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What is your opinion on illiterate role players?
So basically i want people opinions on illiterate role players cause in my opinion it really bugs me. Many people may be not as literate but the post about 2 sentences which is fine, but when you write atleast 4-5 lines and that person hardly replys back one doesn't it bug you?. I myself can be illiterate at times meaning i'll only post about 2 sentences but they still hold enough information needed to continue on the role play. But as i am use to literate role plays i am use to everyone replying wtih about 4 lines or more, so non-literate peoples posts tend to annoy me quite alot i cant explain why it just does and gets me frustrated on what i should post next.
So i am wanting your opinions on this and see if anyone feels the same way as i do when people dont put enough effort into their posts, or maybe you dont mind illiterate role players but i guess we will have to see. Feel free to post your opinion even if its different to everyone elses, Happy discussing! :D.
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Yes, literature people really bugs me because when they make such interesting roleplays, and you know you want to join. Then suddenly, you read the rules and it says "Be literature at all times" and in my mind it be like..That's not fair. There's fewer literature people and non-literature people And I think that's pretty unfair for the people that really wants to join..And the people that do joins, and they have to write like a paragraph.. >.< That's pretty much like me...I see a interesting roleplay and decided to join, then suddenly, I write a one paragraph. And that bugs..I really can't stand literature people.. (Not offense)
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I hate role-plays when they do that to i mean most of my role-plays are literate but i dont make them always be literate the most i would expect from an illiterate role-player would be only a small paragraph as i am not always literate my self. Well i mostly am, but no offense taken. It only bugs me when you know someone can do alot better than the actually are i dont mind lines it gust bugs me a few words role-play. Like when someone writes about 3-4 lines and the other replies with something like
"He looked at her as she looked at him". Some people i role-play with have even wrote shorter posts than this when ive wrote a paragraph and it really annoys me, they could atleast put more effort in. Most role-plays i have been in with you Thrill you write at least 4 lines or more which in my opinion is literate.
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I don't really have a problem with illiterate roleplayers.
Mainly because they're mostly all younger player or people that are new to roleplaying and don't know any better.
Some players might even have a mental condition where it's hard to make even a sentence, like when they have dyslexia.
It's a disappointing when you preset a fellow roleplayer with a paragraph of well thought of roleplay, and they give you a sentence or just a few words. But that's just how they roleplay, and you can choose whether to roleplay with them or not.
If it's new players that are just learning the basics of roleplaying, you can't really blame them.
I would stick around and try to introduce them to a more literate roelplay style, if they want to, of course. c:
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I honestly don't mind illiterate roleplayers. I'm okay with them honestly.
I've roleplayed with someone who made a lot of typos and didn't make much sense, but I was fine as long as I could understand them.
And a friend of mine who uses short posts for roleplay actually I love their style in roleplay, and it makes me like the way she roleplays, but sometimes I dislike long posts. Short posts are a lot better sometimes to me, so I have no issue with illiterate roleplay.
Some people can help the illiteracy, like they are young, new or have problem with their typing or eyes.
Maybe even their fingers, so I don't really judge them.
Illiterate roleplay isn't my issue really, I don't mind it.
BouncyLion is agreed with. c: You could teach them sometimes, ya know?
So, I don't judge. :3 Not saying you are judging, Taylor, though.
That's my opinion, truly.~
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I do dislike illiterate role players that have these as their so called posts. 'Sit sits by him' 'Hisses at him' 'No'. I mean really if you do not want to take the time to type out a good post then why are you on a role play game? But I am perfectly happy with people who just post two or three sentences because I do this too when I can't think of anything. Super literates have really big posts that overwhelm me and most of the time have words I don't understand. I prefer people with small posts but aren't tiny.
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Why is it that alot of people judge someone based on how many sentences they type in a roleplay post? I've seen people get called illiterate all because they post one or two sentences in an RP post. They were called illiterate even if they used proper punctuation, spelling, and sentence structure. How is typing one or two sentences illiterate? How!? Do people even know what illiterate means anymore?!
