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Title: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Killian on May 06, 2013, 03:57:06 pm
I have been in many RP's that claim to be realistic and they just aren't.

One of the best examples is a wolf pack I joined that was 'realistic' but all the wolves had mowhawks, bright colours and unrealistic none-existent ranks. This 'healer' rank I think should not exist in a realistic wolf pack as I believe it's a warrior cat thing, right? Warrior cats aren't realistic! Wolves lick their wounds and get on with it, not hang around for days having a salad rubbed into their cuts. If you're going to RP like that you're semi-realistic.

I think (My own opinion) that they think they are realistic because none of them have powers and can use amazing wolf speak. I did hear someone complaining about a wolf using wolf speak and she said "I speak like that because I am realistic and literate, you can only be in this pack if you use wolf speak" Personally I hate wolf speakers that think using it makes them amazing RPers.

I think realistic RP's should be what they say they are. Real looking characters that behave as they would in the wild.

What about you guys? Have an opinion or have you ever joined an RP that wasn't as realistic as they claimed?
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: nicekind on May 06, 2013, 04:16:05 pm
Oh wolf speak I have always hated it and always will hate it.
I don't know many Wolf Speakers so I don't really know...
But yes they say that are literate but that seriously will not make them literate on that case just ask could we none Wolf Speak? If not then better leave the pack....

I think all those realistic and semi-realistic are pretty mixed up I see groups called realistic who are far away from that they wear any kind of items, they have neon... idk what else. So if you join a pack you better ask how realistic this pack is and maybe they could tell about their rping idea.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Nemena on May 06, 2013, 05:57:08 pm
I personally don't think a roleplay's fully realistic until the characters are entirely without manes, unusual colours and cannot speak. I've a wealth of mute, realistic characters myself and it always pains me to join a group... And realize that everyone can talk! Communicating through body language can be a very rewarding challenge. Even so, I'm surprised groups are advertised as such when their mannerisms couldn't be further from realistic.  :P

The people who claim Wolfspeak makes you realistic are... Rather confused. It's an odd form of roleplay that makes your posts clunky, confusing and nigh impossible to understand. Far, far too much purple prose for my tastes; Wolfspeak embodies exactly what you shouldn't do if you seek to become a published author! People can certainly roleplay however they wish, but making such claims... :(
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Killian on May 06, 2013, 06:45:42 pm
I'd love to destroy the person that invented the horror that is wolf speak. Nemena has really hit the nail on the head there, I've RP'd in only one mute role play that didn't last an evening because not enough people appreciated it's true realism. I've never seen another and don't think it's worth  having a mute character that isn't in a group because it would be impossible to RP at all.

I'd be happy to join a group that was fully realistic but we could still talk, takes the edge off when you want to RP but haven't got the energy to work on it. I'm sick of the silly ranks 'pack laws' and so on. If they send me out to collect healing berries again I'll die lol. Not saying I'm a better RPer then they are mind.

But yeah, RP how ever you want but don't claim you're something you're not.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Tearless on May 06, 2013, 07:48:11 pm
Wholeheartedly agree on the wolfspeak front; it does nothing but make things drawn out and confusing. Though I RP literately, I honestly prefer comparitively short and concise posts that get the point across to a three post long description of the moon reflecting off a character's ice blue orbs. Long posts are nice in paragraph style, but it shouldn't be the primary objective.

As for the realism thing... that's a bit tricky. I agree that it would be lovely if Rps were what they claimed to be in ads, with realistic actually meaning realistic, but because of the way people interpret the word in FH it just doesn't work out. I run an RP about street dogs in a post-apocalyptic city, complete with radiation, mad scientists, mutations, the odd love triangle... not what you'd call realistic in plot or content. However, character designs have to be at least semi-realistic (neon/unnatural colours are forbidden, manes are technically allowed even though I kind of hate them because they're just so widespread it's impractical to try avoiding them, but you can be reasonably creative with markings and patterns as long as you aren't checkerboard or something), and I advertised as semi for a while. The only problem was that I would get things like purple spots, white hair, and swirly markings, which apparently still qualify as semi.

