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And you all know them very well, the famous
RP Samples.
Now, obviously, we group leaders have seen over-the-top ones, the lame ones, and a few perfect ones.
But since many people don't make groups, I want to talk about being ACCEPTED.
You give your best, or maybe you are tired or bored and only gave a bit.
You aren't accepted because you spelled 'spectacular' wrong?
IFJDFHYUGDINVDIBGVDIFHGBDFITBSDHITH
Why?!
WHY!?!?
It's just one word that MANY people get wrong!
The fact that so many people rage at you or decline you because you made a simple typo you didn't notice, fine.
But, if you do the *spectacular thing, they still say no because you missed it in your original post.
Again, suhgdskbvdiygbdkhbhdth
My favorite, though, is when they ask for just a piece.
A sample, a true sample.
So you give them one.
What do you get in return?
"No, it's too short and not detailed enough. Also, you used wolfspeak."
I used 'optics' because I hate repeating words more then twice per post, and eyes sounds too simple to me.
It just hurts.
My.
Head.
Any of you shared this pain?
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That has never happened to me before but it has happened to my friend. I normally ask for Roleplay samples but not for length or detail but just correct spelling, grammar and punctuation! You could give one sentence with all that in it and I'd be fine. Though I'd never go strict enough to not accept someone for spelling one word wrong. I mean we are all human and humans make mistakes~ That's just. Wow. I can't even begin to understand how people can be like that.
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I accept anyone that does talk lik deis into my roleplay. I can't stand people who require god awfully long samples that are spelled perfectly.
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I get the point about typos, as I have really crappy spelling myself and FH doesn't have spell check. I know someone who is very literate when we roleplay over Deviantart, more so than most "FH literates", yet in Feral Heart she would be labeled as an illt. Simply because she's not the best speller, and Feral Heart has no spell check.
However on the topic of wolfspeak, no I would not accept someone's roleplay sample if they used "Optics", unless they happened to be referring to a branch of physics. Optics used in place of eyes is a wolfspeak word plain and simple.
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All my groups require a sample, and we're plenty generous on typos. (Or I am at least, sometimes my co-leaders nitpick and are harsh about punctuation... which, really, as long as you can use a period and quotation marks I'm fine with you.) At the very least we REQUIRE two or three sentences per post and to know the difference between your/you're or there/their/they're, which is NOT unreasonable.
"No, it's too short and not detailed enough. Also, you used wolfspeak."
I used 'optics' because I hate repeating words more then twice per post, and eyes sounds too simple to me.
Wolfspeak is something that I have never allowed in any of my roleplays. A lot of my roleplays aren't for wolves. Wolfspeak does not belong in an RP about cheetahs, or lions, or dragons, or waheela, for pete's sake. (If I'm in someone else's RP and there's wolfspeak, then that's THEIR decision. I personally don't like to see it, but I am tolerant of it.)
If you don't like repeating words then you should read a book or pick up a thesaurus to expand your vocabulary. But all in all, there's nothing wrong with repeating a word twice; though I understand that everyone has their own pet peeves. Can I suggest, for your example, instead of "optics" or repeating "eyes" you could swap out "eyes" for "gaze" or "glance"?
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Most of my friends in FH use 'optics', but I do see all yall's points.
Wolfspeak is something that I have never allowed in any of my roleplays. A lot of my roleplays aren't for wolves. Wolfspeak does not belong in an RP about cheetahs, or lions, or dragons, or waheela, for pete's sake.
Now, I must disagree here. e.o
Wolfspeak is not just for wolves, it IS a way of RPing, just not a very correct one. XD
I have a semi-wolfspeaking friend, but only because they use Optics and I think they use Banner when they're leader or of high rank.
And we normally RP mythical beings. XD
Anyways, I must say that most of you bring god points (not regarding above).
People who 'tak liek dis r ok' as long as they can RP well enough and we can understand them. XD
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Wolfspeak is something that I have never allowed in any of my roleplays. A lot of my roleplays aren't for wolves. Wolfspeak does not belong in an RP about cheetahs, or lions, or dragons, or waheela, for pete's sake.
