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Title: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Lady_Alizarin on September 08, 2013, 06:01:54 pm
This is something that recently crossed my mind, and it has to do with some expereinces I've had during random roleplays. I will list some example stories to kinda explain what I mean:

Story 1:

I was roleplaying as Kopper the red fox out in Flourite Plains. She was skipping along, looking for some of her friends. Well, she encounters another fox near some clan cats. Being social with other foxes, Kopper decided to go over to the fox and say hello. She starts off with her roleplay line, -The vixen trotted up to the other red fox, while wagging her tail right behind her in a greeting sign, "Hey there, stranger," she chirped. "I don't believe I've met you out in this neck of the woods before." After she said that, the stranger fox gets all hostile and starts growling and "hissing" at her? The fox then said, "Get out of here you stinking kit killer! This is -insert clan name- territory, and foxes like you aren't welcome here!" So at this point, I'm all like ".....What?" I take a peek inside the character bio of this fox, and it turns out that it was a fox raised in a clan and now believes it's a cat and not a fox. So I continued on by saying...
Kopper Fox: -She took a few steps back- "But... I'm not a kit killer, I swear," she said, trying to reason with the angry fox. "In fact, I have a few clan friends of my own."
Clan Fox:"LIAR! All foxes are killers that can't be trusted!"
Kopper Fox: "But... but.. you're a fox too," she pointed out.
Clan Fox: "No I'm not! I'm a cat, born and raised in a clan. I'm a loyal warrior that fights for his clan and protects them from killers like you." he spat.
Kopper Fox: "Even if you were raised by cats and lived like one, you're still a fox nonetheless."
Clan Fox: Dude, he doesn't know he's really a fox. Did you even look at my bio.))
Kopper Fox: Yes I did. I already read it.))
Clan Fox: Then you should know that he hates other foxes and will kill them))
Kopper Fox: I know that, but my character doesn't know that yet. I'm playing the part where she's just now finding out, give me some time to play it out here.))
Clan Fox: Okay fine -_-))


Story 2:

I was once up in Sky's Rim roleplaying as Melina the diamond manticore. There were a few dragons and gryphons flying around, and then there were these two "human" characters. They even had the word "human" in their character names. One characteristic of Melina is that she classifies humans as prey. Since she is a manticore, whenever she sees something that appears human, she is going to look at it as potential prey. I looked at their bios and saw that they were shapeshifting creatures. After reading that, I type out a roleplay line that went something like this, "-The manticore paced around the glowing crystal when something caught her eye. She looked down below and saw what looked like two humans sitting on one of the lower floating islands. She got near the ledge for a better view, and looked at them with hungry eyes.-" Well then they blurt out OOC, "We are not humans, we are shapeshifters!" "FAIL!" And then I was all like, "I know that, but my character doesn't know that yet." Then one of them was all like, "Yeah whatever... "
First of all, I'm playing as a character that doesn't know about these "humans" ability to shapeshift. Melina is the type of beast that acts on instinct rather than reasoning when it comes to hunting. I told these two OOC "Well if you "shapeshift" into something else, Melina will no longer see you as prey." So one of them magically turns into a cheetah and runs off while the other "human", or in this case "shapeshifter" stays behind to distract Melina. When I say the roleplay line "-Melina became confused when she saw one of the humans trasform into a cheetah. She wasn't too sure if these humans were warlocks, witches, or something else.-" And so the human shapeshifter says, "We are not humans, we are shapeshifters. You must be a really stupid manticore if you don't know the difference." I wanted to tell them the logic in the situation, but then the game crashed.

Just because my character doesn't know something about your character doesn't automatically make them stupid. They just don't know yet! That's the thing about roleplaying, characters find out about whoever they encounter through roleplay, whether it takes them 5 minutes to find out, or 2 days! If we were all to know exactly what your character was like, it would take away some of the flow of the story. What if my character never encountered a character like yours before? Do you expect them to automatically know what to do or say to you? How was my character supposed to know that yours was actually a shapeshifter and not a human? I KNEW it all along, but she didn't!

What's your opinion on this? Have you ever seen something like this before while roleplaying? Has something like this ever happened to you?
 
