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Title: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: ColonelHamilton on March 12, 2011, 12:21:10 am
Discuss proper roleplaying behavior here. :D

Figured I'd might as well mention some of the more common roleplay faux pas that most of us are familiar with.

1) Godmoding. This involves controlling others' characters. Auto-hitting is a common example of this; you can have your character attack another character, but you cannot determine whether the strike lands and how much damage is done.  Controlling another character's reaction to your own character is also considered godmoding; you cannot say that every male in the room is attracted to your girl, for instance.  Mind control as a character ability is very often a recipe for 'legal' godmoding; personally I recommend disallowing mind control as a power in a roleplay, unless there are serious limitations.

2) Powerplaying. This is almost like godmoding, but not quite.  A power player may not control another's character or auto-hit, but they will load their character up with an absurd amount of powers, and refuse to let their character lose.  In the course of a fight, a good roleplayer will handle things realistic: their character will grow tired as a fight goes on, and they will probably be struck at least a few times by their opponent.  A power player will always let loose perfect and powerful attacks, and never suffer damage.  Power playing does not always have to be combat related.  

3) Meta-gaming.  This is a less well known issue.  Meta-gaming involves taking knowledge that the player has and using it in character.  For instance, Player A's character, upon meeting Character B for the first time, has no reason to know anything about them.  However, if Player A has read Character B's profile, they may unfairly use that information.  It's no fun if a character is secretly a spy, but every other character knows about it for no particular reason. Mind reading as an ability is often an excuse for meta-gaming.

4) Mary-Sues.  Related to all of the above, Mary Sue characters are all about perfection, and therefore fall prey to a lot of the above.  Mary Sue characters will not be allowed to lose by their players.  Mary Sue characters tend to figure out everything immediately (meta-gaming), be the most accomplish characters in the game (power playing), and make sure that every other character is beaten or awed by their power (godmoding)

5)Forgetting that ICA=ICC (In-character actions result in in-character consequences).  When people roleplay, they, of course, try to make their character act consistently.  They also consider the logical consequences of actions and events.  A bad roleplayer, however, may ignore this principle, and get upset when a character suffers from the logical consequences of their actions. If your character is rude and mean, expect other characters to dislike them, even if your character does have a angst filled past as an excuse (the other characters either don't know about it or don't care).  If your character is a soldier who disobeys orders, expect to be scolded or punished by superiors, if not kicked out.  If your frail little cub confronts a vicious monster, expect for them to get injured (unreasonably refusing to take damage is powerplaying).

6) Forgetting that IC=/=OOC (In-character is not out of character).  Some people put a lot of themselves in their roleplaying character, and have a hard time separating the fiction from the reality.  People like this are often upset when they see evil, rude, or cruel characters in a roleplaying game, because they assume that the characters represent the views and personalities of the players.  Other people don't care about that until someone's character is mean to their own character, and they take it as a personal insult.  Remember that roleplay is all about taking on different roles.  Heck, it's in the name!

7) Poor Grammar and Spelling.  People prefer many different styles of roleplay; some like posts to be hundreds of words long, others prefer the quick back and forth of one-liners, which are appropriate for in-game roleplay in Feral Heart.  Also, everyone makes mistakes once in a while.  However, there is no excuse for consistently misspelling words, using chat speak, using inappropriate punctuation, not using punctuation, and neglected basic grammar.  These things are not hard to do and show that you care about the roleplay you are involved in.

8) Roleplay neglect and abandonment.  We've all done this once in a while, but that doesn't mean it's all right.  This involves committing to some kind of long term roleplay and either disappearing or not participating enough by the game's standards.  If you do not have the time for a roleplay, wait until you have time before you join it.

9) Forgetting that RL>RP (real life is more important than roleplay).  This involves excessively attacking those who do not participate in a roleplay due to real life issues.  This may include expecting someone to be online for hours at a time every day, or getting angry when a roleplay partner takes a break for a week or so due to tests, family issues, or computer failure. A roleplay may be a commitment, but it is also just a game.  Partners have lives and cannot be expected to cater to your every roleplay whim.

