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Not sure if I should consider this as a mini "rant" or a general address but something has been bothering me for the past few weeks on Feral Heart and that's the dark humor some users have on very disturbing, depressing, and serious topics.
The main topic I'm talking about here is Ebola.
Yes it's not something I like to talk about very much but given the gravity of the topic I felt I needed to state some things. This issue is a very important issue going on in our world. It's been taking the lives of many people for quite some time now and it's caused a lot of suffering, pain, and fear.
So why do so many users on FH think that this is the kind of topic to throw around disrespectfully and worse joke about?
The dark sense of humor in some users on FH is disgusting and it's not limited to jokes about ebola but it's also seen constantly with talk of rape, terrorism, and suicide. I seriously fail to see the humor in these topics. Have some users really stooped this low?
I think that it's time for some users to reevaluate themselves and their maturity level. I also think some users need to use their brain and hearts when bringing up discussions like these or better yet don't bring up these discussions. Consider the severity of these topics before letting yourself speak of them in such an insensitive and childish manner. Think deeply about how you'd feel if any of these issues effected someone or something you love dearly. Would you be happy to hear others make such a mockery of your or your loved ones suffering? I highly doubt it.
Please stop embarrassing yourselves and ruining the integrity of this game and community because every time someone does something bad here they have an effect on the entire community and out look of this game.
So I suggest that we do this-
Let's keep Feral Heart as:
- a happy & fun place.
- a community of friends & family
- a safe refuge
- an imaginative canvas
- an escape from the harshness of reality
But more importantly let's start by improving ourselves as not only players but individuals.
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I understand fully with this statement here. Dark humor is typically taken to far, by either people who think they're funny, edgy, etc. In some cases, some people may make these dark humor jokes as a form of coping through something. Sort of like a woman I knew whom was raped, but makes rape jokes as a way of coping through the experience. It may not always work out, but it could be that way. Other than that, I understand and agree with your 'rant'.
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Can I just say that I've waited so long for somebody to call out behaviour like this on the forum?
As somebody who's struggled with one of the topics mentioned I can get pretty uncomfortable when it's brought up in a joking manner and I honestly thank you for asking people to stop. I (and I'm sure lots of other people) really appreciate it! ;w;
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Couldn't have said it better myself, Sura.
While I don't mind people have a slightly dark side to their sense of humour, really heavy topics such as Ebola, suicide are terrorism and on a level far beyond acceptable. I've seen people do this in other parts of the internet as well as in FeralHeart and I really dislike it.
The fact that people find these things amusing to joke is the most disturbing thing. There's literally nothing funny about these things. They're serious subjects that need to be addressed in a serious manner, rather than light-heartedly with happy faces and giggles.
There's also the fact that you don't really know the people who are listening in to the conversation. For all we know, any one of them could be suffering at the hands of Ebola, could be having suicidal thoughts or have a loved one who they lost in a terrorist attack. It's insensitive and inconsiderate to talk about these things when those sort people could be present.
Not to mention it really ruins the atmosphere of the game. How depressing is it when you're happily chatting away with someone or roleplaying and some randomer comes out with "Omg we're all gonna catch ebola and die!" It's extremely unpleasant! When we're here, we don't want to think about those things; we just to have some time to chill out and relax and escape from reality for a little while. It kind of defeats the objective when people come out with those sort of sentences.
I'd urge people in-game on FeralHeart, and on other places on the internet too, to just think before deciding to say something. Think about the people who are listening and who they might be or what's going on in their lives. It'll save us all a lot of distress.
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I don't find something as to death a "funny" thing at all. Let alone if the subject is being used as a excuse for Dark Humor is just sad. But it isn't here I noticed it happening, mostly everyone is subjected to this Dark Humor, even parents. Like a few days ago after the Ebola outbreak started to go around I was very very ill, cold, sleepy, and coughing ALOT. At that time I was just so paranoid and thought I had it. Then.....
Mom: Maybe you got the Ebola (smiles and laughs)
Me:.......get out.
