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Help & Guidance => Game Help => Topic started by: Nakima on September 01, 2011, 05:22:02 pm

Title: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Nakima on September 01, 2011, 05:22:02 pm
I am making a preset and want to put a mane on it. Obviously I have gotten the preset to be visible, (sort of).. But you see when i look closely at the preset's mane it seems like you are looking into the center of it as shown here>>

(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/Sabeminth/screenshot_09012011_131031755.png)
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/Sabeminth/screenshot_09012011_131024976.png)
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/Sabeminth/screenshot_09012011_131020336.png)

And i don't know if its supposed to be like that or if there is something i can do to fix it. The other issue is when I'm standing in front of a waterfall my mane vanishes if the waterfall is a backdrop. Another example>>
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/Sabeminth/screenshot_09012011_131610001.png)
(You see how half the mane is behind the waterfall? That's what I mean)

But id also like to know if it's possible to add the mane shading to the mane without making the mane block-ish looking.

Thanks
Nakima~
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: liomangeoleo on September 01, 2011, 05:39:05 pm
nuzzles
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: ringoluver on September 01, 2011, 05:46:12 pm
Can I see the image of your mane mask?
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Nakima on September 01, 2011, 06:14:09 pm
I just threw something together but okay here>> (http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/Sabeminth/preset_5mane.png) its saved as a png image just like it said and this was done in GIMP
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: ringoluver on September 01, 2011, 06:21:07 pm
Leave the bottom all spikey, but fill in the rest of the black parts. First try painting it a solid color and then putting in detail.
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Nakima on September 01, 2011, 06:28:28 pm
it is, its just black on black with transparent bottom spike things
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Thunderheart on September 01, 2011, 06:59:42 pm
Thats a mat code error c:
Can you give me the code for your mane there please? I'm gonna correct it then.
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Nakima on September 01, 2011, 09:02:19 pm
the material file for the mane? and should i make it a mediafire download? It happens for all of the manes
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Thunderheart on September 02, 2011, 01:48:36 pm
nah, just copy and paste it here.
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Jayfeather55 on September 02, 2011, 02:34:15 pm

This happens all the time for me too >.>
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Nakima on September 05, 2011, 05:24:47 pm
do i post all of the mane's material files or what?
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Thunderheart on September 05, 2011, 07:03:37 pm
Oh my.
If it's that hard, just upload the mat file and post the download link o.o
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Nakima on September 06, 2011, 09:11:41 pm
it not hard, i just dont know which mat file you want DX
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Muindor on September 07, 2011, 06:02:15 pm
Go into the preset folder and open the preset-material-file with the editor.
Copy and paste the MANE-material-coding (it should be at the end) in your post.


Btw: I have the same problem and would love to have it fixed.
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Nakima on September 10, 2011, 08:02:54 pm
thanks, and i still dont understand which MAT file you want
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Thunderheart on September 10, 2011, 09:32:38 pm
*hust*
You know where you store your preset textures, right? (would be really really weird otherwise... lol)
& in that folder there is a .material file. Open it (using notepad) & copy all the text inside & paste it here.
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Nakima on September 11, 2011, 01:12:23 pm
ahh okay thank you

material preset_5_bodyMatL
{
   technique
   {
      pass
      {
         texture_unit
         {
            texture preset_5body.jpg
         }
      }
   }
}
material preset_5_bodyMatR
{
   technique
   {
      pass
      {
         texture_unit
         {
            texture preset_5body.jpg
         }
      }
   }
}
material preset_5_headMatL
{
   technique
   {
      pass
      {
         texture_unit
         {
            texture preset_5head.jpg
         }
      }
   }
}
material preset_5_headMatR
{
   technique
   {
      pass
      {
         texture_unit
         {
            texture preset_5head.jpg
         }
      }
   }
}
material preset_5_eyeMatL
{
   technique
   {
      pass
      {
         cull_hardware none
         cull_software none
         texture_unit
         {
            texture preset_5eye.jpg
         }
      }
   }
}
material preset_5_eyeMatR
{
   technique
   {
      pass
      {
         cull_hardware none
         cull_software none
         texture_unit
         {
            texture preset_5eye.jpg
         }
      }
   }
}
material preset_5_tailMat
{
   technique
   {
      pass
      {
         texture_unit
         {
            texture preset_5tail.jpg
         }
      }
   }
}
material preset_5_maneMat
{
   technique
   {
      pass
      {
         lighting off
         cull_hardware none
         cull_software none
         scene_blend alpha_blend
         depth_write off
         texture_unit
         {
            texture preset_5mane.png
         }
      }
   }
}

