Feral Heart

Game & Forum Discussion => Game Discussion => Topic started by: Sunpaw on September 24, 2011, 04:27:46 pm

Title: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Sunpaw on September 24, 2011, 04:27:46 pm
I know that similar topics have been started and discussed on the forums and in-game,but I really think it's about time that this issue is handled. As many of you know,FeralHeart is filled with several different kinds of trolls,like the people who spam,type in all caps in general chat,and perhaps the worst of them all,the ones who have cyber-sex in the middle of Bonfire Island. There was a time I was on FeralHeart and there was a large group of people participating in this little "party" (If you wish to call it that) and it lasted for an extremely long time. During this time people tried to find moderators but as usual failed to find any (Not very surprising huh?),people tried to get this group to stop what they were doing,including me. I know this game isn't really aimed towards young children,but at a pretty wide age range,but some young children DO go on FeralHeart and experience people having cyber-sex and people swearing a lot. This is a real problem and it's getting worse. This community is going downhill at a pretty rapid rate,and it would be a shame if FeralHeart ended up the same way Impressive Title did because of the moderators not ever being on enough to do their jobs and handle these things. I know that you can simply hit the block button,but it's just ridiculous that all of this is happening. I'm sorry for contributing to the constantly growing mass of ranting topics about the way the game is,and if the topic needs to be locked,then please do so or move it. The stuff that goes on in-game is getting out of hand.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Derby on September 24, 2011, 04:58:00 pm
It would be nice if at least they put a movie Count on there where you can only do a number of movie over a period of time.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Sunpaw on September 24, 2011, 04:59:51 pm
I agree,the movie spam is another issue that should be resolved and as soon as possible.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Rimfrost on September 24, 2011, 05:23:55 pm
Mods cant be on all the time. They have a life too, school, job etc.
And they cant either be overwhere on same time.

If you catching someone breaking the rules, please take a screenshot and send to an administrator.


But I agree with you, those people really need to stop with what they are doing :3
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Sunpaw on September 24, 2011, 05:25:52 pm
True,very true. But I just feel this has been going on for quite some time and it would be nice to have something done about it. ^^ It would be a shame though that if it got so bad that certain actions have to be removed from the game due to people acting in such an inappropriate manner.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Topaz on September 24, 2011, 06:33:23 pm
I agree with Sunpaw. This is getting out of hand. There aren't really any Moderators around to control them. I mean, people act like two year olds with perverted minds. And the amount of swearing is driving me mad. If their mad, they shouldn't say it aloud. Some people get on and see that stuff? This needs to be controlled. I know we have freedoms, but it's gone too far.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Tigg on September 24, 2011, 06:47:44 pm
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Sunpaw on September 24, 2011, 07:08:22 pm
I'll do that next time,Tigg,thanks. And yes it's extremely annoying. :)
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Redlinelies on September 25, 2011, 12:41:07 am
I will not sound like a complete bum here but these topics has been here before, and mods are doing what they can here and stating this doesn't get us that further.

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ended up the same way Impressive Title did because of the moderators not ever being on enough to do their jobs and handle these things.
Last time I looked it was for another reason xD

Thing is as mentioned above, there's mods, but they can't be everywhere. Instead of just saying there's people breaking the rules, take screenshots and report them to the mods and admins here on the forum instead. Mods cannot know out of the blue when something happened, what happened and how it started possibly, they're no gods. :/

There's bad things going on here and there on the game, there's no denying it, but you guys can infact make a difference by helping the mods.

We're sorry for the people behaving like this though.

Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: wolffox on September 25, 2011, 12:50:03 am
Raging hormones... stupid people... they're everywhere. Unfortunately it's one of those things that just can't be stopped unless you have an enormous team of mods online at all times which is out of the question unless they're getting paid for it, which they're not.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Robin_Wolfieh on September 25, 2011, 09:15:57 pm
*pokes number of users playing in-game*

See that number? It's ridiculous! That number stayed at the 400's, even close to 500, but 600?

-and yeah, there are some users abusing their privileges. -I wonder how long will it take until the "prnt scrn" button gives way due to abuse? XD

-Probably going to be one of those people that abuse it.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: EpiConflict on October 01, 2011, 05:22:20 pm
Spam most common thing on the internet, noobs which are the idiot who like trying to tick off people. You can tell them to stop but their too ignorant and obnoctious to listen to you, thats why i never bother unless i gets out of hand
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: EpiConflict on October 01, 2011, 05:23:28 pm
it gets out of hand
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Tigg on October 01, 2011, 07:38:24 pm
It cant get out of Hand if Users wouldnt -only- just complain BUT help us doing somthing against it.
How?
Report them to us as soon as possible!
Take a Screenshot and just make sure it shows the USERNAME (NOT charactername!) of that User and then send us the Screen where it shows how someone goes off the Rules.