So everyone does this no matter there age, I wish they didn't have such humor as this since this kinda subject does touch on health afflictions and you CAN die from this Ebola. I agree with your rant tho, this kinda thing should not be "picked fun at" or subjects of mental/physical health that a person can't help but have.
I think that it's time for some users to reevaluate themselves and their maturity level. I also think some users need to use their brain and hearts when bringing up discussions like these or better yet don't bring up these discussions. Consider the severity of these topics before letting yourself speak of them in such an insensitive and childish manner. Think deeply about how you'd feel if any of these issues effected someone or something you love dearly. Would you be happy to hear others make such a mockery of your or your loved ones suffering? I highly doubt it.
I might not have been around game to see alot of people talk disrespectfully on this subject, but if ever I did I would address to them that their comments are unnecessary and shameful that they would make fun of this serious thing. For people who don't take into consideration of others feelings or reactions to this Dark "humor" you are just degrading yourself and you are theoretically preforming a form of harassment. I suggest for future Dark Humor such as this is to be carried out, watch what you say and keep the FH game a friendly goofy place. FH is the best place to relax and zen from the outside world. There is no need to bring stuff like Dark Humor in game, Like a wise person said:
"If you don't have something nice to say, Don't say it at all."
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you CAN die from this Ebola.
You probably will if you get it, but back ontopic I'm glad you are talking about this other games have this proble aswell perfectly fine community's seeming like completetly ruining your experience because ebola is thrown around like cancer is on all those forums these days, honestly I'm not even sure if this is still 'dark humor'.
Death is not fun, Its not something to be afriad of but its not fun either atleast I dont see a reason to be afraid of death But its certainly not something to laugh about. personally I do laugh at a good joke even if its dark humor but 'jokes' about terrorism, suicide and sickness alike I do not see the humor in.
I'm glad that this is brought to this topic and I hope this enlightens many readers.
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I agree with you whole-heartedly, Suragaha; these kinds of subjects aren't acceptable, and they should not be spoken of, either on FH or elsewhere. Unfortunately there's some people that have to joke about these things; but if they're going to do it, they should do it in whisper and not in local where everyone can see it.
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I totally agree here. This stuff even happens at school. Kids are joking about Ebola like it's nothing serious at all but in truth it could kill off an entire population. The topic of Ebola is very sensitive to me because I know a good friend who lives in Africa near places that have Ebola infected people. It is quite scary to see what Ebola can do to a person, so in truth the topic of Ebola shouldn't mentioned in game at ALL.
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I just wanna point this out that I think the reason people make these jokes aren't to be funny but to make it seem less scary for themselves and others. Anytime I'm in a scary situation in making jokes to keep my mind from the scary things. We all know these things are bad or at least I hope we all do but honestly I think the only people who actually make these jokes are to make it seem less scary yes some people may treat it like dumb thing to joke about but I'd say most people are just joking and honestly I hate some of the jokes too especially the ones at my school cause I know the person who started it is just trying to be funny not take it seriously or to make it seem less scary. Well that's all I wanted to say might aswell avoid this before I get jumped for being 'inconsiderate' like I usually am.
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The terms black comedy or dark comedy have been later derived as alternatives to Breton's term. In black humor, topics and events that are usually regarded as taboo, specifically those related to death, are treated in an unusually humorous or satirical manner while retaining their seriousness; the intent of black comedy, therefore, is often for the audience to experience both laughter and discomfort, sometimes simultaneously. -Wikipedia
I myself have quite a pessimistic outlook on life and I typically lean more towards satyrical and dark humour, since it's something I find myself enjoying more than "-slips on banana peel-" or "Haha, she farted!". I like when comedy gives me something to reflect on after the initial chuckle or laugh or simply makes me genuinely laugh. Comedy like "Mind your language" succeeded quite often, even though it's not dark humour. Franz Kafka's "Metamorphosis" book was and is probably my favourite book to date and yes, it has dark humour.
However, this is beyond my comprehension. Why on earth would you scream "We're all gonna get Ebola!" ? It's not funny, it's not ironic, it's not even chuckle-worthy. There's definitely nothing good to reflect on (other than how and when you might die), neither is there any context right now in which it can be used to generate humour. It's just rather annoying and rude.
