Feral Heart

Help & Guidance => Game Help => Topic started by: StarryNights on April 21, 2020, 12:56:12 am

Title: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on April 21, 2020, 12:56:12 am
oh dear

basically my problem is that FeralHeart keeps crashing after maybe a few minutes of playing, then it takes forever for me to get back into the game cause it crashes when i try to load a character for a few tries

that's how it was for a few days, and today it's more often crashing as i try to use the character selection, so i can't really get into the game

i'm not sure if it's anything to do with my antivirus, cause it really doesn't like the exe file (keeps trying to delete it...), or if it's something else

very unfortunate, and i know nothing of technology so i don't really know what to do
i wanna join a group at some point but i can't really do that if i crash every few minutes ;;

sorry if this is hard to understand at all, i'm real bad at explaining things
but hopefully there's a solution
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: l3irdie on April 21, 2020, 01:56:41 am
I would try a few things

1. Right-click the FH icon and run it as an administrator
2. Either when you get the prompt when starting the application or on the main menu, click options > video and change your rendering system to either OpenGL or DirectX
3. After both of those or if there are issues, restart your device

Report back if this helps/or still persists
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on April 21, 2020, 05:53:14 pm
aa, took a bit for me to get back to this but uh

i tried all 3 of those, and after the third thing i was able to play a little longer, but it still crashed after a while

deeply unfortunate, and i still don't know what the problem could be

FeralHeart's never done this when i played it years ago (to my very limited memory), so i am very confused
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: SpicyDirt on April 21, 2020, 07:10:56 pm
There could be a chance that the antivirus is effecting it, so you could always try seeing if disabling that works out or not. If that is not the case, check out the FHLog file and see what that says about the crashing. Sometimes it could be something as small as a missing file, so that might be able to help you out further.
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on April 21, 2020, 08:38:43 pm
it might be something with the log, idk

i disabled my antivirus and even reinstalled the entire game, but it somehow got worse
now i'm lucky if i can even load my character (forgive me arrival chat)


the log's saying this:
(https://imgur.com/WcQ4YQI.png)

and i have no idea what that means

help ;;
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Toffeers on April 21, 2020, 11:06:36 pm
Okay. If you have. Try checking your particles file. It should be in media if I remember correctly.  If any of the particles have _0 or _1 on the end, delete them and then try to booth up fh.

Also, have you restarted your computer? I had a similar problem and it took me restart my my own computer to fix it. I hope this helps. ^ ^;;
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: SpicyDirt on April 22, 2020, 01:41:05 am
Hey, I'd recommend checking out your terrains file in the FeralHeart>Media>Terrains>Default. Someone else with a similar issue found out that it was something in there that was messing up the game.
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: VortexAlive on April 22, 2020, 02:02:38 am
When you did a new install, did you delete the old one first?
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on April 22, 2020, 02:07:33 am
yeah i've done all of that, restarting my laptop, checking my files, deleting literally everything related to FeralHeart (twice), it's still crashing

there's nothing wrong with my files, that i can see, and nothing i do seems to work

at least before, i could play for a few minutes, now i'm lucky if i can last just one minute with the game up. no loading a character necessary, it still crashes regardless


i really don't know what's going on, no other game has had this problem before so i have no idea what to do
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: VortexAlive on April 22, 2020, 02:44:53 am
Is it allowed through your firewall? I see you tried disabling your antivirus and yet it still was having issues. :o
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on April 22, 2020, 02:55:37 am
i've made it so my antivirus ignores it now, yeah, cause before it would simply delete the new .exe file without telling me it was doing so, or outright stopping me from downloading it entirely

stopped it from doing that, even turned the entire thing off for a few tries, but it still crashed

running it as administrator doesn't work either, it keeps crashing with everything i try

i guess the game really doesn't want to be played ;'D
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: VortexAlive on April 22, 2020, 06:35:50 am
What does the game put in your FH.txt? It can be found in the FeralHeart folder.
Also, does a badfile.reminder file show up in the FeralHeart folder?
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on April 22, 2020, 05:44:18 pm
that's the.. this, right?

