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I've been looking at these other games, and I thought, "It'd be cool if we could do that in FH."
Like if we had a limited life span kinda similar to Minecraft. XD When we die, we just respawn. Less arguing over who won the fight. BUT of course there would be issues of people killing each someone else randomly and that could be a serious issue. BUT the solution could be, in order to initiate combat, the person has to accept a request. Like a friend request. XD
But that kind of programming could take ages.
Attacks could be bites, claws left and right, jumping onto each other, knocking an opponent over. All sorts of creative stuff.
But again. That kinda work to make it possible would take some dedication to the game. What do you think?
(sorry if I'm giving some one out there a very big head ache) XD
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That would be awesome, but sadly take a lot of time, and as you said dedication. I love your idea of having to accept a request to battle. Would take ages to program, but the outcome would be worth it. Haha, but we should always be happy about the Feral-Heart we have now, it is an amazing and fun game. :3 Mabey in the future ideas like this will become a reality.
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Yeah FH is still my favorite game. No matter what. XD
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It sounds like an awesome idea. 8D Something like that and hunting, etc, would make FH even funner than it is now. :3
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Im not much of a fighter, so it wouldn't be of much use to me, but I do think it would be a good idea.
Mostly, because it would put to end any power players or people who try to kill with one swipe. That type of playing always gets my jimmies rustled :I
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I'd really like that~ Though you're right about programming. Maybe there could be a group of dedicated FH players who learn to code and mesh that sort of thing? I'm procrastinating learning how to mesh stuff, but if I felt that I could do this sort of stuff for the FH community I'd knuckle down to it
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For starters, the game would have some serious lag issues. The server is already struggling as it is, and if attacking and health-bars were to be introduced, the game would possibly have to limit the amount of online players to a very few people to decrease lag for other players.
Unlike Impressive Title, FeralHeart has removed the whole concept of dropping items from prey because the game developers intended to make the game more friendly and encourage the players to roleplay, as stated on the home page on the FeralHeart website.
Also it would take at least a good number of months to program everything ingame, as you had said. Even though the whole concept of fighting and health-bars like many other games is very good, programming it into a game such as FeralHeart would be near-impossible.
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It sounds cool, but like most of the people above are saying, it would cause the game to be laggy. Plus, it's a RolePlaying game, not a deathmatch. Because chances are, most people would start using it to just fight other people, and forget about the rp.
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They have said that hunting will be implemented. But you wouldn't be able to code for it, as only Kovu can do that. The only reason why the server is struggling is because everyone is either on bonfire or Flourite, if there were more maps but smaller replacing Flourite, they'd be a lot less lag. On IT there wasn't any lag. (well apart from default...)
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It sounds cool, but like most of the people above are saying, it would cause the game to be laggy. Plus, it's a RolePlaying game, not a deathmatch. Because chances are, most people would start using it to just fight other people, and forget about the rp.
You raise some good points there...FeralHeart is originally and probably always will be a roleplaying game. I'm sure there's plenty of other games out there that does have the life-bars and everything though.
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I agree with this, at some point;
but I would want an option to turn it off, example; trolls would come up and attack everybody, also with what Emily and Kaharu said, FeralHeart is a roleplaying game and life bars I wouldn't like.
If there WAS PvP in the game, I would certainly turn it off to chat with my friends instead of trying hard to avoid people who want to attack people untill they are dead and/or pissed off.
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Very nice idea, but I don't think this would be possible.
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It most likely could Silver, it would take a long time though.
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I know XD. When I learn coding fully, then something like this may come out (but it'll be years). (Yes, I am going to be a software/website developer)
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I think FeralHeart is a game where people can chat with each other and make roleplays. They can do different things, create different characters, and the only barrier is imagination. But life bars... I don't think they will make the game better. Simply running around and killing people isn't wery good, but if they add something like experience bars and awards, it would be better, I think.
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I think FeralHeart is a game where people can chat with each other and make roleplays. They can do different things, create different characters, and the only barrier is imagination. But life bars... I don't think they will make the game better. Simply running around and killing people isn't wery good, but if they add something like experience bars and awards, it would be better, I think.