Anyway, that's my overly-long explanation of why I personally advertise as realistic, even though we really aren't. Even advertising as realistic I still get the occasional bright red nose or 'abyss' black, and some of them actually get offended when I ask them to change it to fit the criteria. I'd love it if realism went deeper than 'no neon' and not every wolf had emo hair, but... I don't see it changing any time soon.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Lady_Alizarin on May 06, 2013, 10:51:08 pm
Quote from: Nathan on May 06, 2013, 03:57:06 pm
Warrior cats aren't realistic! Wolves lick their wounds and get on with it, not hang around for days having a salad rubbed into their cuts.

Haha! I couldn't help but laugh as I read that part. You're killin' me, man XD

Okay, enough with the laughing. It's time for my bit of input. I can understand what you mean as far as what realistic goes. It's often times hard to find a roleplay that is strictly realistic. I've always prefered characters that are semi-realistic; realistic colors and markings, but with unatural eye colors. As for the RPs, I've always prefered realistic to semi-realistic. Often times whenever I try to play realistically, the people around me get bored of playing realistically. I guess most people like a little more action in the story, and RPs that are more out-of-the-ordinary.

I personally don't find anything wrong with the use of mane on some canine characters. All of my characters have mane on their heads, but rarely have any back mane. The only time I use back mane on some of my characters is to signifiy that they have long hair/fur, or to make them look a tiny bit more masculine. None of my female characters have the back mane, but they will have the hair on their heads. I think as long as the mane suits the character, I find nothing wrong with it.

Is Warrior Cats realistic? No. It's all based on fiction novels. I think the ones who advertise their Warrior RPs to be realistic are probably trying to say that their RP doesn't have any cats with big supernatural powers... or something like that. Most Warrior RPs I've been part of were semi-realistic. And then I've seen some that were unrealistic to the max (such as a WC leader with the ability to turn into a wolf... I guess he was a werewolf cat?).

As for the wolfspeak.... you're right. Just because someone uses wolfspeak, it doesn't mean they are being realistic. They may claim to be literate and realistic, but many of those wolfspeak terms just don't fit. I am not a fan of wolfspeak at all. I will never use it and you can't make me T^T.

Thats all I have to say about that.  
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Smilodoncat on May 07, 2013, 12:01:01 am
If you want to be realistic, wolves shouldn't talk at all!

Anyways, I hate Wolf Speak.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: ~Stargazer~ on May 07, 2013, 01:23:37 am
Quote from: Nathan on May 06, 2013, 03:57:06 pm
One of the best examples is a wolf pack I joined that was 'realistic' but all the wolves had mowhawks, bright colours and unrealistic none-existent ranks. This 'healer' rank I think should not exist in a realistic wolf pack as I believe it's a warrior cat thing, right? Warrior cats aren't realistic! Wolves lick their wounds and get on with it, not hang around for days having a salad rubbed into their cuts. If you're going to RP like that you're semi-realistic.

I have to agree with you there but I must admit that my pack (I'm the alpha) has the 'healer' rank only we use the term shaman. We don't do it the way warrior cats do it though. If a wolf came up to up and had a couple of scratches then we wouldn't treat it. If the had blood gushing out of they're stomach then we would treat it. Also here's what happened one time when a pup got a sharp stone in his foot:

Pup: Ouch! -he howled as a sharp river stone dug its way deep into his paw-
Mother: What happened?!? -she gasp as she rushed to her pup-
Pup: There's  a stone in my paw! -he whimpered-
*Shaman walks over to them, hearing the conversation*
Mother: Do something! -she fretted-
*Shaman pulls rock out of paw and turns around to leave*
Mother: Wait, aren't you going to put something on the cut?
*Alpha (me) walks over to scene*
Me: Why, it's just a cut?
Mother: It's not like it doesn't hurt!
Me: I never said life would be easy. He's not spewing blood everywhere, he'll live.
*She started yelling at me*
Me: Shut up! We're wolves! Not warrior cats! I not gonna say to your pup 'Ok deary, now make sure you don't walk on your paw for the next 48 hours'.

Then everyone started laughing....except the mom lol
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: BouncyLion101 on May 07, 2013, 02:20:42 am
I know that feeling when you find the group isn't realistic. :c
I once joined a "realistic" dog roleplay.
It was my first real realistic roleplay, and I got all excited and make my dog character as realistic as I could. Turns out the other roleplayers looked more like wolves than dogs and had back manes and I think one had a mohawk.
Kind of funny, now that I look back to it. I don't know, I didn't really find it as amusing when at the time. I was more like: "Are you serious?"