(https://imgur.com/7FABc5a.png)

i've no idea what it means but obviously something's going on there?


and i don't see anything about a badfile.reminder thing, i looked (even used the search function to make sure i didn't miss it) but nothing like that's in the folder
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Nutella on April 22, 2020, 05:59:16 pm
Did you try to delete your feral heart, disable anti virus and download the game again? If not you should try that and see if it works.
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on April 23, 2020, 02:43:00 pm
i've tried disabling my antivirus and redownloading the game, yeah (disabling it's the only way it lets me download the new .exe file tbh)

it doesn't make any difference
in fact the first time i did that, it made the crashing worse to the point where i simply cannot play anymore
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: VortexAlive on April 23, 2020, 05:22:45 pm
Yeah, the FH.txt doesn't have anything to do with it. Sorry.
No badfile.reminder means it's not any of the files causing it... hmm...

Does the patched exe say it's size is 721 KB?
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on April 23, 2020, 06:32:40 pm
yes it does say that thankfully

i'm thinking i might try uninstalling the legendary items and markings later to see if they have something to do with it
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on April 25, 2020, 06:13:53 pm
okay it's been two whole days but i've finally tried getting rid of the legendary markings and items

it... still crashed after a while, so that wasn't the problem

but if it's not that, then why is it crashing?
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: SpicyDirt on April 26, 2020, 12:35:18 pm
Did you remove the items and markings by only deleting them or by replacing the markings.cfg and items.cfg back to the original state?
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Dark_heart on April 26, 2020, 02:04:09 pm
Maybe try to search FHlog file?
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on April 26, 2020, 03:49:01 pm
what i did with the markings and items was completely uninstall FeralHeart again and simply didn't reinstall those two afterwards

and i don't think the log file's a problem, since i showed it before and no one mentioned any problems in it
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: SpicyDirt on April 26, 2020, 04:25:42 pm
Yeah I don't think the log file will help you any further. You have tried changing your rendering, right? I do apologize if you have already tried this though.
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on April 26, 2020, 04:57:50 pm
yeah, using either rendering thing doesn't stop the crashing unfortunately

i'm just wondering what the problem could be, since nothing we've done so far seems to fix it
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: SpicyDirt on April 26, 2020, 05:36:42 pm
There could be a background program that is messing around with it.
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on April 26, 2020, 06:01:51 pm
what kinda program would do that? i have no idea, so idk where to look

no program messed with it before, and i still have the same laptop from when i played it years ago, so i'm not sure what program's changed to mess with it
going through my task manager and getting rid of random things would be what i would do, but i know that that's most likely not a good idea at all so i don't know where to start
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Oddonelynx on April 26, 2020, 06:42:58 pm
I just realized, I'm having the same issue too! This could be another server issue. :o
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Garfield. on April 27, 2020, 01:45:34 am
Posibly, I haven't fixed this problem and I don't think this is the item or markings' fault, it won't let me access other maps without crashing every 5-10 seconds, just it will let me stay in the grounds and no other place.
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Oddonelynx on April 27, 2020, 02:02:14 am
My problem is exactly like StarryNights'. Can only stay on FH for a few minutes before crashing
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Garfield. on April 27, 2020, 03:33:54 am
Mine's kind of both of you but it just happens in other maps such as seaside grove,eastern pass,etc..
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on April 29, 2020, 03:34:27 pm
OKAY! i have discovered that i have absolutely no brain
but i fixed my FeralHeart!

turns out the problem was that my cmain.material file... wasn't even in my FeralHeart folder? i don't know how that happened, cause i reinstalled the game like 5 times at this point and it never gave me that file? i'm so confused


but! case closed! my FeralHeart is fixed!
at least i think so, it didn't crash within minutes this time, but i couldn't wait for a long time to check because i have things i need to do

i cannot believe the solution was that simple
i have absolutely no braincells
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on April 29, 2020, 04:50:32 pm
oh hold on it uh...