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Morqque on September 08, 2013, 06:12:39 pm
That has happened to me a LOT of times before.
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Vask on September 08, 2013, 06:16:27 pm
-Facedesk- YES! I'll be roleplaying and...I just. I can't even...
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Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: WhiteLightHeart on September 08, 2013, 06:20:36 pm
I know exactly how you feel on this one, Lady, and it's a great point.

Too many times roleplayers will put things in their bio that they expect you to read (which is courtesy when engaging in roleplay with someone), but assume that your character itself, which can only see what is right in front of them (in other words, your character can't somehow click the other character and see their past and thoughts and innermost secrets), will immediately know about this.

It's really a case of not thinking through the situation, and mixing OOC and in-character knowledge. It's as if you had gone to read a book, read the bios of two separate characters in the prologue who had never met before, then gone into the book and those two characters will suddenly have read those bios and know what the bios said in their very first meeting.

So, it really was uncalled-for for those guys to turn around and act all "Oh, they don't know how to read bios!" toward you, when really you were the one giving the storyline a bit of courtesy by not assuming your character knows everything before they even meet that fox, or the two shapeshifters.

Silly floofballs.
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: darkknight on September 08, 2013, 06:26:15 pm
M'lady, in my opinion, this makes me sad. What you described is called metagaming. It's basically using out of character information into the in character. I can relate to this by an encounter I had before. I was on my hyena, Heinrich, when I meet a blind wolf. We exchanged conversation and my hyena was curious of why the wolf was looking else where whenever he moved about.

[To the point of our posts]
Heinrich: "Ey, there, why are you looking that way? Something interesting you, what's wrong?"
Stranger: "I'm blind, sir. I can't see."
Heinrich acknowledges she is blind, but the later forgets that she was when he asks her to follow him.
Stranger: [please read my bio, im blind, remember?]
Heinrich: [No, no, I know you're blind, don't tell me that. My character does not know.

The reason it makes me sad is because first, alot of people do this. Another is that is not a good way to role-play at all. If anything, it takes away the sense of discovering something about a person's character later and feeling achieved in having done so. How can your character be mysterious or interesting if we cannot play out the scene as is and make the realization or discovery? I like not knowing what is going on and being able to fix the problem or find something out. Having the answer just handed to me is a bit discouraging.
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: BlueKinTsukiko on September 09, 2013, 02:19:31 am
My reaction when people think that my character is going to know everything about their character when they just meet.
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Oh, and lady~ Your profile pic reminds me of something, and idk what, help Dx Im so confuzzled by who she is, and I could've sworn I saw her. Idk where else, but dangit! Its driving me nuts cause its on the tip of my tongue every time...please help x-x
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Warrior4ever on September 09, 2013, 02:52:01 am
I haven't had the pleasure of experiencing a case as extreme as these before me, but I've noticed this on a smaller scale. Many times a new member (or on a rare occasion, myself) will join in a RolePlay I am either participating in or watching, and seemingly immediately know everyone's name. One of my encounters went as follows, and happened while I was gathering members for my group in Flourite;

<Random Cat> "Hey there Lynx!" she mewed.
<Me(named Lynx)> "Greetings miss," the tom purred, blinking lazily and nodding to the female, "I had not realized my name was so well known."
<Random Cat> Whatever... -.-))
<Me>But... chu don't know his name yet, do you? ;3;
<Random Cat> Duh, it's in your name tag :P))
<Me> has Lost Conenction.

'Twas a short experience, but it was actually quite funny. As you saw above I normally just work around the other person's All-Knowing comment, and it usually produces funny reactions. Sadly after I lost Connection the other member was offline, but I still thought about that encounter for a while, and every time it made me smile or laugh x3

Down to the point now, I really have noticed this mistake being made by many users, but I like to usually work around the small ones. Bigger mistakes would call for a re-type, but luckily I've not had any for a long while. ;)
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Ex0rcist on September 09, 2013, 03:11:50 am
Arr, I have to agree with the point you are making, Lady. It bothers me so to have been told to read someone's bio and to use it accordingly during roleplay. Pfft, I'm not going to do that. The whole point of roleplaying is basically getting to know one's character to progress further. And Warrior, I went through the exact same thing. xD Here is a time I've experienced this sort of thing:

So I was roleplaying in a well-developed pack on my character, Talon, with this other person who was a bit exemplary with their roleplaying. However, it seemed she lacked the forethought that her character would automatically know mine's name just by reading the name tag. She also expected my character to know her name as well...