And I don't think there will ever be any true realistic roleplays. If it were truly realistic then, as stated above, the characters wouldn't talk. I know I personally do not enjoy communicating through only body language.
It can easily be misinterpreted and people could get bored with those kind of roleplays.

People actually claim to be literate and realistic just because they can use wolfspeak? Wow. That just made me a little depressed right there.
But anyway, I think you should tell those people that it is not okay for them to look down on non-wolfspeak roleplayers and not even allow them in their group because they don't use big words incorrectly.
Never really been a fan of wolfspeak, and I think now it should have stayed in WolfQuest or where ever it came from.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Killian on May 07, 2013, 07:23:56 am
These replies are very promising for me, it means there are good RPers out there. I will reply properly when I have time. Thanks for looking guys.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Roki on May 07, 2013, 12:13:38 pm
I fully agree with you there.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: kiaz1st on May 07, 2013, 12:29:07 pm
I once joined 'realistic' pride. though we could speak, I didnt mind that much, many prides in which you can speak are considered realistic, because otherwise it gets slightly difficult to rp. (Even though I really want one like that. I've only ever found a cheetah rp that doesnt include speaking ;-;)
so I was ok with that. but then, I found that some people were black, white, and one even had purple markings. I put up with that. then we went to rp.........

Kamara(me): she lay her body down on the ground with a huff. she flicked her tail slowly, looking around at her new pride. she would have to get used to hunting under the lead of another lionness. she watched the rest of the group fill into the home site.
Tala(Queen):literate please kamara)) She swished her banner gently from one side to the other as he elegant pillers took her to her usual spot. her cranium span around , allowling her optics to scan the pride. her auds picked up the faintest sounds
Kamara has left the group
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Killian on May 07, 2013, 03:49:01 pm
Kiaz, I died. That made me laugh so hard. I would have done the same!

Yes, Wolfspeak does not make you literate at all it makes every paragraph you post all about yourself and how elegant and beautiful your wolf is.
If my dainty pillars ever move me lightly along the hard terrain with my smooth banner held high above my cranium, shoot me.

Someone else mentioned RP post length, and I agree with them. I like short and sweet RP posts. Too many people also believe length means literacy and experience. I witnessed someone have to post three times because FH's chat box didn't give them enough room. They ended their post with ''(Short, sorry)''. I was stunned. What RP do you have to be in to consider a three paragraphed RP post short?

I always find waiting for people to post back walls of text explaining in great detail about them simply walking up to me asking who I am to be kind of annoying. No offence to them if they have the skill to do that but it just isn't necessary. Keep it simple, help the RP flow.

Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Tearless on May 07, 2013, 04:35:58 pm
Especially given the nature of RPing on Feralheart. Because of the post limit and the general courtesy rule of not cutting people off, a pointlessly long post can really hold things up, especially if you're not really forwarding the plot.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: SteampunkWolfdog on May 07, 2013, 06:58:30 pm
I think there's varying degrees of realism in the 'realistic' category.

One of them being the really strict 'David Attenborough' style realism, where you behave exactly as your chosen species would in their natural and realistic setting. So, no healer ranks for wolves, for example, and every character has to have realistic colours and markings i.e. greys, browns and blacks, and no hair styles. This type of realism you don't see around very often.

Then there's the other type of realistic that allows some 'unrealistic' ranks and behaviours, such as the healer. But most other behaviours, communications and characteristics are realistic to the species, with the exception of hair styles. I think this type of realism leaves more room for creativity and individuality for players; because in the 'David Attenborough' type I described, nearly every character would look very similar and people might get bored easily. Personally, I prefer this type of realism for a roleplay.