There we go, sorry about the confusion. I thought you ment something else.
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Thunderheart on September 11, 2011, 01:45:09 pm
Delete the code and paste this one instead:

Code: [Select]
material preset_5_bodyMatL
{
   technique
   {
      pass
      {
         texture_unit
         {
            texture preset_5body.jpg
         }
      }
   }
}
material preset_5_bodyMatR
{
   technique
   {
      pass
      {
         texture_unit
         {
            texture preset_5body.jpg
         }
      }
   }
}
material preset_5_headMatL
{
   technique
   {
      pass
      {
         texture_unit
         {
            texture preset_5head.jpg
         }
      }
   }
}
material preset_5_headMatR
{
   technique
   {
      pass
      {
         texture_unit
         {
            texture preset_5head.jpg
         }
      }
   }
}
material preset_5_eyeMatL
{
   technique
   {
      pass
      {
         cull_hardware none
         cull_software none
         texture_unit
         {
            texture preset_5eye.jpg
         }
      }
   }
}
material preset_5_eyeMatR
{
   technique
   {
      pass
      {
         cull_hardware none
         cull_software none
         texture_unit
         {
            texture preset_5eye.jpg
         }
      }
   }
}
material preset_5_tailMat
{
   technique
   {
      pass
      {
         texture_unit
         {
            texture preset_5tail.jpg
         }
      }
   }
}
material preset_5_maneMat
{
   technique
   {
      pass
      {
         cull_hardware none
         cull_software none
         scene_blend alpha_blend
         texture_unit
         {
            texture preset_5mane.png
         }
      }
   }
}

I removed the two scripts that caused the weird effect. One of them turned the shadows off and the other one removed the 3D appearance of the mesh, what causes the mesh to look flat and see-though in some parts.
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Nakima on September 11, 2011, 07:16:42 pm
well it fixed the transparency of the mane, but now theres this problem>> (http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/Sabeminth/screenshot_09112011_151348590.png)
I used gimp and locked the transparency, saved as png, ext. am i doing something wrong?
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Muindor on September 11, 2011, 07:21:51 pm
Yeah, you don't want to see the mane of my character now... X'D
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Thunderheart on September 12, 2011, 08:44:10 pm
*takes out the code of the most complicated preset she ever did*
The right code should be somewhere here.
When I erase the mask and the second layer and the animated stuff, it looks like this-
Code: [Select]
material preset_3_maneMat
{
technique
{
pass
{
scene_blend alpha_blend
texture_unit
{
texture SwiftMane.png
tex_address_mode wrap
filtering trilinear
}
}
}
}
Yeah... try it, perhaps?
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Nakima on September 13, 2011, 11:38:58 pm
nope
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Nakima on September 17, 2011, 11:16:53 pm
any other ideas?
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Jayfeather55 on September 18, 2011, 11:45:55 am