Stranger: The femme gazed upright towards the gleaming stars with awe, her pinstriped banner wrapped tightly around her rump. It seemed forever since she last took her gaze off the dancing balls of light, finally lowering her charcoal cranium gently.

Talon: The hessian approached the speckled dame whose sleek bodice silhouetted from the dim starlight. His thick cranium tilted slightly as he reclined on his haunches with a creeking motion, his neck pivoting along the axis as a sign of mere content. Parting his slim jaws to speak, he locked an icy gaze upon the interlope with slight concern. "Who are you...?"

Stranger: Just look at my name tag. No need to ask who she is)

Talon: Oh, but I do. And it is not me asking who she is, it is Talon. I know who she is, but he doesn't. ))

Stranger: After hearing the brute's raspy voice, the dame jumped with slight surprise until she gained control over who he was. With a slight chuckle, she said, "Ah, Talon. You need not ask who I am. I am but a curious rogue wandering these parts. I have no intentions to search for trouble."

Stranger: Yeah, alright. Made no sense but I'm down. )

Talon: Excuse me, lass... but I don't recall your character ever meeting mine. How on earth would she know his name? ))

Stranger: Your name tag... Like I said before, come on dude )

Talon: I'm sorry.. but I believe we are done here. ))

It irritated me so... and I couldn't deal with it any longer. Yar, I believe I made a bit of my point as well. I don't like when this happens, but sadly it happens quite often. I don't suppose there is anything that can be done.
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Lady_Alizarin on September 09, 2013, 04:24:59 am
Oh, and lady~ Your profile pic reminds me of something, and idk what, help Dx Im so confuzzled by who she is, and I could've sworn I saw her. Idk where else, but dangit! Its driving me nuts cause its on the tip of my tongue every time...please help x-x

Her name is Holli Would, and she is from a movie called "Cool World".



You all share some good opinions on this disscussion.

The whole thing about "Oh I know your name because of your name tag," is just plain ridiculous. Do some people forget what roleplaying is all about? Roleplaying is pretty much story-telling. When characters in a story meet each other, they get aquainted with each other and gradually learn more about each other over time. They don't encounter each other and automatically know one another's names. Would something like that happen out in the real world? Not really.
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Wizardmymom on September 09, 2013, 11:38:47 am
Yea, thinks like this annoy me >:L
I made this mistake yesterday on my Glaceon (I'minapokemonfaseshutup>:L) Druid.
I'm in another RP with my Umbreon with the other character, so I accidentally said their name.
I quickly fixed this, but when characters say "Hi there Druid, how is Silent?" (Silent is totally not me charrie's random crush thing e.o)
I just wanna slap them, icy wind them, and all that Pokemon nonsense.
And when they answer (We met before, remember?) I look back at the chat, and see NO posts by this person until a minute ago. Erm, wut?
I just... I wanna....
Scream.
>:L

I think the worst example I can think of is Pokemon and their Trainers.
When a Pokemon is caught, apparently, the trainer can AUTOMATICALLY tell what it's name is. NO.
A trainer names it Pokemon whatever it wants, and the Pokemon has to go with it. Not the other way around.
-Rant Overish-
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Tearless on September 09, 2013, 06:25:10 pm
Gah, I hate it when that happens... though I've more often had the reverse problem, with others knowing way more about my characters than they should. It's so often really hard to effectively RP into a pride when starting as a loner, because as soon as the players know that my character is harmless, suddenly every lion in the pride trusts him without question, even when he's given them no reason to. I've literally had Newt in mid-post, hiding around the edge of a pride's territory trying to tell if it's safe to approach them, and inevitably, no matter how deliberately suspicious I make my actions, one lioness will always run right up to the hidden-from-view, unfamiliar lion encroaching on her territory whom she knows nothing about (not to harp on realism with talking animals, but, y'know, rogue lions have been known to kill cubs, even if we both know Newton wouldn't) and says "Hi there! Want to join the pride? I'm sure [leader] won't mind!" I don't know where I should even go from there. I usually just have whatever character I'm playing become alarmed/unsettled/suspicious and hope the actual leader is less blindly trusting, but even then the tension is still pretty thoroughly killed and I end up sitting there in a pride full of unnervingly welcoming strangers not sure what to do with myself.