As for wolfspeak, I'll be straight to the point. It makes you sound like a person with a thesaurus in front of them, and has veral diarrhea, with no knowledge of what the words they are using actually mean.  Because a lot of the time, these words are being used in completely the wrong context. Thus, your post, makes no grammatical sense. End of.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Lady_Alizarin on May 07, 2013, 07:27:03 pm
Quote from: Kiaz(kiya) on May 07, 2013, 12:29:07 pm
Kamara(me): she lay her body down on the ground with a huff. she flicked her tail slowly, looking around at her new pride. she would have to get used to hunting under the lead of another lionness. she watched the rest of the group fill into the home site.
Tala(Queen):literate please kamara)) She swished her banner gently from one side to the other as he elegant pillers took her to her usual spot. her cranium span around , allowling her optics to scan the pride. her auds picked up the faintest sounds
Kamara has left the group

Gee, I guess so-called realistic lion roleplays have "lionspeak"? I would have done the same thing and left the group without hesitation. I would want to have fun and roleplay, not speak a whole bunch of giberish just to try and sound "literate".

This whole talk about being realistic reminds me of a time I pulled the realistic playing card just to get a mate-begger off my back. I was on my male bobcat character, and this person who wanted to be mates with my character changed into a a female bobcat. She just automatically claimed to be my mate. I pulled this quote from the "When Mate-begging Goes Too Far" thread...

Quote from: Lady_Alizarin on April 05, 2013, 06:28:02 pm

One of my character's daughters came onto the scene. Yes, Kojak has cubs. When his daughter came up to us, the female bobcat said to her...
F Bobcat: "I'm ___ and this is my mate, Kojak. What did you come here for?"
Bobcat Cub: "I came to see Kojak."
Kojak Bobcat: "This is my daughter."
F Bobcat: O.O Daughter? You already have a mate?
Kojak: "I do have a few mates. I used to have 5 but some of them got trapped by hunters."
F Bobcat: 5 MATES?! That's not right!
Kojak: Male bobcats can have more than one out in the wild. It's nature))
F Bobcat: So we are playing realistically?
Kojak: I always play realistically.
Bobcat Cub: Same here
F Bobcat: This is stupid -.-

So I eventually had to log off, and that's when it ended.

This is why most people don't like that kind of realistic roleplay. But hey, that's NATURE realistically. If you don't like it, don't pretend to live in it. But of course, some people don't know all about the lives of wild animals and how they live.  
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Nemena on May 07, 2013, 07:40:41 pm
Quote from: Tearless on May 07, 2013, 04:35:58 pm
Especially given the nature of RPing on Feralheart. Because of the post limit and the general courtesy rule of not cutting people off, a pointlessly long post can really hold things up, especially if you're not really forwarding the plot.

Augh, yes!

People seem stuck in the mentality that the longer the post, the better the roleplay. I try to keep mine between one or two chunks of text, even though I'm capable of much, much more! The other person doesn't need to know how the moon reflects off my character's eyes, or how the wind gently bristles their fur; they merely need to do what my character's doing in relation to theirs. As a chat-based roleplaying format, too much unnecessary detail even detracts from the roleplay-- things need to be constantly moving.

I was once part of a group of roleplayers who had an odd "five paragraphs per post" rule. The roleplay was so drawn-out that it never, ever went anywhere; I often had to wait an entire fifteen minutes for the next post. They were skilled writers, but the entire endeavour was so unfathomably dull! :P
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Tearless on May 07, 2013, 07:52:48 pm
Good heavens, five paragraph rule? O_o I can only imagine... I think I've only ever gone on that long during those times when there are only two or three people RPing and no one has nowhere else to go that day so everyone sits around waxing poetic. XD Otherwise I just feel guilty for taking up space.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Lady_Alizarin on May 07, 2013, 08:09:21 pm
Quote from: Nemena on May 07, 2013, 07:40:41 pm

People seem stuck in the mentality that the longer the post, the better the roleplay.
I was once part of a group of roleplayers who had an odd "five paragraphs per post" rule. The roleplay was so drawn-out that it never, ever went anywhere; I often had to wait an entire fifteen minutes for the next post. They were skilled writers, but the entire endeavour was so unfathomably dull! :P

