Feral Heart
Game & Forum Discussion => Game Discussion => Game Suggestions & Ideas => Topic started by: Blush on April 12, 2011, 09:45:36 pm
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Working for a game company in the past and owning a few games myself, these bugs are SO easy to fix, but yet nothing is being done about them. I really like Feral Heart, but some of these bugs make the game impossible to enjoy and in my opinion the game should have never been released in such quality, even in beta.
The first thing is the bug with the groups. Why make a group and recruit members if I am going to have to find all my members over again? My sister and I had a huge group... and not knowing about this bug, didn't save it the rigged way we were "supposed" to. The whole group was deleted and now I have to reinvite all those members. What is the point in having a group then? Especially when they fix the bug, they risk deleting all the groups again. It is easier to just create my own forum and forget using Feral Heart's group system. It is rendered useless right now. It is an easy bug to fix, so save your new members some trouble and fix it. I had to create a forum for my group in order to insure my members don't disappear again. x.x
The next bug is this god awful collision bug. When I am falling through half of the things on the maps... especially at the Temple of Dreams, it gets annoying fast. Especially since I know how simple it is to fix these common collision errors.
And lastly, you never open a game without mods. There are barely any mods in game... but the forum is crawling with them. Why are there barely any in game mods? And half the time, they do nothing. The general chat is often full of cuss words, sexual content, and things that the young children using this website shouldn't see. I am deeply offended by all of the things I see in the chat because it is often young children using ten cuss words per sentence. I want to play the game, not listen to people talk dirty in chat! When mods do say something, obvious repeat offenders are not kicked from chat, ban, or even warned. I had two members harassing me in game the other day and a mod spoke up to say they had been reading everything. Well, for god sakes, do something! Those members were already well aware that mods could read the messages, they needed to be warned and told to back off. But that didn't happen. I was so fed up, I just told the mod I'd block the two members and ignore it. I shouldn't have to deal with that kind of treatment when they were obviously breaking rules and not once warned by the mod who had "read everything".
Yes, I can turn my chat off. But you know what? I shouldn't have to. You should make your members follow the same rules I have to. And reporting them does no good... they get a mild warning from a mod maybe if I am lucky.
Is there someway to apply to be an in game mod? I have the time to help and have helped with games before and it is fairly obviously Feral Heart needs some serious help on some things. I am sure this is because no one is getting paid and it is a small group of devs... but come on, guys, not having mods in a game that appeals to younger players is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
This insanely slow website could be fixed with a simple server upgrade and a simple look for whatever typo is causing "0: cURL Error Message: couldn't connect to host" to show up on pages.
I know this is a huge rant, but I don't know what else to do. I am at my wits end with the issues in the game I have only played about two weeks. These are serious issues that should have been addressed a long time ago. Having barely any mods in game is a safety issue. I really like this game and I want it to succeed... it just makes me mad that such a good idea is wasting away due to simple bugs and member on member abuse.
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You just have to wait, this games only been out about two months and from what i heard, it was overly rushed to get done! If you have groep issues, then you should just stop and wait till the group issue gets fixed instead of complaining about it. I know its frustrating and sometimes we are impaitent, but they are working as hard and as fast as they can!
And with the whole mod deal, i dont think they rp much, i think they work on the game and site more but im not 100% sure on it and the sexual content, and foul language...thats just a part of life. Its the way some people choose to talk. Just ignore it if you can.
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I think the only person who actually does proper work on the game itself is KovuLKD. The mods just watch what's going on ingame. And the game was extremely rushed, people started getting impatient so they threw out this early buggy version. We will just have to wait for the updates.
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Well, it is the game dev's fault it was rushed and they need to realize people leave games like this because of the poor quality and bugs. It was rushed only because Kovu wanted to rush it and allowed too much hype too soon. They don't have a publisher and that is the only true reason for rushing.
I realize cussing is part of life, but it is insane how much goes on in the game. Mods should control it. You are NOT allowed to cuss on Feral Heart, when I signed up, I agreed to that as much as everyone else. It may be part of life, but you agreed to keep it off of Feral heart when you signed up. So, people should control themselves and get a bigger vocabulary. XD
Group issues should be brought up, so they can be fixed. Bottom line.
The truth is, you never know how hard a game dev is working. Any of the games I worked for would have had the collision bug fixed within the first month. Even the ones that were not getting paid. It was understood how big of an issue that is... in fact, they held up release one time because of a bug like that.