10) Romance Obsession.  This is ignoring all other aspects of a roleplay in order to fulfill romantic fantasies.  While focusing on mostly romance in a romance-focus roleplay makes sense, doing so in a more general roleplay can be detrimental.  For one, a romance can usually only occur between two people.  This means that a player with Romance Obsession will focus all of their character's attention on the object of their romantic attraction, and ignore every other character, to the roleplay's detriment.  It is also unrealistic, as most people are concerned about things besides romance, especially during zombie apocalypses and supernatural wars, which are common in roleplays. Why is this character doing nothing but pining after a boy when her life is in danger?

11) Instant Romance.  A combination of Romance Obsession and Illogical Events and Behavior.  This is when a player is so eager for romance, they have their own character fall in love with another character for no other reason than that the player finds the object of their character's affection to be attractive.  While this can make sense if the character falling in instant love is portrayed as shallow, often the player wants this to be true love.  Instant Romance ruins a chance for interesting and realistic development between characters.

12) Illogical Events and Behavior.  This covers just about anything in a roleplay that makes no or little sense. Instant Romance, as described above is an example of this.  Characters should be consistent, and NPCs should act in a logical manner.

13) NPC Puffery. Using Non-Player Characters in order to make one's own character look good.  For instance, a player might have their character make a painting, and write that everyone in the class gasped at how beautiful it was and that the art teacher declared the piece to be a work of genius.  Someone playing a wolf may say that a rival pack attacked and all were beaten by their own character.  This is a form of Mary Sueism, where the world around the character is manipulated in order to make the Sue look cool by comparison.

14) Leaving People Behind. This is especially relevant in forum roleplays, where response time is expected to be slower.  While it is unreasonable to wait forever for someone to post, it is also unreasonable to post so quickly and often that they are left behind.  When the fast posters' characters are alone together and their actions do not effect anyone else, not waiting for others makes sense.  However, it is different when everyone else in the roleplay comes back after a few hours to see seven pages of  just Fast Poster 1 and Fast Poster 2, who have jumped time forward to the next day.

So, what are some of your thoughst on roleplaying, good and bad?
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: VelociraptorGirl on March 12, 2011, 12:47:20 am
THANK GOD. A basic roleplaying guide. I don't RP outside of my pack anymore because it's too annoying. Maybe this will help. I hope so.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Wudiin on March 12, 2011, 01:28:29 am
I love you for making this.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: ColonelHamilton on March 12, 2011, 01:34:57 am
This isn't really a roleplaying guide, but now that you mention it I might make it one. XD
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Wudiin on March 12, 2011, 01:38:34 am
People need it XD. Write one out for canines and felines, I'm tiredof seeing small wolves run up to my MUCH larger feline characters thinking they can win.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: shusuke on March 12, 2011, 02:10:40 am
Alex ILU <3 +karma

I was going to make something like this but yours is much better than mind 8|

Just putting basic tips on how to avoid doing these things and make the roleplay fair is enough, I feel. :3

Small canines biting large felines = chihuahuas who have a death wish
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: ColonelHamilton on March 12, 2011, 02:24:23 pm
Adding two more for now. : )

5)Forgetting that ICA=ICC (In-character actions result in in-character consequences).  When people roleplay, they, of course, try to make their character act consistently.  They also consider the logical consequences of actions and events.  A bad roleplayer, however, may ignore this principle, and get upset when a character suffers from the logical consequences of their actions. If your character is rude and mean, expect other characters to dislike them, even if your character does have a angst filled past as an excuse (the other characters either don't know about it or don't care).  If your character is a soldier who disobeys orders, expect to be scolded or punished by superiors, if not kicked out.  If your frail little cub confronts a vicious monster, expect for them to get injured (unreasonably refusing to take damage is powerplaying).

