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Hey everyone, I made a topic like this before, but now Im really edged off. Dimensions.. Why do we need them you ask? Oh i dont know, some of us have horribly old computers, and cannot afford to buy a new one JUST to play a game we love? I say, When you go into bonfire, its FILLED with people, which means mega lag, often disconnections, even computer crashes! What in I.T. made it good for everyone? Dimensions! in order to escape most of the lag and such, we used them for private roleplays, just to chill with friends, ect... But we don't have that in FH. 5 maps. Over 8000 people playing this. How does that work people? HOW? I, personally, would appreciate if we had dims back. It's not my game, i know, but it IS the player's duty to suggest ideas and such! And this is one of them ALOT of us would want back if its not wings, or items, or prey! dims dont have to be 1 - 100, it could be 1 - 50 or 75! Just dont have all of us crammed into one spot! "Oh, maps can replace dims" WELL, What if we don't know HOW to make maps? Or don't have the TIME and PATIENCE? Ah yes, the classic rant. Interesting, No? Yes, I get it. Kov, Raz, And the mods worked their butt's off just to make this game for us. I'm not being ungreatful or anything, All i want is my dimensions. That is all i ask. Every single day do i have to deal with the massive lag in-- Not one, ALL of the maps, Bonfire is the worst. "Oh well you can learn how to make maps.." Sorry, not gonna happen. Some of us don't have the time to spend on making maps nowadays, Thanks. So i now conclude this thread, I want dimensions back. And Admins/Mods, I would appreciate if you wouldn't turn down ideas so much as this, and some of the audience too. "TOO MUCH CODING!" Well it can be put in the next update to the game you know. Have a good day.
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I love you.
I whole-heartedly agree on the whole dims thing, and there's only what? Five maps (Such a disappointment, I mean, through-out the whole time of FH being created, only 5 maps were made? Didn't I.T. have like, a poop-ton??)
They've already taken the most fun part of the original I.T. game away (hunting/items/prey), and now they've taken dims?? I can understand the time it takes to make what we have - hopefully maybe in a future patch you guys will have made dims but if you're trying to get realism, making the game laggy and boring is just going to cut your player rate. Unless that's what they're shooting for... But if not, they should really try super hard to get some dims and items in.
Btw Kov, I know you don't read anything, but MAYBE the staff will run this by:
I know items are totally unrealistic, but dude - If you're allowing rainbow lions, items shouldn't be a problem. Another thing about this, isn't it suppose to be a player's choice type of thing? If a player wants a more realistic character, they don't have to wear the items, just like they have the choice of making a purple wolf or a brown lion. The only reason I'm being crazy about hunting rare drop items, is because that's the main thing I did back in I.T., so to see it gone is really disappointing... It's something about the game that has more of an achievement feel. Maybe we can get items as rewards for the missions? Wait - those are offline... D:<
Sorry for ranting on your post, Jazz!
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I agree 100% on this. Seriously, Staff. I'm sorry, but taking away dims was not cool. This is something that really angered me. I need dimensions, the 5 maps are not cutting it for me. Yes, I am glad that the game is even out, but the lag... I can't take it. Every map, there's some sort of lag. No matter what. I'm sorry, but it's true. Go ahead. You can get mad at me for even saying that. Go ahead. But I need dims back. "Maps will replace dimensions" will NOT cut it. I need a VALID reason for you guys to take dims away. They reduced lag, I see no point in taking them away.
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Ohohoho, Thats just fine. This IS a rant thread afterall. I want to see what they have to say about this one. If kov really wanted realism, We wouldn't have oddly colored felines or canines, You don't see a red and black dog running around in real life do you? Or a blue and purple cat? Not at all! Same thing with wings and items.. However, items are most of the reason I.T. was shut down.. I don't care for them much, but dimensions? Need. BAD. And you cant be blamed for putting your opinion/suggestion huh? No we cant, because we as the players have the right.
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Correct. But taking dims away... not a smart move at all, Staff. Not. At. All.
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I just wanted tyo say this, but the reason they don't have items is not because of realism, but they constantly got hacked by people trying to get items.
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Slightly off topic, but I have to object here; RunningWolf, saying that prey and items were the 'most fun part' is a selfish harsh thing to say. First of all, IT was originally designed to be a 3-D roleplaying game. Items were added in to help make characters more unique, before there was the options of markings. In fact, a large portion of the items were/are private items, made for specific characters, because they were part of the owners' character design (for example, Noa's water pouch, the sword, and many of the soul/shard/pawfire items). Prey and hunting was added in even later, mainly because some of the newer/non-roleplaying members complained that IT was 'boring'. The reason items were removed was because of the endless arguments and issues that came up around them. In fact, near the end of it's days, Impressive Title was hacked by someone who then distributed private items and blew out the sever, which in turn helped contribute to the premature shutting down of IT.
So before you complain about not having items or prey, think about all this first. And then remember, FeralHeart is still IN PROGRESS. The version out right now is constantly being updated and upgraded. More maps will be added, as well as new features, and while items will probably never be added in, I'm sure there will be plenty of other things that you guys can fight over.
For the sake of staying slightly on-topic, I do agree with having Dimensions, but only a few. No more than 10, I would say.
