Feral Heart

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Title: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: ZombieKitteh on February 13, 2014, 06:55:23 pm
I'm not sure if this is in the right location, move it please staff if needed.

I never thought I'd see myself making a thread about Kovu and expected one to be made already, but see none. Apparently Kovu updated his Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/kovulkd) page today with a update.

(http://puu.sh/6UFcS.png)

I guess his Facebook app game, Feral Tales was released and with some poking you can find it. It doesn't work for everyone as I guess a lot of people don't see it loading. (But he's working on fixing it)

Anyways I'm curious how you guys feel about this? What do you think this will mean for FH? Clearly he doesn't want to deal with it right now (I can't blame him). I guess this new game is similar to FH with map making and chatting, but.. I don't know how I feel about a Facebook app game. I know I probably wont be playing it for that reason.

I hope personally FeralHeart will continue to stay online and I'm very curious to know how all of this is going to play out over time. This thread wasn't meant for drama, please don't bring that here or any arguing.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: WhiteLightHeart on February 13, 2014, 08:34:32 pm
The staff is aware of this, and we are.. About as intrigued as you are.

This thread was originally locked for fear of drama starting, but.. We're going to unlock it, and keep it this way so long as no "OMG OMG GO ATTACK KOV GO ATTACK THE STAFF FOR SOURCE CODES OMG" things start up, or anything that breaches game or forum rules.

This is unusual. It's nice to see he's waking up a bit, but he seems to not want much of anything to do with FH. I find this questionable, especially without giving us any access the source code, but either way this will not affect FeralHeart on a physical level. Razmirz is the server master, and so he has full right to keep FH open and running as usual. So this is no matter, and you guys have nothing to worry about in that respect. FH will be okay. c:

If he is working on Feral Tales again, then that's cool. It'll no doubt be a Facebook-ish version of FH, but I suppose we'll have to wait and see how this one goes. As with game development, as well, it will likely take some time.

Still, though. "Surprise?" Curious indeed.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: Delija on February 13, 2014, 08:41:28 pm
I'd be lying to say that this isn't making me curious as well. It will certainly be interesting to see how this all plays out.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: Dirrane on February 13, 2014, 08:47:05 pm
I am praying he doesn't make it opensource as he did with Impressive Title. It will ruin it all, in my opinion. You'll see a bunch of FeralHeart servers, and this standalone, unique game won't be as unique anymore. It's great to see Kovu back on track though. All the best wishes to him. c:
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: WhiteLightHeart on February 13, 2014, 08:53:16 pm
I am praying he doesn't make it opensource as he did with Impressive Title. It will ruin it all, in my opinion.
Well, if FH's code goes open source, if anything that does mean that the original FeralHeart will have access to it, as well, which means that it could be properly updated. So it's not necessarily a bad thing.

While it could mean that we'd have a few similar games like FH running around, I honestly don't think that it would be the same or as easy as it is to make an IT server. For one, FH's code is a lot more difficult than IT, and it's also stronger. So it requires more than your run-of-the-mill skill to run it. We also have a fairly large community backing us, so while there may be some games appearing if it were to go open source, I don't think it would be anything to genuinely worry about right away.

Although.. I think it would be fairest for the code to be given to the original game to begin with. We'll just have to see.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: AlphaEclipse on February 13, 2014, 08:54:02 pm
I'd be lying to say that this isn't making me curious as well. It will certainly be interesting to see how this all plays out.

I have to agree with Del here, I'd being lying if I said I wasn't curious. x3

But anyways, it's quite a suprised seeing this topic here; It was very unexpected that is, unless you follow Kovu on Facebook. It's very nice of him to keep the community updated on what's going on and whatnot everyonce of while. I can't wait to see how his new Facebook game, FeralTails (or 'Feral Tails'), plays out. I myself am probably not going to play it as much because I don't use Facebook, but I'm sure many people will find it quite enjoable. 

It's up to Kovu wether he will release the source code, and everyone should respect that.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: ZombieKitteh on February 13, 2014, 08:58:14 pm
Ah, thankyou for unlocking this. I appreciate it greatly. uwu I just really feel the need to talk about it.

I'm not sure what I think. I did manage to load this Facebook game, it uh.. wasn't my cup of tea? Like I said earlier, I wont be playing it really at all. The fact that FeralHeart will remain up makes me happy, even though I have my ups and downs I'd hate to see it poof. And do appreciate staff and Raz keeping it online and alive.

