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Help & Guidance => Member Made Tutorials => Mapping Tutorials => Topic started by: Wildcat26 on February 23, 2011, 08:51:23 am

Title: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/7-Terrain Mask in GIMP.
Post by: Wildcat26 on February 23, 2011, 08:51:23 am
If there is a better place for this, mods feel free to move.
~Wild's Map-making Tutorials~
I will be posting video tuts on FH map-making here; from height maps all the way to getting your maps in-game for others to see.

2/23~Height map in GIMP tutorial is up!
4/24~Heightmap in Photoshop tutorial is up!
4/27~Getting heightmap in-game & Getting heightmap in-game-Crashes Tutorials are up!
5/5~Terrain Mask in Photoshop tutorial up!
5/7~Terrain Mask in GIMP tutorial up!



If these videos help you in map making, please rate it up, so I know it's doing good and I will continue to make them! :3


This is my first time making  tutorials, so I know these are far from professional.  I just hope that maybe these will help those who are wanting to make maps and still have trouble with just the text tutorials.

WC<3
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP
Post by: Wildcat26 on February 23, 2011, 08:51:39 am

~Height Map in GIMP~
Feral Heart Map-making Tutorials~Heightmap in GIMP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW06Rat6lq0#ws)
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~Height Map in Photoshop~
(Note: Click the video, the link to part 2 is in the description.)
Feral Heart Map-making Tutorials- Heightmap in Photoshop- Part1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17MknSBiG64#ws)
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~Getting Height Map in-game~
Feral Heart Map-making Tutorials~ Getting Heightmaps In-game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otTK6lHFglM#ws)
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~Getting Height Map in-game-Crashes~
Feral Heart Map-making Tutorials~Getting Heightmap In-game-Crashes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlML6l7z-VE#ws)
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~Terain Mask in Photoshop~
(Note: Click the video, the link to part 2 is in the description.)
Feral Heart Map-making Tutorials~Terrain Mask in Photoshop Part1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-n7n_JNmso#ws)
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~Terain Mask in GIMP~
(Note: Click the video, the link to part 2 is in the description.)
Feral Heart Map-making Tutorials~Terrain Mask in GIMP-Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1HLjeownUs#ws)
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP
Post by: Wildcat26 on February 23, 2011, 08:52:08 am
Mine! Just in case ;)

You can post now.
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 4/24
Post by: Wildcat26 on April 24, 2011, 09:19:41 pm
Photoshop heightmap tut is up. :3
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 4/24-Photoshop heightmap.
Post by: slycan on April 24, 2011, 10:14:30 pm
Me move this to help section and stickie (: ?
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 4/24-Photoshop heightmap.
Post by: Panshjo on April 25, 2011, 06:17:37 pm
awesome! :D im making one right now
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 4/24-Photoshop heightmap.
Post by: Wildcat26 on April 25, 2011, 08:49:28 pm
Me move this to help section and stickie (: ?
If you think it's good enough and deserves a place there, then sure! :D Thank you very much Sly. <3
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awesome! :D im making one right now

Thanks :3 I think they're so much fun to make :D


I do really hope this helps people make their own maps.

I've lost count how many players I've talked to who have said they "can't make maps", "Don't know how", "it too hard" "it's difficult and cunfusing", or "The text tut confuses me". :-\ And all the threads and players I've seen/talked to with heightmap and map sharing issues or game crashes.

I know me, for some things, actually seeing it help me understand thing so much better. ::)

Hopefully my comp won't die on me before I get a new one, so it won't be so long before the next vids are up. >.<
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 4/24-Photoshop heightmap.
Post by: Redlinelies on April 26, 2011, 01:27:09 am
Even though this is very helpful for some I get a slight doubt it we need to put it as a sticky in the main help section, just to avoid building up a ladder with threads again and keeping a focus one just a few ones.
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 4/24-Photoshop heightmap.
Post by: slycan on April 26, 2011, 01:40:19 am
okays Red
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 4/24-Photoshop heightmap.
Post by: Panshjo on April 26, 2011, 07:04:49 pm
It worked! :D actually very simple to make!

Thanks.