What do you mean by "Experience bars?"
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I mean if they will add life bars and fighting, they must add experience. If someone kills prey or another user's character, he/she gets some experience. This experience can be used to increase your skills and even "buy" items ;)
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Seems worthy
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I mean if they will add life bars and fighting, they must add experience. If someone kills prey or another user's character, he/she gets some experience. This experience can be used to increase your skills and even "buy" items ;)
Indeed.
Example: the experience bar demands you get 2000 experience points to be able to further enhance your skills and 'buy' items. To achieve this, the player would go out and kill creatures to receive said experience points. Each creature would give you a different amount of experience points (e.g. a rabbit gives you 50 experience points). It's pretty similar to the experience systems MMO(RPG)s apply to their games (e.g. World of Warcraft, Guild Wars, RIFT, ...).
I do think, however, that experience bars should not be applied if we go with this idea. It would immediatly defeat the purpose of the game and turn it into an entirely new one; people would be more focused on enhancing their skills and getting items rather than roleplaying.
I think life bars and attacks are a great idea, but they should either limit it to attacks like the ones in Impressive Title or the ones OP stated. Perhaps they should add a little bar that sinks into the bottom of the screen when dismissed and can be brought up again when the player feels the urge to hunt that contains abilties much like the ones the OP stated.
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Yeah. You're right :D
It's a very good idea and I hope that game creators will apply it and bring this system in game.
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Yes the attacking other players randomly could be a problem, but like I said before, there could be something like a "Fight request". You don't have to fight if you don't want to. So the problem of being attacked all the time would be solved. And experience, skills, and buying items is nice, but I think that actual prey and fight sequences would really be the only thing that should be added. The life-bar thing would only appear and be active during a fight with no consequences after leaving a fight sequence. That the game itself wouldn't so much be changed entirely, but only improved.
So in summary, if fight sequences and prey were added, the game would gain some more interest, but stay true to the RPing base. Since fighting and prey wouldn't be COMPLETELY engrossing, and RPing would still be the main entertainment.
(I agree that experience and skills might distract players to much)
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Yeah, fight requests are good idea, too.
That won't make the game too dangerous for new members to play, and it will be more interesting.
As you said, it will also save roleplays :)
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I wouldn't play it that much because it would be like WolfQuest. I have it, but I really don't play it anymore. WolfQuest just has so much lag and glitches now I just play FH.
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It wouldn't be as fun, even thought it would for roleplays.
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You know I couldn't help replying to this because I was looking at this thread and thinking "Why would this ruin any game?" Do you REALLY think that you wouldn't have an option to accept a fight from someone or turn off requests to be fought? There are many options, and let me tell you, there's no way that it would ruin feral heart. I've played MANY games that have just utterly failed because they did no updates or really even tried to help the game get better, I haven't been playing feral heart because it's just the same things over and over, I've made lots of maps and roleplays, I believe that having combat would be an EXCELLENT idea for this game even if it's just for the change. As for lag, if you lag on feral heart besides in extremely populated areas (bonfire/flourite)... I think it's time to trash the dinosaur computer ;P. I've had a whole lot of experience with games like this, and there's no way it'd ruin the game if the developers went about it correctly, though I don't really even see them on these forums talking about it, I've seen just about two or three updates to the game, yes, it's free, but come on now, Arokai will have fighting, and that'll draw people away, fighting will just make roleplay better.
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You know I couldn't help replying to this because I was looking at this thread and thinking "Why would this ruin any game?" Do you REALLY think that you wouldn't have an option to accept a fight from someone or turn off requests to be fought? There are many options, and let me tell you, there's no way that it would ruin feral heart. I've played MANY games that have just utterly failed because they did no updates or really even tried to help the game get better, I haven't been playing feral heart because it's just the same things over and over, I've made lots of maps and roleplays, I believe that having combat would be an EXCELLENT idea for this game even if it's just for the change. As for lag, if you lag on feral heart besides in extremely populated areas (bonfire/flourite)... I think it's time to trash the dinosaur computer ;P. I've had a whole lot of experience with games like this, and there's no way it'd ruin the game if the developers went about it correctly, though I don't really even see them on these forums talking about it, I've seen just about two or three updates to the game, yes, it's free, but come on now, Arokai will have fighting, and that'll draw people away, fighting will just make roleplay better.