There are some roleplayers who can't be as "literate" as some other people. There are reasons such as young age, disability, or maybe a language barrier. I've roleplayed with people who weren't too good with English, since it isn't their first language. I had a roleplaying partner who spoke Greek, and English was his second language. His sentence structures were different, since their language is different in structure. I didn't judge him harshly for it. He couldn't help it. He was still learning English. You got to remember that people from around the world play this game. Also, a majority of the players on this game are young kids.
I myself, don't mind these so called "illiterates". The only typing I don't like seeing in a roleplay post is text typing "Y did u steal my m8? He wuz my boyfrend not yurs!" I have to admit that it can get on my nerves.
I don't judge someone based on how many sentences they type. It's not the quantity of words that count. So there are some people who can type out a 4 sentence paragraph in a roleplay post. That's great and all, but not everyone has those skills. I don't like it when people harshly judge other people for their roleplaying skills. It's NOT fair to call someone illiterate based on how many sentences they type. Calling them illiterate can make them lose some confidence. It's better to teach them and show them some better skills instead of bashing them. Those who call roleplayers illiterate all based on how few sentences are typed aren't being very fair at all. You need to give them a chance.
I do dislike illiterate role players that have these as their so called posts. 'Sit sits by him' 'Hisses at him' 'No'. I mean really if you do not want to take the time to type out a good post then why are you on a role play game?
Is there some kind of roleplaying law that prohibits people to roleplay that way? Who are you to tell people how to roleplay? It may not be all fancy with 3 long detailed sentences, but does it really matter? NO ONE should tell people how to type out their roleplay sentences. I was under the impression that this RPG game was a place where people could have a little fun, not type out a roleplay paragraph to impress people. I have a few friends who roleplay by only saying a few words. Does it bother me? No. Am I going to tell them they should post more words? No! It's their choice, not mine. If they want to reply with three words, so be it. If they want to reply with three sentences, I won't stop them. I let them type at their own pace and their own way. Whatever floats their little boat.
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Why is it that alot of people judge someone based on how many sentences they type in a roleplay post? I've seen people get called illiterate all because they post one or two sentences in an RP post. They were called illiterate even if they used proper punctuation, spelling, and sentence structure. How is typing one or two sentences illiterate? How!? Do people even know what illiterate means anymore?!
There are some roleplayers who can't be as "literate" as some other people. There are reasons such as young age, disability, or maybe a language barrier. I've roleplayed with people who weren't too good with English, since it isn't their first language. I had a roleplaying partner who spoke Greek, and English was his second language. His sentence structures were different, since their language is different in structure. I didn't judge him harshly for it. He couldn't help it. He was still learning English. You got to remember that people from around the world play this game. Also, a majority of the players on this game are young kids.
I myself, don't mind these so called "illiterates". The only typing I don't like seeing in a roleplay post is text typing "Y did u steal my m8? He wuz my boyfrend not yurs!" I have to admit that it can get on my nerves.
I don't judge someone based on how many sentences they type. It's not the quantity of words that count. So there are some people who can type out a 4 sentence paragraph in a roleplay post. That's great and all, but not everyone has those skills. I don't like it when people harshly judge other people for their roleplaying skills. It's NOT fair to call someone illiterate based on how many sentences they type. Calling them illiterate can make them lose some confidence. It's better to teach them and show them some better skills instead of bashing them. Those who call roleplayers illiterate all based on how few sentences are typed aren't being very fair at all. You need to give them a chance.
I do dislike illiterate role players that have these as their so called posts. 'Sit sits by him' 'Hisses at him' 'No'. I mean really if you do not want to take the time to type out a good post then why are you on a role play game?
Is there some kind of roleplaying law that prohibits people to roleplay that way? Who are you to tell people how to roleplay? It may not be all fancy with 3 long detailed sentences, but does it really matter? NO ONE should tell people how to type out their roleplay sentences. I was under the impression that this RPG game was a place where people could have a little fun, not type out a roleplay paragraph to impress people. I have a few friends who roleplay by only saying a few words. Does it bother me? No. Am I going to tell them they should post more words? No! It's their choice, not mine. If they want to reply with three words, so be it. If they want to reply with three sentences, I won't stop them. I let them type at their own pace and their own way. Whatever floats their little boat.