EDIT: After I typed this up, I read over some of the newing comments, and now I have to rant a little more. This time it's about maps.
It's not that hard to make a map. If you've ever made on on IT, you'll agree that making on on FH is a LOT less complicated. In fact, it's really quite easy. Click and drag, my friends. There's also something called a 'tutorial', many of which can be found on this very site. Now, before you start ranting about how it's 'too much effort' or you 'cant' be bothered'... Well, let me put it this way: If you have time to spend your time on the computer running around as a brightly colored lion/wolf, you probably have time to figure out how to make a map. Who knows, you might even enjoy the mental stimulation. If you're still too lazy to figure out how to make maps, then you shouldn't be complaining. It's like complaining that you're hungry while standing next to a fridge full of delicious food. It's just shallow.
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Everything you said about the items and such, yeah i agree with you on that. However, I HAVE made my own map before, Its extremely time consuming, and if you don't know how to put water, or hills, you will just end up with a failed map. Sorry if this sounds rude, but i am not spending hours of my time on a map i will most likely NEVER play in except ONCE. Yes, i have the time to run around as an oddly colored lion/wolf, because i want to. The game is still in developement, it just came out, I get it, Dims can be in future updates. If the staff even listens to us. When i have free time, I'd make maps if i had nothing else to do. We're talking in-game here. Everything is way too crammed, this needs to be fixed.
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I also want Dimensions back.
My two cents, though, is that we only need about three or four dimensions.
I don't want the community to get spread apart so much that I don't have any hope of finding anyone. That infuriated me, so I rarely played IT. Honestly, it was pretty sad. I wasn't the only one who had this problem, and it would be a great shame if FH had a seperated community like IT did.
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I have never played IT, but I would also be curious to see this. The maps kinda get boring. ;/
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I have to say, I agree. They should add a Friendlist fuction so that when you go on "Find" You see the dimension and map, I think that'd be helpful.
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I feel that adding more maps would be a good start to less lag and less rude people "claiming" dens. Spread poeple over other maps ratehr than different dims. :3
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More maps with more dens or dims.
The few maps we have are overcrowded, and its hard for some of the less-computer-savvy members to install custom maps made by friends. (Without beating them up for not understanding things. D:<)
The dens are also an issue, seeing as how the packs/prides who have about 30+ members all have someone on 24/7 to gang up on anything else looking to use that den or breathe the air of that den or LOOK at that den. Trying to compromise with the packs/prides in question doesn't work, either. No one is willing to talk, just tell you to GTFO. Dims would not only help to resolve the lag problems for the users but also this den issue, perhaps?
But I think half of the problem we have are trolls taking up the space. I saw someone running around with the name "BARACK OBAMA" yelling at people to "LISTEN TO ME I AM THE PRESIDENT" and "HEALTHCARE REFORM EVERYWHERE". Not much you can do about them. =.='
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Hello everyone. I just thought I'd throw this out there.
They didn't take anything away, they just haven't implemented it yet.
This is a complete redo, he didn't just change the graphics around and call it a day. No, he built it again from the ground up. (Maybe he borrowed some code from the old game, but that's about it :P)
I'm a little leery about dims though, as they seemed to make IT a wasteland, and made it really difficult to just have a random RP.
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Kov wants the game to be realistic.
I'm kidding.
But seriously, solution = custom maps. Don't have the time or patience to make one? Get some one else to, I'm sure there are plenty of people willing to do requests. There's also going to be a download section where everyone can upload all their maps, presets, meshes etc. They'll be hundreds of maps to choose from that member's have made. It's really not that hard ;) Just use your common sense.
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Teal, Adding maps or downloading them WILL NOT stop the lag. The lag IS the problem here. If we do get dims back we don't need a whole bunch. 1 - 15 or something so we wont be completely isolated. So maps do not = a solution to this one. Especially since right now, there aren't many maps to begin with or download. We don't want complete isolation, we want an escape route from lag. And wey, I think we understand that the game is still new and all, but i asked this once before in a post months ago, and Rak said kov said there wouldn't be dims. Honestly do none of you care about the users with bad computers? Not everyone has the money to buy a 500 - 1000 dollar computer that has windows 7 and all that other crud on it!
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Jazz, I love you.
I am one of the people all in favor of Dimensions. They created a way to talk with friends, RP better, go figure things out in quiet solitude.
Maps are good, without different places to go everyone would be bored. But Dimensions are almost a critical need. I'm someone who doesn't have the computer to with-hold countless downloads of maps and meshes and textures nor do I want to spend my time surfing the furoms for good maps which my friends may not like and won't download either. ( Yaaay, let's go RP with ourselves!? Anyone!? No? Shame. =D )
Also, with Dimensions it was easier to find the people you were RPing with. I wouldn't be saying this normally, but Kov has also seemed to think that getting rid of people on the mini-map was a good idea too.
Now, before you get mad, let me ask you this: Without Dimensions, people on the mini-map AND only 5 maps in which roughly 8000 people are crammed into?? It's hard to find the people you're RPing or talking with. And please for the love of gosh don't tell me to add everyone in my group because quite frankly I may not like EVERYONE in my group. I simply like to RP.
Also, I'm not trying to sound evil or mean or even like a PMSing dog or something, but this is a really big issue for me..