Look, I enjoy dark humour that actually can be classified as "humour". Running around shouting things related to the subjects mentioned is probably not even going to get my attention.
Then there is another thing I believe can be added to this:
Do not expect people to enjoy the same thing you do. If somehow you enjoy running around screaming about Ebola, that's fine, I won't chastise you for it if you don't get in my face with it, but don't go around expecting others to enjoy it as well. If anything, you should keep humour that seems or is offensive to yourself. No one should need to tell you to stop doing that, I believe everyone here can tell themselves "This might offend someone, better I keep it to myself."
There's nothing more that I cannot stand than people who act so oblivious; it's practically seeping through their pores that their only intention is to get you angry by making it look like they're allowed everything because they "didn't know".
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At the same time though, most people just don't think about how their jokes can seem hurtful or insensitive to others. There's been many times where I'd crack a joke that was poorly received by my classroom peers in high school.
At that time I'd really sit there dumbfounded as to why they didn't enjoy it whereas I though it was hilarious only a few seconds ago. They may have been sensitive to those things, but I learned to just laugh it off, my way of dealing with negativity was to build up a thick hide, yet I didn't consider that my peers may have been through less or do not handle these things the same way I do. In hindsight, I can now see why.
Some people are blunt. Others that are not, might feel like the blunt people are coming off as rude. It all depends on how and who says it and how it is received. Still, the point stands, everyone should know better than to take a heavy subject and start to make cringe humour on it.
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This has been bothering me for quite some time now.
I will never understand how so many immature people can find humor in subjects such as rape, terrorism, suicide, and now, ebola. These things aren't to be taken lightly and if the situation of these dark subjects gets any worse on FH I might just start blocking the people who joke around about them.
Lately, my dad has been talking to me and my younger brothers about ebola and how serious it is and that it's a very unpleasant thing to have to worry about. Of course, my little brothers are immature sometimes, but even they knew that ebola is certainly not something to joke around about.
There are even some immature freshmen at my school who joke around about terrorism and even my friends joke around about rape sometimes. Usually I simply not say anything against them, and will keep a straight face and walk away. I mean, seriously? The immaturity level of some I people I know both in real life and on the internet really bugs me.
Glad you brought this up Sura, I hope some people who take these subjects as an excuse for humor will read this thread and be more pleasant the next time they talk to someone.
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//Guilty
However, I tend to keep it away from FeralHeart and the public, as I've found such jokes on sites such
as Facebook and 4chan(weallknow4chan..)
But Ebola in fact is a very devastating diese(cantspell) indeed.
and I hope a solution can be found to it<3
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Thank you all for your feedback on this topic. Each of you has brought up good points and I'm glad to see that the majority seem to agree about the severity of this issue.
There is one thing mentioned here a few times that I'd like to talk about though and that's the idea of making humor out of a particular topic to comfort yourself from the true feelings that it evokes in you. While I can understand doing this kind of thing in certain mild situations I fail to see a just reason in it when it comes to such hard hitting subjects like disease, rape, suicide, and terrorism. If people are afraid or bothered by these subjects why bring them up at all or make an excuse to bring them up in a "humorous" way? Has humanity really gotten this naive and insensitive to others? Why with so many other solutions like talking things out etc do some pick "dark humor" to comfort themself? To me it just seems selfish. This is a large public community with individuals coming from a wide range of countries and backgrounds and it's obvious to see that not everyone will be pleased with this kind of humor. In fact highly doubt that the well being of the majority is considered each time someone decides to crack a joke about one of these topics. Every time someone considers doing this they take the risk of offending or hurting someone for their own personal and selfish comfort.
On the flip side if we took the time to maturely discuss, support, and comfort each other what harm is there in that? None. For this reason I see no justification for humor in these kinds of situations. Humor is just a selfish, cold, and insensitive approach to confronting these issues. Humor in these circumstances often does worse than help. I strongly believe that humanity is not so simple minded and that we can come up with better solutions for comforting each other in rough times than making a mockery out of these issues. This kind of humor is what makes recent generations take everything in the world so lightly. The fact that we can't maturely come to grips with these dark but serious circumstances says a lot about our species and the direction we're going in in society.