6) Forgetting that IC=/=OOC (In-character is not out of character).  Some people put a lot of themselves in their roleplaying character, and have a hard time separating the fiction from the reality.  People like this are often upset when they see evil, rude, or cruel characters in a roleplaying game, because they assume that the characters represent the views and personalities of the players.  Other people don't care about that until someone's character is mean to their own character, and they take it as a personal insult.  Remember that roleplay is all about taking on different roles.  Heck, it's in the name!
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: SecondChance on March 12, 2011, 02:55:54 pm
*Bows down to the all-mighty Alex.*

Thank goodness somebody posted this! I hope that everyone who roleplays - but doesn't actually know how to - reads this and learns!
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: GemWolf on March 12, 2011, 05:54:58 pm
 I love you for this. xD Now hopefully the RP's will be more friendly.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Beeskee on March 12, 2011, 07:47:55 pm
Brilliant post. I was hoping there would be something like this.


The only suggestions I can think to add are specific to Feral Heart, such as reading the wikipedia article about the species you play, etc.


Freefall (the comic linked in my signature) gives pretty good insight into the wolf (or any other predator) thought process.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Sylph on March 12, 2011, 08:19:19 pm
Yayy! An RP guide! ;3 +1 Karma for you! x3
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: FoxfangPitbull on March 13, 2011, 09:05:36 pm
And chat-speak. I HATE chat-speak. In fact, i loathe it with a passion.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: RavenShai on March 13, 2011, 10:07:28 pm
I agree with Foxfang, I also hate chat-speak with a passion > < I hate it especially when they rp with it. When I see someone speaking in chat-speak, I sometimes have to re-read the sentence(s) because I have on clue what they just said.

Speaking of which, I also dislike how some don't take the time to type out their replies, like they're typing it out in a hurry and their replies make no sense, so this makes the other rpers confused and they have no clue what's going on. Is there a rule for that?

Oh, and I also dislike when no one waits for your char to reply >. >

Anyway, love this post, glad its been made x3
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Wudiin on March 14, 2011, 12:35:09 am
Oh chat speak in roleplays irks me to death. Espically when they think that their the best out there... I'm no master speller myself but common XD.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: ColonelHamilton on March 15, 2011, 05:40:42 pm
More bad roleplay behavior.  Added the grammar and spelling one thanks to suggestions. : )

7) Poor Grammar and Spelling.  People prefer many different styles of roleplay; some like posts to be hundreds of words long, others prefer the quick back and forth of one-liners, which are appropriate for in-game roleplay in Feral Heart.  Also, everyone makes mistakes once in a while.  However, there is no excuse for consistently misspelling words, using chat speak, using inappropriate punctuation, not using punctuation, and neglected basic grammar.  These things are not hard to do and show that you care about the roleplay you are involved in.

8) Roleplay neglect and abandonment.  We've all done this once in a while, but that doesn't mean it's all right.  This involves committing to some kind of long term roleplay and either disappearing or not participating enough by the game's standards.  If you do not have the time for a roleplay, wait until you have time before you join it.

9) Forgetting that RL>RP (real life is more important than roleplay).  This involves excessively attacking those who do not participate in a roleplay due to real life issues.  This may include expecting someone to be online for hours at a time every day, or getting angry when a roleplay partner takes a break for a week or so due to tests, family issues, or computer failure. A roleplay may be a commitment, but it is also just a game.  Partners have lives and cannot be expected to cater to your every roleplay whim.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Avani on March 15, 2011, 09:22:15 pm
Thx for posting this! ^.^
It will be helpfull for others ?
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: FoxfangPitbull on March 15, 2011, 09:29:27 pm
For sure, Avani :3
But that's why I'm so picky about roleplays....even the slightest grammar error irks me.
I'm so picky about myself as well.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: UncleSmithers on March 16, 2011, 02:55:21 am
Thank you for making this :'D Mary-sues and grammar issues bug me to no end... reminds me of my friend when she had RPs up on a different site; she was strict on these rules, but she had a point |D

Hope people learn from this~
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Nyanna on March 17, 2011, 10:08:48 pm
Couldn't of said it better myself! I don't role-play on the game because I'm too picky, my fault really but once you get used to people who really know how to role play its so difficult to go back to the "Chat" style that I started out with. Anyway great guide and thanks for taking the time to put it up here, should be a sticky in my mind. ^.^
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: ColonelHamilton on March 17, 2011, 10:56:49 pm
Glad you guys approve!  Here are a bunch more:

10) Romance Obsession.  This is ignoring all other aspects of a roleplay in order to fulfill romantic fantasies.  While focusing on mostly romance in a romance-focus roleplay makes sense, doing so in a more general roleplay can be detrimental.  For one, a romance can usually only occur between two people.  This means that a player with Romance Obsession will focus all of their character's attention on the object of their romantic attraction, and ignore every other character, to the roleplay's detriment.  It is also unreaslistic, as most people are concerned about things besides romance, especially during zombie apocalypses and supernatural wars, which are common in roleplays. Why is this character doing nothing but pining after a boy when her life is in danger?

