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You've seen 'em. We all have. I'm talking about those children who like to argue with you about wolves, using completly made up logic. Usually saying things like: "Save the wolves!" One once told me that North American grey wolves are endangered, when in fact they are listed as least concern, the same catagory as humans. Anyone ever got into a argument with one these people?
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^ exactly why I'm not the biggest fan of wolves. You see, I've seen one of these people in AnimalJam before. Everyone said "But all animals rule" while she said "nope, wolves rule".
She even said this: "I love wolves so much my parents are getting me a pet wolf today!"
Seriously? now I'm not trying to be harsh, but all animals are good. Wolves just became wolves in my eyes because how many fans they have. I'm not against anyone who loves them though, they are good animals really, but I'm not like WOLFCRAZY and I'm just a animal lover. :P
*sigh* I completely understand you after this I just said above.
No offense to those who love wolves. :/ It's just those who make up things and try to annoy me, not you. ^^
*cough and hides in shadows*
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I never came across people like this out in the community of Feral Heart, but I know they're out there. I have seen these "wolfaboos" out on other websites, stating things like "Wolves are the best!" "Wolves rule!" "Wolves are endangered. We must do something to save them all!" There's nothing wrong with being a wolf fan, but some just take it too far.
On other websites, I've seen wolfaboos post such comments like "I luv all wolfs! Whoever duz not luv wolfs is a hater and should DIE!" Really, that's what they said. Wolves are nice and all, but Im not all that crazy about them. They are a nice animal, and I just have respect for them. And it's true that grey wolves are not endangered. Don't the wolfaboos know that there are other species of wolves out in the world besides the grey wolf and the timber wolf. There are endangered species of wolves out there in the world, such as the Ethiopian wolf, the Indian wolf, the red wolf, the arctic wolf, and so on.
The craziest wolfaboo arguements I've ever seen was on YouTube. I once came across a video that depicted people hunting wolves in Russia (legally). There were so many hateful, inhuman comments made by these "wolfaboos" that I just could't believe human beings would say such things to other human beings. I won't go into detail about what they said... you can check it out for yourself, but BEWARE! It ain't pretty, man e__e
Speaking of this talk of wolfaboos, there have been times where people in this community have accused me of being a "foxtard" someone who is crazy about foxes and loves only foxes. Let me make it clear that it's NOT true! Sure, I love foxes and I like to roleplay as foxes, but I not crazy about them. I don't think they are the best animal in the world. There really is no such thing as a "best" animal in the world. I like other animals besides foxes; such as cats, small dogs, various species of birds, mice, hamsters, rabbits, bobcats, and much much more. Also, I don't get upset when people hunt foxes (as long as it's done legally). Hunting foxes is a common sport, so it doesn't really bother me. Not only that, I would never own a fox as a pet. As much as I love foxes, I could never own one since they have so many special needs. The only thing I can do is appreciate them and admire them in their natural habitat.
So that's all I have to say for now.
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Now, I happen to adore wolves. But grey/timber wolves as said above are at the least of concern. I'm more worried about Red Wolves and Maned wolves (I'm unsure about them being endangered, but I heard that they were a rare so...).
I mean, I want to get some wolf breeds back up to a good population. But defiantly not grey wolves, I don't get upset or angry when I see taxidermy of That breed, but maybe a little frustrated when I see red or minded wolves being hunted etc. because of my opinion on their population.
I would, never, ever, ever think of having a wolf as a pet! they're naturally vicious, and fighting among pack members is common, especially when the supposed wolf wants to be "alpha". They would also be incredibly hard to look after and control.
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But I have never encountered a obsessed wolfaboo. Just nice wolfaboos.
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Most wolfaboos are just children who saw wolves and thought they looked awesome. But mostly the North American ones. The small Asian desert wolves, who indeed are one of the oldest wolves as well as being where domestic dogs came from, can just get lost. I have indeed seen several of these people in Feral Heart. But, all other annoying people are attracted to me... So maybe they are too.
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There do seem to be a fairly high amount of antagonistic wolfaboos in this game, which I guess makes a kind of sense (still not as bad as any given wolf video on YouTube). I just take it as another case of a really cool thing with a kinda crappy fandom. I have nothing against wolves; they're beautiful animals, and it's easy to see why so many people (especially teenagers) would identify with a romanticized version of them, what with the wild, golden eyes and the howling at the moon and being a fierce, noble creature that don't need no rules. And on a certain level that's fine, the problem is that wolfaboos tend to not know where the line between idealism and reality is, and a bunch of kids decide that they have a special bond with wolfkind by way of liking them a whole lot, and get the idea that they can go striding down the street with a loyal pet wolf at their side and look really cool. Which, y'know, is bad for several obvious reasons.
There are a couple things about this that really rustle my jimmies, but the worst problem is that there's just no way to debate with them even on completely friendly levels. All the ones I've encountered have formed such a tightly closed shield of rationalization that they're completely immune to alternate opinions. Either you love wolves to the point of misanthropy and think they're literally the best animals in the world that need to be saved and protected and given dominion over the earth (how I wish that was an exaggeration), or you're an evil greedy wolf-hater who probably shoots puppies (wolf puppies!), and mutters maliciously to yourself in Russian as you pilot your areal wolf shooting machine to take out Amaroq.
Oh, and of course I'm not calling all wolf fans wolfaboos. Just the ones immune to logic.
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Well....I am NOT a Wolf Aboo but i am a wolf lover. Im not like them at all... Most wolf aboo's are stuipd and stuff....I study wolves and other animals so i gave out REAL facts....I will never ever BELIVE people are getting a pet wolf...Unless a hybird cause my dad owned one. ^^
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Wolf dog hybrids can be dangerous, too. Just because they were bred with domestic dog in them doesn't make them completely harmless. They still have their wild, primative instincts in them. Take a look at this video for example...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij09gDOx8ck (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij09gDOx8ck)
And that's why I just stick to having domesticated animals as pets. A cat and a dog suit me just fine. :3
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People should, yes, be more concerned about the security of endangered or almost extinct animals more than the grey wolf (canis lupus), which, as said before, is part of the Least Concern list. However, grey wolves shouldn't be hunted illegally (poaching). Wolves should not be hunted on protected land (i.e. Yellowstone National Park), or when it is not allowed (normally around spring, summer, or autumn. Hunting season for wolves is around winter, and hunters are only allowed to kill 5 wolves according to law).
Many people still need to learn that wolves are NOT the only animal in the world that "need protection". There are animals more important like bobcats, tigers, some foxes, etc. There are types of wolves that DO need protection. For example, as said before, the Ethiopian wolf (canis simensis).
I just want to add this other thing in here real quick because I saw somebody above that said something about the maned and red wolf. I don't want to sound rude at all, but the maned and red wolf aren't actually "wolves". The red wolf (canis lupus rufus) was found to be more related to the coyote than the wolf, and, well, the maned wolf (chrysocyon brachyurus), was never a wolf.
The maned wolf is close relatives with the fox, and it is the largest canid in South America. They get their name from the blackish-grayish mane on their backs (obviously), and they look like they are walking on "stilts" due to their long legs.
Whew, I don't normally type that much. I'm done now. I need to rest my hand. ^^
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I have encountered lots of these 'wolfaboos.' I once joined a so-called gray wolf RP, only to find out that it was a maned wolf RP. I said that I was leaving, because maned wolves aren't actually wolves. The leader's response.
Me: I came here to join a gray wolf RP, not a maned wolf RP. Besides, maned wolves aren't even wolves!
Leader Wolf: Well I know everything about wolves. The maned wolves live in Canada and the Dakotas, and they don't eat meat. Isn't that cool? That I know EVERYTHING about maned wolves? You're so wrong, dude.
Me: Sorry, but they actually live in South America and eat meat.
Leader Wolf's Son: HE NOES EVERYTHING.
Me: -Disconnects-
I mean really? It's obvious that this person is lying. My friend was listening nearby, and we started cracking up. They need to get ahold of themselves, those wolfaboos.
Another story. About wolfaboos.
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I think its safe to say that if I see any child or small teenager saying that they are getting a pet wolf and have no idea that a wolf/dog breed is nothing like a regular dog than I would feel very sorry for the animal and not the owners. The reason for this is because I too am getting a pet wolf, but I AM being trained by it from my family members. And its a part of us to have a animal that we ourselves are to never part with till it dies, and we even breed them professionally. We don't train it like a dog, we train it like a wolf, people would tell a dog no, we don't tell it no, we growl at the pup so it understands not because we are to hurt it, but to use its language. A wolf itself is similar to a dog if trained like it, but it will not be tamed nearly as well unless you use its language it already knows by nature itself.
And even thinking that a wolf/dog mix is even close to a dog is silly, some can be trained that well, yes i'll give them that, but they are also put down a lot. Given away, and even if they say its a "mix" It might not be and you have the pure blood animal in your house. Wolves are a beautiful creature, not to be confused with a pet, or just a regular dog at all, but deserve the utmost respect by not having one. Even though I'm being trained to have one, and it takes a year or two to finish it all up, I am still not going to get one until I live close to one of the family members whose had wolves for years. The fact that these people don't even know the animals well, yet they love them so much is very well....silly, why would you not know something about the animals you love if you care for them so much? Really guys, come on, their a wild animal with a many breeds, many color differentiations and even eating habits are slightly different depending on the bio and time of year. Grey wolves actually go fishing for salmon during the seasons they head upriver, well now, not alot of people know that those wolves can eat fish sometimes do they? Nope, not a single bit of knowledge is shown about what they think they know so much about.
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I've never met anyone like that in game, but I know of wolfaboos. You just have to remember they are only kids that really love an animal. I'm sure when they're older they will learn that other exciting animals exist.
I love wolves, I think they're smart the way they're animals but they are able to sort out pack hierarchy, but lions and meerkats other animals manage that too. But I also love foxes, weasels, cats and anything and lives in the sea.
It's nice that they want to stand up for their favourite animal and defend something, it just a shame they don't want to research and educate their selves about the animal.
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Oh gosh...wolfaboos.
These guys are why I don't like wolves and don't have a single wolf character. I mean, I don't mind the real animal, but I don't like seeing all these cliche wolf characters all over the internet that are all exactly the same. I have no problem if you like wolves and have wolf characters, I just personally don't like them very much.
But wolfaboos, oh my gosh. This one time I was roleplay fighting a wolf character with a hyena character of mine. This random sparkle-wolf approaches us and the conversation goes something along the lines of:
Random Wolf: A hyena wouldn't last a minute against a wolf in real life.
Nyota Kali (Me): Umm...a hyena would probably win. They are stronger pound for pound.))
Random Wolf: No, wolves are 5 times as big as hyenas. I know all about wolves.
Nyota Kali: Maybe, but you clearly don't know all about hyenas. Spotted hyenas and grey wolves are about the same size))
Random Wolf: No!!! Wolves are much stronger than stupid hyenas!!! I KNOW ALL ABOUT WOLVES!!!
Then I just blocked her and continued on with the roleplay.
I've had plently of other encounters with wolfaboos on Feral Heart, this one was just probably the most extreme.
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@Blue
Yep, they do eat fish, and they do eat some types of fruit and nuts. Sort of like grizzlies, I must say. Except most of the time, grizzlies prefer to eat grass, berries, and nuts, whilst wolves, only eat them a small percentage of the time, either while prey isn't available or if they need to eat. I've seen wolves eat grass, just like dogs, because it is a "filler" to help vomit up the food they do not need.
But Blue, don't you require a permit for where you live? Unless, of course, your in a state that allows it, or you live out of the U.S.
As a mammalogist I have done much research on wolves, and many other animals, and, in fact, wolves are never tame animals. No wild or domestic animal is exactly "tame", but they are owned. I've seen reports on people getting bitten and stomped by many animals that they thought were tame, including feral dogs and cats (i.e. lions, tigers, dingos, wolves, foxes), because they were not treated the correct way.
So, I highly hope you are professional, but whatever rocks your boat is fine. I am not trying to interfere with you or your family's tradition, I am just stating some of my research. Good luck and hopefully you do well. C:
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I love wolves.
But I'm not a Wolfaboo.
I saw some pretty Iberian Wolves yesterday, and in my honest opinion they are more beautiful than the American or Timber or every wolf ones.
Sadly they're like 300 in Portugal and about 2,000 in Iberian Peninsula. (See how they are almost really being extinct?)
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Okay, I might love foxes but not to a horrid extent. I have never encountered a foxtard or wolfaboo {I feel so funny typing that.} but I know they're there. All animals should be treated equally, deadly or harmless. Wolves or butterflies. Now now, wolves, fox & other wild canine may be my favorites, all animals are great. However, as stated before me I'm sure, some species are endangered, so some of them may have a point.
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*sigh* Wolfaboos...well, "aboos" of anything are never a good thing.
What's especially annoying/saddening about wolfaboos is that by spouting misinformation and promoting this romanticized "Noble Savage/Furry Martyr" image of the wolf, they are doing much more harm to the species they worship love than good.
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I love wolves.
But I'm not a Wolfaboo.
I saw some pretty Iberian Wolves yesterday, and in my honest opinion they are more beautiful than the American or Timber or every wolf ones.
Sadly they're like 300 in Portugal and about 2,000 in Iberian Peninsula. (See how they are almost really being extinct?)
I just looked up images of iberian wolves. I agree that they are really pretty. Lucky you for encountering such a rare species. They deserve much more support. c:
Wolfaboos can get rather annoying, especially when they act as if wolves are above any other kind of animal. Pet wolves are a definate no. It isn't right to just take a wild creature out of its natural habitat and expect them to be okay with it. At any point instincts can have it attack and turn on the human keeping it. The owner will get hurt or possible killed and the animal put down. No one wins.
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Iberian wolves are a natural beauty, and are one of my favorite types of wolf. I only have seen pictures of 'em, so lucky you, Kiji!
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I prefer Ethiopian wolves, they need more help then most canines and I think they might even be the most endangered out of all the wolves.
I don't believe in keeping any wild canine as a pet, it's bonkers. Wolves will eventually want to be alpha anyway wouldn't they? I can see any wolf or wolf dog owner getting killed by their pet. The only wild canine I agree with is a fennec fox, what damage is that going to do any one lol, I think by now they have been domesticated enough for anyone to have one.
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I prefer Ethiopian wolves, they need more help then most canines and I think they might even be the most endangered out of all the wolves.
Ethiopian wolves are technically not a subspecies of wolf. Recent DNA tests have shown that they are actually their own separate species of canine, kind of like how raccoon dogs and maned wolves are their own separate species of canine. All the same, they are beautiful animals and definitely need more support.
My personal favorite wolf breed/subspecies is the Indian wolf (the kinds of wolves who raised Mowgli in Kipling's The Jungle Book.)
(http://cdn2.arkive.org/media/CA/CA4AB0BA-DF11-4EA8-83D6-160E74B2C54E/Presentation.Large/Indian-wolf.jpg)
I love how expressive their faces are, and their huge ears are so cute! And the funny part is that you look at this skinny, adorable little mutt of a wolf, and you would have no idea that these little guys are notorious for eating human children.
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These people you call "wolf-a-boos" really aren't THAT much of a threat. So, they love wolves. I'm absolutely positive a good number of them go on to learn much about wolves. Anyways, love fuels knowledge, doesn't it? Surely it must, I know, you know, we all know. Maybe these same people go on to do what you do, and themselves grow to became your level, maybe even higher than your level. Who knows. Rest assure, they will mature and new "wolf-a-boos" will take on their place and so forth. Then there will be people like you who can guide them and help em' out with their expanding knowledge on wolves. I respect your passion Blue, though I do not agree with owning undomesticated animals that ought to be raised with their own kind. They have strong instincts still. I have to admit though if it wasn't for our out-standing animal lovers we wouldn't have our cuddly pets of today. In the end, I'll go my way and you'll go yours. I know you love and respect these animals, that's all I care about.