(lolz sorry for my bad english)

EDIT: And i got it to work in-game xD
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 4/24-Photoshop heightmap.
Post by: Wildcat26 on April 26, 2011, 09:54:39 pm
It worked! :D actually very simple to make!

Thanks.

(lolz sorry for my bad english)

EDIT: And i got it to work in-game xD
Glad it worked! Yes I think they are quite simple and everyone thinks they're so hard. XD

Haha Your English is good. :3

Yes, I know alot of people have issues with that, gonna work on that video today of getting the heightmap in-game. ;)
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 4/27-Getting heightmap in-game.
Post by: Kodiak on May 05, 2011, 07:49:55 pm
Your tutorials are very helpful. I can finally make my own maps x3

but, do you know how to make the ground texture vary? like, instead of having everything green grass, you can have some dirt spots here and there? Sorry if this sounds like a noobish question, but I really can't for the life of me figure it out xD
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/5-Terrain Mask in Photoshop.
Post by: Wildcat26 on May 06, 2011, 12:47:36 am
Terrain Mask in Photoshop tut up!


Your tutorials are very helpful. I can finally make my own maps x3

but, do you know how to make the ground texture vary? like, instead of having everything green grass, you can have some dirt spots here and there? Sorry if this sounds like a noobish question, but I really can't for the life of me figure it out xD
Glad they help and you are making maps now. :3

As for different terrain textures, you have to make a Terrain mask. I just put up the photoshop tut for that, GIMP coming soon. :3
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/5-Terrain Mask in Photoshop.
Post by: slycan on May 06, 2011, 01:29:36 am
I hate how paint.net doesn't export grey-scale :/

Thanks for these videos again, you're helping alot of peeps
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/5-Terrain Mask in Photoshop.
Post by: Kodiak on May 06, 2011, 08:21:29 pm

Glad they help and you are making maps now. :3

As for different terrain textures, you have to make a Terrain mask. I just put up the photoshop tut for that, GIMP coming soon. :3


Ahhh, I see. Thank you very much ^^
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/5-Terrain Mask in Photoshop.
Post by: arcticwarrior on May 06, 2011, 09:50:06 pm
i am making my first map, and i am making it really really really REALLY big. i know, bad idea for a first map... but anyway, how do you make it really pokey, like in reds new map, he/she(what? i dont know!) has these little pokes of dirt everywhere, how do you do that? and how do you make a really big map? i heard that all you do is make your terrain really small, but im afraid that everything will just be really small and i will stay normal size!!
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/7-Terrain Mask in GIMP.
Post by: Wildcat26 on May 07, 2011, 10:48:24 pm
Terrain mask in GIMP is up! :)

i am making my first map, and i am making it really really really REALLY big. i know, bad idea for a first map... but anyway, how do you make it really pokey, like in reds new map, he/she(what? i dont know!) has these little pokes of dirt everywhere, how do you do that? and how do you make a really big map? i heard that all you do is make your terrain really small, but im afraid that everything will just be really small and i will stay normal size!!
First off, it's ok, my first map in IT was  really big too, 26,000. Not big in FH standards, since now we have it so much easier with placing the objects. But back in IT, that was good sized map.
It can be a little daunting at first when you see that big area but, once you learn how things work, you'll be whipping those maps out. XD  

For your first question.
Do you mean like little bumps in the ground of dirt? I'm not sure which map you are referring to. x3

If so, you would need to use your Heightmap and draw them. Start with a brush that has some kind of scatter pattern, or if you have a lot of patience, you can do each little dot. Make the brush size small. Choose a gray color one or 2 shades lighter then your base shade. Paint the area you want to have the bumps. Mess with brushes, the shades of color as well as your map height in-game until you are happy.

I hope that's what you meant.

For the second question.
Ok let me see if I can explain this clear as possible, as I can be confusing. x3

First off the bigger size(how wide you make it) you make you map in-game the wider the terrain features will be. The higher you make your map, the higher your hills will be and deeper your holes will be. So as your map grows, so does the terrain. Does that make sense? When you make your map bigger(wider) it stretches the terrain. To give more height to your hills and depth to your holes, you have to raise your map's height.