Say whaaaaaat?! I would have lost patience if I had to wait for someone to write out a 5 paragraph post just to sound all literate and such. That's just downright unusual, I tell ya. I seriously think that it doesn't matter how long the post is... it's the quality that counts, not the quantity of the words.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: PumkinPie5764 on May 07, 2013, 08:31:40 pm
Meh, ''Wolf speak?'' Heh...This is kind of awkward. I have always hated wolf speak. I also don't see anything wrong with manes. I mean, without manes your wolf you created, I think, looks quite plain, even though my fursona was made without one. But I made it that way cause he is extremly realistic. Almost all my other characters have manes, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Now, on back to wolfspeak. Wolfspeak...I say is for people who really don't know how to speak. ''Bark Bark.'' Wow. I don't even know what that person is trying to say. Oh wait, I know, ''I can't talk I'm to realistic.'' If kind of gets on my nerves, though it's rare. So, I agree with most of the people above, It's stupid and it's nonsense that people say, ''It's realistic.''
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Killian on May 07, 2013, 09:34:32 pm
I agree with the above, manes do look right on some characters. You can see in my avatar that I am partial to a mowhawk myself. But the character in my avatar is a species I made up and isn't in one particular RP. (Mostly because none will take him on).

I find if someone is taking a long time to post  their part to the RP I lose interest really fast. It takes a bit out of you to have the patience to hang in there waiting. I have actually left groups because of it. You could just tell that they couldn't think of anything to type down to make their posts long, but the pressure put on them by other RPers meant they didn't want to put short posts down.  Which is wrong really, people shouldn't feel pressured to type out masses if they just can't. For me, the feral heart chat box give me just enough room. If I go over what it allows I shorten it.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Mondevu on May 10, 2013, 06:19:07 pm
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he swished her banner gently from one side to the other as he elegant pillers took her to her usual spot. her cranium span around , allowling her optics to scan the pride. her auds picked up the faintest sounds

This both makes me laugh, and makes me want to flip tables. Because out of the above post, even though I knew exactly what this person was saying, this is what my mind translated:

"She waved a flag gently from side to side as her elegantly carved cylindrical rocks took her to her usual spot. Her head spun around in a circle, allowing her eyes to scan the pride for viruses. Her auditors picked up the faintest sounds."

Does that make any sense to you? 'Cause it sure didn't to me. XD And I chose "auditors" because "auds" is NOT a freaking word! I recently made a blog post about this. For any of you interested, it's here: http://tfaorp.blogspot.com/p/the-problems-with-lyricism.html (http://tfaorp.blogspot.com/p/the-problems-with-lyricism.html) Just beware of the length. XD
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Killian on May 11, 2013, 11:37:51 am
Very true there Mondevu, though sometimes I see people ''wolf speaking'' and sadly I struggle to understand a word their saying. Some people use it so much there isn't a single recognizable word in their post. I did have a screen shot of one that made me ill just reading it, he made his wolf sound like this guy http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121218131312/silent/images/thumb/2/27/MANNEQUIN_SPIDER.JPG/500px-MANNEQUIN_SPIDER.JPG (http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121218131312/silent/images/thumb/2/27/MANNEQUIN_SPIDER.JPG/500px-MANNEQUIN_SPIDER.JPG) from the silent hill movie. It had pillars and auds sticking out everywhere.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: BlackHolesAndRevelations on May 11, 2013, 08:51:50 pm
Alright, opinions. I love opinions. Also, a rant. Okay.
I think that a realistic roleplay doesn't mean exactly what you say. I think there can be a bit of slack on it. Personally, I don't think you have to be completely realistic colors, no mane, few tufts, brown eyes, etc. I like originality, so I stick towards the semi-realistic side, and fun plots. Once in a while I like a realistic RP, but not THAT realistic. That's more.. Extreme realism. I like the standard realistic roleplays, because you still have freedom with the RP and your character. It's opinion, though.~
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Mondevu on May 12, 2013, 05:04:00 am
Revelation. Your post.

Nailed it.

Roleplaying is supposed to be FUN and LEGIBLE. If you're militant about appearances and the very freaking words other people type, you aren't running a roleplay that's worth jack diddly.

And Nathan, totally agree. I had a post that just confused the hell out of me, and I did my best to recreate it in that blog I linked you to on Lyricism. :/

I've even come across this mess while in otherwise good RPs. It was just one lyricised sentence, but it still made me tilt my head. The post was this:

Quote
"A nose was upon her dermal pushing warm breath, that steamed from the winter pelt she grew."

And my brain translated it this way:

Quote
"A nose was on her skin and her fur was breathing."

You might as well say something like this, if you're going to be that bizarre.