@TheCuteMonster True, there has been many attacks on owners by their so called "domesticated", yet wild, animal. Really though all animals should be considered unpredictable, anyways that's how I see things. Yes, that means humans too. It's different for animals that have actually become dependent on us. Domesticated dogs, cats, hamsters, etc. They can't really survive by them-selves, though cats are really dependent, hmm. You know I always thing of circuses when these topics come up, everyone loves watching their show animals. May it be tigers, lions, or elephants. These animals suffer but we enjoy it? Anyways... Fennec foxes, exotic pets! I really do adore them but weasels/ferrets/minks are more of my thing. I even adore geese. Hey, have you seen the domesticated Russian foxes? They actually carry some of the similar behaviors of dog. Panting, waging their tail, and what not. These look to be near fully domesticated, amazing isn't it. You've got to admit though the conditions for domesticating animals are horrible. Sorry for getting off topic a bit. (More lovely related animals, Bat-Eared Foxes and African Wild Dogs, I use to be obsessed with these when I was just about as high as a dining chair)
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I've always thought the wolfaboos could be the people that grow up and work for wolf charities and reintroduce wolves into the wild in areas they are struggling.
When I was young I was adamant I was going to work for some nature program and help save british wild life, and now I do nothing like that. Had I been as passionate as they are I could be cuddling badger cubs right now.
I always thought Ethiopian wolves looked more like the maned wolf which is also in a league of it's own lol, still, they beat timbers in terms of cuteness.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f173/SpiffyDragon13/My%20Zoo/ethiopian-wolf.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/SpiffyDragon13/media/My%20Zoo/ethiopian-wolf.jpg.html)
Them big ears and slender faces with the long legs <3
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Don't get me wrong, wolves are awesome, however I will never consider myself a wolfaboo. It's not just wolves that people want as a pet. Other animals such as Tigers, Lions, even large snakes. I would never want to have a wild animal as a pet. As much as I love them, it's not good for you or the animal.
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I would never want to have a wild animal as a pet. As much as I love them, it's not good for you or the animal.
I agree entirely.
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Speaking of this talk of wolfaboos, there have been times where people in this community have accused me of being a "foxtard" someone who is crazy about foxes and loves only foxes. Let me make it clear that it's NOT true! Sure, I love foxes and I like to roleplay as foxes, but I not crazy about them. I don't think they are the best animal in the world. There really is no such thing as a "best" animal in the world. I like other animals besides foxes; such as cats, small dogs, various species of birds, mice, hamsters, rabbits, bobcats, and much much more. Also, I don't get upset when people hunt foxes (as long as it's done legally). Hunting foxes is a common sport, so it doesn't really bother me. Not only that, I would never own a fox as a pet. As much as I love foxes, I could never own one since they have so many special needs. The only thing I can do is appreciate them and admire them in their natural habitat.
So that's all I have to say for now.
They are actually taming silver foxes as a project in Siberia. There is now a domestic breed of fox known as the Siberian fox, which are pretty much dogs that are cute like foxes. Want a fox but don't because of needs? Get a Siberian fox. Pretty much just like a dog. I'll link ya to the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoB0pdhxfZs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoB0pdhxfZs) ~Vio
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Wolf dog hybrids can be dangerous, too. Just because they were bred with domestic dog in them doesn't make them completely harmless. They still have their wild, primative instincts in them. Take a look at this video for example...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij09gDOx8ck (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij09gDOx8ck)
And that's why I just stick to having domesticated animals as pets. A cat and a dog suit me just fine. :3
THIS TV SHOW. Well... Yeah that too. Like this = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVgfCs08x2s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVgfCs08x2s) Yeah yeah I know its not 'wolf' but it gives out facts and proves WILD ANIMAL HYBRIDS are NOT GOOD PETS!
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Hey, speaking of wolfaboos...the "OMG WHY DO PEOPLE HATE WOLVES!?1!" thread has been brought back from the dead.
(http://fail.brm.sk/facepalm/facepalm.jpg)
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I know why some people hate them. Wolf-aboo faults. I love wolves but not so much anymore cayse of them.
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It does not bother me as much.
[They care about wolves and keeping what happened in the 20th Century (Read 'Never Cry Wolf', Great Book)
From happening again
Its when they drag politics into it that peeves me, like saying this person is a heartless maniac because they don't support them yata yata yata
Thankfully, I almost never see this because I don't normally go to SP.
Logical discussion, No rants.
We have enough Drama Already People.
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Yeah.... But Wolf-aboo's are the ones that annoy the hunters. Atleast some of them stop or tempt to stop snaring. (Being in a snare doesnt feel good. e.e I stepped in one while walking in the woods...... It hurts.)