DONT use the freaking "Report Button" cause our oh so great Gamecreator hasnt made it work, so its useless.

We need your Help also, so if you Report to us, it would make it more easier and enjoyable for all of us.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: -Angel- on October 01, 2011, 08:10:09 pm
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ended up the same way Impressive Title did because of the moderators not ever being on enough to do their jobs and handle these things.
Last time I looked it was for another reason xD
sorry if its off topic, but why did impressive title die? i never actually played it but i really wanna know dx
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Okapi on October 01, 2011, 08:31:41 pm
 I agree. All this behaviour is a bad influence to other players. I know the moderators are doing their best, and I hope this will be stopped soon.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: VivaBean on October 27, 2011, 03:28:31 am
Yeah, the mods are doing what they can. No doubt that they help a lot, but the fact of the matter is, it's really on our part to help contribute too. If we do see something, yes, take a screenshot. The mods cannot see everything. We can all play a part in helping it to die down a little.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Kyugima on October 27, 2011, 03:51:04 am
  One of the reasons this continues is because of those who take the approach of don't do anything about and and just leave. If you just leave it as it is, how is anything supposed to get done? Rather than make a thread like so many people have done and complain or make a thread saying they are leaving forever because of the appaling conditions or whatever, and those that think just blocking and pretending the issue doesn't exist

  Want to know the real reason this issue persists?

  1. People who pretend the issue doesn't exist and ignore it
  2. People who just block so they don't have to see it.
  3. People who just make threads and complain.
  4. People who make a thread and rage about appaling behaviour before claiming to leave forever.
  5. people who encourage it by "loling"

  Those people would have to make up for like +90% of the community. They never report, thus the issue never leaves because the mods can't do a thing about the issue unless they catch teh person in the act. How are mods supposed to do anything when all people do is either complain or pretend it doesn't happen?

  I mean yes, you should block them if their behaviour is bad, but at least report them first! Or they will never dissappear! No matter how much you claim everyone should just block them anbd ignore them will make them go away, the simple fact of the matter is IT DOESN'T WORK.

  And no matter how funny you find it, it is against the rules. report it. I honestly think that those who simply sit there and lol or whatever should get a kick too. They encourage bad behaviour and just make the issue worse.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: VivaBean on October 27, 2011, 04:11:37 am
I agree with Kyu 100% fully.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Moclam on October 29, 2011, 11:22:22 am
I agree how you're compleatly upset about all of the things that go down, because you have a right to be.
However I do give simpathy to the mods. You now how hard it is to be a mod? Extreamly.
I do think Kovu should do something about some things, however we also need to take in-account that he go's to school full-time, he has a girlfriend, and probably has another job besides the job he has to maintain the game.

I think the best thing we can do is not complain about it, but rather like Tigg said, send her the screenshots and do what we can.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Kyugima on October 29, 2011, 11:52:35 am
I agree how you're compleatly upset about all of the things that go down, because you have a right to be.
However I do give simpathy to the mods. You now how hard it is to be a mod? Extreamly.
I do think Kovu should do something about some things, however we also need to take in-account that he go's to school full-time, he has a girlfriend, and probably has another job besides the job he has to maintain the game.

I think the best thing we can do is not complain about it, but rather like Tigg said, send her the screenshots and do what we can.

He doesn't pay for the server and the forum, Razmirz does. As far as I remember. it might be a different admin taht runs teh forum...
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Moclam on October 29, 2011, 12:00:17 pm
...I never said anything about the server, or the form that had to deal with Kovu, but alright.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Kyugima on October 29, 2011, 12:08:32 pm
You were saying how he had a job to support FH, He doesn't pay for the server that keeps FH running, or this site, is all I'm saying.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Moclam on October 29, 2011, 12:11:04 pm
Bleh, my apologies. I ment to state that working on a game like this is like another job added to his life, but that he doesn't get payed for.