Quote
"If you insist in your vexatious prognostications I will be forced to horizontalise your perpendicularity"
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Flamestar on May 15, 2013, 02:02:38 pm
...Technically, no Rp in FH is truly realistic. NONE. NOOONNNEEEE. Why? Because the characters SPEAK. Do wolves speak? Nu. Do cats speak? NU. Do any animals except for some birds and humans speak? NUUUUUUUU. So really... no Rp you join will ever be truly realistic. Example of actual realism:
Alpha Wolf: The large wolf growled at his packmate, glaring down at him.
Omega: He whined, crouching, and stared up at the alpha, exposing his throat and moving his tail between his legs.
Alpha: The alpha huffed and began to trot away.

Dat is realistic..... Notice how they don't talk? Unrealistic but SEEMS realistic:

Naki: "Hi!" she barked as she rushed over to her brother. "Did you catch anything?"
Muri: "No," he growled solemnly. "Nothing. There's no prey."

Now. that LOOKS realistic, but what is the problem? Talking. Talking wolves makes the difference. So people... don't complain about Rps advertising as realistic and not truly being realistic, because NO Rp will ACTUALLY be realistic. .-. Not even yours, because I'm sure your character talks.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Nemena on May 15, 2013, 02:35:18 pm
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: kiaz1st on May 15, 2013, 04:06:56 pm
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: sparticles on May 15, 2013, 06:56:55 pm
 In my opinion wolf speak shouldn't be used and if your going to do a realistic role-play then it should be realistic. Many roale-plays I have seen beeing advertised usually say '100% realistic' and you join only to find out the rp is only 50% realistic. And that usually leave the realistic role players dissapointed as they're joining a semi-realistic role play!.
One I joined the wolves could talk, they had mawhawks, could swim under water for ages, killed elk alone, killed eachother etc. That is not realistic! A single wolf cannot bring down prey as big as an elk alone (this also goes for prides etc) they can only hunt rabbits (etc) alone, a wolf can't speak therefore you should use body language to help communicate this would make the rp a whole lot interesting and giving us more to work out, if a wolf stayed under water for ages it would drown, and a wolfs couldn't kill another instantly it would take quite a lot of fighting until on was injured or even killed. Along with many other 'moves'.
In my opinion if your going to make a realistic role play then do it properly, acting like they would exactly in nature; hunting in groups, not instantly killing eachother, not staying uner water for ages and using body language to communicate not actually talking. Well that's my opinion anyway. I myself prefer to realistic role-plays as I find they are more fun then the semi, but others may think differently.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Wynterr X on May 17, 2013, 01:23:25 pm
I have mixed feelings on Wolf-Speak. I prefer when it is not used, but I don't mind a FEW scattered Wolf-Speak words, as long as it's obvious to what they mean. ^_^ And I agree with the whole healer thing. Wolves can treat their wounds like cats realistically would, by licking them; not by using herbs and leaves.

I think, discussing human-like topics, such as cars and humans themselves, wolves should be able to have another name for those, but when it comes to made-up words that the characters use instead of real words, I can't stand it. For one, there are a lot of people who probably have no idea what that even means or what you're trying to say. Two, it would get annoying when you're trying to roleplay normally and then someone posts a sentence that is just a bunch of random Wolf-Speak stuck together, not even in sentence format!
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: ::BarkingHowl:: on May 18, 2013, 07:40:30 am
I don't mind wolf speak. If a pack chooses to wolf speak, that's not a problem. I'll happily use it, but I'm a little confused at all the names. 'Banner'? I thought that was like a flag. If you want to be so realistic, don't use verbal communication at all. c:
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: MarilynManson on May 24, 2013, 09:53:57 am
Quote from: Nathan on May 06, 2013, 03:57:06 pm
having a salad rubbed into their cuts

Omg that's genius, I must write that down in my list of insults for Warrior Cats.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Killian on May 25, 2013, 11:59:58 am
Sorry! Didn't know this was still alive.