I totally agree with you, I always have about 2-3 or more sentences and 2 or 3 lines. I sometimes get called illiterate, and I saw this person's post get called illiterate, is this illiterate?:
He swished his tail back and fourth, "Mhm, good for you." He grumbled. As he laid down slowly ignoring almost everything he was saying, slowly drifting off.
Yeah its not much, but its not illiterate! Don't judge people by how many sentences or lines they post, thats just not fair. In my opinion, this post, is ridiculous, it says "Hey! Lets judge people who write short sentences! Let the judging begin!"
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Seriously, theres no point in doing that.
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I honestly don't understand where the whole POST LENGTH = QUALITY argument stems from.
Sure, you might be capable of dabbling out a 10-paragraph post, but is all the detail contained within it absolutely necessary to further the roleplay? Do I really need to know how your eyes glint in the moonlight, how the wind tussles your pelt and every, single meticulous thought that runs through your mind? No. I simply need to know what your character's doing in relation to mine, nothing more. Detail's great, don't get me wrong-- but chat-based roleplay is entirely the wrong medium for it; it really muddles up the pace.
For example:
Saka bared her teeth and hissed at the lion, her aggression spurred by her tragic past.
There's plenty to reply to. She's hissing, she's aggressive, she's confronting you. She's left the motive for her anger ambiguous, allowing the lion to wonder why she's reacting in such a manner. Heck, she can even tell him afterwards, providing an opportunity for more roleplay!
Saka stood before the lion, eyes vacant as thoughts ran repeatedly through her head. She's never liked lions; one killed her parents during a simple hunting trip many, many years ago. She remembered how his eyes gleamed with malicious fervour, how his jagged teeth ran red with the blood of her mother... She remembered running away, the distant cries of her injured parents echoing forth from the burning forest..
She's just... Thinking. It's a long post, but it's by no means better than the first. It doesn't further the roleplay, nor does it provide anything for the lion to react to; he can't hear her thoughts. To him, she's just... Standing there. It's long, but pointless-- and has also ruined the surprise of her motive behind the aggression. It's certainly not bad, but... It doesn't really serve any purpose.
World of Warcraft has a similar style of roleplay (chat-based), except there you're actually ostracized for unnecessarily long posts; it just stagnates the roleplay and causes things to move at an unbearably slow pace. My roleplays there are rarely longer than a sentence and yet I've never, ever been called illiterate-- or a bad roleplayer.
In terms of FeralHeart, those two/one-line roleplayers are actually better suited to chat roleplay than those who write a multi-paragraph novel. Everyone can roleplay however they'd like, but keep in mind that 'quality, not quantity' applies to roleplay too. If you're bumping your post-length up with unnecessary detail to appear 'literate' to the closed-minded members of the community, don't. You're doing great! :D
TL;DR: Don't be judgmental over post length; a few short sentences is often more effective than a multi-paragraph ramble.
TL;DR: Don't be judgmental over post length.
TL;DR: Don't be judgmental over post length.
It's just my personal opinion! I honestly don't think anyone's a 'bad' roleplayer-- they're either inexperienced (extremely short posts), young, not english, inconsiderate buttwaffles (powerplayers, autohitters etc.) or... Well. Anything! People learn and improve with age- not everyone starts off as a roleplaying god. I do love writing enormous posts with friends, but it's unfair to expect strangers to be at that level-- or even enjoy that format of roleplay. I'd happily roleplay with anyone whose post I can actually read!
/rant off
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I am not being judgemental about people who don't type as much as others, I understand the person behind the screen might have a few problems stopping them from posting paragraphs. I myself sometimes post about 2 sentances or even one if there isn't really much to reply to, but as I stated the only thing that slightly annoys me is when you write a whole paragraph and they reply with a 5 word sentance. I would hate to of come accross as judgemental but I'm just putting out my opinion on people who do this as it does tend to bug me. I see most of you strongly agree and are getting off onto more of the subject of me trying to judge them, but I'm not. Alls I am saying is about a 5 word sentance as a reply to a paragraph and how it slightly bugs me.