Haha, can you tell that I've been up 22 hours?
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Apoc999 on October 29, 2011, 02:56:56 pm
I agree... I hate specially...the spam...or the movie spam...but what is more weird are peopel making cyber-s.e.x in front of everybody....
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Redlinelies on October 29, 2011, 03:05:09 pm
Feel free to screenshot them and make a report and they will be taken care of right away.

We do appreciate the help we can get and the users do have the power to change and tell the rest around that its not ok to do this.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Lady Massacre on December 31, 2011, 01:25:13 am
I agree with you Sunpaw, such actions in the Feral Heart game must be stopped. I have met kids on this game that were under the age limit of thirteen, (I understand that those under thirteen can participate in this game so long as they get parents permission, please correct me if I am wrong about this,) and somethings that happen on Feral Heart are just not good for them, or anybody for that matter.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: scourge on January 01, 2012, 02:09:23 am
unfortunately this stuff happens in all games like or similar to FH and IT.
no matter how many mods there are it'll still happen somewhere.

it would be nice if we could stop this from happening but all we can really do(unless a mod is on or nearby) is block them :P
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Kyugima on January 01, 2012, 02:17:23 am
unfortunately this stuff happens in all games like or similar to FH and IT.
no matter how many mods there are it'll still happen somewhere.

it would be nice if we could stop this from happening but all we can really do(unless a mod is on or nearby) is block them :P

or even perhaps report it.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Silvertail12 on January 02, 2012, 07:00:59 pm
i dont think any type of trolling will ever be stopped. some trolls are banned, but new ones come and ruin the little amount of peace between the old troll a new one
trolls-.- pfft
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Windance on January 02, 2012, 10:18:21 pm
I agree... I hate specially...the spam...or the movie spam...but what is more weird are peopel making cyber-s.e.x in front of everybody....
    We have the option to not see the movie clip announcements...just fyi to people lol. And honestly, even with the actions we get, the whole "cybering" thing doesn't look like anything besides people sitting on top of each other, and if they are blocked, that's all it is. I think people really, reaaally overreact to pixels taking up the same space. If they are saying something horribly grotesque and disturbing  and not stopping when asked, of course you can screenie and report, since they should either take that business on a private map or at least not right next to a portal, but otherwise just block them.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Kyugima on January 02, 2012, 10:57:12 pm
I agree... I hate specially...the spam...or the movie spam...but what is more weird are peopel making cyber-s.e.x in front of everybody....
    We have the option to not see the movie clip announcements...just fyi to people lol. And honestly, even with the actions we get, the whole "cybering" thing doesn't look like anything besides people sitting on top of each other, and if they are blocked, that's all it is. I think people really, reaaally overreact to pixels taking up the same space. If they are saying something horribly grotesque and disturbing  and not stopping when asked, of course you can screenie and report, since they should either take that business on a private map or at least not right next to a portal, but otherwise just block them.

Cybering isn't buttswinging, it is actual S.*.X Roleplay kind of thing. Just thought I should point that out.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Windance on January 02, 2012, 11:04:29 pm
Cybering isn't buttswinging, it is actual S.*.X Roleplay kind of thing. Just thought I should point that out.
  That's what I thought, but I see a lot of people write "I'M GOING TO REPORT U!!!11" at people sitting on each other, or swinging around. So I'm never quite sure what it is defined as under the official rules. I've always thought that if they want to do...that kind of stuff, that's what private maps or whispering each other is for. No one should really be talking dirty in front of a crown in real life or a game if they aren't kidding. >.<
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: CrystalSprint on January 03, 2012, 04:04:04 pm
Sparkle dogs spasmodically dancing are hilarious. You guys need to calm down and stop being to anal about your made up universes.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: xShadex on January 03, 2012, 09:25:57 pm
^ Oh look! A wild troll! D:
I agree, it does need to be stopped, and I'm sure the mods are doing everything they can, (bless them.) But they can't be there 24-7. So ((YOU)) need to take action. That's all I have to say. o3o
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: the cub on January 03, 2012, 11:53:01 pm
Ok, well y'all just got to take screenshots of this stuff and mods can't always be on all the time and I understand that, I will spread the word to take screenshots of this to friends, hopes this helps all the mods and admins out there, good luck :P
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Magpie on January 04, 2012, 12:19:21 am
Again with the just report it? OK, mods I love you all so much. Your great people. But saying 'We can't be there all the time, just report it ^^' doesn't help. I know, you do have lives. But, whats the point of this game, if we don't have a good reporting system. OK lets say there is... 10 reports on the hour, every hour. thats 240 reports a day! There needs to be more mods. So people feel...well safer.