You have a good point. but I don't think it would happen
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You know I couldn't help replying to this because I was looking at this thread and thinking "Why would this ruin any game?" Do you REALLY think that you wouldn't have an option to accept a fight from someone or turn off requests to be fought? There are many options, and let me tell you, there's no way that it would ruin feral heart. I've played MANY games that have just utterly failed because they did no updates or really even tried to help the game get better, I haven't been playing feral heart because it's just the same things over and over, I've made lots of maps and roleplays, I believe that having combat would be an EXCELLENT idea for this game even if it's just for the change. As for lag, if you lag on feral heart besides in extremely populated areas (bonfire/flourite)... I think it's time to trash the dinosaur computer ;P. I've had a whole lot of experience with games like this, and there's no way it'd ruin the game if the developers went about it correctly, though I don't really even see them on these forums talking about it, I've seen just about two or three updates to the game, yes, it's free, but come on now, Arokai will have fighting, and that'll draw people away, fighting will just make roleplay better.
You have a good point. but I don't think it would happen
Well people shouldn't use the excuses that it wouldn't be good for the game, because I know plenty that it's false, as long as the dev's decide to put OPTIONS on the requests like in so many other games, there'd be no problems.
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You know what they say Silver. Flying is just throwing yourself at the ground, and learning how to miss. In other words, Nothing is impossible. If we FeralHeart-ians have enough faith and enough Game Makers... one day. This idea might come true.
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You know what they say Silver. Flying is just throwing yourself at the ground, and learning how to miss. In other words, Nothing is impossible. If we FeralHeart-ians have enough faith and enough Game Makers... one day. This idea might come true.
The argument I have to this is that, one, look at impressive title, that game had a lot of interesting stuff in it including combat, why wouldn't they do this in feral heart if they've already done it already and seen how much people enjoyed it? two, since I've been around I've seen like two major updates, this game has been around for a decent amount of time now, there isn't a reason they shouldn't make updates to it. Lastly, I know well that in a lot of games, really high end mmo's there is no connection between the developers and the gamers, which is a baaad thing lol, trust me -.- Either way, I'm saying that the developers could easily look at this thread and say "Hey maybe we should do this because it'd be a good thing for the game" buttt, who's on this thread right now? I mean they could at least give us a hint saying "Yes we're working to improve the game if even just a little" There are still bugs in the game to be fixed too.
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You know what they say Silver. Flying is just throwing yourself at the ground, and learning how to miss. In other words, Nothing is impossible. If we FeralHeart-ians have enough faith and enough Game Makers... one day. This idea might come true.
The argument I have to this is that, one, look at impressive title, that game had a lot of interesting stuff in it including combat, why wouldn't they do this in feral heart if they've already done it already and seen how much people enjoyed it? two, since I've been around I've seen like two major updates, this game has been around for a decent amount of time now, there isn't a reason they shouldn't make updates to it. Lastly, I know well that in a lot of games, really high-end mmo's there is no connection between the developers and the gamers, which is a baaad thing lol, trust me -.- Either way, I'm saying that the developers could easily look at this thread and say "Hey maybe we should do this because it'd be a good thing for the game" butt, who's on this thread right now? I mean they could at least give us a hint saying "Yes we're working to improve the game if even just a little" There are still bugs in the game to be fixed too.