I know it has something to do with GIMP. I don't remember what it was though. Obviously, something with the transparent-ness.
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Muindor on September 21, 2011, 12:52:49 pm
Nope, I have the problem, too and I'm useing PhotoShop.
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Nakima on October 01, 2011, 01:24:08 pm
what other program can i use?
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Asheyx on October 01, 2011, 01:47:26 pm
I have the same problem all the time I want to add a mane to my presets D:
If I simply color over the ManeMask and don't add the mane shade it's working, but it looks blockish and ugly.
But when I add it, the mane looks see-through like that.
I think it's a weird glitch or something.
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Nuru_ on October 01, 2011, 04:08:06 pm
I have the same problem all the time I want to add a mane to my presets D:
If I simply color over the ManeMask and don't add the mane shade it's working, but it looks blockish and ugly.
But when I add it, the mane looks see-through like that.
I think it's a weird glitch or something.

o3o i'm not sure if i got what you meant but with the mane mask in GIMP you gotta go to;
Layer > Transparency > alpha to selection
and then you just color it in and it won't go over the transparency lines.
And also then with the mane shading you go to;
File > open as layers > go into Feral heart > media > Textures > Fmaneshade.jpg > open it > layer > Transparency > color to alpha (make sure the color in that box is white) > then press okay > go back to layer > transparency > alpha to selection. Then go to Select > invert. And then just rub out the part of the bottom where the transparency layer was. o3o.

Damn Hope you understood that sorry im bad at explaining. Oh and make sure you go back to layer and press "merge down", or gimp will get angry and refuse to save it.

And i also have the same problem with my name, then infront of a waterfall the mane suddenly partly dissapears, anyone know whats going on there?
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Asheyx on October 01, 2011, 05:52:43 pm
Quote
o3o i'm not sure if i got what you meant but with the mane mask in GIMP you gotta go to;
Layer > Transparency > alpha to selection
and then you just color it in and it won't go over the transparency lines.
And also then with the mane shading you go to;
File > open as layers > go into Feral heart > media > Textures > Fmaneshade.jpg > open it > layer > Transparency > color to alpha (make sure the color in that box is white) > then press okay > go back to layer > transparency > alpha to selection. Then go to Select > invert. And then just rub out the part of the bottom where the transparency layer was. o3o.

Haha thanks for explaining, but I don't use GIMP, I use Photoshop. But thanks anyway, I'll see if I can do something like that on PS :3
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Nakima on October 02, 2011, 05:00:08 pm
I cant thank you enough Nathan.H for your help with the shading and gimp. It took me a minute to figure out what you were talking about but i got it X3
 And thanks also Asheyx

Ive gotten to the point where the mane doesn't disappear behind the waterfall and it no longer looks transparent, however i keep running into this issue
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/Sabeminth/screenshot_10022011_125618126.png)
However, when i save the image it gives me the option to either export it or flatten it, above is what happens when i export it, and below is what happens when i flatten it.
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/Sabeminth/screenshot_10022011_125239158.png)
I don't know if this gives any sort of help to what may be going on but I thought it best to mention
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Nuru_ on October 02, 2011, 05:15:04 pm
If anyone's still having the see-through mane problem then open the preset[number] file in note pad and go to the bottom and replace the mane part with this;

material preset_3_maneMat
{
        technique
        {
                pass
                {
                       cull_hardware none
                       cull_software none
                       alpha_rejection greater_equal 128
                       texture_unit
                       {
                                texture preset_3mane.png
                }
          }
     }
}

And of course change the number to whatever number preset you're working on.
I got it from another thread, it works brilliantly.
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Asheyx on October 02, 2011, 05:26:43 pm
It's working fine now, thank you so much! :3 *gives karma*
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Nakima on October 03, 2011, 02:13:29 pm
Nathan I could kiss you now, you have just saved my life XD Thanks tons!
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Ruby1234 on October 05, 2011, 12:29:58 pm
Nathan, you ninja. xD

I'm going to say, If you're using the fluffy mane, that code doesn't work with it very well. You'd probably be better off with the first one for a fluffy mane.
Title: Re: Preset mane problems/questions (screenshots incuded)
Post by: Nuru_ on October 05, 2011, 05:55:49 pm
(*___*) I'm Loved.