Anyways, I agree with this topic -lemoostache-
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: xShadex on January 04, 2012, 12:47:57 am
Again with the just report it? OK, mods I love you all so much. Your great people. But saying 'We can't be there all the time, just report it ^^' doesn't help. I know, you do have lives. But, whats the point of this game, if we don't have a good reporting system. OK lets say there is... 10 reports on the hour, every hour. thats 240 reports a day! There needs to be more mods. So people feel...well safer.

Anyways, I agree with this topic -lemoostache-

Neither does just expecting the mods to so it! The point of the reporting is to stop it, not just complain about it! The reporting system we have, if people would just stop being lazy and do it, is effective! The point of the game os to have fun, not stalk every troller out there.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Windance on January 04, 2012, 03:22:18 am
Neither does just expecting the mods to so it! The point of the reporting is to stop it, not just complain about it! The reporting system we have, if people would just stop being lazy and do it, is effective! The point of the game os to have fun, not stalk every troller out there.
This.

     Mods I'm pretty sure aren't PAID for their services, and they aren't supposed to babysit us. We are obligated to behave as at least young adults, and advise others to do the same. When we see someone behaving horribly and breaking rules, it is our duty to not just turn our heads and hope "a mod will deal with it." Just like in real life, Police aren't around every corner stalking us. It is up to call, aka screenie the issues and file a report to our "authorities."
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: tica on January 04, 2012, 09:15:58 pm
i agree i stopped playing for a long time because of that reason but when i started playing again nothing changed
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: xShadex on January 04, 2012, 09:43:12 pm
Neither does just expecting the mods to so it! The point of the reporting is to stop it, not just complain about it! The reporting system we have, if people would just stop being lazy and do it, is effective! The point of the game os to have fun, not stalk every troller out there.
This.

     Mods I'm pretty sure aren't PAID for their services, and they aren't supposed to babysit us. We are obligated to behave as at least young adults, and advise others to do the same. When we see someone behaving horribly and breaking rules, it is our duty to not just turn our heads and hope "a mod will deal with it." Just like in real life, Police aren't around every corner stalking us. It is up to call, aka screenie the issues and file a report to our "authorities."

Thank you for understanding! No one want's to be a leader here! Well I am!
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Sunpaw on January 16, 2012, 07:11:30 am
Alright, I'm replying to all of the crap I started here. Look everyone, I understand, moderators on this game have lives and have much better, more important things to do than watch over every little thing that goes on in-game. What I'm getting at here is that it seems no matter how many times someone reports a user, starts a thread like I have (My apologies, I'm normally a whiny person), that there's pretty much no decrease in the number of problems going on in FeralHeart. As for the "Quit complaining and report users, it's more effective" types of comments, why do you think so many people create threads like this to bring more and more attention to the issues that have gotten out of hand if the reporting is going so well? I'm not saying the mods aren't doing their jobs, I'm not saying that I expect them to sit behind a computer screen all day chasing little idiots in this game, and I'm not saying I dislike the mods. I respect them and I'm glad this game does have people that spend their time moderating. If you have a problem with what I've just stated, feel free to comment but please, for the sake of my sanity, don't go "ZOMFG Y U NO JSUT INJOY TEH GAYME AND LEEV DA MODURATURS ALOWNE!!!!1CAPS-RAGE11 YU DONT NO NUTHIN BOUT MODS SO GO 'WAY MEANIE FACE SUNPWA U SUX bEcUZ moDuRRATERZ R TEH SHIZZ nD U NO SMARTT U TINK U NO BOUT DIS GAM BUT YOU DONT TROLOLOLOL YOU FAILL KAWAII DESU NEKO BAKA-CHAN IMMA GET MY KITZOONES ON YU!!!!! kthXbaI" -Sincerely, that irritating person that caused this, Sunpaw.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: L0ner on January 16, 2012, 07:20:24 am
I know what you are talking about Sunpaw, people have been swearing at me when I ask them to stop doing inappropriate things, and I agree things really are getting out of hand.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Windance on January 16, 2012, 08:19:20 am
Alright, I'm replying to all of the crap I started here. Look everyone, I understand, moderators on this game have lives and have much better, more important things to do than watch over every little thing that goes on in-game. What I'm getting at here is that it seems no matter how many times someone reports a user, starts a thread like I have (My apologies, I'm normally a whiny person), that there's pretty much no decrease in the number of problems going on in FeralHeart.
As for the "Quit complaining and report users, it's more effective" types of comments, why do you think so many people create threads like this to bring more and more attention to the issues that have gotten out of hand if the reporting is going so well?
   They could add as many mods as they wanted, they could run as tight of a ship as they wanted, but like it or not, this of course would still happen. This is an issue on every game. Those that do the inappropriate things don't tend to get on the site, because they don't honestly care, they harass for the fun of it. So when posts like this are made...it's just preaching to the choir. For every person reported and kicked, there's bound to be a few more that find their way to this game. No matter what, they will exist. No amount of effort will get rid of them completely.