Humor does not solve problems. Humor does not allow us to face our emotions and learn to cope with them but rather it throws out a temporarily mask to cover what's really going on in this world and within each individual. To make this world and its people a better place we need to learn better approaches to these kinds of topics because humor does nothing to prevent these issues in the first place. Humor with these topics makes the world take the severity of the issues for granted and within a game with so many young and impressionable minds I don't think this is the kind of message we want to send out to the world. While we should seek ways to comfort each other we should also accept the fact that these dark things exist in our world and we should respect these topics enough so as not to joke about them or take them lightly. With respect comes true understanding and eventually change. If we want the world to change and we want to start living in a world with less of these issues we first need to change the way we think and act upon these challenges.
So next time you decide upon humor when discussing such serious topics perhaps consider what I and so many others have suggested here.
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Okay, I kind of understand where you all are getting at, but in my mind I'm thinking of something totally different. It probably goes against what some of the others have said here.
I don't know, like I understand dark humor has a lot of controversial stuff in it, but to me it's not as bad as you all say it is.
Kids at my school joke about things like STDs, Ebola, obesity ect., but in reality, I'm sure they know for a fact that it's a serious thing. And it's not like they go around the school telling their jokes to everyone. They just keep it to themselves because they know it might hurt some other peoples feelings. Now I know some of you are thinking, "well, if they know it hurts others feelings, then they wouldn't joke about it at all!". True, but it's kind of the same thing with swearing. Some people don't like it, and others do it all the time. The people who do it all the time swear with their friends and people they know are comfortable with it. The people who don't like swearing never hear it, and if they do they just ignore it, and both groups are satisfied. I don't understand what the problem is. Same with drugs. There's a boy at my school who has had a hard time quitting weed, and he jokes about it all the time. It's just his way of coping. You can't tell him that drugs aren't funny, I mean of course he knows that! If that's his way of coping and it makes him more comfortable with what he's going through, I don't see a problem. The people who still think otherwise just leave it alone.
I was watching a YouTube video of someone playing a Barbie Horse game, and she was making jokes about cats being trampled by horses and whatnot. Someone in the comments got offended because ironically enough, her cat got killed after being trampled, and told the gamer it wasn't funny and that she should say sorry. The gamer replied back saying that she wasn't going to apologize because in reality, she had no way of knowing about the commenter's cat (She did apologize for the commenter's loss though). She also lost her cat, and she saying that she also lost her cat and joking about it was just her way of dealing with it at the time.
I probably went a bit off topic with this one, but the point I'm trying to get out is that a joke is a joke. You can't stop people from doing it. And just because someone makes a dark humor joke doesn't mean they're being selfish or trying to hurt others feelings. Freshman at my school joke about rape. Do you just assume that they don't know anything about rape, and how serious it is? We talk about things like this at school all the time in assemblies, class, or just with other teachers. They care more about educating us about serious topics rather than getting teenagers to stop, because they know it's just not possible.
I understand, topics like Ebola and suicide are serious, and no one should ever have to go through such a thing. But in my opinion, just because someone makes an offensive or dark joke, doesn't necessarily mean that they are a terrible person or are uneducated about it. (I understand if no one else feels the same way, but that's just how I see the situation :/ )
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I was scared to say something but DevilBurgers said it for me.
Yeah, I think a lot of people know that things such as suicide, rape, ebola, etc. are serious topics but making jokes about it does help some people go through with it. And I have a lot of drama in my family so I think I do have some rights to joke about them. Even at school, my teacher jokes about Ebola so we don't see it as something that will put us into a panic and have us stressed out 24/7 so we couldn't focus. Now do I say this stuff to everyone? No, only the people that I feel can handle it, I love all kinds of humor and dark humor is something that really gets me laughing. I love a good joke or two about pedos, drugs, and the like, it is something I enjoy. And when a person gets all mean and walks away from it, I wonder why. Because to me, I don't see what the big deal is. Yes I know how serious these topics are, I am 16 and almost in the middle of my high school life. The main reason why I won't joke about such things is if a friend or person I am talking to has had a bad experience with such things, then I understand. But, as DevilBurgers said, a joke is a joke and I don't like cussing, yet all of my friends cuss like sailors, even I have a few times, do I get mad at them? No I ignore it.