And now....I started a argument
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And now....I started a argument
The argument I have to this is that, one, look at impressive title, that game had a lot of interesting stuff in it including combat, why wouldn't they do this in feral heart if they've already done it already and seen how much people enjoyed it? two, since I've been around I've seen like two major updates, this game has been around for a decent amount of time now, there isn't a reason they shouldn't make updates to it. Lastly, I know well that in a lot of games, really high-end mmo's there is no connection between the developers and the gamers, which is a baaad thing lol, trust me -.- Either way, I'm saying that the developers could easily look at this thread and say "Hey maybe we should do this because it'd be a good thing for the game" butt, who's on this thread right now? I mean they could at least give us a hint saying "Yes we're working to improve the game if even just a little" There are still bugs in the game to be fixed too.
Naw, you didn't start an argument, Silver.
Samantha, the reason that the Game Developers didn't put in attacks and prey originally is because Kovu wanted to start something new. Something that wasn't just another copy of Impressive Title. He wanted Feral Heart to be completely RP based. What I'm saying is that maybe having a new and different fighting sequences with not only prey, but with each other. Even though Feral Heart is a great game now, eventually it will lose out to a better game like Arokai might be. So adding an update with this idea might save the game in the long run, and make it more interesting, yet still stick true to Kovu's plan of being RP based.
But again. It will take alot of time to program something like that. And they still have to work out the glitches that Feral Heart has now.
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And now....I started a argument
The argument I have to this is that, one, look at impressive title, that game had a lot of interesting stuff in it including combat, why wouldn't they do this in feral heart if they've already done it already and seen how much people enjoyed it? two, since I've been around I've seen like two major updates, this game has been around for a decent amount of time now, there isn't a reason they shouldn't make updates to it. Lastly, I know well that in a lot of games, really high-end mmo's there is no connection between the developers and the gamers, which is a baaad thing lol, trust me -.- Either way, I'm saying that the developers could easily look at this thread and say "Hey maybe we should do this because it'd be a good thing for the game" butt, who's on this thread right now? I mean they could at least give us a hint saying "Yes we're working to improve the game if even just a little" There are still bugs in the game to be fixed too.
Naw, you didn't start an argument, Silver.
Samantha, the reason that the Game Developers didn't put in attacks and prey originally is because Kovu wanted to start something new. Something that wasn't just another copy of Impressive Title. He wanted Feral Heart to be completely RP based. What I'm saying is that maybe having a new and different fighting sequences with not only prey, but with each other. Even though Feral Heart is a great game now, eventually it will lose out to a better game like Arokai might be. So adding an update with this idea might save the game in the long run, and make it more interesting, yet still stick true to Kovu's plan of being RP based.
But again. It will take alot of time to program something like that. And they still have to work out the glitches that Feral Heart has now.
I have seen no attempt from them lately to fix these bugs that I see lol, kind of boring to be honest, and they do have the power to make that happen, they could at least try.
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I don't think it would be a very good idea. We would have the troubles of players attacking random players and killing them. And since there is attacks, there would be skilled players and non-skilled players. Sure, it would be fun, but there are many problems coming along with the idea. If you want to attack and hunt with friends, play WolfQuest. :P
Unless there was no fighting with other players, then I don't think the idea should be considered. Or at least you'd have to send a request to fight and the other person would have to accept. But so much work that would take!
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I don't think it would be a very good idea. We would have the troubles of players attacking random players and killing them. And since there is attacks, there would be skilled players and non-skilled players. Sure, it would be fun, but there are many problems coming along with the idea. If you want to attack and hunt with friends, play WolfQuest. :P
Unless there was no fighting with other players, then I don't think the idea should be considered. Or at least you'd have to send a request to fight and the other person would have to accept. But so much work that would take!
How many times must I repeat this. If the fight request was added the same time as the attacks, then the random attacks would be instantly solved. And the purpose of adding these things isn't to feed some desire to hunt prey and fight, its to add some new more excitement to the roleplay. WolfQuest doesn't provide the same RP experience as FH. If you read the very first post. You would know that.
And Samantha, I'm can assure you that programmers are working hard everyday. Its not rocket science, but its definitely not easy. Its not easy to figure out what the glitches happening are. When they do finally figure those out, they might actually have time to consider this idea of mine.