it started crashing again

oh no
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Oddonelynx on April 29, 2020, 06:01:21 pm
Crap. Let's just keep searching for a fix.
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: MeekaJoy on April 29, 2020, 09:52:32 pm
hey there starry. i've been having the same problem as you. i thought about posting help but since i saw you and a few others have it with no available fix, i just, im hoping that the staff will find something to fix it; it cant be our feralhearts, it cant be our computers, it has to be something in the new file that's messing it up. i really hope they can figure it out or bother to fix it (i mean this in the kindest way), because honestly, before this update, i NEVER crashed. never. i only had issue when entering a big map, but then could get on right after. never crashed; a very solid FH and computer. but after this update, not a single moment can pass without crashing. it makes no sense.. i dont even bother to log on because i barely can. i cant even sit idly in my login screen without a crash. it's so weird.. im sorry to everyone experiencing this. i really am, i hope you all find a fix. i hope i do too. i hope i can play fh again.
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: SpicyDirt on April 30, 2020, 06:33:59 pm
If I'm not mistaken, I believe that one of the staff members said the issue has been brought up to Raz - don't quote me though!
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on May 13, 2020, 12:19:20 am
hopefully the staff can fix it then if it's a problem that can be fixed by them


i've come back to this because the game's still not letting me play

i decided to try both rendering systems to see if there are any differences and i noticed that the direct one let me play for the longest while both my attempts at the opengl stopped as soon as i tried to enter as a character, though that may be because i didn't wait for long before trying that one out
i don't remember either names fully so i hope i got them somewhat right

nothing's changed since last i tried, everything still crashes
which is deeply unfortunate, my friend and i were starting up a new group together before all this started happening again


i hope it can get solved soon, i really don't wanna miss out on the party whenever the new date comes up
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Oddonelynx on May 14, 2020, 12:40:52 am
I found a possible fix! Go to Windows Settings and click Update and Security and make sure your update to date. If not up to date that's why! I updated and the crashing went away somehow :o
Thought it might work for you guys possibly!
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Garfield. on May 14, 2020, 01:33:30 am
Well, I haven't updated my pc to windows 10 so it might be something but I feel this is gonna take a looong time xD
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on May 14, 2020, 02:41:19 am
i've just tried updating everything i could on my laptop but,, it still crashed 😔

i was hoping it could've been not updating it, since i basically never bother doing that, but yeah,, no,,

's either a problem with the game itself or it's some unknown issue with my laptop that i still can't figure out yet
it was working before though, but i don't know what's different from when i first started playing again to when the problems first started up

what else could cause the game to just crash every few minutes? i'm all out of ideas and i'm not too full on hope anymore
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Oddonelynx on May 14, 2020, 02:43:37 am
Yea, I'm still crashing too :| I can only stay in Eastern Pass unless I move foward, then I crash  :o
This has to be a server issue because no matter what we do, it crashes either way
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: SpicyDirt on May 14, 2020, 03:55:33 am
I was about to ask for PC specs but if so many people are having issues then it does seem like more of a server thing. If I am not mistaken this issue was forwarded to Razmirz, but I am not 100% sure about that - I might've just been seeing things.

If you haven't already, if you contact a staff member then they should be able to let Raz know for y'all.

The only thing that I could say could POSSIBLY help would be to use a completely different computer.
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Oddonelynx on May 14, 2020, 03:57:13 am
I was about to ask for PC specs but if so many people are having issues then it does seem like more of a server thing. If I am not mistaken this issue was forwarded to Razmirz, but I am not 100% sure about that - I might've just been seeing things.

If you haven't already, if you contact a staff member then they should be able to let Raz know for y'all.

The only thing that I could say could POSSIBLY help would be to use a completely different computer.
I don't have another computer. My old one is completely dead too.
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: SpicyDirt on May 14, 2020, 04:04:39 am
I was about to ask for PC specs but if so many people are having issues then it does seem like more of a server thing. If I am not mistaken this issue was forwarded to Razmirz, but I am not 100% sure about that - I might've just been seeing things.

If you haven't already, if you contact a staff member then they should be able to let Raz know for y'all.