Really I'm very curious to see how this goes. I hope he does contact you staff and work something out or talk to you guys. Because it'd be nice to have him back updating the game, which doesn't seem like a priority to him right now. I'm very conflicted if I'd be ok with him making it open source. At one side it'd help staff update and grow the game in itself. In another sense other people would have the coding to do as they please, make their own servers and potentially spread out the FH community. As much as I'd love to see a working map maker on an IT like server, I just feel conflicted.

In the end I'm just glad Kovu has made an appearance. Everyone will stop rumors now and honestly nice to see he is indeed alive and well. In the end it's Kovu's choice what he does with the code or how he uses it.

I'd be lying to say that this isn't making me curious as well. It will certainly be interesting to see how this all plays out.

I have to agree with Del here, I'd being lying if I said I wasn't curious. x3

But anyways, it's quite a suprised seeing this topic here; It was very unexpected that is, unless you follow Kovu on Facebook.


I actually don't follow him on anything. I heard about it this morning on a IT server I play and figured everyone here on FH deserved to know about him being back. uwu
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: Dirrane on February 13, 2014, 08:59:26 pm
Ah, I see where yer' coming from, Whitey. I think it would be better to only give out the source code to FeralHeart staff though, to keep the game updated but also.. well, you get my point, right? c;
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: Shally on February 13, 2014, 09:35:32 pm
Arf just to be clear LKD isn't "back" on FH ^.^
I know that wasn't what you meant as the thread topic, but just to be sure if someone would missunderstand ;3

As for the source code, in the end that is up to him - and which ever decision he makes it might bring both good things and bad things I suppose. We'll just have to wait and see, he will probably be busy with his new FB-game-app for now :3

I understand many wants and needs to discuss this, just, as White mentioned, try not to go haywire over this subject it nor breach any of the forum rules c:
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: Redlinelies on February 13, 2014, 09:49:15 pm
I must say, it's great to see any actual post from him himself somewhere at all after all these years.

In here it's his words rather than contacts to go around and just talk crap all day long about how this game, staff and community isn't worth anyones time. Though some things said in this posts I hope he comes to senses with, especially after being gone all this time from the game and community itself, he's not really updated himself on any of the matters that has been going over the years and gotten a proper insight of what it has meant to keep this game running, as far as this post goes and what is written about FeralHeart, sounds more something like it's based on just plain information taken from certain people that jumped off the FeralHeart train long time ago to spend time on IT servers and create their own thing, so I hope He'd ask the right people about this eventually to avoid even further miscommunication.

You lots got in plain simple text from himself right there, he's there, he will be working and finishing up the other game on his own accord and left FeralHeart where it was. There's no plans for FeralHeart right now and things will remain as is, the functionality of the game likewise so. People can finally stop staff bashing for things that are simply out of their control and people from other communities hopefully will stop claiming things he said, done or will do without any proof because those could be driving people up the wall as he could speak for himself now. This has been an indirect issue for a long time on many levels and made keeping this game up and running in a good manner a more than difficult task.

It's a very mixed bag still about FH's future and what has happened over the years and I will simply try to hold to my senses for now, I could write too many pages about this subject alone. Meanwhile the staff will be here and take care of the community like they always have and make sure it runs as it should.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: Kerriki on February 14, 2014, 12:56:04 am
As the others have said, it's great to finally hear from Kovu and I can't wait to see what will happen next. ^^
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: Lady_Alizarin on February 14, 2014, 01:33:45 am
It's good to hear from him. Seems like he made himself very clear that he has no plans for Feral Heart for now. All we can do now is see what happens.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: longjump on February 14, 2014, 01:57:00 am
Good for him! I hope his new game can stay free of drama like Fh, and the general negativity found in the game. It's refreshing, despite being new and unpolished, I already love it.

Good for him. Personally I don't care if he gives the code to anyone, although if he hasn't yet I don't see why he would. It's his game and really his choice if he wants updates to it or not. ^^
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: WolfQueen on February 14, 2014, 02:03:41 am
I'm very glad he finally made an update! I hope he finishes Feral Tales soon and maybe update this game a little after that! :^)
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: baltowolflover on February 14, 2014, 02:35:52 am
Yay. 83 Hopefully he'll update FH a bit.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: Jango_Fett on February 14, 2014, 02:40:09 am
 First Reaction: It's about time.