   Making more threads about this of course doesn't help at all, because everyone is already aware of this. Anyone who has ever played an online game, or gone on the internet, is aware of this. Anyone who was not aware of it is either new to the internet, or has been living under a rock.
   The only issue with the reporting system so far is that people tend to make more threads than actually report with screenshots. Unless there's a screenshot, it's just a "he said she said" argument, where the Moderator can't do squat. No evidence, no ban. And even if they are on the game, they can't read every local chat at the same time. Unless they somehow are at the same spot the issue is arising, there's no way they can do anything without some evidence. Having mods all over the place and stalking groups would be highly impractical...and somewhat "Big Brother" creepy.
   There needs to be a proper ratio of players and enforcement on the game. I will admit there should be a bit more mods in case something bad is happening, but people also need to be responsible for their actions. Reporting isn't tattling, and needs to be done. Just like how people write reports and have interviews after a crime. Having a cop around every corner isn't going to solve anything. It'd probably cause players to feel horribly uncomfortable and ruin the atmosphere of the game. Feral Heart isn't on military lockdown, it shouldn't have to be, and shouldn't feel that way.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: L0ner on January 16, 2012, 08:36:55 am
well put Windance.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: FoxfangPitbull on January 16, 2012, 11:42:56 am
Movie spam: turn off the movie options.
People do shizzam you don't like: block them.

Simples.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: Zaroque on January 16, 2012, 11:47:08 am
Movie spam: turn off the movie options.
People don't shizzam you don't like: block them.

Simples.

 As Foxfang said, 'tis ze simplez way oot.
KovuLKD 'blessed' us with the options to turn things off and on, they are there for a reason. c:
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: FoxfangPitbull on January 16, 2012, 12:27:33 pm
Yep, no point baaawing about it if the solution is already there...in front of you...staring at you...waving it's arms...and shouting at you.
Use yer heads =P
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: wolffox on January 16, 2012, 02:45:11 pm
Difficult issues sometimes have simple answers, no? But what happens when everyone has everyone else blocked except their friends, and when people movie spam while others are trying to use movies for their intended purpose? Then the functions for adding friends and playing/making movies would be irrelevant. Ignoring the problem doesn't solve it, and though I do agree there should be a few more mods INGAME (we've got a pretty good amount here on the forum because people here tend to behave themselves), having a mod around every corner, keeping an eye on every single player, would be creepy. That is, if it were even possible. There aren't enough trustworthy people here to have that many mods... and if there were, the problem wouldn't be here. And I'm not saying this is "the mods' fault." Every member of the staff does their job, and does it well. The staff isn't the problem at all. The problem is people who don't know how to govern themselves, therefore they need someone to step in and say, "no, what you're doing is bad, you can never come back here," and then take a banhammer to the face.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: FoxfangPitbull on January 16, 2012, 07:13:01 pm
A lot of it is just using your head, you can un block at a later date, you can take notice of people around you, asking you not to spam, etc etc.
People just need to get off their backside, look around and then look at themselves. It's not that hard.
Title: Re: This really needs to be stopped.
Post by: SPL2582 on January 17, 2012, 09:02:41 pm
I fully agree. Honestly, they gain nothing out of it-Nothing at all, probably the amusement of some, but for the other half, they gain disrespect. If one person was 'partying' and sent a friend request to me..Well, to be frank, I wouldn't accept it. :/

Sadly, this is why I don't like hanging around Bonfire. Fluorite isn't as bad, but can get out of hand in general. I'd say the place where the least inc indents happen are in-The Cape of Distant World, Ficho, and Ascension..I remember partying used to happen a lot in The Temple of Dreams. Dx

There are tons of people who play FH around the world-Sadly, I don't think a few mods can handle it all. I just think it needs to be stopped too.