The only thing that I could say could POSSIBLY help would be to use a completely different computer.
I don't have another computer. My old one is completely dead too.

If that's the case it seems like all you could do is contact staff and wait. :( That is a pretty jank solution though, so I'll look around and see what I can find to try to help y'all. Since you updated your computer have you changed anything? Downloads, more updates, settings, etc.?
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: arilioness on May 14, 2020, 11:17:42 pm
Lately it seems like everyone is having problems with feral heart but me :C, the only issues i ever had was failing to connect with the front server but last time i had it, it seemed to be the server itself and it was fixed when the new patch came out, so, yeah :<, i hope you will be able to play again soon, dont give up!, i was hopeless too when i could not get into the game, also, i have seen someone with similair issues like you!, they also could only stay for a little while on the game and then crash, and they have the same type of error with the water files, it seems like the water in this game is having a party lately
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on June 16, 2020, 05:03:23 pm
okay,, update on this i guess
it's been a bit but uh

so i tried uninstalling and reinstalling it again and,, well,, i've played for about half an hour now without crashing so.. maybe it's fixed? for now?
i'll update if it's not the case soo probably don't lock it yet ^^'
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: SpicyDirt on June 16, 2020, 05:05:26 pm
Glad it is working for now!~
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on June 16, 2020, 05:16:03 pm
....ah, i lied

an hour of playing and it crashed again

whyyyy

oh well, at least it was long enough to have a little bit of fun
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: SpicyDirt on June 16, 2020, 05:25:26 pm
Is there anything that happens before it crashes?
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on June 16, 2020, 05:29:12 pm
nope, one moment i'm chilling and the next the game just closes

no error message, no popup, for an example of how it looks, it's like i pressed the x in the corner to close it
but i definitely didn't, that's just an idea of how it goes

i swear i am going to fight this game
i wanna join a roleplay group ;;
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Oddonelynx on June 16, 2020, 06:01:29 pm
Try changing your rendering system, somehow that worked for me, and we have the exact same problem. Change to OpenLG if you have Direct3D9
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on June 16, 2020, 06:16:04 pm
changing rendering's never really worked, though it flip flops between them itself sometimes when i open it again

it seems that to get it to work for at least an hour, i need to uninstall everything and reinstall it, then i can play for a bit
but like,, i don't wanna do that every time it crashes ya know? be annoying to do it more than once

currently trying without the markings and items downloaded to see if that changes anything, though i can't remember if i tried before
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: DylanCheetah on June 16, 2020, 06:20:07 pm
If you are using preset sync or have presets installed and even one of the preset files is corrupt, when the player with that preset enters the map you are in it will cause a crash. I had that happen before.
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on June 16, 2020, 06:30:25 pm
's definitely not that... the only preset i have is my own and it certainly isn't corrupted,,
i've had 2 versions of it already, be weird if both were somehow corrupted

and i don't have preset sync either, read somewhere it doesn't work right with the new update so //shrug
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on June 17, 2020, 04:49:17 pm
i've tried without the legendary stuff downloaded, so basically no mods at all, and it still crashes

so it's not anything ive downloaded
just the game being funky

this thread's already gettin' long but i am no closer to solving this thing
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Dark_heart on June 17, 2020, 05:00:04 pm
Maybe is problem with code somewhere? I think you should download media folder or something what you think would be best from Bawfle's backup? Link: https://feral-heart.com/smf/index.php?topic=58064.msg792807#msg792807
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on June 17, 2020, 05:35:43 pm
i tried downloading the media folder from that just now, and other than somehow losing a character to the void (??) it worked for a little while but ultimately crashed again

so it's not the media folder? i guess? idk what else to try to download from there so,,
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Dark_heart on June 17, 2020, 06:55:30 pm
Okay, so maybe download Main Folder Contents...? Ehhhh, game really don't like you, I'm with you in this fight ;'3
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on June 17, 2020, 08:18:37 pm
alright that was the longest it's gone without crashing so idk what that means