Second: Leave it as is.  Brilliant.

Third: Maybe he'll open-source it to the staff....

So yes, mixed basket to me.

I am a bit...... peeved, it took so long.
Don't jump on me for saying that, please.

But, I suppose its better then... being in the... dark?

Possibly.
 
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: liontamer1 on February 14, 2014, 03:21:41 am
First Reaction: It's about time.

Second: Leave it as is.  Brilliant.

Third: Maybe he'll open-source it to the staff....

So yes, mixed basket to me.

I am a bit...... peeved, it took so long.
Don't jump on me for saying that, please.

But, I suppose its better then... being in the... dark?

Possibly.
 

I can understand where you are coming from.

Yes, he left us, but isn't it better to know that he is thinking of FeralHeart rather than just throwing it away?

He never said he wouldn't update it or hand the codes over.

But you're right, he could've done it sooner.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: Vespian on February 14, 2014, 04:08:48 am
How interestin', to say the least.
I'm pleased to see sir Kovu is doin' well thus far. I wish him luck with his game.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: ringoluver on February 14, 2014, 04:35:15 am
Well, I like to see him alive and active in all honesty.

I feel him a bit ignorant to talk about things about FH when he hasn't been here for two years, but you all know what is true and what isn't.

As for the possibility of him releasing the source code... I'd rather he just give it to us, rather than public, but I really don't think I will. I think it would be everyone or no one. But for now, it seems no one will get it and we can play with this... thing. That's well, not really in my taste. It seems like you can't do anything you can't already do in FH.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: shusuke on February 14, 2014, 04:38:56 am
I'm quite happy for him that he's released such a cute little game that's accessible to so many people. Facebook has a lot of people that play a lot of games, so those that become interested might give him new feedback that deviates from what people may have seen or wanted in FH, which is good. It's new, clean feedback without much influence to his previous works and allows FT to grow as its own thing, and I really like that.

With how he's stated that he's going to 'leave FH as it is for now', so there's not much to go on that really. His game his choice and by setting it aside to focus on FT, I think it's a step in the right direction. New projects really help people grow.

The game itself is incredibly cute. It needs work, but it is absolutely adorable and I look forward to seeing where he goes with it.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: WolfQueen on February 14, 2014, 05:24:07 am
Aye... "Leave feralheart as it is for now"....

First reaction is,
That'll be in a year, wont it?

Second.
Or maybe he'll retreat into shadows

Im having very mixed feelings on this O-o

I just strongly hope for him to post something about giving the staff source codes, for proper updates. I would feel sunken if he released it into the wild(open), for then Feralheart truly wouldnt be unique and stand out from the other games out there. But it is good he atleast said "for now", and he has FT to work on and get his gears turning again...then maybe people on facebook would realize the original FH and spread the word to people who have no idea in FT what FH even is..... Truly, my strongest opinion to that fluff is to give Staff source, and maybe leave a little post to say hi to all he abandoned. There's many things staff could update FH with, such as animations like the IT ones. New manes and tails too perhaps.

I apoligize to anyone reading my comment if it was confusing, I just have very mixed feelings and one strong opinion pushing them behind.
He has a reason he's being hesitant about giving the source code to the staff, but if I say it publicly, I would get bashed/banned on the spot.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: Vacio on February 14, 2014, 08:34:40 am
I'm fine with whatever he wishes to do with his games, to be honest.
And glad he's getting his new game out there, although I personally won't be playing it, I'm not a big fan of Facebook and being a "browser" type game kinda just makes me think of Wolfhome, (It's not really 'my thing') but it's still in the earlier stages and now that's it out there it may get alot of nice updates and become a very fine game. I wish him luck with that.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: Dirrane on February 14, 2014, 08:44:23 am
Of course I may be wrong, but I would say Kovu remembers us, but isn't ready to put that remembrance into action. Near one or two years ago, he gave us items, wings, new maps, some markings and other little things. That was it. It's 2014 now and through the years there has been rumors and lies spreading about how Kovu doesn't care. But if Kovu didn't care, he would have given the source code to the staff, right? So maybe somewhere in that little fluffy heart of his, he does. He's busy with his office job as he said, and he wants to continue with new projects and such. We can look forward to Christmas, even. That's when we got our last update.

