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I've noticed in roleplays that people will often type long, elaborate posts on simple things, like their charcter falling asleep, grooming, or even just describing that character. Why? How come more people don't type posts to further the plot?
Lok at these to posts I made up.
Post 1 (Pretty):
The young she-wolf yawned as the warm morning sun woke her from her sleep. She stretched her body out in the cool dew, basking in the sunrise's red glow. She sighed quitely, so not to wake her pack, because she knew that the peace was not to last.
Post 2 (Productive):
The young she would yawned, and looked around her wearily. She sighed as she saw the red sun rising. "The battle field will be redder than the sun." she said, trying to hide her fear from the waking pack.
See the difference? The first one sound pretty, but by not describing her feelings or the situation well, it doesn't further the plot. The second, however, clearly says her feelings and gives a better view of the situation, and it prompts others to respond. That is the key detail. With the first post, it is harder to confront the character. In the second, you could have tied confronting her by saying something, now that she has spoken.
I hope I'e explained myself ok?
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This is actually helpful when a person needs to figure out if they are typing pretty which may be why no one will go up to them lol
But I would think that I type as the second post, unless I am RPing by myself or something.
I think the productive post is most important because, as you said, it does move the plot along. When I read that first one I felt like it was just kinda there and that the character was soft, not really knowing what to do. But with the second one it feels like she is a concrete char with emotions and such. Now the other RPers have something to go off of if you post productively, it seems more clear and readable to me.
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YEs. Brah I totally agree. Pretty or productive. I've seen some seriously pretty posts. I'm serious that once I role played and one person typed 3 POSTS on falling asleep...IN A ROW. Like she continued on the post. I was just...I.... *sigh*
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I am used to describing most of my character's body language, as most of them tend to prefer not to speak.
Not sure why this is, but it's been ever since back in 2012.
Might be that I find it difficult to keep them separate, or just a habit.
However a productive post can be as 'pretty' as one which isn't very productive.
A lot of people prefer long posts and to describe everything in smallest detail.
This usually also showing how advanced your roleplay is.
Though, nothing I'd do if there was a lot of people around.
If I am to post longer posts 3 - 5 paragraphs on FH, I tend to write everything out in a document first so that I can make my posting quicker ingame.
This way people don't have to wait as long for me to finish, and I get to go over the spelling mistakes 'n what not in peace.
I'd prefer mixing the pretty and productive.
Just a personal preference.
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When you first enter a rp I personally think it's nice to start with a 'pretty' post and then furthering the plot with a more productive post.
By doing this, they set the scene (I'm just going to call it a scene) and really give the readers/members
of the rp a better idea of what they're seeing and how their character are seeing it too.
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I can understand that you may not like/enjoy when members of your role play group do not stick to the situation that is occurring in the group, yet some people feel it necessary to illustrate their character in more depth than others in order for the rest of the group to know them better as an individual. However, I too find it immensely agitating when a fellow role player, goes off on a three paragraph interpretation on how the grass looks like a sea of green fish. Though very creative, it can get annoying when all you are reading is about grass fish.
SO. I completely understand how one can become agitated when someone does not stick to the "script", but you have to remember that some people feel it necessary to tell you more about their character.
Quote if you agree.
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I can understand that you may not like/enjoy when members of your role play group do not stick to the situation that is occurring in the group, yet some people feel it necessary to illustrate their character in more depth than others in order for the rest of the group to know them better as an individual. However, I too find it immensely agitating when a fellow role player, goes off on a three paragraph interpretation on how the grass looks like a sea of green fish. Though very creative, it can get annoying when all you are reading is about grass fish.
SO. I completely understand how one can become agitated when someone does not stick to the "script", but you have to remember that some people feel it necessary to tell you more about their character.
Quote if you agree.
I'd like to point out that exploring the character does further the plot (or atleast in my opinion) because it allowed for character development, which is more important than people credit it for. Also, when I said describing their character, I ment their physical appearance.
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I usually begin my RP with something of the useless-but-pretty nature. It lets people know I'm ready to RP - and hopefully, catches their attention at my fabu RP style /hair flip xD - AND THEN progress on to the 'productive' posts as you call them. It's hard to begin with a 'productive' post because you might type out something that's obviously to another character, then find them on 'brb' or with a post directed at someone completely different. It jumbles up the RP a little. Less awkward, for one, to begin with a vague post. X'D But productive posts are more entertaining - if less flowery - because they have more information than description in them.
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I do pretty posts when I can't think of anything and I don't want to make a three word post.
Pretty: Caroline sat on the console of the TARDIS, slowly and gracefully licking her paws as she waited for Solara's return.
Productive: Caroline fluffed up her tail, staring right into the eyes of the man. "Don't you ever, even DARE come back!" She hissed, as the little, white kitten hid behind her leg.
Both of those moments never happened, but Portal/Doctor Who/SuperNatural/Assassin's Creed/More stuff. Roleplays can be werid.
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Productive posts... really... sometimes I do pretty posts but only if I have nothing to post.
The reason I choose Productive posts is because it gets straight to the point. I hardly roleplay anymore (due to the FH roleplaying system going down its own grave) but I used Productive posts when I honestly wanted to post. If I had nothing to post, I would often do Pretty posts. But I honestly like Productive posts more than Pretty posts because it explains feelings and gives me more information about them, not the atmosphere.
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I usually entwine both types. Productive it its in game or on a chat and pretty on forums. Though most of the time, I don't really keep solidly to one.
Examples of both from me
'Productive' - Arkanis stood adjacent from the dark figure, his jaw arcing back in a detesting snarl, "You'll pay for what you've done you monster! Don't think you'll escape out of this alive." His opponent threw him a playful glance before taunting, "Then come at me you pitiful fool. I'd love to see you try to stop me." At the moment of that statement, the spirit fox lunged forward as the two souls wrestled in a vigorous final conflict to see who would reign supreme.