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I am not being judgemental about people who don't type as much as others
illiterate at times meaning i'll only post about 2 sentences
But-... You yourself called two sentences illiterate, when it couldn't be further from the truth on a chat-based roleplay! I'm sorry for pointing it out, though! I'm a bit of a nut about roleplay and writing; labeling people as 'illiterate' is nothing but discouraging and demeaning. They should be encouraged to pursue their hobby and improve! :D (/carebear)
A short post in response to a paragraph can be annoying, but there's many reasons why it can happen:
- They're inexperienced, young or not a native english speaker.
- They prefer a succinct, shorter style of roleplay. This isn't being illiterate; a shorter style can be a preference! If they're not really up to the standard you prefer (ie, their posts are too small), politely excuse yourself or, if you haven't interacted with them, toddle elsewhere and look for someone else. Don't call them 'illiterate'. It might take some poking to find someone's your cup of tea; there's no need to roleplay with them if you don't enjoy it!
- You've not given them much to reply to; your paragraph's content might be full of unnecessary description that doesn't engage the other player; they'll have nothing to say. Your character's thoughts, description that doesn't add to the roleplay (eg: Wolfspeakers are fond of describing each muscle's movements to make themselves seem knowledgeable, as opposed to keeping their posts relevant to the situation) etc.
- They've never roleplayed with a paragraph roleplayer before and don't know what to do!
I understand what you mean, though; I do wince when I'm given a one or two word reply in response to my paragraph! It's not really that fun for me, either. :P Even so, when you're randomly roleplaying with strangers, it's a risk you take; you can get the perfect roleplay you desire with friends, as opposed to trying to lather your preferable standards of 'good' roleplay on a stranger! I honestly prefer one to three paragraphs myself, but if someone who prefers to write shorter replies approaches me, I'll try my best to accommodate them for a little while before pluddering onwards to see if there's someone else who has the same preferences as me!
There's many fish in the sea; it's just about finding people you enjoy roleplaying with! If their posts are too short for your enjoyment, just leave them be. :)
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Self proclaimed ''literates'' that think length is everything when it comes to RP are so wrong it's annoying. When I RP I think a lengthy post is about two paragraphs (a paragraph here being FH's text limit). I try not to post more then one paragraph or I think it's on the verge of being a ''TL;DR'' moment.
Honestly if I have to wait for someone to finish posting three paragraphs I get annoyed, it's like they forget we have to wait. I would rather RP with someone that posts about two lines, at least then the RP can move along at a nice pace, no waiting around for someone to explain in GREAT detail about how their tail and ear flicked. I left a pack due to this problem today, I had to wait for three different people to post a massive four paragraphs -each- before I could go myself, it was at least 15 minutes before I went. I think I got about six posts in for the three hours I RP'd with them.
Plus illiterate has nothing to do with how much someone can write, it's more to do with the ability to read and write... And you don't want to be insulting people with disabilities now. I despise how people use that term on this game.
Laziness with posts doesn't bother me much, if they should have followed up with more information I just ask for it. It can be annoying but RPing is meant for fun, it's not meant to be an English lesson.
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What really boils my blood when it comes to this kind of discussion is exactly it's topic. Now, Illiteracy has little to do wit the ammount posted, rather it's content. Now While I agree one should not take ages to describe exactly how one's ear has flickered or tail has wagged I appriciate the deeper detail in scenery, and actions. I feel this makes it clearer and makes the RP more vivid so you could see thigns happening rather than just reading it and knowing.
When RPs claim literacy I hate when it's a group of young, or possibly foreign idividuals who do not understand the english language enough to spell correctly, form decent sentances, or literally are so lazy,a nd uncaring for decent RPing that they do not post but one sentance to a more lengthy response. To me when someone posts 3-4 sentances and another responds with one, it's like shooting them in the foot saying: "Hey, I don't care if you actually put effort into an RP that's not even yours to begin with, I'm gonna give you crap in return"
That friends is rudeness, and it REALLY ROYALLY ticks me off when I see it.