Anyway, I have an idea and I'm going off to make a little thread about it now.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: flomfloat83 on February 14, 2014, 12:14:46 pm
I tried out his game today and it's okay, atleast you can make maps more easily now. ^^
Anways, its good to know he's alive and there is a chance that FH staff will get the sourcecode?
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: meeeea on February 14, 2014, 12:30:28 pm
Interesting, I'm glad Kov made an announcement at least. I'll just wait in the shadows and see what happens.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: Flying cow on February 14, 2014, 01:42:39 pm
Well, this is his game, if he wants to release the source codes, so be it. |D I think we all should at least say welcome back to the land of the living. :3
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: longjump on February 14, 2014, 02:32:38 pm
Well, I mean, it IS his game. Maybe he just doesn't want people changing it? I mean who knows what might be added.... or,eh, removed, if it was given. Or he's just waiting for a wave of "OMG KOVU GIVE US SOURCE U LEFT" to come and calm down before he does anything?
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: SteampunkWolfdog on February 14, 2014, 03:09:11 pm
*Waits patiently for events to unfold.*
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: WhiteLightHeart on February 14, 2014, 03:26:18 pm
... and there is a chance that FH staff will get the sourcecode?
It's very difficult to say. He has yet to speak with FH staff directly regarding any of this.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: Dirrane on February 14, 2014, 03:54:38 pm
*Waits patiently for events to unfold.*

We should indeed imitate yer' actions as of now.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: SL138197 on February 14, 2014, 04:09:28 pm
Woah, this will be interesting...Glad to see he's waking back up a little bit.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: Jango_Fett on February 14, 2014, 06:24:30 pm
First Reaction: It's about time.

Second: Leave it as is.  Brilliant.

Third: Maybe he'll open-source it to the staff....

So yes, mixed basket to me.

I am a bit...... peeved, it took so long.
Don't jump on me for saying that, please.

But, I suppose its better then... being in the... dark?

Possibly.
 

I can understand where you are coming from.

Yes, he left us, but isn't it better to know that he is thinking of FeralHeart rather than just throwing it away?

He never said he wouldn't update it or hand the codes over.

But you're right, he could've done it sooner.


Yes, but to a very fine point.

Now don't go around hating on me or quoting me like a mad man, just, hear me out.


It is one thing, to go off for a few months and then come back, that is fine.

But, this is YEARS we are talking about.
And, I am almost wishing he hadn't spoken out, for some reason, my moral compass is spinning out of absolute control.

I have no clear idea WHY he suddenly had breathing room to talk to us and everything.
It makes no logical sense.

'Rant' slightly over.
 
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: Riku. on February 14, 2014, 07:34:05 pm
Okay.

So I love the fact he is back and healthy, and I think giving the source code to the public would be amazing, And I think the IT servers would die out due to the fact everyone would be playing the FH servers instead that of the IT ones. Overall I think it's a great idea due to the fact it would be a lot more popular to the public and more successful, But it's up to Kovu to release it or not either way I'm in his favor but Overall I think it would be a wonderful idea!

And if he gave the staff the source codes so they would be able to update it and place in a lot more stuff they where going to and fix the glitches so I would think it would be best if Kovu handed over the code to the staff due to the fact that they partly own it but Kovu mostly owns it all over, Anyway Pardon my excessive rambling. But I think releasing the source codes to the public would be a wonderful idea and well again it's his game. But I believe he will release it if it's DOESN'T get bashed or harshed upon the others who oppose the idea of releasing it.

And let's hope for some updates in the near future. <3
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: Whisperingwaves on February 14, 2014, 09:07:06 pm
(http://i57BannedImageSite/2v9sw2b.jpg)
Heres just some info I read on Facebook about it, and he is still debating wether he is going to release it or not, and I agree that it would be really Awsome to have a update to FH, but as White said, it is completely up to him.


Now I will stet my opinion lol, I'm so happy to see Kov is coming back, or may be, I would love to get to know him and chat with him for awhile. I feel everyone in FH would agree. FH is like my second home and if Kov comes back, it would be even better. If he does come back and updates the game I wonder what he will include in it, more emotes? Maps? Models? I'm just as stoked as you guys and I'm quivering with excitement, I would love to meet him.

Also, as he stated in the picture above, saying he may release the code, I agree with some members about the uniqueness of having a single server, it makes it easier to chat with others then bouncing server to server. Also, I think it wouldn't feel right to have multiple FH servers everywhere.