it really really does not like me
what did i do ;;
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Dark_heart on June 17, 2020, 09:41:54 pm
How much time now it let you stay in game?
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on June 17, 2020, 09:49:21 pm
'm not entirely sure cause i didn't time or anything, uh

well i started it somewhere around the beginning of 12, and it crashed almost at 1:20
so about an hour and a half i think

that's not long enough to do much of anything unfortunately,, so i'm still unable to really play
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Dark_heart on June 17, 2020, 09:53:50 pm
There wasn't any pop-up message? Or bright screen? Just quick freeze and crash od something like this in random moments?
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on June 17, 2020, 10:02:34 pm
nah, all it does is close suddenly
no freezing or anything, it's just gone

nothing pops up afterwards, but it does crash way, way sooner for a short while after a crash
like, i open it immediately after it crashes and it doesn't even stay open for ten seconds before it's gone again
i gotta wait a while before i try again
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Dark_heart on June 17, 2020, 10:18:00 pm
Ahhh, I understand. I really don't know what more you can do, heck. But tell me, do you have open antivirus? Maybe it is its fault?
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on June 17, 2020, 10:23:56 pm
the only problem with my antivirus i've been aware of was it simply not allowing me to download the new .exe file at all, deleting it before i get the chance

once i finish what i'm doing right now, i'll see what happens when i play the game with it completely disabled, if that changes anything

honestly whenever we solve this it's gonna feel so strange
just cause it's been so long now with nothing working so far
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on June 17, 2020, 11:25:55 pm
alright yeah no that wasn't it
it crashed again
quicker this time,,

so it's not my antivirus i don't think?
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Dentrimental on June 18, 2020, 10:27:28 am
Eeeeh quietnacaroni has this problem too..
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Oddonelynx on June 18, 2020, 01:22:40 pm
Eeeeh quietnacaroni has this problem too..
And so do I, I wish I could help.
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Dentrimental on June 18, 2020, 01:28:20 pm
oh no... :/
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Dark_heart on June 19, 2020, 07:26:05 pm
Do you have any other IT servers? How much RAM left on your computer? And is it possible to diffrent apps crash your game?
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on June 19, 2020, 07:53:43 pm
nah, i don't have any other games like that, don't really bother since i'm too scared to play any other than feralheart :')

i,, vaguely know what RAM is but i have 42.8 GB free atm, out of like,, 222 GB,,
if that's what RAM is,, i have 0 knowledge of computers

no other games or apps crash like this, tmk, at least not as frequently
like, skyrim crashes a bit, but that's mostly cause it's skyrim and i've modded it to heck, and i can get back into it immediately so it doesn't matter
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Dark_heart on June 19, 2020, 08:35:01 pm
Hmmm. If in Bawfle's backup are map files, try to replace them. Ehhhh, really don't know what can you help...
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Oddonelynx on June 19, 2020, 08:45:14 pm
Are you sending your crashes over to a moderator?
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on June 19, 2020, 09:41:01 pm
i've not sent anything to anyone,, too scared to do that ;-;
i can't really message anyone myself since i am a coward and would most likely die before i could

i'll try the map thing at some point maybe, got no other ideas so //shrug
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Oddonelynx on June 20, 2020, 01:59:53 am
If you send your crashes from the log.txt file, they might be able to fix it in the next patch of FH
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on June 20, 2020, 03:16:38 am
i think we've figured the log file wasn't an issue?? idk i can't remember but no one's said anything was wrong with it so
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Oddonelynx on June 20, 2020, 06:26:35 pm
No, not the FH.Log that one's usually not exactly correct. The other log. The one that just says "log"
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on June 20, 2020, 06:31:18 pm
oh, i don't... i don't have one that just says "log",,

i looked just now, using the search bar too just in case, got nothing

am i uh, supposed to have one?
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: Oddonelynx on June 20, 2020, 06:36:17 pm
I'm pretty sure, because I have one :o
Title: Re: FeralHeart doesn't like existing
Post by: StarryNights on June 20, 2020, 06:38:07 pm
oh dear,, O_O

a mystery,,