I apologize, I have to disagree on that. Wolf speak originates from WolfQuest. Users there had to use 'creative' words because the lexicon chat (I think it's called that) only accepts certain words. Around 6,000+ words. However, they don't accept some everyday words like he, she, girl, boy, six, because of mate beggars (not sure why though). Somehow, Wolfspeak migrated over to FeralHeart and is now used for 'extremely literate' role plays.
The point is that Wolfspeak isn't called Wolfspeak because only wolves use it. It's called that because of WolfQuest. It's like 'WolfQuestspeak' but, they call it 'Wolfspeak' for short. Wolfspeak is simply just another word for fancy talk.
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Star, you sir, are mistaken. Wolfspeak was about during the furcadia days before wolf quest came out. I remember it. That was before it became 'Popular'.
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Star, you sir, are mistaken. Wolfspeak was about during the furcadia days before wolf quest came out. I remember it. That was before it became 'Popular'.
Ah, thanks for correcting me there xD But even so, there is defiantly Wolfspeak in WQ as well, even if it didn't originate form there. But the point is that Wolfspeak wasn't made just for wolves, it's made because fancy talk o3o
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I've never been rejected because of a misspelled word, and I certainly wouldn't reject someone just because of one simple mistake. Making a mistake is human, no? I don't understand why some people have OCD when it comes to accepting members.
About Wolfspeak, I could care less. I've joined in multiple Wolfspeak roleplays and enjoyed it, it was just their way of roleplaying and it was comfortable for them. I have nothing against it, actually.
? Rukia ?
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This escalated quickly.
And, I was never turned down when I sent in a RolePlay Sample.
Ever. O.o
Lucky I guess?
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VERY lucky. XD
Some people are VERY strict, and it's kinda annoying.
I can understand a heave-load of rules (as long as you don't break 5 every time you post), but RP samples are a pain.
We DON'T know your rules!
Are your rules at least 1 continue? Is it try to spell correctly? Is it WHAT?!
We don't freaking know, all we want is a good time.
Some people take RP's too seriously.
Best example I can think of is some big WC RP I joined a bit ago.
Aging rules were strict.
RP rules are breathing down your neck.
OOC rules you're afraid to break.
T'was chaos.
THEN, I had to change my charrie's name due to someone else with the same prefix, Cloud. HFDSIBFSDIUGYRH
Anywhoo, this if off topic.
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Well no, because even when I get accepted I end up with semi-lit in best case. .~. Luckily that doesn't always happen, but yeah, once I shared pain because I made RP sample in first person. Leader thought it'd be too confusing not to talk in third person. Sigh. It's just sad how they pay attention for every detail, at least let the person join, if you don't like him kick him/her out. Well that's just my opinion.
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I've never really had a problem with RP samples, since I don't join roleplays that require RP samples. But I have heard how much of a pain it can be when you gave a sample where you did your best, but still got rejected because you mispelled one word. Have these super strict roleplay recruiters taking the samples forget that we are all human and make mistakes? I'm sure they've made plenty of mistakes in their roleplay post, yet they have the tendency to point out every single little typo or punctuation mistake someone makes. It seems like they do take that kind of stuff way too seriously. Get a grip, man. NO ONE IS PERFECT! Not even YOU!
As for the whole getting rejected because of Wolfspeak... there are many people who don't like it. It may be because they don't find it terminologically correct, since many of the words in Wolfspeak aren't correct as far as grammar goes. Some may find it too confusing and hard to understand/read. You never know. I have never really been a fan of Wolfspeak, since it doesn't really make any logical sense at all. And for those who say that it came from WolfQuest because of the chat filter, that isn't correct either. When I was playing WolfQuest, I never saw anyone use wolfspeak. I never saw anyone use "brute" "fae" "banner" "cranium" and so on. A few times they said "orb" for eyes, but that's it. Who knows, maybe wolfspeak words were banned from the chat log. I had to leave WolfQuest because I really couldn't roleplay with such a filtered chat. ::)
Getting back on subject now, I try to avoid roleplays that require a strict and "perfect" roleplay sample. No matter what you do, they are never really satisfied with what you posted. It's like they are waiting for some perfect roleplay champion to come walking up to them with a flawless sample that would make the angels weep with joy.... Let's face it, it's NEVER going to happen!