The only reason to rush a game is a publisher and there is no publisher for this game. Kovu should have stood firm and said, no, the game isn't ready.
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Just to clear this up, no. The collision is not easy to fix. We didn't have mesh collision in IT and I heard Kov say in a thread that he wrote the script for collisions in FH himself and doesn't know how to perfect it completely. This is gonna take a while to fix.
And you know what? People under 13 shouldn't even be on the Internet. THERE IS A LEGAL AGE TO BE ONLINE and that is 13 and up. So FH can't get in any trouble for having younger players who are having issues with the game.
I do agree that the ingame mods need to be a bit more active though. But that's me.
Cussing, it happens, the best advice I have is get over it or block the people who are excessively cussing. This isn't WolfQuest where we have a filter that blocks out nearly every word in the human dictionary.
-I meant no offense by this post, sorry if you took any of it personally. xD-
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Oh, and waiting for the group bug to be fixed? I aready created a group with many people when I didn't know about the bug... I already created a huge forum for it... it would be a waste of time to now tell everyone, "Oh hey, there is no group now because of a bug." Now, I have to deal with the issue because I didn't know about it. My entire group has to be bothered by it (probably many times) when it would only take one person a couple hours of coding to fix it.
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First off, look on Youtube, there is videos on how to code collision. Collision is a basic part of coding a game... if they don't know how to code collision, how are they going to code half of the other stuff promised?
13 year olds can use the internet. They cannot sign up for multiplayer games. 13 year olds is VERY young. It is a safety issue without mods. I have seen people giving out phone numbers, email addresses, and contact information left and right. People CAN be cyber stalked and kidnapped. It happens every single day and on websites poorly protected like this one. This is dangerous and can have Feral Heart sued. Maybe not for the cussing... but for the lack of protection for its users.
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I am not trying to complain to other members about Feral Heart. I am trying to get mods attention about these issues and Kovu's. If Kovu needs help coding, I know people who can help. I would actually code the whole website over for free and get rid of these bugs in the website. I think they have seriously gotten in over their heads and yes, we have to be paitent, but we have a right to demand more mods for safety reasons. I believe members have a right to be upset because the game should not have been released in this state.
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Cyber stalking can get any game or site in huge trouble, yes. But it happens.. it's not something that can be stopped. I'm sorry to say that and I feel bad about it, but it's true. There are indeed seriously messed up people out there.
If that has seriously been going on in FH, this game can, and probably end up getting in big trouble unless they find a way to manage it better somehow.
The cussing won't get this game sued. It happens everywhere, but the cyber stalking and giving out personal information can. You are very right.
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It is something can be prevented, but people are still going to try. I have to be careful owning websites that people can join also to prevent such a thing from happening. It is terrible, but Feral Heart has very lax rules. Even on my websites, the cussing still happens, but our mods are on them quickly. Our mods go through a long live training on how to use everything and what they are expected to do. Feral heart needs to start taking this stuff seriously before they have thousands of members and the problem only becomes worse. I know from personal experience it will start with cussing and then go onto other things. Much more mature things that children so young should be protected from.
The silly thing is the small issues Feral Heart has can be fixed and the game can be enjoyed while we wait for new upgrades. I am not complaining about stupid things like not having wings, I am complaining about safety issues and things that actually make the game not run properly.
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I see what you mean. But like the others said, the game is still fairly new. So there's going to be bugs everywhere. :p
As for cussing, I see no need for the chat filter. The mods are there to stop it. They are active, btw. I see them around sometimes. But yeah, with the FH community growing, perhaps it could use more mods. But that's me~
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Yeah, I wonder if the mods even have any powers sometimes. I saw one yelling repeatedly at someone an hour or so ago... why not just ban them or give them an official warning instead of fighting with them? >w<
There should be a filter for words that obviously cannot be used in a "nice" way... at least until they get more mods maybe.
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The first thing is the bug with the groups. Why make a group and recruit members if I am going to have to find all my members over again? My sister and I had a huge group... and not knowing about this bug, didn't save it the rigged way we were "supposed" to. The whole group was deleted and now I have to reinvite all those members. What is the point in having a group then? Especially when they fix the bug, they risk deleting all the groups again. It is easier to just create my own forum and forget using Feral Heart's group system. It is rendered useless right now. It is an easy bug to fix, so save your new members some trouble and fix it. I had to create a forum for my group in order to insure my members don't disappear again. x.x
The next bug is this god awful collision bug. When I am falling through half of the things on the maps... especially at the Temple of Dreams, it gets annoying fast. Especially since I know how simple it is to fix these common collision errors.