Dims made my I.T. expierence a lot better- I don't want a lot, maybe 1 - 50 ( Enough to make it so people can go places /alone/ if they want. ) and I think a lot more people would be happier.
Staff, Kov, you made a game /for/ people, right? Why not listen to the opinions? If you don't even do that, then you didn't make it for anyone but you. And therefore shouldn't have given it to anyone but you and your friends. You wouldn't get so many rants and rages then.
I'm glad we have FH, don't get me wrong, I just think we need some more stuff- and soon.
~Spoonz
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Oh god, I love you so much. :/ I want dimensions. Taking them away really, really f*cked me over. I lag severely. Lag is the reason I STOPPED playing Impressive Title.
Would it really hurt Kovu to throw in four dimensions at least? I really, really doubt it. >>
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I'm okay with or without dimensions. I didn't see a logical reason to take them away. Although, I do lag a lot.. so they would probably help me out with avoiding lag. :c
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I'm for dimentions. not only would it solve lag, but am I the only one that is annoyed by the "____ has arrived"..."____has arrived"...etc. and all the commotion of seeing all the chats at once? I mean, people have the right to chat and roleplay, but with a few dims it would be less spam and less drowning out things in conversations. sure, making custom maps would help get rid of lag too, but people are lazy and not everyone is going to make a map and not everyone has the skill too, even with the new map maker.
~Usyrian
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Dude
There's 5 different chats - including GROUP chat
If your serious about role playing - you would take the time and effort to make your own MAPS or take a few second and make a GROUP.
For Feck Sake. It comes down to laziness.
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Sly, that won't reduce lag though. I am one of those users that has a super old computer, and I can't afford a new one. During IT, I never lagged at all cause of the different dimensions. And now in FH, I can barely get into a map without lagging. I think that dims should be added back.
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Exactly, even though Dims would make Rping easier I mainly want them back because of the lag.
Also, again I say: Some people don't have the computers or laptops to handle making their own maps or downloading countless numbers of maps, and groups are good and all but leads to a whole new subject of wanting an updated Mini-map ( one that shows where everyone is, not just friends ).
Some people also don't have the ability or knowledge to create a /good/ map that they or even others for that matter would want to go too.
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I've tested the 'lag theory' on my old Windows XP Home Edition 23 bit low end computer - and the only place which I would crash would be if I were to sit in Default with 9001 people loading in my screen at once. But If I went to The Flourite Plains [bigger map] and sat on an island with 5 or six of my friends 'loaded' on my screen for RP - my Frame Rate never dropped.
I think the issue is
1- Low end computer users are having there setting WAY to high for a NEW game ( Viewing Distance too high, Open GL vs Direct 3D , Water Reflection On which takes alot of 'energy' from the game)
2- Of course if you sit in default with 100's of people loading and leaving over and over again - there will be lag and constant pop ups of 'connected' and 'disconnecting' - Try going to another bigger map, less people loading on screen.
3- If you know your computer is a garbage can with wires - then why are you complaining that a brand new game won't work on it xD? ( not directed at anyone - just saying.. common sense!)
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either way, the game would be nice with even as little as 4 or 5 dims. it may not be needed. some people may not want it. but will it kill anyone too add a few dims in the next game update? seriously, for people with bad computers it'll give less lag. for people with good computers...well they're be completely unaffected.
I don't think anyone is asking for dims RIGHT NOW. no one will die if a few are added at some point.
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Exactly. We're not asking for it right now. We just want dims back maybe in the next update. Is that too much to ask? I think not.
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I have a windows 95 with 256MB of RAM and can't run Crysis with full settings! bawww
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I have a cheap laptop and FH works fine for me. The only time I notice lag is when is when I'm in the middle of a lrge group, or facing a large group. Once I turn away or leave the crowd it runs fine.
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And while your waiting for updates - Make Maps or attempt to read some Tutorials - LOL
hot dayum I love solutions.
PS - *+Karma weylin*
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I agree with Bazzar, if they add Dims it'll help the lag for people who lag, for the people who don't?? Then ignore them. C=
It's funny, how when people complain about something, others complain about them complaining.
^_~
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Teal, Adding maps or downloading them WILL NOT stop the lag. The lag IS the problem here. If we do get dims back we don't need a whole bunch. 1 - 15 or something so we wont be completely isolated. So maps do not = a solution to this one. Especially since right now, there aren't many maps to begin with or download. We don't want complete isolation, we want an escape route from lag. And wey, I think we understand that the game is still new and all, but i asked this once before in a post months ago, and Rak said kov said there wouldn't be dims. Honestly do none of you care about the users with bad computers? Not everyone has the money to buy a 500 - 1000 dollar computer that has windows 7 and all that other crud on it!
Maps can be a solution to lag. If there are lots of maps, then there'll be less people in each map, therefore, less lag.
Oh and frankly, no. I don't care about the users with bad computers. We're not going to change the game just because of a hand full of people with bad computers. Since when do any game companies do this? And Kov's doing this for free too! (this part is just my opinion)
I get lag all the time as well, in fact my game crashed several times yesterday.
If dimensions are implemented in the future, then fine, but right now find your own way to solve your own lag issue.
I don't have time to read all the other posts now but I will later.
EDIT: Just so you know, I'm not necessarily for or against dimensions. I'm just telling you how you can avoid lag, and why dimensions aren't necessarily needed.
Also, there may not be many maps to download NOW, but there WILL be. You just have to be patient and wait for them, just like you would have to wait for Kov to put dimensions in IF he decided to put them in.
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I would soooo be happy to see dims back. I have a fairly good laptop, just recently got it, up to date with updates, and doesn't have a whole bunch of crap on it, yet even I lag. Dimensions were part of the reason I played I.T. I don't like RPing that much, and when I didn't RP I felt that someone would judge -- so I'd go to a dimension with friends, who most likely wouldn't judge me. And all that spamming in the chat box in popular dims, that was terrible.. it made the lag worse, and the same is happening in FH. I know how to make maps, and I have the time to do so, but they don't always turn out great, and I want surprises.. like new maps that I didn't have any idea what to expect. I know this game took a bunch of effort to make, as Jazz said in her post, but I ask for dimensions back too.
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...where are the wings and items people at I wonder xD
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Lags aren't a problem for me...But yes, my computer is fairly new. But why not set a map that's not littered with people your home? That way you can easily go to it within a few clicks, and not get over run by that damn lag. But yeah, dimensions are very useful in all kinds of ways, and I see why people want it back.
This is a new game not even a month old, it's going to have improvements and new features someday, right? Give it time, dimensions, I think, will eventually be added. For now, I guess it's waiting time.
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@Teal, Alright, we get it, you're a global mod, you act all high and mighty because you could ban us if you wanted to. But you also realize that saying what you said was rude and very offensive. "Oh and frankly, no. I don't care about the users with bad computers. We're not going to change the game just because of a hand full of people with bad computers." Don't you think that was offensive? The game is supposed to be so everyone can be happy. And, Correction, Game companies DO listen to their players and change things so they can be happy and keep playing. Oh and one more thing, without the players, what is a game without players? It's nothing but something that sits there that you are paying for. There may be a small population, but the game is quite boring that way. And before you start making offensive comments like that, try using your brain to put yourself in our shoes, and think about how we feel instead of just being a rude self-centered moderator. Thanks.
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Alright guys, let's not turn this rant against anyone.
We have our own opinions, and our own solutions.
Jazz; you're taking it a little too far. Just because Teal has different ways for handling things doesn't mean you go full force on them.
Now, not exactly pointing to Teal, but just a let know, we all have our own ways of solving things.
I personally am in favor of the dimensions, and really, I figure they'll come back at one point. The game has been online for only 5 days now.
Thankfully, both computers I use for the game don't suffer with lag, however.
Really, what annoys me is the amount of people that come in and out.
Yes, you do have the option of blocking out people's posts, and I guess in my computer's state, I don't mind if there's thousands of people. But the reason I ask for dimensions is that it helps for those who do have lag aswell as be able to just sit and relax with friends every once in a while.
Another thing.
I ask either for dimensions, or something to block out messages of people entering and exiting.
When you are in a roleplay or something, so many people enter and exit the map that you don't even have time to read another's post, or even get to scroll back up or down because of how many posts there are.
As for custom maps, my opinion is that it'd be really sad to have to make an entire map just to talk or roleplay with your friends privately. But that's just my opinion.
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@Jazz
looooooooooooooooool
Oh please, if I wasn't a moderator I would have said the same thing! I didn't even help DEVELOP the game so I really don't have a say in it. It's just my opinion just like you have an opinion. It all depends on what kovu wants. Kovu doesn't want wings even though a lot of members do. He's not going to add wings. Kovu doesn't want items even though a lot of members do. He's not going to add items. Kovu doesn't want dimensions even though a lot of members do. He's not going to add dimensions. (but he could always change his mind, you never know).
And no, I don't act all high and mighty. I simply like a good debate. If I wasn't a moderator you wouldn't even mention this. If you actually PM'd me and tried to have a proper conversation with me then you'd find that I'm actually a very friendly person and I love making friends.
And don't think that I'm going to hold this against you either. It's your opinion and I can't change that. If you wanted to be friends with me then I'd be happy to.
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@Teal, Right. I apologize for what i said, but i just found that downright offensive. I'm not trying to make enemies here. -shrug- I am so not a shortfused person. Everyone has their own opinions here, but some people may just get offended by them. Keep that in mind please. x3
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@Teal: Did Kov really say that he didn't want dims? I know he said that about wings and items (Which I have no issue with the wings/items decision) but I've heard nothing about him saying no to Dimensions.
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Can't we all just sit back and let Kov do what-ever he does ^^'' ?
It's been less than a week since it's been released. Give the him and the helpers some time.
@ Jazz - What the hell did Teal do to deserve all that? She's just a mod for the forum
And just because the helpers/team doesn't add what ever the heck YOU want to add doesn't mean "they aren't lissening to the community" 99% of FH is from taking ideas from people. For Feck Sake - let there be a "NO" every once in awhile without freaking out into wall-text.
Jazz I thought you had more respect than that - is something wrong? o.O doesn't seem like you..
@Teal - You're doing a good job, don't let some PMSing ranters get to you.
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@Jazz, that's alright. I guess I should apologize too. Sometimes I get a little bit carried away xD
@Gem, I didn't get to respond to you before since you ninja'd me but I agree with you about the chat. It's a little frustrating that we have to see all of them at the same time. I think Kov is going to fix that eventually. I'm not sure if Kov actually did say there wouldn't be dims. I haven't seen it actually come from his own text but a lot of people who are in contact with him have said that.
@Sly, Thank you but you don't have to defend me Sly, though I do appreciate it :)
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@Sly I apologized so theres no reason to keep that going. I admit that was a little bit on the snappy side, i do have respect but once again, dealing with a short fused person here.
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@Teal, Ah, thanks. And sorry about being all ninja. xD I do that a lot.
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Hm, if I may? :)
put yourself in our shoes, and think about how we feel
Yes, dimensions would seem like a good way to get away from a crowd and be with just the people you want to be with. It'd be a quick and easy way for a normal user to pull away from a crowd that is causing a lot of lag.
However, the same can be said for maps (like Teal has pointed out several times). While it is a tiny bit more work to run to a portal and on a different map, it does do the trick (point proven today when moving from Fluorite Plains to Tempe of Dreams). Also, this way you still have the chance of meeting new people and possibly expanding the list of users you like to be with. With dimensions, it's less likely (when thinking of how the dimensions were on IT).
Also, no dimensions = easier for moderators to keep an eye on what's going on and to pick out / find possible problems. While dimensions on IT were an awesome thing for the normal users, they were a pain in the butt for mods and admins. Everything just spread out too wide and became out of control.
So yes.. While I do see the majority's point of view, I'm still against dimensions. :P
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@Kirsui - As some have said before, the only difference if we got dims back would be a totally smaller amount. I.T. had 1 - 100 which was... WAAAYYYYY too many. As for the maps thing, (tested today) i tried going on one of my characters that were in flouride, and it just so happens EVERY TIME i got on her, It would disconnect me from the server because of the massive lag, and then i'd get the bad token error. So i never got to really 'escape'. In the mod's perspective.. Is it really that hard to track someone down for making trouble? XD I wouldn't know since im not one.
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Well the person who reported them could always say which dimension they are in, but then they can just quickly jump dimensions and avoid the moderator :/
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As some have said before, the only difference if we got dims back would be a totally smaller amount. I.T. had 1 - 100 which was... WAAAYYYYY too many.
I took that on account when posting my thoughts before. :)
Anyway, I agree with what Teal said. It can be very troublesome from time to time, even if the amount of dimensions was limited.
But..! Anyway.. I'm not going to complain too much if Kov sometime decides to add dimensions. It's his game, after all. If he decides to add something I personally wouldn't be too fond of, I'll just try to live with it. (The mini-map is one example of such things. I wasn't too fond of it at first but I'm rather fine with it at the moment. *shrug*)
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@Kirsui - Gotta remember, the game itself is new :B So, who knows. We may get them in the next update or so. It isn't our game, we're just making suggestions.
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Oh, and... @Kirsui: You know, you can turn the minimap off... ;P Sorry if you already knew, just saying since you said that you weren't too fond of it.
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I use the map to keep track of friends, haha-
But on-topic;
I am reading this, and with an open mind, I can say I really don't want dims. They are portals, basically, no? So... why not just create a new portal? Or use your view distance thing to your advantage? x3
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I liked the dims we had in I.T. (Thought I despised at how many there were..x.x.)
One to at lest five will do, It isn't that many really, let alone much to ask for. It'd help thin out the English, Poland and Russians in a sense. Rather then all of us being crammed into one room. Let alone cut down on the lag, so those who are having trouble logging into the game, can actually get on without too much trouble.
So yes, I do say dims are a must, even if it's just a few :3.
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i must agree with a few ppl here. When i go on nowadays i always disconnect in a matter of seconds because of the huge amount of ppl online (and to think of it that my computer actually is a "super"(lol) laptop, which handles lags quite good).
I say lets have 2 dimensions. thats enough to spread ppl a bit, so there will be not that much lag, and in the same time its not that hard either for mods or admins.
and everyone is happy.
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hmm just got a weird idea..
How about instead of calling them "Dimensions" we call them "Universe" or "Modes"
After you're done logging in , and selecting a character a window pops up asking which Dim/Mode/Universe you wish to go into, each will have their own title so people know what the Dim's for.
Dim 1 - Role Playing
Dim 2 - Chat
Dim 3 - Strict Role Play
Dim 4 - P.v.P
Dim 5 - etc etc
This way you pick the Dim you wish to be in and follow the certain rules for that Dim. That way there will be only a limitated amount of Dimentions that certain Moderaters can watch and handle reports for. Plus maybe only 4 or less dims so you don't have to scramble thru 400 dim's trying to find a RP.
hm?
HMMM?
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hmm.. Slycan is saying something here...
well ppl are discussing pvp modes etc on another threads... this would solve their and this problem?
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I like Sly's idea <3
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I very much like Slycan's idea!
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Sly's idea = Win. That should help straighten things out a bit. :3
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Okay so my last post failed.
DIMESNSIONS!
We need them, I mean all the people connecting and disconnecting, and plus shortage of maps doesnt help. I and many others get lag, when there are wolves and lions running hectic in Bonfire island. Plus newbies and RP's are always shouting stuff. Which doesnt help lag issues.
Post/comment your thoughts?
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I couldn't agree more! You can't talk to anyone without messages being swamped and there's no privacy. Attempts to RP are thwarted by other people trying to ruin it or attempting to drive you away because that particular spot you are standing in is "their den" or whatever.
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Well yes, the lag is pretty bad sometimes... well it was first, but now ppl are more scattered around and not many are on on the same time.
Instead dims Kov implemented maps. So if you want to get rid of the lag, either make your own map and send them to your friends, or just go on places where not many are going around.
The "Territory issue" is well known, the mods are doing everything to stop it.
Isnt the party or group chat private? this way you can RP without interruption.
Plus there is a way now to turn off the "xyz arrived/left/dc etc" in the options screen, so this shouldnt bother you anymore.
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Sly is full of win <3
But after all we should just be patient and see what kov adds and what he doesnt add.
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I love that idea, Sly. That's something that could easily work for everyone.
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Quote from someone on the first page
So before you complain about not having items or prey, think about all this first. And then remember, FeralHeart is still IN PROGRESS. The version out right now is constantly being updated and upgraded. More maps will be added, as well as new features, and while items will probably never be added in, I'm sure there will be plenty of other things that you guys can fight over.
I'd understand if people would want dimensions because of the lag, it can be a pain to play at times without being able to move correctly. But all other reasons is infact just because people are being selfish and can't share with the rest...
And for the first post.. 8000 registered users, but I don't think there have even been over 500 players online at once yet.
I don't like slys idea cause it's also just a way to devide all the players into groups that do different things. Would be better to just have 5 random dims in that case.
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For people that cant make maps/cant install them,
DIMS Is a way easier to install into Feralheart, and would be better then being spread out,
I liked the dimensions in IT. And would love to see these in FH.
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If you download a map there's usually instructions with it to where to put all the files. Come on guys, it's really not that hard. I wish people would stop bringing this stupid dimension thing up. They aren't needed. You can turn off the 'x has arrived/x has disconnected' easily in the options menu (press esc).
There are large maps, there are different chat modes which you can turn off and on, there are custom maps. We don't need dimensions.
There were probably more than 10 maps in Impressive Title, and I never saw anyone in them because of the stupid dimensions. Everyone just hung out in Castle or Default if they were Dimension 0.
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I totally agree that dimensions are not needed. For me, it's nice to see everyone running about. And the maps are BIG. The cave is really big, and the flourite plains (or whatever it's called D: I can't remember if that's the right name ;_; ) is really big too. There's more than enough room for everyone to play nice without dimensions.
And I like to be able to just run around, and find people and make new friends lol :s
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THere should be dimensions, but a limited ammount. Like 10. That way if you're trying to find someone you dont have a million dimensions to search.
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@Teal: Not if the person reporting them doesnt tell them theyre being reported. If the person doesnt know theyre being reported, then they wont know to leave, and in return will get caught. (sorry this is from an old post)
And i like Sly's idea too! ^.^ but i think maybe it should be dim 1-10 or something like that, for RP. so if one pride/pack/clan is in the first, say 7 dims, then your pride can go to different ones to try and find a less crowded or empty map dim. But its just an idea...
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Agree with that we need dims....Always when i create a char and comes to bonfire island....BOOM...And my whole computer is like dead.....so it takes less 1HOUR to fix it....ughhhh....Totally agree!!!
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Yeah... Some of my friends don't really play that much because of the lag and crashes. At first I agreed with just making your own map and what not... but the island with the portal to the cape thingy if always clogged with people starting up roleplays or just sitting there, and I often have to stare at the ground just to get to the portal with out lagging super hard, and sometimes (only have witnessed this twice) giant gatherings of warrior cat roleplayers are in the cape trying to get to a clan map, which often kills me X_X.
Sly's idea rocks, nice, neat and in order. c:
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I do not feel like it's a stupid sugestion Teal, I rather think this should be placed in, I get really bad lag, Plus yeah I see your point in maps, But it will be easier just switching to-and-fro dimensions.
I feel they are needed, and they arnt so hard to place in-game. It's a simple way to reduce lag..
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If lag bothers you, I think the simple solution is just making your own map. ^-^
You don't have to wait for dimensions to be put in - just get to work on a map of your own design! :)
So.. no, I don't see dimensions as a requirement for FH.
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@Dinwolfie: It's very easy to get to a less populated area in Fluorite Plains you know x3
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ok i only got to page three before i got annoyed with people who wants dims. i never played I.T. but hey they knew about lag when playing lower the viewing distance, turn off water reflection and what ever else they put to lower graphics it cuts lag. don't be lazy download player made maps if you want to get away they are usually empty anyway. i know i have downloaded several and have never run into another player.... kinda sad actually. anyway just stop being all about you i think kov made map makeing easy it took awhile but there are plenty of guides to making maps and yes it is time consuming but if you want to be alone make a map.
no dims ever!!
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I Agree with the dims. because sometimes i can't even play it's so laggy and annoying!!
Also, i love making maps but sometimes it won't export or save then starts to not work or something and deletes it... But when i have a map, well... i don't know how to add the terrain, ocean rivers, etc. it frusterates me -_- (by the way i have NEVER play IT before!! but it sounds awesome!! :)
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I'm unsure about this dim thing.
The maps, its a little stupid that we can only go into them through cape of worlds, and can only leave them to cape of worlds or another custom map. Portals to default maps don't work!
When I go on FH, half of all people who are online are in bonfire island. Which always make me crash when I create a new chara. Next most people sit around in the start area in fluorite plains, which makes me crash everytime when I arrive there too.
There dims would be good, but I think 2 or 3 dims are enough.
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True!
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I'm all for dims. Making custom maps may help some, but dont you have to GET there first? I've crashed several times just trying to get to one of my own or a freinds map. And some of my freinds cant get on my maps because of something wrong with coding.I cant get on several of my freinds' maps for similar reasons. Because of an Ogre exemption/exception error or w/e. And I end up losing a charachter. Dims are ways to reduce lag and avoid people who are running around 'raping' everyone.
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This is so true!
Iv seen quite a few replies on this sayin 'Just make a map'
But what if you want to rp?
Its not easy sending maps with custom objects and that.
seriously.
Dims is all i ask for to.
All i ask for.
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Naturally for me, I support dims ALL the way. I always have, ever since I found out how to use them (seriously, I played IT for a while until I actually figured out what the dims were for and how to use them xD) I truly miss them to death. They became terribly handy.
Now, about the lag...I don't get much of it because I have a graphics card. Even if I do lag, it's nothing I can't tolerate, because it is really so slight. The lag wasn't the entire reason I used the dims before anyway, to be completely honest. And to take part in the somewhat bristling debate here...I don't exactly get what some of you mean by jumping through SEVERAL dims to find a RP. That's certainly not what I did, not at all. The last thing I wanted to do was intrude on other people's private roleplays and business. I suppose you could say my friends and I sort of stuck together in a tight group when roleplaying at the best of times, where we didn't really want to bother with people we didn't know that well. It wasn't that we were entirely rude to people we didn't know, far from it in fact. I did start thinking that maybe when more maps are added to the game, people might start fanning out a bit more. I mean, there were days on IT when I would go to a completely vacant map in dimension 0, and that was mainly because there were so many maps. However, this idea does not change my mind about wanting dims. They're one of the things I want more than anything else on here. I'm hopeful though, because it is so early in the game's exsistance so far, that dimensions will added (I'm just really hoping).
Also, some of you here say that dimensions take away the whole social part of the game and isolates you from the rest of the people. Well...not trying to sound rude or mean here but..that is somewhat the point. I think the people who want dimensions the most are the people who wish to rp in private peace, or hang with a group of friends without being disturbed (people like me), or just because of the whole lag problem, and of course, plain-out annoying people, after all. Dimensions aren't really for making new friends, but hanging out with the trustworthy friends you already made. If I wanted to make new friends, I could venture into the big crowd at Bonfire and hope for the best. Once again, I am not trying to be/sound rude, even if I might be failing royally. xD
About making maps to avoid other people that may bother you, or just to be with your friends...well..I do believe people don't really want to work that hard just to be with their friends. And I also agree that it's quite lazy of them (not anyone in particular of course). But there are really just some things you can't solve without dimensions on here, and though I know that may seem close-minded of me. But really..and especially the way people are on here now. I actually think IT would have done just fine without dimensions, if you were to give them to this game instead. (I loved them on IT though) It just seems like, compared to IT, FH needs them way more. The community seemed to have changed completely (at least in my eyes). I know I keep going on about that subject, and it seems like everything I talk about somehow drifts over to that, but I can't help it..I could go on for hours, so I'll just stop now. xD
Yes, I know all of what I just said will get a whole lot of negative attention, and I know I probably just got on quite a few people's nerves (not to mention hit lists O.o), so I'm bracing myself for it. That's just how I feel.
So, in short, I voted "Yes!" for dimensions. I suppose you already got that idea though.
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If lag bothers you, I think the simple solution is just making your own map. ^-^
You don't have to wait for dimensions to be put in - just get to work on a map of your own design! :)
So.. no, I don't see dimensions as a requirement for FH.
Not everyone is so 'gifted' to make their own maps.
I keep seeing this suggestion made, over and over again. Really, I do believe saying it once, is more then enough.
ok i only got to page three before i got annoyed with people who wants dims. i never played I.T. but hey they knew about lag when playing lower the viewing distance, turn off water reflection and what ever else they put to lower graphics it cuts lag. don't be lazy download player made maps if you want to get away they are usually empty anyway. i know i have downloaded several and have never run into another player.... kinda sad actually. anyway just stop being all about you i think kov made map makeing easy it took awhile but there are plenty of guides to making maps and yes it is time consuming but if you want to be alone make a map.
no dims ever!!
It's not about 'all about you' as you put it. What of the people that have old, really slow computers as it is? It ruins their chance to play the game, and have fun.
We want dims' to reduce lag, and hopefully have more people easily playing the game. Rather then seeing nemours threads' asking for help, as to why they can't get in. Or asking to do something about the lag, ect. Complaining about their computer freezing up, or crashing all together.
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dims wont solve everything.
btw if there is this thread... then what about the ppl with older graphics cards? whose chars are white all the time, and there is no color?
the solution for that: upgrade or buy a new graphics card.
so i guess the solution for this would be the same...
im not saying im thrilled by this solution... but this is what we got.
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dims wont solve everything.
btw if there is this thread... then what about the ppl with older graphics cards? whose chars are white all the time, and there is no color?
the solution for that: upgrade or buy a new graphics card.
so i guess the solution for this would be the same...
im not saying im thrilled by this solution... but this is what we got.
/Shrug.
They need to update their graphics card or buy a new one.
But that has nothing to do with this thread. Seeing we are talking about dim's, not graphics.
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lag has something to do with graphics cards as well.
my sister and me use the same internet, yet her g.card is older (much older) then mine. she is lagging like hell, while i can play without problems.
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lag has something to do with graphics cards as well.
my sister and me use the same internet, yet her g.card is older (much older) then mine. she is lagging like hell, while i can play without problems.
Again, off topic ^^.
This thread isn't for talking about lag, graphics, or graphic cards.
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wrong.
this thread is about the lag.. isnt it...
or why you want dims if not for that?
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wrong.
this thread is about the lag.. isnt it...
or why you want dims if not for that?
Lag perhaps. But it has nothing to do with graphics or graphic cards.
Lag simply caused by too many peeps crowding in one spot, thus making the map and or area lag.
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partly it has.
read my post.
anyway.
the true meaning of my statement above:
if the graphics card issue wasnt solved either (and its a much older issue-could be solved easily though...just change the graphics settings a bit, so we can go even lower)
then i guess this one wont be solved either, ergo the only thing we can do is make maps, and hide there from the crowd.
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Gargantor is speaking the truth - ALOT of people want dims in order to solve their lag issue BECAUSE there's alot of people in one area. I have a decent graphics card and I don't lag minor to non in bon-fire on a saturday, on the other hand people with older cards can't take looking at more than 5 people in the screen at once without crashing
Others however, want it to RP in a map privately.
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I'd have to say I'm on the edge about this...if you have dims, you won't meet as many people. Sure, people cause lag for some of us, but you can just go somewhere else... But it does have good effects...
I don't know.
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I don't go to bonfire and fluorite anymore anyways, because I already crash before even looking at anyone.
I have no idea why it is like that.
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Dims were great in IT. No arguing over caves in a map, if you want to RP privately all you have to do is transfer to a different dim with your friends. But it's Kovu's decision.
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(Sorry if this gets off topic,)
Not everybody has the money to buy a graphics card to resolve the lag issue. Some people struggle just to have dinner (Like myself)
Now, when they can't afford a graphics card, how do you expect them to even play once in the game? This game, so far seems as if it's screaming: "HAVE A NEW COMPUTER, GET TO PLAY. HAVE AN OLD CRAPPY COMPUTER, WELL THAT SUCKS FOR YOU." And that's just not fair. More people, than you know, have old computers that lag far worse than some of us (with good computers) can't even IMAGINE. Dims might be their only option to actually PLAY the game. I realize that if we ever get hackers in the game, that it'll be hard to find them, but 5 dimensions, no, 3 dimensions would not hurt! Have atleast one mod in each dimension, create shifts, whatever you want to do, but having 200-500 people in the starter map, with no dimensions, that's practically insane in my view.
Voting "yes" for dimensions.
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^^^
No, its not fair that people with old graphics cards cant play as well as others, but that is how new games work. Most people with old crappy computers cant play newer games out on the market. But you cant expect game designers to cater to your old computer, that would only hold them back.
As I see it, private maps function nearly the same as dims; a different area you can go to RP or chat with others. If bonfire has way too many people for your computer to handle, go to a private map that looks fun. You don't necessarily need to go to one that is strictly for RPing either, there are also nice chat private maps that Ive found.
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I so support this.
Man, I don't even have a program to make maps, so I need this.
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http://www.gimp.org/ (http://www.gimp.org/)
nice and simple
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I never really played Impressive Title, but I agree to Teal Skeletore.
Lay this topic off, too! I'm kinda angry at all of you, I don't care. I know there is to much lag, but what is Kovu supposed to do? Take dims back? I don't personly know what a DIM is! I'm only a child!!
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Sorry. I spoke to late. XD
I got pretty much upset with the older comments....sorry I got outta hand...
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Dimensions are places that are exactly like the ones you were in, except no one would be there unless they went there too. (I think they were like this in IT, if I remember correctly) If I were in Dimension 1 and you were in 2 and I switch to 2 you'd be there and so will I. I hope that wasn't too confusing.
Anyways, Dims would be great for people who lag like me. I'd say only 3 or 4 dims though, some of us can't do anything and have to deal with the lag. Definitely a yes with this one. ;D
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And we could all get together and make dimensions. Those of us who can make maps would be able to do it easily if enough of us participated! Let us not go unheard!
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Old thread is old. If you read through entire thread, you'll see why there are no dimensions.
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Agreed, id really like prey because i am sick of power-playing lions (that's another thing we need to fix) and dims yeah, that would be cool, i am sick of lag, but id have to be a bit of a gripe with items, because i am sick of having to download one item pack, then see something else cool, and then having to become a tantrum throwing 3 year-old brat, and also, yeah, i don't really want to go on gimp, try to make a map, And fail like a strait-F student! and also, being a neon oddedy is fun! and who doesn't like to roll like that? well, Ive never played I.T. but, it sounds awesome, Preach on brotha -brofist- ;)