If I sounded offensive I am sorry, I just had to get this off my chest
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I was scared to say something but DevilBurgers said it for me.
Yeah, I think a lot of people know that things such as suicide, rape, ebola, etc. are serious topics but making jokes about it does help some people go through with it. And I have a lot of drama in my family so I think I do have some rights to joke about them. Even at school, my teacher jokes about Ebola so we don't see it as something that will put us into a panic and have us stressed out 24/7 so we couldn't focus. Now do I say this stuff to everyone? No, only the people that I feel can handle it, I love all kinds of humor and dark humor is something that really gets me laughing. I love a good joke or two about pedos, drugs, and the like, it is something I enjoy. And when a person gets all mean and walks away from it, I wonder why. Because to me, I don't see what the big deal is. Yes I know how serious these topics are, I am 16 and almost in the middle of my high school life. The main reason why I won't joke about such things is if a friend or person I am talking to has had a bad experience with such things, then I understand. But, as DevilBurgers said, a joke is a joke and I don't like cussing, yet all of my friends cuss like sailors, even I have a few times, do I get mad at them? No I ignore it.
If I sounded offensive I am sorry, I just had to get this off my chest
I think the main point here is that if you've got friends that can deal with the subject, then that's fine; you can keep it between them and yourself - just don't go spewing it in public like lots of FH users do. Subjects like terrorism, rape, suicide, ebola, are really heavy and dark subjects that either directly or indirectly affect a lot, and I mean a lot of people, and people get upset when they hear about it. Some people joke about stuff to relieve themselves, but as Suragaha said, it's somewhat insensitive to others and selfish, and that's not how everyone deals with it; some folks just really don't want to hear about the stuff. You wouldn't crack a joke with such heavy subjects around people you didn't know, because it could quite easily offend them; but many FH users say these things in public chat regardless of who is listening, and I'm pretty sure that's what this is about. To me these jokes, while some might regard them as relieving, is just making light of a dark subject and subsequently making it seem less way less bad than it actually is. It's unnecessarily bringing these subjects back into the spotlight when some people want to just forget about them - or worse, it's bringing them into the spotlight in the wrong way. Why make insensitive jests out of something that so deeply affects many people?
I'm just going to put this out there that I myself am a victim of sexual assault, and I make it very clear to people I know not to use the word 'rape' when in my presence; yet a few still do. Why? I don't know. Maybe they think it's not a serious problem; maybe they just don't think; maybe they're just like "LOL but rape is a term for when you get pwned in a game, lol right?"; maybe they don't really care or think that by joking about the stuff, I'll feel better about what happened - but I don't. Every time I hear about it, I feel worse. Yeah, joke about this stuff with your friends so long as they're okay with it - but don't put it where everyone can see it, don't crack jokes when others have made it explicitly clear not to talk about it. That's exactly the problem in FeralHeart. People run around and say stuff in local about getting raped, or about terrorism, or about ebola - they say it in local (and previously in general) where absolutely anyone and everyone can see it without giving a single damn about how other people might feel about it. It's wrong, and FH users and internet users in general need to stop being so jejune and grow the heck up. People need to realise that words have a huge impact that can really affect a person's mental health negatively. Before saying this stuff in public, people should just think for a split second. That's all it takes: half a second of thinking.
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With friends and/or family you know well: fine, have a bit of dark humour to your heart's content.
In public with strangers: no no, just don't.
Example: I'd happily have a little giggle at some of my step-dad's bad dark humour jokes with my best friends and family members. I would not even dare make a joke about rape or terrorism on the bus from town; I'd probably get beaten up by the old people xD.
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The thing here is that we're not alone/with our friends or people who we know are comfortable with this humour. It's quite risky to crack one of these in front of a crowd because not everyone can relate or find it funny. FH is a group of people, and so it is best to either joke around in whisper or group, with people you are certain will enjoy it. I'm sure if a surgeon cracked a joke like this, the entire crowd would recoil.