The FH staff work hard to keep this game running smooth and members happy, but there is a limit to what they can do, and I understand them not wanting this to go up to the roof with OMG! statements. I must say though, I love what our community does, and will Kov be moved to a admin like Red when he rejoins? We can never tell until it really happens, as I like to say, "one step at a time."
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: WhiteLightHeart on February 14, 2014, 10:22:10 pm
The FH staff work hard to keep this game running smooth and members happy, but there is a limit to what they can do, and I understand them not wanting this to go up to the roof with OMG! statements. I must say though, I love what our community does, and will Kov be moved to a admin like Red when he rejoins? We can never tell until it really happens, as I like to say, "one step at a time."
Well... LKD essentially stated that he held responsibility only for Feral Tales (and not FH). I question this on its own (in regards to FH, since we are still "stranded" without him, even if he is active outside again), but in this case, it would be a situation left between LKD and the current adminstrators if he did decide to come back to FH. Which he seems to have little interest in, right now..
I don't like for the sake of our community, but these are the cards we're dealt..

When he was here two years ago, from what I understand he did very little with the staff-- he was the developer and creator, and he added to the game, then sat back and enjoyed it once in a while (which is okay, and it's not a bad thing at all). But he left staffing largely to the main administrators at the time (mostly Rak$ha at that time, and later Red when she left), and so. Seeing that LKD didn't "administrate" so much, which includes handling much of the social aspects of the game, I'm unsure what position he would "officially" be if he returned. However, positions and titles are only positions and titles. How one carries themselves and treats the community is another respect altogether.
But again, that would be something for him and the staff (mostly Red and Raz) to discuss if he returned to FH.

If he did return, though, I would just hope something would be done so the staff can take care of the game fully if he disappears again.
The game will always be LKD's creation, and he does ultimately have say, but with this responsibility also comes accountability, which I feel has been neglected and critically overlooked.

But again, we are not at this point, so while it is an interesting topic for speculation, everything is still the same in FeralHeart at the moment.

*Snuggles everyone in this thread* Be at rest, my loves. o:
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: gold feathers on February 14, 2014, 11:55:03 pm
Firstly, sorry to disappoint you guys but it looks like Kovu made up his mind, it might be just that he's dragging things on but honestly his post seems a little worrying, although I must say its good to hear from him.

I originally posted the info in the 'other games' as i streamed a little into the off topic. Here (http://www.feral-heart.com/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=2&jfile=index.php&topic=43312.10)

Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: gold feathers on February 15, 2014, 12:53:36 pm
I think this thread was unlocked to keep people from bothering Kovu for the source code. I think Kovu should be left alone unless he decides to come back and change things around. I doubt he will make such  decision in 1 day and so hopefully he will think thoroughly before making his final decision whether to leave FH or to come back.

However, what worries me is tht he mentioned 'opensource' meaning like IT is now open source to everyone... I don't know if I understood it wrong or what but it does seem a little worrying.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: lindaminda on February 15, 2014, 02:53:26 pm
I guess It's nice to see that he is alive.
Im happy to see him at least on Facebook again.
Yes we would be really happy if he gives us source code, but It's all up to him.
It's better for us to leave him alone since we know he is 'back' so he can make up his mind and first, finish his Feral Tales game..
That's only my opinion.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: gold feathers on February 16, 2014, 12:31:17 am
Agreed Dundee, no matter how nice it would be to get the source code, we have to keep in mind that he made the game and he is the 'owner' and only 'he' can make the final decision. But it doesn't mean we should give up hoping for the better! c:
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: Corolonaceous on February 16, 2014, 01:23:33 am
Glad to hear he's alive after these few years of silence~
But sorta having mixed feelings about this. :/
FH has been around for a while, and I never hope it closes, because I've been here for quite a while. :3 I'd hate to see it go.
But also, if there are a few bugs that are floating out there and they need fixing.. what will this mean for the players? The FH staff are active, and I'm sure that Raz could so these, surely, but I don't know this for a fact. Seeing as how he's the game master, and has total control whether the server is online or offline, I'd think he could fix minor bugs.