Honestly at this point, I wouldn't mind running into the 'get out of our territory or we'll make you into a rug!' type of pride once just for a change.

My other major pet peeve is characters who mysteriously change personality completely if they want an interaction to go a certain way, or just characters whose personalities don't match their bios in general. If your lioness is supposed to be shy and mistrustful of strangers, don't have her run up to me and strike up a conversation if we've never met. If your bio says 'cheerful, friendly, looks on the bright side' then why has your character been sitting  off to one side of the group scowling at his reflection in a puddle and not talking to anyone for the last three passive-aggressively angsty posts?
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Tigerheart08 on September 09, 2013, 07:45:31 pm
SO glad you made this thread because it has happened so many times! That's the whole fun part, your char gets to find out stuff even if you already know.
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Compass on September 09, 2013, 07:59:22 pm
Bhut but, mah fox knows everything therefore can read nametags, knowing what their name is. ;3; On other notes, however, when that happens to me I get really mad... It's only funny when it's someone else Dx
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: MadMoai on September 09, 2013, 10:54:11 pm
Oh gosh, this has happened to me before, but I can't think of any specific examples at the moment.

I find this irritating due to the lack of separation between in-character and out-of-character. I don't really know how to word this correctly, but characters don't know things until they experience them. Just because Reithe (my main FH character) starts a conversation with a random lion, he won't automatically know that said lion might secretly be a pyromaniac, or that said lion has a stash of candy hidden at home, because Reithe hasn't been told this yet, even if I in the real world read it in the lion's bio. The reverse is true as well; any random lion who has never met Reithe before won't know he can breathe fire until he actually does so, since the lion has no logical reason to believe that any wolf would be able to breathe fire.

Like if I sign up for a roleplay where you have to fill out character forms and post them, I can read all of the other people's forms who have signed up and keep everything in mind, but that doesn't mean my character automatically has access to all of that information pertaining to the other members of the roleplay. It's like saying Reithe can walk up to aforementioned lion and already know his name even though he's never seen the lion before, just because I read his name in the bio.

Sorry if that doesn't make sense. '^' I guess it's all about separation of knowledge in-character and out-of-character.

(I also feel like mentioning dramatic irony [the audience knows something the character does not], which can contribute to suspense, but I don't really know if that's on topic. |D )
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Smilodoncat on September 09, 2013, 11:07:33 pm
I've had the reverse happen to me.

Other people will read my bio, and then pretend they know everything about me in roleplay. It is exceptionally annoying when I'm on original species, and their character automatically knows everything about my character's species.
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Jango_Fett on September 12, 2013, 11:52:07 pm
I  wish some one would Rp with me on Sky's rim ;-;
Anyway, yes this has happened to me, but sparingly, and not very often.
But i Absolutely HATE IT When they go all OOC and say stuff like, 'DUDE! READ MY NAME TAG IDIOT! YOU STUPID OR WHAT?!!?' and other rude things, seriously, -.- its illiterate, and pretty dumb to say.
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Tearless on September 13, 2013, 01:10:08 am
Y'know, this thread could be particularly relevent for the... -pulls out megaphone- FeralHeart Official RP Day on September 28th

But seriously, it'll be interesting to see how that goes for this very reason...
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Lady_Alizarin on September 13, 2013, 04:05:43 am
Y'know, this thread could be particularly relevent for the... -pulls out megaphone- FeralHeart Official RP Day on September 28th

But seriously, it'll be interesting to see how that goes for this very reason...

 Omg, you're right Tearless. This could give people an idea on what roleplay is really about and how it's supposed to be done. Forget what the character nametag says, let your character figure it out for themselves. Don't ask questions, just roleplay! :D
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: nubeees on September 13, 2013, 05:54:36 am
I hate this. It happens all the time! >.<
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Gargantor on September 13, 2013, 09:16:21 am
Actually this isnt just the case for FH, but everywhere else.
Mostly I meet problems where my character thinks something, so they dont say it out loud but I am still sharing it with the other user, and then their character suddenly knows everything they thought and starts RPing according to that. My lesson: keep your characters' thoughts to themselves...