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Such would be great, it would add more variety to the game. However, certain measures could be added to prevent it from getting out of control. This pretty much gives me an idea...
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It would be cool but then the server would become PvP and you know what that means. it would be annoying because other players will kill you without a reason .I still like FH the way it is.
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This is getting really annoying. - . -' Will you PLEASE read the previous posts before you comment. The issue of "random killings" was solved well over a week ago.
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(^) Amel, I am with you, this is getting annoying a bit.
Anna, I agree. FeralHeart is awesome & great the way it is.
Why I AGREE with this idea:
FeralHeart is used for roleplaying & chatting with others. Since it's used for roleplaying, it would be an advantage. P.v.P (Player vs. Player). It would be necessary to add a option to turn it off & on. However, this is my opinion.
Why I DISAGREE with this Idea:
People could take advantage of this by killing your character. Even though it's a great idea, I think it just wouldn't make FeralHeart the FeralHeart it was then.
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It Would Be More Cool If You Had POWERS!!!! =D
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Why not also add a time limit to sending requests? For example, someone wants to fight with you, so he/she sends a request. The sent request will only be able to be repeated by waiting for about 10 minutes. That woulds be great! Way better than when that person annoyingly sends a request every 5 seconds when you answered no. That would be very annoying O_O.
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Why not also add a time limit to sending requests? For example, someone wants to fight with you, so he/she sends a request. The sent request will only be able to be repeated by waiting for about 10 minutes. That woulds be great! Way better than when that person annoyingly sends a request every 5 seconds when you answered no. That would be very annoying O_O.
Very good, good suggestion. Then and again, this would also apply to friend requests right?
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The idea of adding a combat system into the game seems cool especially for those people who maybe aren't so great with RP fighting since it would seem more practical to them but then again it would probably take away the imagination and challenge of RP fighting. Lets also not forget to mention that if they did add a combat system into the game it would not only take a while to program but also that means they would have to add some kind of leveling up and skills to characters. The trolls of the game would also abuse of the fight request thing and spam people out with them.
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I agree. But is their really a need for leveling up and skills? I think just a good old fight sequence program would be enough for me. And yes, it would be a GREAT idea to add a limit to fight requests. You can only send one every like... 5-10 minutes. And maybe it you could still chat while you fight. That way you can say what your doing, and keep the imagination alive. :D We gotta keep brain storming so that we can figure out a way to get out all possibilities of troll abuse.
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I reckon that life bars will definetly change Feral Heart completely whether that is in a good or bad way, it will definetly make a difference.
In my opinion (I know it would be complicated) but perhaps a system where you can choose to fight by selecting like a "Threat Mode"? Which would engage your char in attack status. Or perhaps there could be certain maps where only attacks or fights may be enabled in-game, such as a 'PVP' (Person Versus Person) map.
However, I do believe that it may give 'trols' of Feral Heart an advantage to gang up on people and victimize them at that, this would be unacceptable and complaints might be made from parents as it may display aggression/violence AND bullying. (This does not mean I do not trust the moderators, but they have lives of their own to attend to and may not always be there to 'save the day', this I do respect.)
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Great Idea. How about there is like a button to press and you can dodge an attack? But you have like a limit of like 5-10 dodges? And there is a limit of time the fight can go on like maybe 5-10 minutes? Or there is a choice like; Fight to the death or Fight. Fight to the death is fighting to the death, and fighting it like fight till your time is up and whoever has the most health, wins.
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I love the Idea of Attacks just for FUN but not health bars because then It would just be no fun....
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I really like the idea. It would make FH so much funnier. I mean, c'mon. I hate pretending I kill, say, an elk in an Rp. It just makes you look like an idiot. I really hope someone puts this in consideration. Possibly in a future update later on, or in 2013, something along that line.
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There were health bars and such in Impressive Title, but that was only for hunting. To be honest, it sounds fun and all but it is pretty pointless when it comes to RP. Because when you fight RP, it's fun to think of your own moves and such. Though, maybe there could be a fighting action, like with howl and roar. Being able to move the legs and paws in an action would be nice.