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All I look for in Roleplay samples are literacy, punctuation, and capitalization. I accept Wolfspeak, and any level of literacy xD.
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Yeah, I guess I was lucky.
I don't require Rp Samples for a few Reasons.
1. It can take up a bit of Chat-Box Space. Yes I know you can just move it, but then I'm trying to Advertise and listen to the Samples at the same time.
2. Acceptance. If I accept them and Other people who are in the RolePlay don't like the way they RolePlay, I.E. Calling them, 'Ill-Literate'(Which, is not true to its Definition at all), or calling on them for Wolfspeak. It gets testy after a while.
3. They give you a GOOD Sample, but then, when they really start it, its a full-on Revolution, of Power-Player city.
These are just some scenarios.
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There was once a really picky user that joined an RP of mine. Someone was RPing using the "-"'s like this:
-The tired pup clumsily flopped into a pile of soft grass. He rolled over and let the sunlight warm his pelt as he began to drift into unconsciousness.-
I didn't mind at all, as I used to RP like this too, but one user, dear god.. >.> She literally flipped out and said that the other wolf was and "illiterate n00b" that didn't know how to RP. I told her to calm down and that it was just her way of RPing. She yelled at both of us and started raging on about how you should RP. I eventually said that I didn't force her to join and that she should leave if she didn't like it. She literally said "Fine! God! I need to go find a literate wolf pack that actually knows how to RP >:("
-sigh- Good riddance.
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I've always had problems with RP samples...I make one typo, Like instead of "walking", I said "talking" by misake. And I wasn't accepted into the group.
I don't get why leaders/and or members have to be so bossy, Not just that. They even say that "You should make you're character darker." "You should change you're characters name to something more realistic", And etc.
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There was once a really picky user that joined an RP of mine. Someone was RPing using the "-"'s like this:
-The tired pup clumsily flopped into a pile of soft grass. He rolled over and let the sunlight warm his pelt as he began to drift into unconsciousness.-
I didn't mind at all, as I used to RP like this too, but one user, dear god.. >.> She literally flipped out and said that the other wolf was and "illiterate n00b" that didn't know how to RP. I told her to calm down and that it was just her way of RPing. She yelled at both of us and started raging on about how you should RP. I eventually said that I didn't force her to join and that she should leave if she didn't like it. She literally said "Fine! God! I need to go find a literate wolf pack that actually knows how to RP >:("
-sigh- Good riddance.
That sounds like an experience I had dealt with once...
One time I was roleplaying with my friends on our Warrior cat characters and I had someone new join the RP. I'll call her Ravenwing for this story, since I can't remember the real character name.
Anyway... My leader character, Pharaohstar, was visiting an another leader, Wildstar, (the two leaders and clans had an alliegiance with each other) and suddenly Ravenwing started arguing with Wildstar's daughter... for whatever reason. She starts getting into an argument that escalated quickly into a RP fight. But then it turned into an OOC fight when Ravenwing started complaining about how Wildstar's daughter was ignoring her attacks. Some people were saying that Ravenwing wasn't being fair because her attacks were somewhat of a powerplay. Ravenwing started caps spamming, cursing and arguing about all the "flaws" we had; our roleplay posts weren't long enough, we were ignoring her attacks, we respond too slow, clans don't have alliegiences in the books and it was "forbidden" to do so. She went on, and on, and on until I finally said, "Look, if you don't like the way we are roleplaying, you don't have to roleplay with us." And then she said, "You guys are a bunch of idiots! I'm going to go join a MAPPED RP where people actually know how to roleplay!!" and then she ran off.
Little did she know that I took several screenshots of her fowl language and insults and sent them straight to a moderator. She wouldn't be roleplaying in a "pefect literate mapped roleplay" for a long time. ;D
So Stargazer, it makes me wonder if the person you're talking about in your story is the same person I dealt with. It would be ironic if it was.
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Ironic indeed Alizarin.
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Oh, when I used to roleplay frequently in-game, my RP samples were always accepted. Except, one time.....