11) Instant Romance.  A combination of Romance Obsession and Illogical Events and Behavior.  This is when a player is so eager for romance, they have their own character fall in love with another character for no other reason than that the player finds the object of their character's affection to be attractive.  While this can make sense if the character falling in instant love is portrayed as shallow, often the player wants this to be true love.  Instant Romance ruins a chance for interesting and realistic development between characters.

12) Illogical Events and Behavior.  This covers just about anything in a roleplay that makes no or little sense. Instant Romance, as described above is an example of this.  Characters should be consistent, and NPCs should act in a logical manner.

13) NPC Puffery. Using Non-Player Characters in order to make one's own character look good.  For instance, a player might have their character make a painting, and write that everyone in the class gasped at how beautiful it was and that the art teacher declared the piece to be a work of genius.  Someone playing a wolf may say that a rival pack attacked and all were beaten by their own character.  This is a form of Mary Sueism, where the world around the character is manipulated in order to make the Sue look cool by comparison.

14) Leaving People Behind. This is especially relevant in forum roleplays, where response time is expected to be slower.  While it is unreasonable to wait forever for someone to post, it is also unreasonable to post so quickly and often that they are left behind.  When the fast posters' characters are alone together and their actions do not effect anyone else, not waiting for others makes sense.  However, it is different when everyone else in the roleplay comes back after a few hours to see seven pages of  just Fast Poster 1 and Fast Poster 2, who have jumped time forward to the next day.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Nyanna on March 17, 2011, 11:11:33 pm
Another great set of issues that we have to deal with, perhaps you could edit your first post so that they are all there? That way when new players read it they don't have to search the posts. Anyway very inspiring that someone other then me and my friends notice they're issues that are the bane if role play.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Halopromise on March 17, 2011, 11:18:51 pm
Agree with everything said Alexander. We know a lot of new people are and will always be joining the RPG world, unfortunately those who are are stamped "fail" on their forehead right upon entering, say if they don't know the rules. Or they could just be to lazy, which still bugs me if that's the case. I'm very picky with my role play, go by all rules. Owning a large RPG site I would need to know basic rules of course, and I actually only stick to paragraph to multiparagraph, but in FH I keep it as short as I possibly can, so I'm not filling up the chat with a single post. I do find it annoying when people think the size is all that matters in RP, I prefer quality over quantity. Other wise I loose interest fast from those who use little effort to really bring a story to life.

I hate when people mix their real life in role play, even if playing a fursona, it still urks me quite a bit, and I find that a form of meta gaming. Like I don't care if your mom is yelling at you for what ever reason or you failed a math quiz, what does this have to do with your wolf/animal?

Instant romance. Mate beggers, get it all the time, but it's not as bad here as it used to be on WQ. The mods actually took it to the point they removed the words he, she, her, him, mate, eight, six, male, female and so on.

I'll admit, I am not the best at grammar, I'm sure I even messed up a 100 times in this post even, but when it comes to saying *looks @ u & leaves dramatically* I wanna jab my eyes out. Sorry if you use chat speak, it's just my personal opinion, try to remain from getting all offended and defensive?

I can go on a while about all this. I think it's worse when people know the basic rules, but are to lazy to care and continue godmodding and what not. As for new people, it's just a matter of learning. I've been around a LOT of people who maul a character just for not using grammar or putting caps in their posts. We all start off some where and some bring it a little to far.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: ColonelHamilton on March 17, 2011, 11:19:26 pm
I'll do that in a bit when I am feeling a little less lazy. :)
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Smilodon on March 17, 2011, 11:24:05 pm
So glad you posted this Alexander Hamilton I couldn't agree more on this x3.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Nyanna on March 17, 2011, 11:30:59 pm
Instant romance. Mate beggers, get it all the time, but it's not as bad here as it used to be on WQ. The mods actually took it to the point they removed the words he, she, her, him, mate, eight, six, male, female and so on.

