surprised that this topic has gone on for so long. =)
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The only reason I would bite someone was because they either weren't honest or/and did something bad
I agree, but someone may be in a fight and might just decide to bite them constantly to troll them. Or people are just trolls.
I am honestly surprised that this topic has gone on for so long. =)
I agree, but for a person getting bite when they did nothing is wrong, this is what they meant by "abusing" it. I believe this was a factor of why it was removed, in which I'm glad.
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I agree with SilverTW. People may look bad because of their Floof-O-Meter, which may make no one want to meet them. Then multiple things could happen:
1. They leave the site because they feel cheated, causing the community to lose a member.
2. They actually do get really cranky about the meter and get in trouble for rudeness/being mean/ etc.
3. They feel like no one wants them on the site, so they get inactive.
I think it's justified to remove biting.
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I agree with SilverTW. People may look bad because of their Floof-O-Meter, which may make no one want to meet them. Then multiple things could happen:
1. They leave the site because they feel cheated, causing the community to lose a member.
2. They actually do get really cranky about the meter and get in trouble for rudeness/being mean/ etc.
3. They feel like no one wants them on the site, so they get inactive.
I think it's justified to remove biting.
I agree ^^ The biting really wasn't really necessary and besides, if you don't like what someone did, just simply not give them a... Floof point? Lol. Floof-O-Meter is a more creative name to go by than plain 'Karma' :D Nice work staff!!!
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Yeah :D
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The biting really wasn't really necessary and besides, if you don't like what someone did, just simply not give them a... Floof point? Lol. Floof-O-Meter is a more creative name to go by than plain 'Karma' :D Nice work staff!!!
I disagree. Not giving them a floof point doesn't work for me, You think I'm just going to sit around in the case of someone stealing and doing things wrong, ignore it, and just accept the fact that others are giving them nuzzles for things they didn't actually make? Am I meant to not show my disappointment of someone being rude on FH? Someone swore in a thread earlier, I wanted to bite them to show there were repercussions for their actions. Since the bite is gone I have noticed some people being more rude, because no one can do anything about it, they can't have their karma lowered. While getting rid of the bite function wasn't a bad idea, it wasn't exactly a good one either.
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Report them to a mod/admin. SImple solution if someone does something bad.
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I think kyugima mean rude posts in general or things that doesn't really go against the rules. Mods and admins cannot really ban users just because they dislike some of the things they do or say unless it goes against the board rules.
Someone might for example ignore information posted, post sarcastic or pointless comments that's not really enough for anything at all but annoyance. I'm not sure how kyu and the other mods would be able to report tiny things to themselves xD
So if you spend a lot of time on the boards dealing with different kinds of users, chances are you will bump into someone that just do actions or post things that aren't really welcomed or liked due to lack of forum manners, but unless it's breaking rules such as swearing, spamming, racist etc. It will still be posted since everything can't be removed.
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Okay. I think I understand a bit more.
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I have to side with Kyugima on one point
I think the loss of the karma and the bite option will make users feel more like they can be rude, or make comments on posts that they might have been warded of to do so before. People are more likely to say what they really mean; which in one case may be good for the "discussion" side of things, but could also lead to the clashing of opinion and ideas in a bad way.
The bite option was a subtle and yet somewhat effective way for users to reprimand their fellow players for things they didn't agree with. And while I think the name change will be effective, I also believe that it was better to have had it.
As for those who feel it /could/ be abused, the once every twenty-four hour things seemed pretty effective. Not to mention if one felt their once-karma points were being eaten away at, they could have alerted a staff member, if it continued, I'm satisfied it could have been dealt with. But really, I don't know what kind of pathetic person would come onto the forums every day to bite at a user's points just out of spite or distaste. It's a pointless means to get back at someone, or at least, this is how I view it.
I never really paid much attention to the entire system, mostly because I know where and who my karma's coming from. However, when scrolling through threads, I did give the occasional nuzzle to someone who made a good point, or bit at someone who was indeed saying "hey, i can say this, so i'm going to say it" and their manner of saying so was less to be desired.
i feel it was a system that was okay where it was at, though I never really cared one way or another for it, i think for the majority, it was effective and to the point.
the only thing i could think of to ward of naysayers about the abuse, would coding be possible to stop the count from going below zero /with/ the bite option in place?
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However, they did not remove the Karma.(Nuzzle/Floof-O-Meter)
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In a sense, they did. It's no longer the same thing. The idea of "karma" and the option to bite are gone. It's replaced with a totally different idea.
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That is what I have been trying to say, the bite function is in some point a way for the community to ''correct'' users and their wrongdoings.
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uhhh, i think is better to directly say what they done wrong than simply rage biting.
One user can do many posts around and never know why it get a bite and in what post.
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In most cases, it's not to hard to figure out where you might have lost a karma. Generally people only get a "bite" for comments that go against a majority, are rude, or are plain bashing.
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uhhh, i think is better to directly say what they done wrong than simply rage biting.
One user can do many posts around and never know why it get a bite and in what post.
I must agree with Theiry, you don't HAVE to rage at a user, just simply tell them what's wrong with what they did.
I actually really like how the name has been changed, and how you can only nuzzle someone.
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It's awesome! Now people can't bite and hurt other members feelings and only nuzzle with love xD
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