Kov wanted it to be released on the 1st so he did. (2nd it was actually xD)
These buds are being fixed.
And lastly, you never open a game without mods. There are barely any mods in game... but the forum is crawling with them. Why are there barely any in game mods? And half the time, they do nothing. The general chat is often full of cuss words, sexual content, and things that the young children using this website shouldn't see. I am deeply offended by all of the things I see in the chat because it is often young children using ten cuss words per sentence. I want to play the game, not listen to people talk dirty in chat! When mods do say something, obvious repeat offenders are not kicked from chat, ban, or even warned. I had two members harassing me in game the other day and a mod spoke up to say they had been reading everything. Well, for god sakes, do something! Those members were already well aware that mods could read the messages, they needed to be warned and told to back off. But that didn't happen. I was so fed up, I just told the mod I'd block the two members and ignore it. I shouldn't have to deal with that kind of treatment when they were obviously breaking rules and not once warned by the mod who had "read everything".
As far as I know, there are plenty of mods in game.
I agree the mods in game aren't harsh, but they do their job.
If you see someone being bad ingame, take a screenshot and report it to an admin here.
But yes, opinion respected c:
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I can see both sides of this. Yes the game was rushed to be out and ofcourse we are gonna get bugs, its life and i know the mods and kovu and all of them are working on getting it done. But ido have to agree with Blush. With this group deleting thing i cant stand it anymore, i have posted along with others about it and the simple repsonse is "oh u have to make it a certain way...u have to do the tradition way of logging off and logging on at certain times on certain maps...." Or the worse one that pisses me off the most " Ive never had that problem you must be doing something wrong and i have had my group forever so you must be deleting it or not doing the lingo way of creating a group" Its like WTH!? Why should i have to focus on making the group a certain way and going through all that when in the end IT DIDNT EVEN WORK! and i know i know the mods are working on it, but ive been told that since the beginning. is there anyway to know if its being worked on? I wouldve had 80+ members if it wasnt for the dam thing deleting all the time lol and ive done what blush has. made a forum and website for my members o i dont lose them every time server decides to eat a group. Now dont anyone be upset bout my rant, cuz thats what it is a rant, i just dont know what to do anymore with some bugs and id love to try an help some things for FH. Like i discovered that the white char glitch for my bf ended up being he had to many items on his computer and not much room and whn i cleared his computer POOF suddenly game works.
Collision yes is hella annoying but we all know the glitch way to get out *Hugs PrntScrn button* so i can patiently wait on that one. But other things like the bad token which either kicks me off FH or throws me half across the map on bonfire in the middle of the water *lol is actually funny to me* But annoying all together.
Also lil problem i wouldnt mind fixing on the website besides all the error messages...is the darm Mail problem. I cant recive mail from ppl ,like they can send it to me but ill never get it :\ which sucks because if i do pm a mod which i have i dont know if they responded back XD but i can live with it for now :P
As for mods. omg yes plz we need more!! I know all the bad words sexual or not is life... But is it rly?! i dont think i remember it being allowed in the rules o.O? So why not stop the ppl who do it, i take screenies all the time i report those who cause trouble, and they get a slap on the hand and thats bout it. As for mods, ppl are discovering times they are coming on, i hear ppl say all the time "oh dont worry they dont log on till later tonight" which yes is true at times, i sually dont see them till 10pm my time and by that time im tired of the ppl on game, my Block list is getting full of newbs who dont know proper vocabulary besides swear words. I know ppl get mad at that butt wave but come on get over it its a dance move thats fun and yes those who use it wrong should be punished, it wasnt made for that. But then again maybe we should have solid characters and that would end all the butt humping going on o.o
Im also sorta tired of ppl saying the age limit for internet, hell i was taught computer when i started grade 2 i think (lol old apple computers with green writing ftw!!) either way as this society grows younger and younger kids will be on computers, and despite age limit they should still not have to surcome to games with swearing when it is not allowed, sexual references when told no, and other things that may occur. We cant stop ppl from doing it but we can sure hella try to, i know ill try to stop them and screenie as much as i can. But what im basically saying is AGE LIMIT is NOT the excuse to be used. Rules are rules and they should be followed. If it means some word star blocks like on WQ (not as much as blocking out entire disctionary words)
I am greatful either way that FH is out, that these ppl, mods, creators took theeir own time to make a game for us who all complain whether it was perfect or not. I am no better then anyone. Im glad a game was made out like this, if it bothered ppl so much about the bugs there wouldnt be 300+ ppl on everytime i was on, and the mods and creator at any point could easily shut it down and say ok wait till EVERY bug was fixed. I dont think any of us would like that. So i say, let us all try to be patient whether we are right or wrong. Bugs will be fixed when they are fixed, and mods will be chosen when needed in everyones eyes.