Yes, I met the problem where characters know each other's names all of a sudden and know everything about each other. I was once snapped at by one person who said that my character shouldnt have sat next to them to warm them because their character doesnt like that tight contact. I told them that my character doesnt know that, then they came with the advice that I should read bios before I rp with someone...... Seriously... where is the fun if everyone knows everything... This is what gives a part of the excitement in the whole story...
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Jango_Fett on September 13, 2013, 03:45:27 pm
Y'know, this thread could be particularly relevent for the... -pulls out megaphone- FeralHeart Official RP Day on September 28th

But seriously, it'll be interesting to see how that goes for this very reason...

:O! WE HAVE AN RP DAY!?!?!?!?!!?!?
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: meeeea on September 13, 2013, 06:34:47 pm
Y'know, this thread could be particularly relevent for the... -pulls out megaphone- FeralHeart Official RP Day on September 28th

But seriously, it'll be interesting to see how that goes for this very reason...

:O! WE HAVE AN RP DAY!?!?!?!?!!?!?


Shh, stay on topic.

However, what Lady said is 100% true. People have always turned on me in an aggressive stance because it said "Rogue" in my name. They somehow managed to figure out my rogueness by what? Me passing through lookin' for a friend?
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Nymphadora on September 14, 2013, 05:59:39 am
I've never come across anything like this before o.o ~ Perhaps I'm just one of those lucky people xD

I'd love to come across someone like this though, it'd make for an interesting conversation... Perhaps the user could learn a few roleplaying tips about how to introduce characters. xD
T'is a shame people can get it endlessly and it can bug them, but I'm sure with a little reasoning, they'll see the light. c:


~Nym
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Jango_Fett on September 16, 2013, 11:59:36 pm
Yep
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Fallenleaf on September 19, 2013, 10:01:58 pm
Although it rarely happens to me, it still enrages me to no point.
The thing is, I always RP with my friends, so all our characters know each others by now.

There is something that never happened to me, but could've happened to others. For example, relatives that had never met each others before. (Here is an example with two of my characters that are from the O'Sullivan family.)

Sibrwd: the ginger-hued tom walked up to the ebony-blue feline, purring. "Hey there, Soulfrost!" He greeted her as he sat down by her side.
Soulfrost: Dude, we never met before.))
Sibrwd: But we're cousins.))
Soulfrost: That doesn't mean anything. Soulfrost never met anyone from her family, until only recently.))
Sibwrd: But someone could've told me sbout you.))
Soulfrost: Well, judging by your bio, you despise Clan cats. Soul only knows Clan cats. So... -le poof-))

Yes. It includes some facts such as this. If the only place you could've heard about this relative is from people you would never have talked to, don't even try pretending to know my character. Another example:

Baby dragon: I'm hungry ~she walked around~
Heulog: The russet-hued hybrid snorted in annoyance. "Stop whining." She snapped, her tail lashing from side to side.
Baby dragon: You can't tell me what to do, hybrid.

THAT is something I simply can't accept. The part where it said I was a hybrid wasn't dialogue. This was a true RP. Didn't last long.
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Skrillexx on September 20, 2013, 05:35:55 pm
This happened before and I was like, just kill me now.
So, I was playing on my pack wolf, then encountered a killer wolf.. I'll just tell you what happened.

Me: The male strolled across the soft grass, scanning his eyes across the plains as the sun reflected off of his eyes, attempting to ignore it.
Jake m killer: 'what ar you doing all alone out here loner? or shood i say, daemon? -he smirked evily- (Im serious, he said that.)
Me: He whipped his head over to the black wolf, baring his teeth, "I don't care whoever you are, leave me alone, I'm busy and I have a pack meeting to attend to later." He growled, turning away to the different direction.
Jake m killer: -leaps at him and pins him down- shut up daemon, your being f*cking stupid acting like you don't know my naim.
Me: [Excuse me but if you haven't noticed, Daemon is much, much larger than your character. Also, I know your name, but Daemon doesn't.]
Jake m killer: (stfu and carry on with the f*cking rp)
Me: [Sorry but this conversation is over.]