The second thing that I was going to mention as well is that this humour is CRUCIAL to doctors.
90% admitted to using dark humour while operating on patients and with their colleagues. Why?
Because it gets their mind off the stressful situation and helps to release the nervous energy from perhaps the previous operation which went wrong.
They cannot use a knock knock banana joke during this time because it's not humorous in the current situation, however, the humour that is effective in dealing with a life and death operation is indeed gallows humour.
I for one, would rather be the next patient of a doctor that had a good laugh at the expense of the previous patient than one that spent an hour mulling over the operation and will probably do a poor job with my ailment because he's thinking about the previous incident.
However, the doctors do not joke in front of patients about their problems or etcetera.
Another important point is that when we log into FeralHeart, we are probably not under the tremendous stress that surgeons and doctors are, unless you're operating and playing FH in which case... just no.
I'm not saying that everyone isn't under stress, I'm saying you have access to other ways of getting this stress out, while if you were operating on someone in an ER, you really have only a quick wit and humour to help you.
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This has been itching at me as well. If your going to joke about something, please find something that is actually funny, not death...or well, disease.
As Ferah said, you can die from Ebola, there's no other way to say this, I don't find it funny...no I find it actually quite frightening. There has been I think two or three cases of Ebola in the US already, one person died from it, but yeah, it's not mature to joke about or think it's funny...Ebola is serious.
Yes humor is good, but to a limit. Yeah you can have a giggle or two about things and be mature about it, but if it's something as serious as this, I'd say not to do it...
Doctors are trying to find a cure to Ebola, which we have great progress, but, before you joke about it, think of all the people in Africa dying from it....
Sorry if this seemed a bit rude.
~ Whisper
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I'd just like to say that the majority of the people making these jokes have never had these things happen to them or their loved ones, which causes a certain level of detachment from, and even the romanticism of the true nature of death, sickness, terrorism, war, ect. (And of course there's a percent of people who're just trying to make light of a situation to alleviate fear. It's a very effective survival mechanism).
People who have never had to deal with someone close to them being sick or dying are much more likely to make insensitive jokes about death. The concepts of sickness, death, and ect are just that: concepts. For them, these concepts are things that happen to other people in faraway lands that have no real impact on their daily lives, and therefore they don't bother to try to understand the impact these events have had on the people who've experienced such losses and tragedy.
Not trying to defend these idio...people, just trying to give insight on their possible thought process...or lack thereof.
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First off +floof to you Lord Sura.
Thank you for bringing this up.
In all honesty this type of humor shakes me to the very core. I dislike humor this dark and horrid. Just he other day I sat at Stone Bridge, and heard members jokingly throw around the words retarded or retard. I get highly offended by the use of those words due to the fact that I had to help partake fighting against society when they labeled one of my own family members as such. It is rude to yourself and to others to call them this, and many should be ashamed of themselves for it.
Another thing is when people jokingly throw the words of rape or suicide out in the chat. What other members don't realize is how those words can affect the brain of another member. For instance I have had to calm many friends who have been through many situations like that because just the sight of those words brought back the thoughts and bad memories of their past sending them into panic attacks. How much I wished to muzzle the person who mentioned those words, and caused many of my friends pain by just the mention. I must admit a large percentage of us floofs most likely had something awful like that happen to us before. Me speaking from my own horrors I must deal with everyday.
I just hope one day the floofs that find all of this humorous stop and think of every person they hurt with these kind of jokes. It would make everyone closer and happier as a family and community if you took other's feelings and pasts into consideration.
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I'd just like to say that the majority of the people making these jokes have never had these things happen to them or their loved ones, which causes a certain level of detachment from, and even the romanticism of the true nature of death, sickness, terrorism, war, ect. (And of course there's a percent of people who're just trying to make light of a situation to alleviate fear. It's a very effective survival mechanism).