I'll admit, I am not the best at grammar, I'm sure I even messed up a 100 times in this post even, but when it comes to saying *looks @ u & leaves dramatically* I wanna jab my eyes out. Sorry if you use chat speak, it's just my personal opinion, try to remain from getting all offended and defensive?

And that says it all, I remember the old WQ before they put up all the chat guards and when the role play was...better I guess. I started out on that game and I've since moved past it but we all start somewhere. Perhaps if we catch these new players early on we can teach them what a good role play is compared to laziness. Anyway I know that I'll be linking some of my members on my RPG site to this post! ^_^
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Halopromise on March 18, 2011, 12:39:42 am
I learned how to RP on WQ as well, back when they didn't completely block nearly every word. It's difficult for new role players to join the RPG world, and discouraging when there is fail naming. A lot join in and a lot leave. New role players just need to be taught the right way by the right people is all.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: ColonelHamilton on March 18, 2011, 12:43:58 am
There really does need to be more guides and introductions to roleplaying.  Many people aren't even familiar with terms like 'ooc' and so on.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Nyanna on March 18, 2011, 01:32:26 am
I loved WQ before all the guards, now I mainly play single player. I must admit it took me a while to learn the terms and some of them that you used I didn't know to well but I knew what you were talking about. It would be really awesome if someone started a Role-Play school or something where they good players could tutor the new players. Maybe that would cut down on some of the fail rps.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: ColonelHamilton on March 18, 2011, 02:02:15 am
I hope this thread can do its small part! lol
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Halopromise on March 18, 2011, 02:07:51 am
On my site there is tons of pages for RPG training and guides, so we really have none of these problems. I left wolf quest when my RP got better, role play there got over dramatic and it was "mate this-mate that.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: FadedTimes on March 18, 2011, 11:40:01 pm
This helped a lot ^_^
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: NuclearParadox on March 19, 2011, 12:59:09 am
...I love you so much right now.  I've seen well over half of these thing in FH rps, and it's really quite irritating.  Hopefully people will read this.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: JazzForLife on March 19, 2011, 01:19:28 am
*_* This was such a good idea. + Karma.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: ColonelHamilton on March 22, 2011, 11:08:33 pm
15) Roleplaying Alone.  Roleplay is all about interaction.  However, occasionally, someone in a roleplay will not put any effort into interacting with other characters.  They may continually post what their character is doing far off in some distant place.  Sometimes they seem content to play alone; other times they will complain that no one is roleplaying with them.  If you want your character to get attention, put them someplace where other characters are and initiate contact.  Don't expect everyone else to come to you.  At the same time, if you don't mind not interacting with other characters, why roleplay at all when you can just write a story?

16) Just Thoughts.  If you want other characters to react to your character, your character has to do something.  No other character can read your characters thoughts.  If your character is just thinking, as far as anyone else can tell, your character is just standing around.

17) Passivity.  A roleplay post typically involves a reaction to previous actions and an action for others to react to.  However, some people lean to much on their roleplay partner to get things going and keep them going.  For example, a  character may only give short answers like "Uh huh" and "yeah" while in a conversation with another character, forcing the other player ot come up with interesting conversation topics with nothing to work from.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: FoxfangPitbull on March 22, 2011, 11:33:44 pm
For me, having nothing to work with is seriously killing. Honestly, makes me die inside when that happens. I just think: "Why do I bother?"
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Nyanna on March 23, 2011, 01:30:15 am
For me, having nothing to work with is seriously killing. Honestly, makes me die inside when that happens. I just think: "Why do I bother?"