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He swished his tail back and fourth, "Mhm, good for you." He grumbled. As he laid down lowly ignoring almost everything he was saying, slowly drifting off.
Yeah its not much, but its not illiterate!
As far as I'm concerned, that seems pretty literate to me. That's how I often times type in a roleplay with some good roleplay friends. It's not fancy and all, but it's short, simple, easy to understand, and can go with the flow. Why some people consider that kind of roleplaying to be illiterate, I will never understand.
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Well, most of the time, I don't really enjoy if I write a nice good-sized post and get small sentence back, it doesn't give me much to base off of. I like to write a lot to make sure people have something to base of of- and when they do it back it makes me feel better knowing I don't have to guess.
For example, what if your first doing a roleplay, you'd want to describe the setting and what not, right?
The dim light of the sun began invading the entrance to the small cave like formation, lighting up the grass that lay below the overhang that protected the young female wolf from the sunrise. The light began to creep towards the sleeping female, who lay, slightly submerged in the grass that weakly protested her weight. The morning was slowly coming, and as the female began to stir- the sunlight began to shine into her eyes, making her wince slightly and roll over with a small groan. As she blinked her weary eyes open- she let a yawn escape from her mouth, and she rolled over as she realized she wouldn't be able to go back to sleep now that she was awake. The rather tall canine winced a little at the sunlight- and squinted to allow her eyes to readjust to the sunlight that invaded even the back of the overhang. As she began to get used to it, she walked out of her new-found home, crouching a little due to the fact the overhang was slightly short. Nakira remembered running about near this formation, prancing in the grass and the flowers, and rolling and wiggling about as she relished in puppyhood memories, before she collapsed under the comfort of the rock. A nice home to live in, a new territory, all these excited the female, mostly due to the fact she had lost her old home to a pack of wolves who wanted to claim it for their own.
It gives the person much to base off of, like they could put them waking up, have some detail, then they could even venture off, making their post longer until they find my character, then they could post their reaction and maybe their introduction to my character. c: Then it continues on.
I also think literate means something like:
He swished his tail back and fourth, "Mhm, good for you." He grumbled. As he laid down lowly ignoring almost everything he was saying, slowly drifting off.
is nice and very literate, its very good. c: I wouldn't mind a post like that.
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Honestly, they bug me a bit too, just the lack of care, but literacy isn't personality, and even if they can be a little annoying at times, I do have a few illiterate friends. (They're never on the forums, don't worry. xD) Although, I tend not to roleplay with them for obvious reasons, and when/if they request of me to join their roleplay or whatever they have, I must politely decline in the means of me being "busy".
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If you ask me literacy does not matter of how long your posts are. In my mind, I'm pretty sure literacy consists of people having the right spelling, punctuation and capitalization. Let me post some samples.
"The fae sat down and wondered what itd be like to be a human "i relly do wonder wot happens as a humen" she hummed this qestion had ben in her mind lately foar a while"
Now, I know most people on here don't spell that horribly, but anyway. Yes, they did a long post but it seems they were too worried about the quantity that they didn't notice at all about, well, their actual grammar and literacy skills!
Here is another sample:
"The female wolf sat down, and wondered if she could become human, like those werewolves around her."
It may be one sentence, but it's got literacy and grammar! Also, if people were to step in and go calling people illiterate just because their posts are short, I'd just stand on the RPers side. Also, if you people do get called names or illiterate, just either block the person or ignore them! There is no point of fighting over how somebody roleplays, because, honestly, that is quite pathetic if you ask me. (No offense.) Because, to sum it up, once upon a time none of us knew how to even spell "car" for example, so don't go judging people for what they have not learnt yet! The only reason I don't RP often with "illiterate" people, is because they are hard to understand, but I still do try to at times! :3 And as Hotdogsrule had said, "literacy isn't personality". I know plenty of people who lack the grammar and literacy skills people expect them to have, and they have a better personality than most of the people who judge them! But, overall, they will learn some skills on the way if people try to teach them.
Huehuehue.