At that point he was yelling at me while I walked away with my shades on and eventually he blocked me and I typed: LIKE A BOSS. Then I went back to my pack.
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Jango_Fett on September 21, 2013, 02:19:37 am
Heheh, thats powerplaying for you.
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: BlueKinTsukiko on September 25, 2013, 02:32:53 am
I know the feelz of the noobish role play...That one time in the flourite plains....and the sentence will forever go on. However there are some good rp'ers out there whom I do respect just...no xD I don't know everyone's name nor do I want to. As for them, same rules, just ask me my name in rp and we're good from there, out of rp, sure I don't care than. I don't know how many people dont get that hint already.
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Lopunny on September 26, 2013, 04:26:06 am
Ah, I encountered this many times before, though not as much recently ^^' for people who are new and are still getting the hang of roleplay, I completely understand and kindly explain to them, though don't ignore their post. It's just like when you write something and someone crumpled up your hard work from their viewpoint sometimes if only pointed out and not played along with. Usually when something like that happens, I ask Oocly real quick, "Do you want these two to have met before? Because then they'd be more accustomed name wise. <3" or something like that you know? <3 The key is to always be patient and respectful to the person in my view, because they are still learning ^^ and I'm sure that we might have to wing it like that for RP day. Or maybe they'll catch on if you play along like saying, "You know my name? It might be either that I'm famous or have an invisible nametag for you to know that." Just have fun with it and not be mocking ^^
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Fallenleaf on September 26, 2013, 08:59:43 pm


 
Well here's something that happened earlier today:
Person: The brute began to walk towards Cherry, his green eyes gleaming in the bright sun. His gaze was constant and he refused to blink. This unfamiliar fae could be a threat.
Me:(Cherry) Hey, um, how does your character know my name...if I'm unfamiliar? ))
Person: It was in your character's nametag, therefore I know your name. OF course.))
Me: That's really not how it works. I'd much rather introduce Cherry?...))
Person: It's much easier to read a name then rp the whole thing out...))
Me: I don't care what's easier, I just want to have a fun roleplay.))
Person: Please don't start an argument with me.))
Me: I don't intend to. I was just asking politely...))
Person: Well now this will be awkward...so goodbye.))
Me: Wow.
I don't think he meant it as his character knew your character's name. If not said as dialogue, it is ok to type in the name. Because it's such a pain when you make up a cute description of how the person looks, and if the person doesn't realize it is with him/her the other is trying to engage a RP with, it can easiky become annoying.

So,
Typing in the name of someone you don't know in dialogue: NO
Typing the name so the person may recognize himself/herself, out of dialogue: YES
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Deal.With.It on September 26, 2013, 10:21:44 pm
I agree, or when someone flips out about not knowing what their character's rank is, like if you speak disrespectfully to a royal or someone and they flip out and you're like. Yea, but my charrie doesn't know you ;n;
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Jango_Fett on September 27, 2013, 12:43:02 am
I agree, or when someone flips out about not knowing what their character's rank is, like if you speak disrespectfully to a royal or someone and they flip out and you're like. Yea, but my charrie doesn't know you ;n;


Exaclty.
 
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Lopunny on September 27, 2013, 01:27:59 am


 
Well here's something that happened earlier today:
Person: The brute began to walk towards Cherry, his green eyes gleaming in the bright sun. His gaze was constant and he refused to blink. This unfamiliar fae could be a threat.
Me:(Cherry) Hey, um, how does your character know my name...if I'm unfamiliar? ))
Person: It was in your character's nametag, therefore I know your name. OF course.))
Me: That's really not how it works. I'd much rather introduce Cherry?...))
Person: It's much easier to read a name then rp the whole thing out...))
Me: I don't care what's easier, I just want to have a fun roleplay.))
Person: Please don't start an argument with me.))
Me: I don't intend to. I was just asking politely...))
Person: Well now this will be awkward...so goodbye.))
Me: Wow.
I don't think he meant it as his character knew your character's name. If not said as dialogue, it is ok to type in the name. Because it's such a pain when you make up a cute description of how the person looks, and if the person doesn't realize it is with him/her the other is trying to engage a RP with, it can easiky become annoying.