People who have never had to deal with someone close to them being sick or dying are much more likely to make insensitive jokes about death. The concepts of sickness, death, and ect are just that: concepts. For them, these concepts are things that happen to other people in faraway lands that have no real impact on their daily lives, and therefore they don't bother to try to understand the impact these events have had on the people who've experienced such losses and tragedy.
Not trying to defend these idio...people, just trying to give insight on their possible thought process...or lack thereof.
I can see where you are coming from and I can bet that most people do think like this. But I have to defend for those who have gone through something like that. My family has, and I don't joke around about it with that specific member because I know that it is a sensative topic. Nor do I see myself as an idiot for joking about it. This world is spiraling downhill into probably another world war or just plain war against eachother, at least in America, not sure about elsewhere, and in order for me and my other friends to stay happy, we have to joke about serious topics, we don't want to be one of those uptight, always thinking that only the most innocent jokes are the best, type of person. Of course, the actual idiots that don't even know what rape means, those can get a slap to the face. I understand the meanings and seriousness of these topics, also having a tiny bit of experince with a few of them. In all seriousness, I don't think that if a person gets bullied it is a funny matter, but I am allowed to joke about it afterwards.
Ehehehe, not trying to argue back with people though ^^; just voicing how it is on the other side for a person like me, and I do agree with some of the posts opposite of mine.
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I can see where you are coming from and I can bet that most people do think like this. But I have to defend for those who have gone through something like that. My family has, and I don't joke around about it with that specific member because I know that it is a sensative topic. Nor do I see myself as an idiot for joking about it. This world is spiraling downhill into probably another world war or just plain war against eachother, at least in America, not sure about elsewhere, and in order for me and my other friends to stay happy, we have to joke about serious topics, we don't want to be one of those uptight, always thinking that only the most innocent jokes are the best, type of person. Of course, the actual idiots that don't even know what rape means, those can get a slap to the face. I understand the meanings and seriousness of these topics, also having a tiny bit of experince with a few of them. In all seriousness, I don't think that if a person gets bullied it is a funny matter, but I am allowed to joke about it afterwards.
Ehehehe, not trying to argue back with people though ^^; just voicing how it is on the other side for a person like me, and I do agree with some of the posts opposite of mine.
I actually do agree with you, I'm just very pessimistic (or realistic, depending on your experiences with people). My family has gone through a few tragedies as well, so, like you, I reign in my dark humor and am just generally respectful when I'm around them. I occasionally joke about more serious topics to take my friends and family's minds off of a situation, but joking to cope is a bit different than throwing around words thoughtlessly. A few darker jokes here and there can brighten up a situation, but a lot of people just don't use good judgment when making them. Then again, being overly sensitive and uptight isn't a good thing either. Everyone's sense of humor/thought process is different, so things that you and I think are funny/appropriate to the situation could be seen as insensitive or disrespectful to others. If more people used common sense when joking about these topics, I think a lot less people would be offended. There's definitely a time and a place, and public chats in a family friendly community tend to not be one of them.
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I can see where you are coming from and I can bet that most people do think like this. But I have to defend for those who have gone through something like that. My family has, and I don't joke around about it with that specific member because I know that it is a sensative topic. Nor do I see myself as an idiot for joking about it. This world is spiraling downhill into probably another world war or just plain war against eachother, at least in America, not sure about elsewhere, and in order for me and my other friends to stay happy, we have to joke about serious topics, we don't want to be one of those uptight, always thinking that only the most innocent jokes are the best, type of person. Of course, the actual idiots that don't even know what rape means, those can get a slap to the face. I understand the meanings and seriousness of these topics, also having a tiny bit of experince with a few of them. In all seriousness, I don't think that if a person gets bullied it is a funny matter, but I am allowed to joke about it afterwards.
Ehehehe, not trying to argue back with people though ^^; just voicing how it is on the other side for a person like me, and I do agree with some of the posts opposite of mine.