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Stop abusing the word illiterate and literate. Most of the people in the game are somewhat literate! If they would be literate, they would not even be able to understand what you post, nor write back in at least partially-decent grammar!
First of all I don't mind anyone that has awful grammar, yet is perfectly understandable! C'mon the difference is smaller than low and high German!
If they have a good reason for it, good for them, more reason to help them improve, maybe even learn some good English in a fun way! Unless it is a person with his mother tongue is English, has no disorder and writes: leik dis, al dA time5.
But that's that.
Anyway I highly disagree with the current naming of roleplays, literate, semi-lit and illiterate. Seriously it should rather be:
Bunny paced-fast paced-medium paced-slow paced-turtle paced
See? Far better :)
I generally rp anything, I do prefer those lovely fast paced rp's, they are the ones I started with, now I am stuck with a rp that demands at least 3 paragraph per rp post. You know at what time we finish a fight, hunt, a simple conversation? In two hours! I don't have that much time, I rather hang out with those 'illiterates' people love to pick on.
But to be honest...I rp anything If I post a 1 1/3 of a paragraph and receive back one sentence, well...I Adapt and rp in their style. It is my disorder, I adapt without noticing I even adapted to their rp style. So I ask most of you evil, evil, evil self proclaimed literate roleplayers that pick on other wee members to stop it, It is not nice and think about it! What if someone would complain about your style or roleplaying, offending you and stuff?
That's that, I am a tolerant person, but I do get hussy when I find hypocriticy when people that do equally bad roleplay post harass other 'bad' posters, when there is a demand you must post a certain amount the first person doesn't reach, even after telling so.
But for now I mus say we need more actions, this way short rp's can get more lively and you can experiment with actions and emotions ON your char and not in a silly text block you have to wait for nine minutes.
I will stick with everything, I love all kinds of rp's but the fast-paced one will always have a special place in my heart, I live a fast paced life in rl too, so I feel most comfortable with this <3
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If you ask me literacy does not matter of how long your posts are. In my mind, I'm pretty sure literacy consists of people having the right spelling, punctuation and capitalization.
Stop abusing the word illiterate and literate. Most of the people in the game are somewhat literate! If they would be literate, they would not even be able to understand what you post, nor write back in at least partially-decent grammar!
First of all I don't mind anyone that has awful grammar, yet is perfectly understandable! C'mon the difference is smaller than low and high German!
If they have a good reason for it, good for them, more reason to help them improve, maybe even learn some good English in a fun way! Unless it is a person with his mother tongue is English, has no disorder and writes: leik dis, al dA time5.
But that's that.
Anyway I highly disagree with the current naming of roleplays, literate, semi-lit and illiterate. Seriously it should rather be:
Bunny paced-fast paced-medium paced-slow paced-turtle paced
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I couldn't agree more with these posts. It seems like people forget what illiteracy really means on this game. If someone was "illterate" they wouldn't even be playing this game, since it requires typing. I don't mind roleplaying with someone who doesn't use proper punctuations. As long as I can understand what they are telling me, I'm cool with it.
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Post length does not define literacy. Just because someone doesn't type an entire paragraph in each post does not make them illiterate. If they can spell well and have a fairly good understanding of grammar, they are not illiterate.
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Lesser experienced members (or what some would call 'illiterates') don't really bother me, as long as I don't get involved with them. Only then will I grow annoyed. Most of the time, I merely sit idly by and keep an eye on them in-case they might break a rule or two. Other than that, they're just innocent kiddies seeking a good time.
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Lesser experienced members (or what some would call 'illiterates') don't really bother me, as long as I don't get involved with them. Only then will I grow annoyed. Most of the time, I merely sit idly by and keep an eye on them in-case they might break a rule or two. Other than that, they're just innocent kiddies seeking a good time.
I don't really think it's fair to shun them away like that, or assume that they will break any game rules. People who aren't as experinced in roleplay (or "illiterate" as most would say) are NOT always "kiddies"! Some may have a disability, or English is not their first/best language to speak. I once roleplayed with someone who couldn't speak very good English, because he was Greek. He was called "illiterate" by some people. He wasn't a kid either, he was my age. I also roleplayed with someone who was Czech, and they had a hard time with English too sometimes.