Till then : Hugs report,block buttons. Hugs forum for pack, and gives ear plugs and blinders to the small children who shouldnt see stuff XD SHIELD UR EYES!!
NOTE: No one take offense aight im just stating ma mind :3 and no harm to anyone else if they took offense from me sorry *hugs*
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Missy, the PM glitch is simply because there is probably another account with the exact same name as yours. The forum sends the messages to the account that appears first on the list, because it doesn't know which to send it to. I found that changing my username (I added the star thingies) worked for me, I've been getting all my PM's ever since.
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Missy, the PM glitch is simply because there is probably another account with the exact same name as yours.
See, that SHOULDN'T be a problem. There shouldn't be people with the exact same name. Heck, the forums shouldn't even let you sign up if you use the same name as someone else. Have you SEEN how many 'Krystal's there are? Or 'Luna's? And half of them never even use the forums. I don't know about them in-game, but I'm willing to bet several of them have forgotten they even signed up.
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There are more than one Kyugima because I created my account, but then when I tried to log in it said that the account didn't exist. But I knew it was there because I had activated it. So I had to create an entirely new account. I don't know about other cases, but some of those are probably accounts that can't be accessed.
And I feel you are having a go at me. Don't know why, but I do. I am just trying to help out with the Pm's and You're message feels as if you are having a go at me for something that doesn't even have anything to do with me, I didn't make the forum.
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Half of these website bugs I could fix for Kovu. So, if anyone knows how to contact him, please let me know. The bugs are silly and if he doesn't have time, I can use some of my spare time helping on the website. I've been in website design and coding for seven years now, so if anyone knows how I can contact him, let me know.
The community needs atleast a website that is working properly.
And I don't think Nyla is going at you Kyugima. She is stating her opinion on how we shouldn't have to go through all these hoops for a simple thing like private messaging to work properly. x.x
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KovuLKD doesn't run the webiste. You'll have to get in contact with Rak$ha or one of the mods and find out who does, but I know it's not Kovu. And when you message one of the mods they should be able to pass along a message ti KovuLKD maybe, but he also has an account on the forum, so you could also try sending him a PM.
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And I wasn't saying anything bad about Nyla or anything, I was just saying that was the feeling I got from their message. I understand that it wasn't really meant for me, but I was just saying that's how I felt about it.
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If you really want to bring up these issues and get them noticed I suggest renaming the topic from "complaints" to "suggestions" and maybe instead of ranting bring up your topic and support it. Most of what you brought up are valid points but no one likes being talked down to which is how I feel the tone of your posts are.
Also, 13 is young, but if you're ready to go online and experience what's out there, you better be ready for the shock you're in.
Also, you're not supposed to double post, let alone triple. It takes up the memory of the server that needs to be upgraded.
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Kamaete, you can take my posts as you please. The triple posts were caused by the website, not myself. I was replying to posts as they were put on the website and they were put out of order.
It sounds more like you are talking down to me. I am NOT 13. XD I am much older than that... note how I have been working in web design for seven years.
These are complaints. I have suggestions on how to fix things, but I didn't post them here. If they want my suggestions, they can contact me. Posting the suggested coding on the forum to fix it, probably isn't going to do much good. xD
Complaints should be heard just as much as positive opinions. As a user, I have the right to my opinion and it should be heard because I am faithful user of game. ALL opinions should matter, not just suggestions or someone telling Kovu how to quick fix something. I will send my suggestions to them personally. There is no reason to post suggestions on coding when probably the forum mods wouldn't understand the coding... and neither would the FH members. It would probably never be read either.
Overall, I can post complaints if I wish to. They should be heard as much as positive opinions. I have positive opinions about the game, but everything can be improved. The bugs are annoying and I know everyone wants them fixed. I think the overall the game dev team messed up. As much as bad language is part of the internet, opinions you may not agree with are too.
I assumed Kovu would have to clear me to help on anything related to the game, but I will try to find out more. Thanks Kyugima.
Anyway, before this board turns into a fight and I have the information I need, can a mod please delete or lock this?