'Pretty' - The raven toned lupine released himself from the hold. His chest contracted erratically as he tried to regain control of his hastily paced breaths. Tremors ran up and down the brute's famished and worn down structure, sections of his entangled knotted fur falling loose and even bare in some locations where he acquired injuries. A near skeletal ankle stomped authoritatively forward as the brute repositioned himself to display his fierce, stubborn demeanor, as it always prevailed. His beady toxic gaze befell the shorter turquoise opponent who aligned his sights as a cruel smirk crossed his sinister muzzle, ready for a second go.
Both types are really needed if you think about it. Productive so the plot moves forward and pretty so you have a clear visual of the surroundings, characters, emotions, etc. I really can't devote to using just one. Though i have to say that I prefer using body language rather than dialogue to interpret thoughts/emotions and I suppose you could say i lean more towards the pretty side.
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I myself use both, tho more the time productive ones. Sometimes in rp I see a couple pretty posters, which os perfectly fine, as a realistic rp would like to explain body language in their posts right? It's a iffy subject, depending on who's posting really, but, either one os fine to me. Unless you say every thing your character does in five seconds. Huehue, dats when it get over pretty.
~ Whisper
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I can see where you're coming from on this.
Personally, I liked the first one for starting an rp. I don't like to feel rushed and I don't like "lets just jump right into it!" rps. I feel like I know someone's character better the more they type, the more they put into it. Just my opinion, but the #1 and #2 kind of gave me each a different feel on the character. One stretched out, the other time she looked around wearily. The #1 sighed to herself. The #2 Spoke, to herself. Very similar but I got a different feel for each one of them. #1 Seemed more accepting of the situation that character #2 did. Maybe it's just me.
I feel like how you describe your character and what he/she feels, and thinks, makes a huge difference. If you're trying to encourage more plot theme, though, I agree with the Productive Post. I think an equality of both is good. Both are important. And it depends on a situation.
Ex: (sorry it's going to be long))
#1(Pretty): The pale gray she-cat wearily padded up to the blue, shining moonstone that reflected off rays of light. She felt the instinct to touch it with her nose. She crept forward and pressed her nose gently against the glowing rock. At contact, she collapsed to her paws and faded into darkness. She awoke in unfamiliar surroundings. A beautiful tortoishell she-cat with piercing green eyes stood to the left. On her right, lay a dark brown tom with a scar over his left eye, and deep tear on his left ear. "Where am I?" The gray she-cat asked, gazing around in an unfamiliar habitat. She was in a forest. Well lit, moss hanging ever so softly from the trees. Plently of grass and sunlight. "You are in StarClan," The toritoshell she-cat mewed softly. "I have a prophecy to give you. Close your eyes, young one." The light gray she-cat did as she was told. As soon as her lids closed, a vision flashed across her face. A pale white tom with burning red eyes prowled over to a black cat. He barred his fangs and lept onto the cat with unsheathed claws. He ripped the black cat's maw out, leaving blood stains tattered on his white pelt. The next vision came- A frail tabby kit gazed over his mother with his one blue eye and green one. He mewed and kneaded against her dark ginger fur. She opened her eyes and whispered to the kitten, "Once the full moon fades, so will your Clan. Be strong, little one." Before closing her blue eyes for the last time. A series of more visions flooded the she-cat's mind until she was awoken by her brother, Stripepool.
#2:(Productive) The light-gray she cat saw a shining stone. She crept towards it and touched it with her nose. All went black. When she opened her eyes she saw a pretty she-cat. Next to her was also a dark brown cat.
"Where am I?" The she-cat asked, unfamiliar of her new surroundings. "You are in StarClan." The other she-cat meowed.
"We have a prophecy for you. Now close your eyes, young one." The she-cat did as she was told and was instantly flooded with visions. A white cat was attacking a black cat. Blood spewed everywhere. Then a ginger she-cat was telling her kitten, "Once the moon fades, so will your Clan." Then she closed her eyes for the last time. More visions came, until her brother shouted in her ear.
Now my point here is- The Pretty post and the Productive one are BOTH useful. I am aware that my posts were long, but that's where i'm getting at. You see, the Pretty post was not needed all that much in the beginning. Yes, she sees a cool stone and touches it. What else? The Productive post wins there.
But when she slipped into the dream, she met two cats. The Productive post describes a dark brown tom. Fair enough. But the Pretty Post points out the scars. Maybe the main character in this story is related to a cat who is described just as that. You wouldn't know. (Now I assume if it was crucial to the rp, they probably would mention this.))
Maybe it's important to know what her surrounding was..just saying..
When the character meets the toritoshell cat and the scarred one, it gets a little confusing. Who was talking?
Productive Post describes the kitten's mother dying and something about a moon. The Pretty Post tells a little more of it. See, maybe it's important what the Tabby Kitten looked like, because based off the words of his mother, He may just be part of an important prophecy!
So from what it seems here, The Pretty most may actually turn out to be more productive than the Prouductive Post.
So, my opinion says pretty biased. Pretty Post is useful when it comes to extreme detail and precision for prophecy. Productive post, I will hand you, DOES help the plot move along. If you're rping in a fast-paced rp with lots of action, the Productive post is very helpful. If you're rping basically alone and you're bored with nothing to do, I don't see the fault of the Pretty post. So it all depends for me. This is just my opinion. I'm tending to agree half and half with all of you. Dunno why this took so long. This ended up being a Pretty Post of my own. But im bored so I guess there's no harm, right?
Feel free to disagree. This is just my opinion. I'll actually be surprised if anyone read this. XD