But personally, it's his codes, and what he does with them is totally up to him.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: WhiteLightHeart on February 16, 2014, 02:57:23 am
Glad to hear he's alive after these few years of silence~
But sorta having mixed feelings about this. :/
FH has been around for a while, and I never hope it closes, because I've been here for quite a while. :3 I'd hate to see it go.
But also, if there are a few bugs that are floating out there and they need fixing.. what will this mean for the players? The FH staff are active, and I'm sure that Raz could so these, surely, but I don't know this for a fact. Seeing as how he's the game master, and has total control whether the server is online or offline, I'd think he could fix minor bugs.

But personally, it's his codes, and what he does with them is totally up to him.
As we've said, FeralHeart won't be going anywhere, so it is safe as it has been. Raz has taken care of it for three years, now, with or without Kov, so there's nothing to worry about in that respect.

As for certain bugs.. It depends on the category. Most issues that could be worked out with the server alone have been addressed and resolved (at least the major ones such as most group text glitch, deleted groups, party leaks, map servers crashing, etc.).
But for game glitches on their own, we would need the source code in order to properly fix or update the game.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: unnbrellas on February 16, 2014, 03:45:19 am
Glad to see Kovu is working on Feral Tails- I'm interested to see how it works out for him. Nice to hear from him now and then.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: ProudSpirt on February 16, 2014, 10:45:22 pm
I went on FB to see his profile , and game  :) It looked like FH , but . . .  different  :-\ I woill not be playing on it tho as FB isn't my place  :-X
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: gold feathers on February 16, 2014, 10:51:17 pm
Yeah, its just a fragment telling us that he still thinks about Feral Heart c:
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: peete on February 18, 2014, 12:32:16 am
Ugh, too bad I can't play Feral Tales. I don't have a Facebook -.- Kind of disappointing; he's makes a new game but it's not like all of us can play it.

Now about FH...Eh, I don't really know what to say about that. He said he would put it aside, and focus on Feral Tales first. So that means that after he's made more progress with Feral Tales, he'll come back to FH. So it's not like he's leaving us forever, right? Sounds to me like he'll come back.

Not to mention the fact that we all can still look forward to FH+, that Simba is working on. :)
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: magicfairy on February 22, 2014, 05:13:24 pm
It's nice for him to look up to FeralHeart now. But I hope he adds more species, but just not make it TOTALLY opensource cause that could mess up the hole FeralHeart game.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: Bellagirl5 on February 23, 2014, 02:11:46 am
Can kovu kill feralfart and put up SUPER impressive title
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: BlackLuna06 on February 23, 2014, 10:34:26 am
WELL.
It's been a while, has it not?

I've had a look at the Feral Tales, and while this game probably won't draw me in as much as FeralHeart, it looks very nice - if only in early stages. Facebook games aren't really my thing.

If Kovu intends to give out the code, he shall do so.

I, personally, think it would be a nice thought to give the MODs of FeralHeart an early viewing of said code, or to give it to them full stop to do with it what they will. This game hasn't had any updates in yonks, and it would surely attract more members and bring back old hands if there were new things to derp about with.

If the code becomes open-source, well. There will be a lot of similar games around no?
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: magicfairy on February 23, 2014, 01:16:36 pm
Well, if that happens Feralheart+ will probably be more epic than it was before.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: WolfQueen on February 25, 2014, 03:23:20 am
Can kovu kill feralfart and put up SUPER impressive title
/flamebait
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: unnbrellas on February 25, 2014, 03:44:51 am

If the code becomes open-source, well. There will be a lot of similar games around no?

I'd actually say no considering the coding for FH is much more advanced. Even if people did gather a group with skilled enough people, I think it would take them longer to finish the game. So, maybe 3-5 games would come out, but I don't think it would be like IT.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: Sir Equius on February 25, 2014, 04:57:54 am
Can kovu kill feralfart and put up SUPER impressive title
/flamebait

(http://k34.kn3.net/taringa/4/1/1/2/9/9/6/delorean31/84C.gif?5763)
D--> *Snags the flamebait*

It's really not necessary for Kovu to do such a thing. He clearly stated in his Facebook post that he was going to leave Feral Heart as is. In the end, it's all up to him on what he wants to do with Feral Heart. But it looks like he won't do anything to it any time soon.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: Abbi Normal on February 25, 2014, 06:43:53 pm
I hope FH doesn't get dismantled or disolved (as on, FH is empty and over because everyone's on alternate servers if it goes fully open source). I mean, I practically just got here, it would suck to have to pack up and leave again as soon as I finished moving in. :/