Who says that these "illiterates" are necesarrily going to break any rules? It's a good thing you are keeping watch for rule breakers out in the game, kudos to you for that. But assuming that some "illiterate" people are more likely going to break the rules more than some other roleplayers is really unfair. That, to me, sounds like profiling/stereotyping. I've roleplayed with people who weren't the best at typing, but they played pretty well and did no powerplaying/godmodding or rule breaking whatsoever. The only ones that do bother me are the powerplayers/godmodders and rule breakers. That's it!
Whenever I see someone shunning someone away because their roleplay experience isn't all that great, it just makes me think of the pompus, self-proclaimed professional roleplayers that blew me off rudely and mocked me because I misspelled a word or two in my roleplay post. I HATE being reminded!
But if you don't like mingling with someone less experienced than you, that's your choice. I just think you could teach them a thing or two about improving their RP skills, instead of giving them the cold shoulder.
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Lesser experienced members (or what some would call 'illiterates') don't really bother me, as long as I don't get involved with them. Only then will I grow annoyed. Most of the time, I merely sit idly by and keep an eye on them in-case they might break a rule or two. Other than that, they're just innocent kiddies seeking a good time.
I don't really think it's fair to shun them away like that, or assume that they will break any game rules. People who aren't as experinced in roleplay (or "illiterate" as most would say) are NOT always "kiddies"! Some may have a disability, or English is not their first/best language to speak. I once roleplayed with someone who couldn't speak very good English, because he was Greek. He was called "illiterate" by some people. He wasn't a kid either, he was my age. I also roleplayed with someone who was Czech, and they had a hard time with English too sometimes.
Who says that these "illiterates" are necesarrily going to break any rules? It's a good thing you are keeping watch for rule breakers out in the game, kudos to you for that. But assuming that some "illiterate" people are more likely going to break the rules more than some other roleplayers is really unfair. That, to me, sounds like profiling/stereotyping. I've roleplayed with people who weren't the best at typing, but they played pretty well and did no powerplaying/godmodding or rule breaking whatsoever. The only ones that do bother me are the powerplayers/godmodders and rule breakers. That's it!
Whenever I see someone shunning someone away because their roleplay experience isn't all that great, it just makes me think of the pompus, self-proclaimed professional roleplayers that blew me off rudely and mocked me because I misspelled a word or two in my roleplay post. I HATE being reminded!
But if you don't like mingling with someone less experienced than you, that's your choice. I just think you could teach them a thing or two about improving their RP skills, instead of giving them the cold shoulder.
Oh no m'lady, you seem to have read me a bit wrongly. I suppose that would be my fault considering the fact I did not get thoroughly in detail. My apologies for that. I have, in fact, taught some lesser experienced members a thing or two in the past. I do not hate/dislike them. Not at all. What I mean is normally when there are some individuals who struggle, or fail to understand, the english language, in my years of FeralHeart there has most of the time been a troll or two who is either lingering around them or becomes attracted into messing with them. Why when I see illiterates, I get the urge to linger in the background just in case. Plus, like you've stated yourself, there are certain players who will bully, or pick, on players who are of a different language. Another reason why I lurk around, to make sure nothing rash stirs up. I am strongly against bullying/abuse etc so I give you my word that when I posted, I meant no harm at all.
When I say that I will grow annoyed when I get involved is I'm from Germany, so sometimes trying to decipher what they're trying to say can be a hassle for me at times. Thus, I will grow confused and not know what they are saying or trying to say to me. Though I do not show my annoyance, as I am not that crude.
For the 'calling them kiddies' bit, I call everyone a kiddie. It's similar as to how everyone around here calls each other a floof, I call everyone a kiddie from time to time. It wasn't meant to be used for calling someone young, but if you or anyone else is insulted by that, then I will gladly ease off and use the term 'floof' instead.
Again, my previous post wasn't used to be viewed as rash and if it was, then all fault burdens on my shoulders and I give my sincerest apologies.