I actually do agree with you, I'm just very pessimistic (or realistic, depending on your experiences with people). My family has gone through a few tragedies as well, so, like you, I reign in my dark humor and am just generally respectful when I'm around them. I occasionally joke about more serious topics to take my friends and family's minds off of a situation, but joking to cope is a bit different than throwing around words thoughtlessly. A few darker jokes here and there can brighten up a situation, but a lot of people just don't use good judgment when making them. Then again, being overly sensitive and uptight isn't a good thing either. Everyone's sense of humor/thought process is different, so things that you and I think are funny/appropriate to the situation could be seen as insensitive or disrespectful to others. If more people used common sense when joking about these topics, I think a lot less people would be offended. There's definitely a time and a place, and public chats in a family friendly community tend to not be one of them.
I felt like you just said everything I was trying to lol I agree completely
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This. I agree wholeheartedly with this post. I see people all over the place joke about it, treating it as some funny little joke, which... it's not.
I've seen people being all like, "That guy has EBOLA!" or even remixing that "Ricola" commercial to say "Ebola" instead.
And, don't even get me started on Ebola-chan.
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So I suggest that we do this-
Let's keep Feral Heart as:
- a happy & fun place.
- a community of friends & family
- a safe refuge
- an imaginative canvas
- an escape from the harshness of reality
But more importantly let's start by improving ourselves as not only players but individuals.
>implying that everyone who plays the game will follow that
lmao
anyways jokes about rape, racism, sexism, etc are very offensive and anyone who jokes about it is trash. my brother seriously jokes about those topics and you do not believe how annoyed about it. but, i can't tell him to stop because he will call me way too sensitive, tell me to shut up, or ignore me. im angry that i have to stay with him at all times after school because he's always the boss of what i do or say. i am unable to tell him that his jokes are offensive. i'd rather watch my school's sport teams play for hours than stay with him and hear his trashy jokes. he actually offended a person by saying a racist joke, but of course he was unaware of it.
although, light jokes around friends are pretty acceptable. for example, if someone sneezes in my math class, one person could say "omg u hav ebola dont touch me <:o" (then the class goes on about ebola for ten minutes). it's sarcastic and it's around friends. something more about ebola jokes, the reason people take it lightly is because it hasn't infected much of the western world. if someone would joke about it in the country where it's very viral in i'm pretty sure it would be taken more seriously. but this is only to a certain level. if you are seriously joking about something serious such as racism, sexism, and rape, then it's not considered at a sarcastic level at all.
like what was mentioned a couple of times, some people may joke about stuff to let off steam and emotional feelings about their real issues in their life. i'm terribly sorry for mentioning something like this and i know everyone's annoyed by it but brendon urie has joked about him being bi-polar several times (although it wasn't really conformed he was actually diagnosed with anything like that). plus, my brother's friend earlier today had joked about his mother being an alcoholic, which im pretty sure it affects him personally.
"dark humor" isn't black and white, per say.
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I have been apart the FeralHeart for a while to understand this.
Dark Humor such as joking about rape, death, suicide, mental problems people have, etc.
Stop it, now.
It's not funny. Only you and your twisted friends think it's funny and can smile at the joke.
Many people suffer because of many different things. Reality is hard. You may have problems, but they're probably not as big as the problems other people have.
Think about it.
Ebola is fatal and contagious (Not 100% sure, actually).
If severe enough, rape can kill someone.
Suicide is serious, and can happen to your friends. Yes, your friends.
Mental problems can't be controlled.
It's not like these people wished for these things to happen to them, it just happens.
Now, stop.
The dark humor isn't funny. It's called "Dark" for a reason. And some people are sensitive to this "dark humor", as others said with their stories earlier.
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This is, indeed, a very serious matter.
I do not compete to understand upon why people with such a bad sense of dark humor would joke around in this matter.
I, honestly, fear Ebola. I've heard rumors that it it only sixty miles away from me and that it is, in fact, airborne. People do need to rise from the age of three or six and take some things seriously.
When a loved one of theirs has something bad like this happen to them, or it even gets them theirselves..
They'll be thinking it wasn't funny, and wish they never would have said anything.
Not only is it about the disease, it's talking about mental illness, death, suicide, rape, and every other type of terrible thing, as Kai said. I believe some type of punishment should be given out for such things as long as reported correctly to the correct people.
It's a sensitive topic. You had it very well put, Sura.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention.