Feral Heart
Game & Forum Discussion => Game Discussion => Game Suggestions & Ideas => Topic started by: Safa96 on February 07, 2011, 01:15:45 am
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I just played FeralHeart for the first time, and I noticed there was a lot, and I mean a lot, of....um........ inappropriate and offensive language. A lot of
s e x u a l references and words like "R a p e" and "F o u r s o m e" to be more specific. (Where's the spoiler button!!?) One person who uses dark green font (His/her name wouldn't show up) uses the word rape to other members.. A LOT.
There was a lot of negatiivty to, like arguing, fighting and flaming other players. And if it wasn't bad enough, a lot of people were swearing too.
Shouldn't there me mods and admins in the game to punish or ban people that do stuff like this? If everything on this forum is supposed to be G rated, shouldn't the game be too?
In case anyone wants to do something about this, I've seen this mostly happen in Flourite Plains.
I have to be honest, if this is what the majourity of FeralHeart players are doing, I am going to lose intrest in this game fast.
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I never thought this game was G rated... more like pg-13 and up though I may be incorrect. I expected all this in the first release of the game. I'm not quite sure what age group you may think FH is centered for, but to me at least it's for people 13 and up.
Now dealing with the rape and other immoral stuff you spoke of, it may be a troll, or someone just messing around and joking with their friends, one can never tell lol
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Well first off, you have to expect this. Life isnt G rated you know. Ive seen what you seen and it doesnt bother me. Your GONNA hear cussing in AND out of game so my best advice to you is get over it and ignore it. If it bothers you that much dont play. Those are just words and words shouldnt bother you that much if your mature about it. :/
Besides Mods cant be EVERYWHERE in the game to ban people just because they were saying a couple of 'bad words'. Flaming and torching I can understand why you want that to stop. But Cussing? Come on. Just ignore it. Its life.
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@Tyki-- No one, I mean NO ONE[Sorry for the Caps abuse] was Rping on the 'server' I was on. They all said it was not an Rp game, but a fuzzy... ___ game [Well, I'm a rule respecter and I am not going to push my luck.]. Cussing disturbs me but I'm not 5, I can deal with it, but no, not Nasty 'Rping'.
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since when did trolls come into this community?!
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Slycan-- Long ago, I'm guessing. D: I just want to have a fun Rp time. D:
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+karma for you Sly XD
I agree with the others. Just ignore it. A reporting system with in-game mods has not been implemented yet but Raz is planning on it.
When most people do talk about that stuff, they are usually just joking around with their friends and having a laugh (not that rape is funny, but many use the term light heartedly) in fact I'm guilty myself of doing this with my friends lawl.
But if there IS anyone, who is purposfully harrassing another member or actually doing very descriptive and innapropriate RPs in public, then simply just block them. Until there is an ingame moderating system not much can be done about it. If it's really bad then you can always take a screenshot of the chat and note the member's username, PM a member of the forum staff and it will be delt with.
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Cussing is a sign of immaturity.
I always sigh and roll my eyes when i see ppl going at it. They think its cool to say this and that and in the end it appears they dont even know what the meaning of these words are.
I must agree...
a moderating system has to be added.
Why?
the world is bad enough.. lets teach those little kids how to behave. RAWR
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I agree with my friend above me. Like come on! They should know many people under 13 have snuck on, heck I have met at least 20, 11/12 year olds. But doing the 'nasty' thingsd on there is just stupid. I fthey want to do the 'nastys' then they should go get their own map. I just suggest blocking loads of people, trust me it works.
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Uh if you want my opinion guys, why bother, really ... >.< You do know this kind of people exist. They always existed. They will always exist. You can do nothing to stop them, they shall just keep on doing what they're doing. All you can do is ignore them, it's indeed not funny. But some people do find it funny. It's not on your business to stop them. Do what you consider good by yourself, and leave others act the way they wish, and simply ignore them if you disgaree with their .. 'way' ... (:
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This
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(love the DP of Safa, great comic!)
Anyway, I suppose you cant really stop people from coming on. Everyone has a different personality I suppose. The mods could be on the lookout for really offensive language or verbal abuse, but theres not really a lot that could be done unless they went on a banning parade O: And the block feature is always there to use if you've had enough.
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Just adding my two cents into this issue.
Even with intense moderation, many people would still slip under the radar. Considering there are so many users logging in to this game, we'll never be able to get it one hundred percent clean and there will always be trolls and people whom will slip up every so often with the occasional swear.
I don't like the people who throw around the f bomb every other sentence, but I'd hate FH to become such an uptight community where you have to watch very closely about what you say.
I'm guilty for letting out a swear every so often in my sentences, but I don't do any harm. Let's say... I accidentally cussed. It's no big deal. Because I'm not doing it to offend, and there's a block feature right there for anyone that I unintentionally do offend.
Now, harassing and using said words just to offend... That's the issue, and there's always a block feature for that.
I'd just hate for the report feature to be abused, where children are spamming the feature with people who use a word they don't like, and people flaunting the butt swing in an inappropriate way just to victimize another user would be let alone because said children find it amusing.
Just sayin'.
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And thats why they crafted the block button.
Anyways, your going to find immature people around the world as for this game, they are lurking around everywhere, just gotta know that for a fact. As I said, block button is free to use, you dun get eaten for using a block button, trust me. o3o;
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I personally think there should be a slight filtering then, if not every swear word can be filtered, but some of them. Like the f word or the most known 4letter words.
every sane developer wants to hold their game clean, and they do not want to see everyone cursing all they want.
yes, we all know there are immature ppl everywhere... but if we do not take steps, the problem can be really bad. Like... everyone blocks everyone... they cant RP together... there go the players.
I have been in a few games where you had a free chat, and no, they didnt filter it.. and yes, once they had enough and filtered the chat.
Its in the rules as well...
"3. Any sexually, threatening, hurtful, harmful, abusive, hateful, and ethnically offensive language is prohibited."
If they cant keep ppl to the rules.. then dont make rules....
simple as that.
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Its Only " sexually, threatening, hurtful, harmful, abusive, hateful, and ethnically offensive " if you make it out to be :/
I mean think about it - that means if you say anything you can be banned for it if reported..
*Eats and licks the bone*
*Smells at the thick bush*
* Licks self *
" I'm a big lipped black coon!"
And what - are we going to ban people from having opinions like
"Wolves Suck" and " This game fails" -because that's hurtful to some people.
..And lets not forget -Removed by moderator- are terms for animals - and yes, in serious roleplays people use these words without worry of a derpy filter ruining/deleting their every sentence.
This isn't WolfQuest were they treat everyone like 10 year olds that need protection from 'teh intnets' - This place isn't for crying when someone says your Art looks like crap and you want a Mod to hold your hand and "get rid of the bag ppls please >:" - This game is like every other MMO where they expect you to use common sense and just click the Block Button.
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@Slycan's post because my quote button doesn't work.
This.
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If this ends up to be like WQ, or even if it did end up having a word filter I would, Idk, just laugh, curse, and do what WQ haters do. .3.;
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As far as the cussing, you have to keep in mind that for some of the people who DO rp on the server, that it may be apart of their character's personality.
I know I have a character who swears often and is quite crude and mean to others - in his history, my character has a legit reason as to why he's like that - he's got brain trauma from being hit by a car. I've tried to tone him down a little for FH as to not piss off too many 'sugarplum daisy pickers', who simply *GASP* at the slightest 'naughty' word, but I'm not about to wipe cussing clean off of him to make the game sugar-coated for them. >:\
Another good thing to keep in mind is that what seems like a swear to you, may not be to other people.
On a more crass note: everything that Slycan said above.
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Hmm. Maybe I've been hanging around the offical warriors forum to much. The admins there are extremely paranoid about inappropriate language. Any word that means something negative is blocked, and I mean anything. Even the words "Stupid" and "Dumb" are censored.
I don't play Wolfquest much anymore, (Because my computer goes crazy and crashes whenever I start it) and I never played much Wolfquest mulitplayer in the first place, but their filter is just too anal. I couldn't even tell people my wolf's name because it was a made up word, and the filter blocked it. I had to use a riddle to finally get passed the filter. What was my wolf's name? Khaz. There is absolutley no reason to censor that!
I defintley don't want that happening to another online community, espically with a game.
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I've noticed it's very common in game. But I really don't pay attention to it since I know it's borderline impossible for it to be tracked by mods any way. And even if one mod would appear I wouldn't be surprised if the ones who caused the problem just talked back and others followed him and ganged up on the mod. Immaturity seems more common then maturity on the internet these days.
I slip up as well, but I know not to do so in front of a large crowd or younger audiences, I'd rather not influence 11-12 year olds with cussing every other word. I think when a kid swears that age they just look stupid, that's just my opinion though. It's kinda like that reaction when you see this 8 year old in a store swearing 100 times to their friends and you just want to say "STFU you don't sound cool"
WQ went to extreme lengths pretty much... they took out words that were not even inappropriate. The filtering drove me INSANE so I left after like a week or so.
Trolling? Like furry trolling? I saw this only twice, it was last night. Some guy just gathered his troll buddies and came on just spewing words like furfags and what not. No one payed attention to them, I was surprised random people were not like "OMG NU UH U R D:<!111!!!1" I didn't pay attention to it though. Just kinda watched. Not many know the "don't feed the trolls" rule.
I DID see the actual offensive behavior, like threatening users personally. But again. Didn't care myself, though the person being trolled was probably pretty disturbed considering it was about a good 30 min argument that grew into a good amount of people fighting.
I do think some filtering should MAYBE be added... though a report feature would be easier. As long as it's not the kind of report button where people can just gather friends to report this person for a certain amount of times and they get banned and didn't actually do anything.
You can't avoid it but you can make it less common if done the right way.
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Lol Safa, actually the WQ filter has the other annoying way of blocking words -- it doesn't actually block words, it just allows certain words to be said. And that's the more annoying thing, since you can't talk about a lot of things there. :B
Lolol, Sly has a very special way of saying things the way they are. >D Agreed. >P
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okay seems like you dont understand WQ at all, then why talk about it?
first off... WQ DID have a completely free chat back then. (but you have to keep in mind its an educational game made for children)
But ppl like YOU cussed, abused the chat box to an extent they had to keep removing words.
@Safa96: names arent allowed in the chat lexicon for a good reason. At the chat box you could only see the ppls wolf name, the username was hidden, so many abuse reports were trashed because you could only report the wolf name. So to aid the reporting system, the wolfnames had been removed. (whose fault? abusers)
@Sarine: words were removed yet again for a good reason. ppl abuse, swear, and be inappropriate with common words, which they use as work.arounds.(whose fault? abusers) Sadly WQ doesnt have the funding to make a better chat. Plus its not meant to chat about your every day life... its an educational game about wolves.
So if you can make a better chat system with the amount of money they have... then go ahead and show me what you can make.
Plus... how come "big guys and girls" to the idea to MATE and curse in an educational game made for 10-12 years olds...
If they would stop, there would be no problem.
And i still dont understand why there are WQ haters... noone is interested how you hate this and that. keep it to yourself.
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@Warriorscat123
Um excuse me, I dont know what server you were on but I was on the Feral Heart server and I saw QUITE a bit of people role playing. Maybe not where you were but I know for a fact theres plenty of rp'ing.
And I dont know who 'they' are but Feral Heart is NOT a furry game. Its an MMO made simply for people who love to role play and appreciate Feline and Canine based games.
Btw, My post had nothing to do with role playing so I have no idea what your getting at.
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Safa, if it bothers you that much, just hit the magical block button. And that "sexual" thing you mentioned doesn't bother a lot of people. And for the cussing, it happens. Just ignore it. Life is not G Rated. I always thought of this game PG-13 and up.
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On wolfquest, the game fails. FH was mad by mainly collage and teenage kids I think, and so far, their MP works,(unlike wolfquest, because you eaither freeze or you need some high quality computer), they have patches out faster than WQ can even make a new episode, they hire 14-15 year old kids to manage OTHER kids (not smart. I'm not going to respect someone younger than me), they claim to be non biest(spell fail pleaze LOL) yet it's a breeding hub for wolfaboos, they cant even control their own MP.
That game, because they have money, should have better models, animations, MP servers, and control over their so called 'edicatinal' (another spell fail) game and MP. They fail at their goal to teach people the truth about wolves, because all I've seen (yes I used to be a member, I was known as Asheek) are wolfaboos bawing about every tiny bad thing that happens to wolves.
end of rant~
NOW ABOUT FH
I curse, if you have ever visited sly's stream I curse... alot LOL. There just words and if you don't like them, IGNORE IT. While I hate trolling for no reason at all and this whole 'LETZ LEIK GO MAKE SOMEZ LIONPORNZ LULZ' (yes, I saw that, made me lol so hard) is funny but annoying after a while.
This is not a game for 10-12 year olds whom think anything that could remotely be taken as sexual is banning grounds. People here have characters whom curse and do other stuff that would make any young kid gape at the screen in shock, and they don't need to be on here and we don't need to make rules to protect a bunch of over sensitive children.
However, if you know you plan on 'mating' or anything in that sort, go to a secluded area or you'r pwn map with your friends (turn the chat to party or group or whisper for the sake of others LOL). Roleplaying isint all sparkles and rain bows ya' know (<----SARCASM PEOPLE)
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osnap.
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To sum it all up: We don't want this place to turn into something like IMVU, but we allow freedom which WolfQuest doesn't.
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Exactly.~
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This shows where the world is going... right down...down...down...down...
no respect guys.... someone has to teach you... *grabs whip*
anyway...
Wudiin, you better dont even talk... we all know why.
Yes, they are teens(not kids), who they assign on the forums.. but teens with great knowledge, respect and a matured mind. (unlike the 70% of the ppl here). and this is what neither of you can achieve or could...
Multiplayer isnt a fail at all, its just a thight budget they have.. if you soooo want for them to fix these things.. well you can always donate. (plus the game is more concentrating on SP than MP).. well seems like you have to refresh your knowledge...
Plus, WQ is actually about wolves (omg big news!!!) so of course the thing they discuss is wolves... -.- Dunno where you played all that time...
"That game, because they have money, should have better models, animations, MP servers, and control over their so called 'educational' game and MP" (plz learn spelling ty) lol seems like youre not even reading.. or i dunno where you played (yep saying again).... WQ has a THIGHT budget... not much funding... so no.. they cant make an UBERAWESOME game.. maybe they can later on...
yet again saying.. if you dont like the game (why did you play with it anyway?? did they hold a gun to your head 0.o?) then dont play it... and so you wont have a "negative" experience, and you dont have to go on a random forum, and rant about it somewhere behind their backs... if you are sooo tough... go on the forum there and tell them your opinion. -.-
well i dunno how actually this game got into the conversation.. all we ask for is a SLIGHT filtering... wth ppl think we want to take away all the words. We all friggin much know its an RP game and restriction of the words are negative here.... but really well known curse words have to be kept out. Every game i have played so far has these well known curse words filtered. after all they want to teach you little kids whats not allowed... and yes, if you go out on the street ppl will look at you weird and disgusted if you start yelling curse words... a sane person knows these are not allowed so it should be a natural thing these words to be filtered.
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Garganator, honestly. Nobody really cares for WolfQuest here at the moment, defending it like some sort of crazed fangirl is just making you look really, really silly. If you want to churn out the paragraphs you are, at least relate it to the matter at hand. Make a thread about it if it bothers you so much. Don't derail. :3
kthnx.
And I'm back for more about all of this fuss. I totally didn't think about the point Kerrigan made earlier. Some people's characters are really bitter and whatnot, and cursing is part of their personality. I don't think 'You look like a really stupid person' has the same effect as what their character would like to achieve. /:
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ahem.. im not a girl...
secondly... i didnt bring up WQ... someone else did in a negative fashion, and i just defended the game... -.-
I dunno but i guess you would do the same if i went on a forum and started cursing your fav game...
anyway...
well basically i want a slight filtering (like many ppl too), because if you want it or not... there are children who just want to run around the maps, make friends and RP in a childish fashion... and here comes a "tough" character and starts to curse...
My little sister wanted to try out the game. 5 mins later she comes to me with a weird expression, and tells me what appened... i go there and see the chat (which was stuffed with the f word/curses of any kind). so i quickly log out. ( she was just RPing with a newfound friend, then comes this character, and messes it up, then starts talking "tough" -.-)
And my little sister is just 10.
yes, you can block, but for this you have to experience this. and get to know who you can trust.
(plus i personally dont like to RP with ppl who curse all the time.)
So dont forget the children pls... i know you think this game is mainly for 13+... but the games features suit the 13- children as well.
And to protect them, we need to filter out the most well-known curse words. ( we all know there will be work-arounds.. but at least the actual words will be blocked.... kind of gives an illusion that there is control... even if there isnt actually)
I know its NOT an educational/only childrens game but letting ppl to curse openly without at least telling them to stop... is just absurd...
This is where the world goes....
mods look out.. youre loosing your authority... oh wait.. what authority?
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Nobody really cares for WolfQuest here at the moment
This needs to be gold plated.
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Riiight, you kind of driven this a little bit far alright? >.<
Some people do, ok? It's their right, and you gotta respect it. If you want others to respect yours too. This is going nowhere. It kind of started like a joke, but now it's gotten serious. WQ is WQ, and FH is FH, whatever you like better, congratulations. Leave these out of the thing, and discuss about the filters, namely the actual point of the thread. Thanks. ._.
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Agree Sarine.
I love WQ and FH <3 :3
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LETS COMPARE FREE MADE GAME VS GAME WITH MONEY TO BLOW (dun care how little)
FH: WAS MADE WITH NO BUDGET AND BY A BUNCH OF COLLAGE/TEEN PEOPLES, mostly good servers (save for that nasty hiccup), while lag is bad in crowded places at least one can connect to the server, LESS GLITCHES, FREEDOM, good graphics, large maps, custimization(spell fail please lol.) to the extream.
WQ: Has a team and a budget, good graphics, bad servers that cut you out a lot, lag, takes forever to get something done, very limited actions, animations are not all that smooth, limit to how many people can play together in MP, not may things to choose from when it comes to make a character, crap load of glitches when the second episode was released after about two years of being planed and made, very suckish mate and pup AI.
The list could go on but I shall stop there. I was a member for a long time before I saw the light :)
Any way, I'm agreeing with most of those here. Unless a person is in your face talking crap, trying to harass you and your friends and whatever ignore the cursing and the light hearted jokes people are making with their friends. Curse words are just words some people are offended by, but they are not going to murder you in your sleep so unless you cant move away, ignore it, block them or whatever go to your own map 9not that hard to make people!) and hide out there and leave the roleplayers alone to have their fun.
Once again I state In my honest opnion(another spell fail I see!) Fh is not some game a kid should play should they have qualms with cursing, lots of bloody roleplays, some mating and whatnot. And like some AMAZING person stated: This is FH not WQ. So don't bring their rules and poloicies here because they ain't wanted.
OH HAI SLY.
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Start filtering a few words that someone doesn't like, and it's opening the floodgates to have all sorts of other words filtered out just because someone doesn't like them - that's the main point here, hun. It's called the "Fahrenheit 451 Censorship Effect." And as you can see, from most of the people who responded in this thread, people here don't want a word filter. Most of the players on here are 13+. They're mature enough to filter out the words for themselves - is it honestly that hard to do it yourself? -.-'
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This topic is about filtering words and the behaviour of some members in-game. Please keep it that way. There's already plenty of WQ vs FH discussion threads. This isn't one so just drop it ok?
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The FH vs WQ is kinda annoying >.<
People like what they like....
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/thinks this has already been said (not reading every post)
Why not just make an option to filter words out? like the people that actually use bad words, people that dont like it can turn on the filter and ignore it while the others that dont mind it listen eh?
Like i rarely cuss ofc, but mayb i want to make a toon with a horrible background where he cusses quite a bit etc? havin a ^$%^!#%$ as the words OR just blankness would be stupid... so aye make a filter for ppl and wen they log on, it'll be turned on till turned off ^-^
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Tasha's idea makes me happy, I've seen that tactic used on other sides.
An optional filter that can be toggled on and off by the user. A happy medium between people who want a filter and those who don't. =w=
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I think that's a great idea.
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O3O that would be epic.
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Tasha thats a great idea. I personally don't mind people swearing/cursing as I'm mature enough not to get angry or offended by it. If they were abusing someone, then screen it and send it to an admin or mod. This game was obviously not meant for 10-11 year olds otherwise words would have already been blocked.
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I think Gargantor needs to friggen step off his soapbox. You like WQ and WE all dont. (Most of us I assume.)
Mostly I dont like you forcing your opinion down my friends or ANYONE here's throat. Since you like WQ's uber uneeded over filtering, go play THAT and not FH. And one more thing, dont get on someones butt about spelling. Because last time I check the word "Tight" was not spelled "THIGHT". :/
BACK ON TOPIC.
I think it would be a great idea to have a filter IF you want it. A filter button as Im sure someone has already mentioned. But My say here is if you dont like cursing because it just BOTHERS you SO much, than ignore it. Go to another map! Most people here dont care about swearing because, again, we're mature here. Little 10 year olds shouldnt be on the game anyway. Besides, theres no point in sheltering kids forever. THERE GONNA HEAR IT. Its everywhere.
THE WORLD IS NOT G-RATED PEOPLE. Get over it.
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I lol'd at Sly's post. -karma'd-
Anyway, I like Tasha's idea for the swearing issue. Although swearing doesn't bother me personally, that would help.
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I don't mind it either, at all. But I think Tasha's idea is great, and it be great for them to follow up on something like that. I personally do not allow myself to swear at all in front of the younger people. I rather not influence that kind of talk to them, since I think more then 60-70% here is between the age of 10-14. I rarely meet people older then that it seems, the occasional 17+ I rarely see.
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I'm not very concerned about all the cussing, and I'm only fourteen. Besides, nobody has ever officially announced the game as "G" rated. On ImpressiveTitle you had people like this all the time; and even I would sneak 'bad' words into my speach on there every so often, but you have to deal with life. Cuss words really shouldn't bother you that much... you hear them every day, I'm sure. Now, the whole /sexual/ thing; people flaunt words like 'rape' around all the time, especially in RPs like FeralHeart. It's usually nothing serious, just playing with people. But trolls, I can understand; the stupid buggers.. >.>"
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Perhaps an option can be put in place that allows people to turn a word censor on or off for their account? Allowing them to see little "*" marks where others put a curse word. It could block the basic curse words and allows those who don't mind them to leave them unblocked. Perhaps even make the list customizable, so people can block other words that they don't like?
Just an idea ^^
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I think Gargantor needs to friggen step off his soapbox. You like WQ and WE all dont. (Most of us I assume.)
Mostly I dont like you forcing your opinion down my friends or ANYONE here's throat. Since you like WQ's uber uneeded over filtering, go play THAT and not FH. And one more thing, dont get on someones butt about spelling. Because last time I check the word "Tight" was not spelled "THIGHT". :/
BACK ON TOPIC.
I think it would be a great idea to have a filter IF you want it. A filter button as Im sure someone has already mentioned. But My say here is if you dont like cursing because it just BOTHERS you SO much, than ignore it. Go to another map! Most people here dont care about swearing because, again, we're mature here. Little 10 year olds shouldnt be on the game anyway. Besides, theres no point in sheltering kids forever. THERE GONNA HEAR IT. Its everywhere.
THE WORLD IS NOT G-RATED PEOPLE. Get over it.
i just saw this... sorry i didnt read all of it, i got to the first sentence only...
dude youre slow or something... we are over this problem, we arent even talking about it.. and as the mod said... no WQ stuff, ty.
Plus you dont even know me, so be polite enough and dont talk if you are too immature to understand ppl. Im just defending my little sister(shes 10 and she had experienced this issue), along with all the 13- children. (if you cant understand that either, then you have a problem, i would suggest a psychiatrist)
And i like the idea of Tasha. That would be good for 13+ and 13- ppl as well. Everyone can do what they think is best for them. either they want a filter or not.
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Im just defending my little sister(shes 10 and she had experienced this issue)
Then maybe she should just stay on WolfQuest. A game like FeralHeart where there is just mostly 13+ year olds isn't a place for her.
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And YOU all don't, where does the WE refer to, OH AWESHOM PERSON excuse me? -.-'
Again yeah, I'm more of FH I admit it, but hey, WQ has played a big role in my life, I made some of my best friends there. Go eat your tongue, you think you're so freakin' awesome. I support Gargantor here, because I know him better than you do and he knows what he's talking about ... appearently unlike you.
Get over yourselves people, can this idiot discussion STOP? Why do you bring it up, so you DO want a nice kick in the butt don't ya? See I can talk dirty too, if that's what you want. I think everyone had enough of this, continue the pointless discussion into PMs. -.-
I think a filter for those who actually want it is the best option. Just having the option to activate and de-activate it would fix the problem.
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Then maybe she should just stay on WolfQuest. A game like FeralHeart where there is just mostly 13+ year olds isn't a place for her.
i dont think this game was only developed for 13+. its a game for everyone, as i see it. If it really was for 13+ then the game wouldnt look like this. Little children look at this game and see the many possibilities what they could do. They can come anytime too if they wish.
My sister begged to play after she saw me playing it... Even though i did know exactly what ppl there are sometimes, i had still faith that there will be no real problems (she doesnt know much english luckily), but i was wrong. After all, even if she knows some basic words and she can write sentences with a bit of flaw(well... much flaw), she can still understand the basic swear words. which is the real problem.
I dont say she came to me crying, but i could see she felt offended(she is quite mature for her age).
And thanks Sarine for your support.
But we have to get used to such ppl i guess. I agree everyone has their own opinion, but its no place still to bash a game.
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There is no age restrictions for FH, but that doesn't mean that it's appropriate for 10 year olds. It's an unfiltered chat with a lot of foul mouthed teenagers and the like. I'm pretty sure your parents wouldn't want your 10 year old sister to be playing a game like that.
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If he's trying to defend his younger siblings, i understand that, but like i said a filter could be used and about that buttswing thing i see in alot of areas in this forum... IGNORE IT geez dont make a big deal about it, I personally think its cute and funny, and at points CAN be used during Rp / boring / tryin to have fun points, nothing wrong with it at all. If someone is bothering ya with it, block them / run to a diff spot
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Ok..honestly... I think this thread is turning into a flame war. It's OK for someone to think that some of the people's behavior on FH is a little...unnecessary. There is no reason to start attacking them and WQ (where the heck did that come from anyway?). Maybe instead of flaming each other we should be trying to come up with an option that would please everyone? This isn't a hard issue to solve. Safa96 has some perfectly legit issues with some people's behavior and they were only trying to bring the issue into light.
Please stop attacking each other....
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Note:
There's a law stating somewhere that only persons 13+ years of age are even allowed to be on most social sites.
I'm even %100 sure the SMF Forum TOS this forum is hosted on states 13 Years and up , but I'll double check to make sure.
We HAD this issue before on Stacey's Impressive Title forum in which case there were nearly 25% of the accounts in that forum being banned for being under age. As for the game itself, I don't know but I'm hoping its the same way.
Second life almost got shut down because of this too, SL ended up being 16 and up.
And Furcadia has a map just for adult to bypass restrictions for the game, called FurN
I don't judge people by their age but I think 12 years old and under is just too young to be on the internet. It's no ones job to protect the young ones but the parents, and thats why by the time they are 13 they can legally make their own decisions on what to view, download and type on the internet.
So don't blame the game's or websites unless you want to end up showing your I.D. and Drivers license just to be able to log in.
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Slycan, your correct about the 13 age restriction on proboards. -- Also noticed this restrictions on other sites as well, so it isn't only Proboards.
This is what I posted on a thread, similar to this. So I'll suggest it again.
I have to agree with the buttswing thing. I've seen too many in Bone fire (mostly.) standing on top of one another, or one laying down belly face up and the other on top doing this. I find it very inappropriate for our younger players, it bugs me even. :/.
As for the cussing bit, not that I mind it. Maybe a simple profanity filter that we can choose rather to trun off or not?
As for dirt jokes, peeps really need to keep that to them selves, through pms, or even in groups. I don't care, as long as I'm not seeing it.
Also, perhaps, making the report button more well known? I didn't notice it until I double clicked on someone (which is hard.) I've just found out, you could double click their name as well, in the chat box and report them ect. This future is not well know, and I suggest it becomes more known to the public.
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That is true, a lot of sites I've been on clearly state a law where the user HAS to be 13+ years of age, or they get their account banned.
Here is a example I pulled from WP;
You must be 13 years or older
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The Children's Online Privacy Protection Act ("COPPA") specifically protects the privacy of children under the age of 13 by requesting parental consent for the collection or use of any personal information of the users. The Act took effect in April 2000. The Act was passed in response to a growing awareness of Internet marketing techniques that targeted children and collected their personal information from websites without any parental notification. The Act applies to commercial websites and online services that are directed at children. The main requirements of the Act that a website operator must comply with include:
Incorporation of a detailed privacy policy that describes the information collected from its users.
Acquisition of a verifiable parental consent prior to collection of personal information from a child under the age of 13.
Disclosure to parents of any information collected on their children by the website.
A Right to revoke consent and have information deleted.
Limited collection of personal information when a child participates in online games and contests.
A general requirement to protect the confidentiality, security, and integrity of any personal information that is collected online from children.
Consequences:
If it is discovered that you are under the age of 13, you will be banned because of the COPPA Act of 1997. No exceptions.
But that's WP.. not FH. So..
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It's true that we haven't enforced the 13+ rule yet, but it will probably happen eventually, because it happens to every website I've been a member of.
Moonshade - This isn't really a flame war, just a debate. Unfortunately some people are taking it a bit immaturely.
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Ah, didn't know that myself. Even so, so many people get through this rule as is.
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Our Deviant Art Group ended up banning atleast 20 people now because even the TOS on Deviant art enforces the 13+ law.
It's sad but honestly - too young for MMO's which has majority of 16 -thru 21 year olds doing what teenagers and young adults do..
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Simple.
block them.
The feature exists for a reason. so use it instead of crying over it. It's the internet, People cuss. No, they're not immature. No, They're usually not bad people.
Pointless thread is pointless.
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It doesnt bother me at all since I dont even bother talking much. Thats only because my computer is slow.
Yet I still read what people say, cussing and stuff shouldnt be bothering people cause you can just stay out of it and do your own business. If it still bothers you, meaning your kinda dumb, just hide that chat
box -_- its not really a big deal from my point of view.
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I'm not very fond of the 13+ rule (for FH, at least...)....I love hanging out with my lil sis on FH, and she's under 13...^~^;
eh... :c
would it just settle things with what peeps suggested a long time ago? to have an optional filter? |D I also dislike profanity, and it's not that I can't filter those sad words myself or that I doubt people will curse at me or whatever...I'm not immature, I just hate seeing those words ._.
not to mention I just wanna protect my own lil sis just as Gargantor wants to... .__.;;
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Wow dude. Just wow. 1.Im definetly not slow. Your just making this a flame war now. You posting your opinion basically gives me the right to reference it in my own opinion. Theres no rule against that.
2.Just as your standing for your sister Im standing for my friend. Dont turn this into a flame war between us.
3. My opinion is STILL the same. Worlds not G-Rated. And as Teal said, FH isnt the game for you or your sister if your gonna gasp at every bad word. lol. Your getting serious while Im keeping this casual. I never threw a name such as "slow" at you did I? Never said you needed to see someone either. THAT was uncalled for so I'll just disregard that.
Seriously, dont turn this discussion sour just because I dont agree with you. My opinion is unchanged, thank YOU. :)
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OK guys. I think I better lock this thread now. I think this topic is quite thoroughly discussed now and it doesn't look like anyone has something else interesting to add. I can also see a bit of an argument breaking out and that's not cool.
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Your "lil sisters" shouldn't be on the website period because its against TOS (the rules of the forum host)
So quite frankly what ever they see here is their fault for lying about their age to sign up in the first place.
and I'm pretty sure you have to state your age is 13+ in order to sign up.
You guys are going to end up causing more of a mess trying to gett little kids into a game full of horny teenagers and young adults that are going to spit, curse, spam, and hump each other no matter what.
Sure there's always mods system but they can only do so much before it becomes ridiculous and people report other just for simply saying " I'm Coming" or anything that can *sound* wrong.
Once again - no one on a video game MMORPG is going to hold your hand a protect you from "the internet"
Honestly if you can't handle a community like this( which is way watered down compared to most MMO's) then you really should be on the Internet playing multiplayer games with nearly 50k+ people walking around ,period.
Settings would be nice but it will only promote more youngsters to download the game when they should really be here in the first place because its against pretty much every single Law/TOS for most games/forums/websites.
Sorry if I seem alittle strict but I've seen so many video games and MMO's turn to crap because of of little prick 11 year olds saying they are 19 then go into a server, then they have the nerve to start crying saying " BAAAAAAH someone called me a noob ban them pls??"
Unless you want everyone to have to show their ID card's and Drivers license just to be able to login- I HIGHLY suggest that all of you with little sibbling( 12 age and under) to tell them to delete their accounts before the "Child Protection" Internet Police come here and start trying to shut down the game.
Please!
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Unimportant Issue Is Unimportant.
If people are easily offended by cussing and make a big deal about it because they can't let it slide, then this probably isnt the best place for you. Complaining about this sort of thing shows how mature people actually are. You should be able to just shrug it off and/or ignore it. If you cant do that then you're deliberately looking for confrontation. Block them. It is not hard.
If you go play a video game with blood and swearing and are offended by it, then just dont play that game. The game makers are not going to change just because one person doesn't like it.
Same thing applies here. You cant walk into a community that has existed for a while with these things as a natural occurence and expect change just because your little sibling isnt ready for that stuff yet.
You might want to play the game without it, but sometimes that's just tough.
It is what it is.
~Ven