Yep, thats why I don't role-play In-Game or I ask for samples before hand. I won't rp with someone unless I 1. Like they're style. and 2. Think they can live up to meh standards. Sounds picky yes and I don't join may rps but it makes the ones I do join worth it.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Halopromise on March 23, 2011, 06:33:34 am
For me, having nothing to work with is seriously killing. Honestly, makes me die inside when that happens. I just think: "Why do I bother?"

Yep, thats why I don't role-play In-Game or I ask for samples before hand. I won't rp with someone unless I 1. Like they're style. and 2. Think they can live up to meh standards. Sounds picky yes and I don't join may rps but it makes the ones I do join worth it.
You're not alone on that. My friends and I are all the same way.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Fleech-Hunter on March 23, 2011, 07:59:45 am
More people should read this. I swear it should be required. LOL xD

But still, there's nothing wrong with being a "new" role-player. They're the ones who don't know what OOC/IC and all that jazz means. Nothing wrong with that.

What IS wrong, are ignorant role-players, and those that CHOOSE to remain ignorant. xD

Newbs = okay
Net-tards = fail

But that's just how I see it. xD
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Nyanna on March 23, 2011, 11:57:56 am
More people should read this. I swear it should be required. LOL xD

But still, there's nothing wrong with being a "new" role-player. They're the ones who don't know what OOC/IC and all that jazz means. Nothing wrong with that.

What IS wrong, are ignorant role-players, and those that CHOOSE to remain ignorant. xD

Newbs = okay
Net-tards = fail

But that's just how I see it. xD

Your very much right on that, theres nothing wrong with a "new" role-play because we're all new at one point and time. Its just a matter of putting the time and effort into improving your skills. Its just the fact that there are so many out there that don't know what quality role-playing is. Thats why I made the comment about it would be cool if we had a Role-Play school, rofl. But the only problem with that is to find players who are willing to admit they can do better or that have the drive to do so.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Fleech-Hunter on March 24, 2011, 04:53:16 am
People don't like admitting they're not good at something in general. Role-play is no different. lol xD

It really is a shame.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: ColonelHamilton on March 25, 2011, 08:13:09 am
18) Unreadability.  Using a font or combination of colors that makes roleplay posts hard to read.  It doesn't matter how 'pretty' you think that gray text looks on that slightly lighter gray background.  It doesn't matter that people can highlight the text in order to read it.  They shouldn't have to go through the trouble just so you can satisfy your impractical aesthetic urges.  If you are going to change the default type, only do so if you are sure it is readable.  

19) Purple Prose.  Using descriptions that are so flowery they become ridiculous and agonizing.  One does not need to spend several paragraphs describing a character's eye color in a variety of over the top metaphors on a character profile.  The same could be said of describing the ache of emptiness in an angsting character's heart.  Here is an example of purple prose taken from a real character profile:

"Hair: Raspberry bushes -- ripe and kissed in morning dew. Harumi's hair flows in soft strands of pale copper, with a sweet touch a roasted pecan shade kissed with threads the color of nutmeg and raspberry truffle cake. Silken flushed tresses slithers down, slighting brushing against the delicate curve of her shoulders which is as tender as the gentle strike of a butterfly, lithely floating about until finally settling upon the glazed rose bloom of her skin. Her hair was once long (Oh, was it unquestionably long) brushing against delicate arch of her slender spine. "

A description like this, while pretty, often goes on so long that you end up unsure of what you just read.  Ironically, something like this conveys more information while being easier to read: "Harumi has light brown hair that just reaches her shoulders; it's slightly curled and always parted in the center."  

20) Thesaurus Abuse.  Often related to Purple Prose.  A thesaurus is a valuable but dangerous tool for a writer.  When you can't find just the right word you are looking for, it's useful. However, some use it for evil trying, to find the most obscure and long words for the simplest of things.  The worst cases of thesaurus abuse end with people having to use dictionaries in order to read what is being said Language is often subtle, and if you aren't familiar with a word and see it in a thesaurus, you might miss use it.   For example, on one online thesaurus, both 'qualified' and 'wise' are listed as synonyms for 'clever', but obviously you can't replace one with the other without changing the meaning of what is being said.  Using terms like 'ocular orbs' for 'eyes' isn't better writing; it's unclear and wordy without being more powerful.  Clarity is the first goal of writing; style should make things clearer, not obfuscate the meaning.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Kyugima on March 25, 2011, 08:30:16 am
  Oh man, I couldn't understand a word of what was said in the sample...
  I think I might be a little guilty of thesaurus abuse. but I'm still trying to find the imbetween between how I used to write and how I write now. In the old days, I would use the same words over and over and over, and it got a little bland for those reading...
  Unreadabilty is the worst for me, I have very bad eye sight and people using pretty colours that I have to concentrate to see actually gives me migraines due to the strain on my eyes.