So,
Typing in the name of someone you don't know in dialogue: NO
Typing the name so the person may recognize himself/herself, out of dialogue: YES


Deary, I think he might of meant at first that he was just approaching her, as he put down 'the unfamiliar fae' at the end. xD I just was stalking your post and saw that and I was like "wait a minute, maybe he meant something different. owo" I even do that, just not in dialogue, as my character wouldn't know the other's name of course ^^
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Loveme4ever on September 27, 2013, 01:54:40 am
That also seems to happen when someone types something like, 'She looked at the ground in despair and thought about the previous events, about her mother and father and how she was raised. I=Annoyed by the sadness, she said, "So, how has life in Bonifire been?" All of a sudden, the other RPer instantly knows that my character is sad however, MY CHARACTER NEVER VERBALLY SAID IT. So they respond something like, :I know u r sad cuz ur mom died. dunt be sad." And Im like, STAP!
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Lady_Alizarin on September 27, 2013, 02:12:12 am


 
Well here's something that happened earlier today:
Person: The brute began to walk towards Cherry, his green eyes gleaming in the bright sun. His gaze was constant and he refused to blink. This unfamiliar fae could be a threat.
Me:(Cherry) Hey, um, how does your character know my name...if I'm unfamiliar? ))
Person: It was in your character's nametag, therefore I know your name. OF course.))
Me: That's really not how it works. I'd much rather introduce Cherry?...))
Person: It's much easier to read a name then rp the whole thing out...))
Me: I don't care what's easier, I just want to have a fun roleplay.))
Person: Please don't start an argument with me.))
Me: I don't intend to. I was just asking politely...))
Person: Well now this will be awkward...so goodbye.))
Me: Wow.
I don't think he meant it as his character knew your character's name. If not said as dialogue, it is ok to type in the name. Because it's such a pain when you make up a cute description of how the person looks, and if the person doesn't realize it is with him/her the other is trying to engage a RP with, it can easiky become annoying.

So,
Typing in the name of someone you don't know in dialogue: NO
Typing the name so the person may recognize himself/herself, out of dialogue: YES


My thoughts exactly. That's how most dialouge is written in storys, novels, plays, etc. I always thought including a character's name in a roleplay action sentence helps others know who they are speaking of. Of course, just because someone mentions another character's name in their RP line, it doesn't necesarrily mean that they know who they are, they are just trying to be specific on who they are refering to.... if that makes any sense.
I don't think that person really had any rude intentions toward you, Sabrina. I think it was just a little misunderstanding there. A little roleplay misunderstanding. Either that, or they aren't too experienced.  
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: FlyingGrass on June 09, 2018, 10:50:19 pm
It annoys me too whenever characters know what their pilots know, because then there's no chance for the character to introduce themselves in roleplay.
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: turtlies on June 10, 2018, 12:32:21 am
Oof this is one of my biggest RP pet peeves! Or when someone asks a question OOC when it could easily be asked IC and not disrupt the flow of the RP. I like to have a bit of suspense with my characters, and it's more fun to roleplay characters interacting and learning more about each other's personalities, even if you already know it yourself.
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Kahbloom on June 11, 2018, 01:36:10 am
Ugh. Yessss.
This really gets under my skin, lol. It doesn't really happen a ton to me anymore, but it happens enough that it can be a little annoying!

Characters =/= the people role-playing them. Role-play should be separate from OOC in my opinion. I like to play out the story! That's the whole "fun" part about role-playing to me.
Title: Re: I Know That, But My Character Doesn't Know Yet
Post by: Jango_Fett on June 11, 2018, 07:00:07 pm
Oh hell I last posted in here when I was a child. My skin is leaving my body and my soul is being sucked into a vacuum.

I've encountered this a lot on other roleplay servers, but I've noticed that with older players it doesn't happen as often. When there's a more 'serious' tone to everything, people are more aware of how their characters behave/what the character knows.

For example, I got to partake in a 40k roleplay where a higher ranking official had an illegitimate child some odd years ago, and it was later revealed that my character was that -Removed by moderator-. It was kept secret even OOCly to make the surprise more... Impactful.

Another example, in this Pathfinder/DND group I'm in, we had a scare where our Big Bad was gonna possess a small child because of his parents. We went above and beyond to protect it before birth, and assumed that when he mentioned a host from that family, he meant the baby.
It made sense for our characters to not think ahead, so when we literally gave him the host he wanted[A cousin who was summoned to help guard the bab], none of us knew until it was too late.