Though, for the sake of this thread so it doesn't get locked my a MOD/Admin in case they view it turning into an argument thread, I'd appreciate it if you'd PM me if you are to respond to this. I respect you for correcting me on things and I'll keep that in mind before blindly posting like that again.
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Well.. when you put it that way....
There really is no argument going on here, Vespian. I just simply misunderstood you're point of view, so I must appologize as well. I just wanted to say a few things that I thought needed to be said, since I do often times roleplay with people of lesser experience. I have seen to many people bully others for silly little spelling and grammar mistakes, and have the nerve to lable them as "illiterate".
And I do applaude you for helping mentor people who could use some guidance when it comes to being better roleplayers. I think it would be better for people to take the time to show leser expereinced members some roleplaying tips. I will PM you in a second here to talk more.
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I, personally, believe illiterates could try harder, but wait, let me speak what my definition of illiterate means to me. Just because they have short posts doesn't mean they are illiterate. Even if they struggle with a post but try their best I'm fine with that! When I think of illiterates, I think of godmodders, powerplayers, and autohitters. They make me soo mad! Mention of short posts, posts such as 'eats' and 'rips open throat' really gets to me. When this happens I might make a much more lighter hit occur, but if they suddenly put 'kills no miss' or 'eats', that's when I tell them that it won't affect my character at all. If anybody replies, I might be a bit late, considering I'm more of a gamer, and don't check the fourms that often.
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Instead of using the term 'literate' for an advanced roleplayer I suggest people say advanced. In my opinion, this is an 'illiterate': *walks over to the dear smiles and swishes tail, constantly moving is tail while the dears eat* - That's an exact quote from a roleplayer I've happened upon in Bonfire Island. I'd consider this semi/advanced: 'The gentle lioness pawed her cub's head, extending her tongue to give it a proper bath.' (Also a quote.) The people in-game consider people as literate that use good grammar and words that many can't/do not understand. i.e: 'The fae brushed her pendulum across the Terra, luminaries gaze off into the horizon. Her metallic frame glinted in the blazing sunlight, the foliage filtered the sunlight casting an eerie glow upon her flank.' I believe that would be considered as the feral-heart term `literate`.
Feel free to disagree.
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I, personally, believe illiterates could try harder, but wait, let me speak what my definition of illiterate means to me. Just because they have short posts doesn't mean they are illiterate. Even if they struggle with a post but try their best I'm fine with that! When I think of illiterates, I think of godmodders, powerplayers, and autohitters. They make me soo mad! Mention of short posts, posts such as 'eats' and 'rips open throat' really gets to me. When this happens I might make a much more lighter hit occur, but if they suddenly put 'kills no miss' or 'eats', that's when I tell them that it won't affect my character at all. If anybody replies, I might be a bit late, considering I'm more of a gamer, and don't check the fourms that often.
I'm not sure how I really feel about that definition of illiterate. When I think illiterate, I think of the literal definition, which is A person who is unable to read or write. Even if a person does powerplay, it does not mean that they can not read/write.
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I'm not sure how I really feel about that definition of illiterate. When I think illiterate, I think of the literal definition, which is A person who is unable to read or write. Even if a person does powerplay, it does not mean that they can not read/write.
Thought people might feel uneasy. I understand that, but, I don't think people who can't read or write should be considered illiterate. If you feel that way, I give you all my respect, but usually people who can't read or write are young or have mental disabilities, and I feel calling them illiterate is unfair, but yes, you are correct. The reason I feel it unfair for people who are young or have mental disabilities is because I'm not fond of illiterates. I don't mind when I come into their roleplay expectantly, or if they come into mine expectantly, but when they butt into my roleplay when I'm having a in game fight, that just ticks me off. Sorry if this seems a argument, because we both have different thoughts on the word illiterate, but, anyways, I do understand you. People who cannot read or write I'll consider illiterates as well.
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I find it kind of annoying sometimes...like if you write this huge paragraph, and they reply with barely a sentence...Most of the time it's fine though, I do most Roleplay types, it just depends on who it is and what roleplay type they use. (Example the *'s or -'s from the paragraph ones etc.) It just depends I guess.