Thanks, Murr xD Only cats will know the true healing powers of a lettuce leaf
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: rainbowanemone on December 01, 2013, 03:55:16 am
Pardon me but i really must ask. Don't think of e as a noob ; n; although i might as well be but will someone please inform me of what exactly this "Wolf Speak" is. I have not got a straight definition for it. I LOVE to rp and i hope im not doing it wrong. Please help me and reply to this so i can better myself; _ ; </3 ~
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: hugrf2 on December 01, 2013, 04:02:21 am
Quote from: Chora on December 01, 2013, 03:55:16 am
Pardon me but i really must ask. Don't think of e as a noob ; n; although i might as well be but will someone please inform me of what exactly this "Wolf Speak" is. I have not got a straight definition for it. I LOVE to rp and i hope im not doing it wrong. Please help me and reply to this so i can better myself; _ ; </3 ~

Don't worry, it's alright, I understand. Now to answer your question, I'd actually suggest looking here (http://www.feral-heart.com/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=2&jfile=index.php&topic=32034.0) to understand it. Now if I had to explain though, I'd say it's a certain roleplay style that people think is grammar-correct, or as they usually say, "literate", but really it's just plain ridiculous and bad grammar. I'd allow someone to wolfspeak a tiny bit if I understand it, but if it's even a kind of roleplay that's just really hard to understand like wolfspeak, then well... I'd suggest making more sense. o3o In no way is it "literate" to me. Sorry if I offended anyone.

That's all I have to say for now.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Black-Serpent on December 01, 2013, 05:03:39 pm
 I do not conform to this 'wolf-speak'. I have saw for myself what it was.
Fellow role-players are misunderstood time & time again, and often confuse one another.
Although wolf-speak has been around for a very long time now, people will (eventually) adapt to it.

I personally have distaste with wolf-speak because it doesn't fit in the
morales of role-play of my preference, let alone with the ludicrous over-use of
adjectives with using a Thesaurus.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: wolvesaregreat on December 01, 2013, 08:40:03 pm
Group inactivity is worst, but sometimes being illiterate, for example, in  literate pack can be worse.
Yet many people have their own view for realistic. For me, it's realistic when you mostly use body language (but describe it clearly and what it means so players can understand), when your pack has realistic ranks (many put hunters and healers, but only ranks are dominance, wolves don't have jobs as much as I know) and when you are realistic (tiny wolves with sharp ears and neon colors aren't really seen in wild).
So yeah, it's hard to find realistic and literate groups, but keep trying. And "rubbing salad in their wounds" made my day.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Jango_Fett on December 02, 2013, 02:56:17 pm
 Isn't there ALREADY a WolfSpeak haters thread?



Anyway, not really much I can say here since most is already said no?
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Fallenleaf on December 03, 2013, 10:39:41 pm
Realism can have a lot of meanings. For example, a realistic wolf pack would only accept wolves from the same kind. Or Warriors Cats RPs can be realistic, in that case, it would mean that they respect the main ideas of the books, even though the books in themselves can't be qualified as realistic.

I don't think manes of any kinds mean anything. It is more the global 'apparence' of the character that counts; does it look like what it's supposed to be? Is it of the right size? Is it a normal being (without any kinds of powers)? But, maneless wolves do look more realistic.

And Wolfspeak. I had a bad experience with it, since I'm not a native English speaker, I guess I just trusted what my FH pals did. It was a bad idea. I learned my lesson about words, but I wouldn't go as far as saying that I hate Wolfspeakers. I don't use it and I respect those who use it. Not going to bash at people for something I once did.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: ~Stargazer~ on December 03, 2013, 10:46:43 pm
Wolf speak..... It speaks for itself...


Fae

What wolf speakers think it is:

noun.
1.
A female.

What it actually is:

noun.
1.
Air fuel Explosive


Hessian

What wolf speakers think it is:

noun.
1.
A male.

What it actually is:

noun.
1.
A fabric
2.
A German soldier
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Silvertide on December 04, 2013, 05:02:54 am
Personally, I think a completely realistic RP would get boring after a while, the healing rank adds some fun in. For the rest of the stuff you said, I completely agree.
Title: Re: Wolf Speak makes your RP more realistic.
Post by: Jango_Fett on December 04, 2013, 04:26:53 pm
Quote from: Murr on May 24, 2013, 09:53:57 am
Quote from: Nathan on May 06, 2013, 03:57:06 pm
having a salad rubbed into their cuts

Omg that's genius, I must write that down in my list of insults for Warrior Cats.


 This thread is not talking about WC, or insulting them for following the books.

Anyways, I agree, full on realism, if not done right, will get boring.  Sometimes we need a little fantasy to make things interesting.