  And this is very useful!!! I love reading these!
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: slycan on March 25, 2011, 08:44:12 am
how about IRL =/=  RP

I find that a lot of people start adding their real feelings toward a RP - which is good unless taken to far.. say the person is a mate with your character.. and starts stalking you around on msn and such like you guys are going out or something x.x. Or even if you kill their character, they start having a nerd rage and tell their entire pack to go after you..

source : happened alot in IT.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Babe on March 25, 2011, 03:18:14 pm
Sly, that would be OOC =/= IC and IC =/= OOC ^^' Which is so true, and sad that people do.

Thank you for the helpful guide. :3
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Halopromise on March 25, 2011, 03:24:08 pm
I've seen this 1000 times myself Sly. People go to some extreme lengths in RP and don't see the line between role play and reality.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: slycan on March 25, 2011, 04:50:47 pm
Oh okay thanks ;3

and yes it is x.x
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: ColonelHamilton on March 26, 2011, 12:52:24 am
I may start making a new part of this list devoted o=to good roleplaying.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: weylin on March 26, 2011, 05:45:53 am
I try not to use the thesaurus unless I really REALLLLLY need it. Most of the time people are being descriptive in their roleplays they use some really odd words.
I mean, I understand what they're saying, but the words are totally out of context and don't seem to flow.

As was said, using, say, 'ocular' instead of eyes, it makes it sound like a scientific document or something.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: alice on March 27, 2011, 02:14:39 am
I've re-read a few favorite, classic epics too much to not be long-winded T.T But I do so love this :D
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: ColonelHamilton on March 27, 2011, 06:26:20 am
lol, you're not long winded. : )
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: alice on March 28, 2011, 01:33:32 am
PFFFT. I should be a politian with the way I go on. A senator, specifically. I could filibuster like nobody's business.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: ColonelHamilton on March 28, 2011, 05:52:47 am
You don't do the thing where there are 1000 words, 90% of which are devoted to thoughts or description of clothing. And you certainly don't descend into purple prose.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: alice on March 28, 2011, 09:32:13 am
I suppose XD Though, in role-play fighting, I get VERY detailed out of fear that it may be misinterpreted. XD Thank you.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: FoxfangPitbull on March 28, 2011, 08:37:49 pm
I'm starting to get bored with roleplaying on FH, not out of the hate of roleplaying but because of the lack of "competance" (can't spell at the moment), but yeah...it's odd.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Kamaete on April 01, 2011, 03:20:26 pm
I am really guilty of the 90% devoted to introspection and clothes.  And I very rarely do any leading, but follow with reactions. :C  That's incredibly dissatisfying of me.  Oh, and the pretty color thing, though I try to make it read-able.  I must now fiddle with my YLL post, to edit out 50% of the introspection and clothing details.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: ColonelHamilton on April 01, 2011, 09:51:56 pm
Whaaaaat? No, nothing wrong with your post.  Stuff happens in your post!
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Robin_Wolfieh on April 02, 2011, 05:49:10 pm
In roleplays, I learn and pick up a few things as I go along with it. Problem is that there are too many people looking for "shortcuts" and not putting much detail into their posts (in Roleplay in-game, sometimes forums but I like participating because of the fear of "Superior-ness" and intimidation) or too much detail.

-Somewhere in between would be nice.
Although some people don't read forums when they said among the lines of "Leaving Feral Heart" (I did because my laptop was corrupted and stated that I occasionally "sneak" on my mother's monitor/desktop/computer) and some people throw tantrums when they leave and poof back in. Look once in a while.