I'll post some pictures later if you like. :3

As far as when people say to make your terrain really small, first know, the heightmap picture will always be 513x513 that never changes.
And what they mean is, draw your terrain features smaller on your heightmap. Remember when you make your map bigger, your terrain will stretch. When you want to make smaller terrain features in your map, zoom in to the specific part of the heightmap you are working on. Pretend that the zoomed in part is your whole canvas. You will have to draw your terrain smaller, so once you zoom out, it will be tiny; but once in-game you make your map big, it will be normal sized. If you draw your heightmap and make the terrain big or even normal size, it can end up HUGE when you make your map bigger.

So for :
Small maps=Draw your terrain features bigger.
Big maps=Draw your terrain features smaller.

I hope that made sense. x3



Ahhh, I see. Thank you very much ^^
You're quite welcome. :3




I hate how paint.net doesn't export grey-scale :/

Thanks for these videos again, you're helping alot of peeps

Ah really? I've never used Paint.net. I guess no tuts for that then. ::)

You're welcome and Thanks Sly, it means a lot to hear that.<3 All the comments and rates on the videos from the users make me happy these are doing some good and actually helping people. That was the whole point of this. :3
Cause I remember being that noob without a clue how to start on such things as map making. x3


Long post is long... XD

Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/7-Terrain Mask in GIMP.
Post by: Katwarriorss on May 13, 2011, 03:03:36 pm
For a Terrain mask, what if I want more than 3 terrains? XD
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/7-Terrain Mask in GIMP.
Post by: Sirana on June 09, 2011, 02:10:17 pm
this isn't working for me DX! I try to replace the .png but hten it says i can't because that file is open so then what do i do??????????
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/7-Terrain Mask in GIMP.
Post by: Wildcat26 on June 09, 2011, 07:18:40 pm
For a Terrain mask, what if I want more than 3 terrains? XD
Well you can have up to 6, unfortunately as of right now the 4th, 5th and 6th terrains have this weird glowing effect due to a coding error or something. But if you want more than 3 you would...
Make a 2nd terrain mask, using the same Red, Green, and Blue. If you would only want 4 terrains, you would only use the Red on the 2nd, for 5, Red and Green... and well you get the idea :P
You would then save it .png and in your map folder, just like the first terrain, mapnameMask2.

Then you go in-game, and under the world tab, you would type in your first terrain like normal under the terrain mask box. Then where it has the little arrows to switch which terrain you're on, you would go to 4, then in the box type in your 2nd terrain.

Again it doesn't show correctly as far as I know, and although I have seen where some have gotten it to work, I was never able to. But you could maybe search for terrain mask in the help section.


this isn't working for me DX! I try to replace the .png but then it says i can't because that file is open so then what do i do??????????

For you to be able to save the new file over it, you have to make sure and close your old file first.

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Hopefully I will be able to get back on this soon since my comp can handle the video program and FH at the same time better now.
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/7-Terrain Mask in GIMP.
Post by: aelitastar on June 16, 2011, 11:27:57 pm
um, could you maybe show how to get it ingame if you used paint.net? XD i need to have my map with the height and mask in it because its a warriors map -lol i know to many, but a friend asked me to make it- and i really need the height map and mask to work for me, i typed it in exactly as the file name and i used the default picture as a work place, so its the normal size it needs to be
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/7-Terrain Mask in GIMP.
Post by: Kieva on June 21, 2011, 07:11:22 pm
I used to be able to change the water texture. But now I have forgotten. Just a suggestion- or request... Would you mind making a water texture tutorial when you have the time? If you could it would be very much appreciated. C:[color]
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/7-Terrain Mask in GIMP.
Post by: Zodiac on June 23, 2011, 02:52:39 pm
-Karmas- THANK YOU!!! I needed this so much!
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/7-Terrain Mask in GIMP.
Post by: Leafscatter on August 18, 2011, 07:56:20 pm
Hi, (*gives good Karma for good tutorials*)
When I'm on the Mapmaker and trying to add the new [mapname]Terrain.png file it keeps coming up with an error saying that it can't find the file
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Cannot find '[mapname]Terrain.png' !!