I don't like the trnd of gaming all moving to FB and mobile platforms. I much prefer the client-based kind of game, like FH or SecondLife. I basically use my FB as a box to put my more unpleasant family members in so they can't mess with the rest of my life, and only open it when I absolutely must. Even if I made a separate FB account, I just really, really hate being on FB. It feels...icky. Feral Tails could be made of solid gold and cause your comp to spit out candy, and I wouldn't hang around on FB to play it. If it wound up in the android app store, and still wasn't one of those "free to play" games that make you pay actual money for random things you need for the game like most app store games, MAYBE, but I'll take an old client game over a new FB/app one any day.

If he decides not to come back even when Feral Tails is finished (if it ever really is. App management tends to be an on-going work) couldn't he just make the code "open" instead of open, as in give the coding the project files directly to current FH staff, and let them take over the work he doesn't even want to do, but under a license/contract/other agreement that restricts access to only active coding staff? Basically "hireH them to do it in his stead, kinda sorta? Name a successor, you might say? That way, we get updates, he gets FH off his back, and there aren't 1000 FH clones running around, because it's not actually opensourced. It's still secret source, he just let a few more eyeballs in on the secret.
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: ~Stargazer~ on February 25, 2014, 07:39:33 pm
Hmm, I'm a bit curious about this myself as well. My main concern is the drama...
Title: Re: Kovu is back, say what now?
Post by: WhiteLightHeart on February 25, 2014, 09:07:18 pm
I hope FH doesn't get dismantled or disolved (as on, FH is empty and over because everyone's on alternate servers if it goes fully open source). I mean, I practically just got here, it would suck to have to pack up and leave again as soon as I finished moving in. :/
Well, as we've said before, FH isn't going anywhere for the time being. Even if LKD made it open source, we would access the codes, and probably be the first to do much with them, since we have the running game, as well as the three strong servers that are powerful enough to support it-- normal IT servers require much less server-power and money to maintain.
Not to mention, FH's code is stronger, more well-made for the most part (though it does have some fundamental flaws), but therefore requires more skill to set up. So I don't think there would be mini-FHs popping up everywhere if it did happen.
And even if another one did pop up, it might take some time for them to get onto their feet and get a userbase under them. If so, then cool, good for them--but it's far easier said than done, both by means of having the equipment to run it, and getting a full team of staff (including a reliable server master) that are there for the long haul (especially considering that we're three years old, and are still always looking for more reliable potential staff that show promising qualities before they're selected and trained).

So I wouldn't necessarily stress over this one. I'm sure there are others out there that would love to get their paws on FH's code other than us, but whatever happens, we're gonna be okay. c:

If he decides not to come back even when Feral Tails is finished (if it ever really is. App management tends to be an on-going work) couldn't he just make the code "open" instead of open, as in give the coding the project files directly to current FH staff, and let them take over the work he doesn't even want to do, but under a license/contract/other agreement that restricts access to only active coding staff? Basically "hireH them to do it in his stead, kinda sorta? Name a successor, you might say? That way, we get updates, he gets FH off his back, and there aren't 1000 FH clones running around, because it's not actually opensourced. It's still secret source, he just let a few more eyeballs in on the secret.
This is also something we've been debating back and forth for years, now, since he started his Feral Tales project. It's nice for him to branch out into what he is interested in, and if that's a FB game, then more power to him--but as it goes with anything in life, where people are depending on you, there is accountability that is necessary. So, when LKD left FH two years ago, there was an issue with accountability. We were worried for him, the whole community was, and not to mention we were left with our hands tied in regards to taking care of the game, including updating it for new material, but also for fixing bugs.
FeralHeart and its community are not just a toy you can throw away when you don't feel like playing anymore--there are people, here. There are things to care for, to either pass on to someone who will maintain it and care for it (giving him credit where credit is due, of course), or close it if you so wish for no one to have it at all. The latter of these is unlikely, though, since I think it would upset more than a few people.

I just hope he takes account for FeralHeart--it's not gonna run away, after all. We're all here waiting for him, and have been for years, and hope to work something out with him.

Though I think it is more likely that he'll release the code in an open-source way like he did with IT. Again, it's easier said than done, but right now it's just a waiting game.

We have FH taken care of in the mean time, though, so it's nothing to worry about. <3