By the way, I don't favor much on "chat speak", "leets" or the like, but I use "chat speak" whenever I feel is necessary (maybe this should be "stickied" because its so informative and thorough).
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: ColonelHamilton on April 04, 2011, 06:40:34 am
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Kamaete on April 05, 2011, 01:42:55 pm
D'aw, Alexander.  My post is okay because I read this and edited.  But now I know what to look out for (and must edit an application. >.>  Though that was unintentional...) and I thank you immensely for making this.  Off to actually become active once more.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: FoxfangPitbull on April 05, 2011, 02:36:23 pm
-looks happier by the second-
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: ColonelHamilton on April 10, 2011, 12:39:09 am
24) Disrespecting Boundaries.  Everyone has different subjects that make them uncomfortable.  Some people wince at the most benign curse word; others will do anything up to an including NC-17 roleplay, but have a particular kink they find disturbing. It's inevitable that at some point in time, your or another will accidentally trespass through someone's boundaries and make them uncomfortable.  If that happens, absolutely respect the feelings of the person who is uncomfortable. Don't try to pressure them into playing something they don't want to play.  If you want to roleplay subjects getting into very violent or sexual territory, talk about what is an is not acceptable in advance.

25) Spotlight Hogging.  In roleplay, it is hard for too much attention to be focused on multiple characters at the same time. Instead, only a few characters get to be in the spotlight at a time.  Spotlight hogging involves always trying to take scenes or roleplays in a direction that will result in your character getting attention.  When Character A is making a tearful confession to the group about how she betrayed them but she is sorry, that isn't the time for your character to suddenly pass out from their  their dangerous illness or reveal his angst filled past. If roleplaying with a partner, don't always push for plots surrounding your character while rejecting and and all ideas that give the attention to someone else. In short, be fair.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Kamaete on May 05, 2011, 05:34:31 am
Hey Alexander... I used these guidelines at my roleplaying website.  * thestreuv.webs.com * If that's okay.  You write it so epically I couldn't resist.  Credit is given, of course. C:
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Feralia on May 24, 2011, 06:29:00 pm
Alex, you're a genius!

Anyways, we can hope for better RP for now. I am strictly following this etiquette now, as I don't want to step on other's nerves.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Aval0n on June 05, 2011, 07:06:22 pm
Thank you so much! Feral Heart is in dire need of this if you ask me!  :)

Though I do understand that sometimes people have to go or GTG, but it is quite irritating when someone decides to quit a role play in the middle of it, perhaps if they are bored of the RP or things in the role play aren't going their way. It can be a problem too if your character was interacting with their character.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Flatsoda on June 17, 2011, 12:58:12 am
 THANK YOU. /karma/
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: zee-cat on June 19, 2011, 12:07:17 am
Ooh, I've been looking for something like this. I don't have a lot of experience RPing, so this is definitely helpful.
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Kreapaer on June 23, 2011, 05:25:16 pm
Agreed.  I barely RP on FH, infact I haven't even started on even some of my favorite from experiance in IT and IT forums.  Why?  I remember how fawking anoyying it all was.  Especially when you somehow pick up an illiterate eleven year old, since it's not like you know whose going to show up when you are recruiting RP members in an open area.
I also notice that there are no Dimensions, or other realms that RPers can escape to.  People now RP openly, flooding the chat along with other people having their own conversations.  (I am ranting) The map doesn't help a ton, either, since I remember just yesterday getting utterly lost in the Plains, having no clue where a portal was or where other people were.  All I could 'see' was a Warrior cat clan RPing in general. 
Title: Re: Roleplay Etiquette
Post by: Evanescence on July 05, 2011, 09:14:18 pm
I came from WQ, which you know will not allow " in chat. The first RP in FH I was in, was like this: -The feral lion scopes out his territory, his claws pushing out. "I see you," he smirked at the mouse- I was stunned... I was used to rping like this: she walks over to the lake

Now I RP with much more class and such. It really confused me when people do not put " in rp. I REALLY hate it when a certain person rps like this: you dont like me anymore crys. It makes me want to rip my hair out. I would say, "You dont like me anymore," she sniffles.

Am I the only RP nazi out there? >_<