It seems to do this with every Heightmap I make, even though I save it as [mapname]Terrain.png and have it saved in its own folder with the TerrainMask in terrain folder.
Any help?
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/7-Terrain Mask in GIMP.
Post by: SheWolfey on September 05, 2011, 01:12:39 pm
I followed all of the steps to the letter, yet when I load my mask into Feral Heart it all goes black and I can't use any of the different textures. Does anyone have any suggestions? Please?  :-[  :-[  :-[
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/7-Terrain Mask in GIMP.
Post by: brownwisker on November 18, 2011, 11:30:54 pm
i saw ur youtube video and can you type me the steps i try to save it to the FH folder i followed all your directions and it wont work can u help me please?
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/7-Terrain Mask in GIMP.
Post by: AlisanWolf on December 01, 2011, 04:41:59 pm
Just a question: What Photoshop is used? Because I have Photoshop, and is CS4...
I mean, I made the map and the mask as you said.. but the mask didn't worked.. to be sure, I made another map and mask... and same.. :(
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/7-Terrain Mask in GIMP.
Post by: GreekRiot on December 17, 2011, 11:03:36 pm
So i used your terrrain mask video to help me, but, i go int the game and go inside, it still the regular old terrain. :b
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/7-Terrain Mask in GIMP.
Post by: Silverwing600 on December 27, 2011, 01:45:56 am
OMG your Moonkitty? I've watched all your tutorials and they were a great help, thanks!
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/7-Terrain Mask in GIMP.
Post by: Kharress on December 27, 2011, 02:55:20 am
Wow! Very useful, thank you! I have been trying to make a map for my wolf and my big cat/hyena RPs and this is certainly going to help me!(:
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/7-Terrain Mask in GIMP.
Post by: GreekRiot on December 29, 2011, 11:54:50 pm
LOL, NVM i got it to work, i just had to take my char out then put it back in, silly me.
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/7-Terrain Mask in GIMP.
Post by: Patches10559 on July 21, 2012, 10:57:09 pm
I can't understand it!!    D:  Please help!!!  :(
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/7-Terrain Mask in GIMP.
Post by: SunstarTivio on August 01, 2012, 02:18:20 pm
Hi, um i am having a problem with the map loading. It's call Paradisemap, and to get it to even show up in the box below to load, i have to type it in the map names boxes, and then save so it will be in the same box as "watermill". On your video, your Tutorialmap was allready in that box. I'm wondering if i did something wrong and screwed the whole thing up. LOL. And also, after i type in its name, and save it, (so its in the box with "watermill") I click on it to load, and it does absolutley nothing. I mad SURE I followed your terrain making, and mask making instructions, and it just won't load on the game. Please reply, what do i do?
                                     -SunstarTivio
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/7-Terrain Mask in GIMP.
Post by: catcarryer on September 28, 2012, 01:51:11 pm
Title: Gimp download?
Post by: DARS on December 30, 2013, 11:11:20 am
I'm not sure I have the right gimp download. If you could please post a link to the download?  :)
Title: Re: Gimp download?
Post by: Ramine on December 30, 2013, 12:58:36 pm
I'm not sure I have the right gimp download. If you could please post a link to the download?  :)
http://www.gimp.org/downloads/ (http://www.gimp.org/downloads/)

There you go. c:
Title: Re: ~Wild's Map-making Video Tutorials~WIP-Update 5/7-Terrain Mask in GIMP.
Post by: Silvietta_ on July 30, 2014, 03:52:07 pm
Hi, um i am having a problem with the map loading. It's call Paradisemap, and to get it to even show up in the box below to load, i have to type it in the map names boxes, and then save so it will be in the same box as "watermill". On your video, your Tutorialmap was allready in that box. I'm wondering if i did something wrong and screwed the whole thing up. LOL. And also, after i type in its name, and save it, (so its in the box with "watermill") I click on it to load, and it does absolutley nothing. I mad SURE I followed your terrain making, and mask making instructions, and it just won't load on the game. Please reply, what do i do?
                                     -SunstarTivio

Hello!
I have this same problem like @SunstarTivio, what can we do please tell us?!
Thanks :3