More than a year ago, I once saw an ad for a mapped multi-species RP, and I was really interested. So, I whispered them and they invited me to a party; I needed a RP sample for them. Basic? No, not at all! I had to write 5 fricken posts to make my roleplay sample (which is very difficult for me), because they said they were a strict-literate roleplay. Like 20 minutes later, I was done and out of breath. When they finally replied after 10 minutes, they said my RP sample had a lot of spelling, punctuation, and grammar errors. On top of that, they said their roleplay wasn't for "illiterate kids like me". I was like, Honey, do you think I could perfectly write a 5-post roleplay on a laggy game like this? They thought I was lying about me lagging, and threw more insults at me. Disappointed, I left the party.
That incident made me severely dislike "strict" roleplays, and even barely roleplay on FH now. Now, as I look back at it, they were probably stuck-up thesaurus-humpers/wolfspeakers. C8
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One time, at least 8 weeks ago, I heard about this group named something like "Ancient Sanctuary". I whispered the owner asking him/her to join, and he asked me for an RP sample so I typed in, -Nathan ran down the hill yelling "I'll get you, ya dumb rabbit!" When suddenly, a rock appeared two feet before Nathan, and tripped him "Ouch!" Nathan yelled right before a large wolf walked by him and said, "Do you really have the audacity to come near our territory?"-
When I turned it in, they said: Sorry, your sample was rejected for the following reasons: 1. In order to stay in, you have to put in 2+ paragraphs per post
2. You misspelled "adacity"
I was like, "WTF??!"
I mean how could they expect somebody to type in 2 long paragraphs per post?
Plus, that isn't even how you spell audacity!
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That's the thing with me, I try avoiding those super literate groups because they like to have an ego or surperiority over everyone.
I myself am literate but not the type who goes with a crazy 200 paragraph post. Nor do I use big words in my post.
But still, people like this tick me off because they don't realize they are not better than you. Well anyway, I hope this gave you some info or whatever. Have a Lovely Day :)
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I myself never required RP sample in order to join. I consider RP samples kind of unfair to certain group of people. Many people counting me cant be literate becouse of having different keyboard that dont allows to write some marks. In my opinion most important about RP samples if required is:
1 If you have right grammar- This is most important as people wont understand posts with bad one.
2 How does it describe situation- the more detailed, the better.
3 How long is it- If too short we cant compare if your skills are higher or lower
4 If you can use certain marks- without them RP sample wont be perfect.
And about wolfspeak? I tolerate it. Everyone has different style of Rping, if someone likes this one? Why not? I accept it. I know several people using it and I have not problem with this style.
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I find Rp samples needed, for some Rp's. There are some roleplays' that will except any type of member, them being illiterate, or not. I think Rp samples are needed for some Rp's because it helps the Rp a bit more. You don't want someone joining your Rp if it's one of those fancy mapped ones, if they can't match up to your rping 'skills'. Here's an example -
Person 1 - Ravenpaw looked around at the horrible battle, being the Medicine Cat Apprentice, she had to make sure all the herbs were ready for the injured Warriors and Apprentices. (Person 1 types four more posts)
Person 2 - Smallpaw got hurt in the battle. She needed to go to the Medicine Cat den. Smallpaw padded over to the Medicine Cat den and asked for her wounds to be treated.
What's the point of making a descriptive and beautiful post if you don't get a really good response to it?
I also dislike people who reject samples because of a few errors, it has happened to me, but I still think that SOME rp samples are needed. Everyone makes mistakes, and people who call someone illiterate because of a spelling error is just a bit rude, but if someone feel likes they need to have a person give them an Rp sample, then I guess it's needed.
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I've never run into groups as strict as you all are talking about, but they really sound like a pain.
In all honesty, I' a fan of rp samples. I always ask for them, however they aren't mandatory; mostly because I rarely reject someone over their roleplaying skills. The only time I reject anyone is when they use a style that doesn't match and they refuse to switch styles. I have nothing against the "-pounces on the mouse-" type roleplaying, but when everyone else is writing a good paragraph or so, it really disrupts the roleplay.
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I never make anyone do rp samples some people aren't good with grammar, punctuation or spelling and what if they are tired af but want to rp its not going to be good but rps are made for fun for everybody not to nitpick and annoy people.
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Yeah the rp samples can be difficult in my opinion. I did it once for a group and the problem with rp samples is that its hard to rp by yourself. Now I'm not saying Rp sample are bad its just at least help us out a bit