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Game & Forum Discussion => Game Discussion => Topic started by: DreamerDay on May 09, 2015, 07:49:13 pm

Title: Gender Tags
Post by: DreamerDay on May 09, 2015, 07:49:13 pm
First off, if no one knows what I'm talking about, you know how some users have the letters M or F to let others *know* what their character gender is? Well, yeah, that is what we're focusing on.

So, let me ask you this. Do you think it's necessary to have those? I thought gender advising was suppose to be in bios, not in the character's name tag. Plus, I thought the name insert was suppose to fill with character's name. I guess I was wrong.

Whenever I see those users(in my POV) with the gender tag, it brings me to conclusion they're considered as the mate beggers...or just people who are just inappropriate.(I can be wrong so dont attack me). you know or know some users, they can take theses to the wrong mind set. Don't get me wrong, I understand mates is one thing your looking for, but I'm not understanding what's the name gender tag is for? I mean, we do have a bio for a reason. Additionally, this causes you you to not  join any group, but be rejected. To be honest, I don't think gender is thing people don't care about,unless your role playing.

Not only that, for example. You see people with 'Roise F Wolf' Now, why add the wolf? Obviously everyone knows that.

Pss...I really want to know who started this.
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: greenart6 on May 09, 2015, 07:57:51 pm
I don't use gender tags in my character names, but I see why people use them, and I used to as well. The gender tags are just a quick, easy way to see a character's gender. Some people don't like to write bios, or may not even know they exist, and there's no written rule that the Character Name slot can only include a character name. The animal name at the end is used for the same reason. A lot of people don't check bios, and I sometimes add the character's species at the end to avoid confusion (mostly for my goat characters), since not every single character is a wolf or a lion.

I don't think you should automatically classify anyone with a tag in their name as a 'matebeggars' or 'inappropriate." The only reason they have tags is just  to have a quick, easy way to know basic information about a character. Having a tag in your name does NOT mean you should judge them.
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: DreamerDay on May 09, 2015, 08:04:49 pm
Quote from: Turtlex on May 09, 2015, 07:57:51 pm
I don't use gender tags in my character names, but I see why people use them, and I used to as well. The gender tags are just a quick, easy way to see a character's gender. Some people don't like to write bios, or may not even know they exist, and there's no written rule that the Character Name slot can only include a character name. The animal name at the end is used for the same reason. A lot of people don't check bios, and I sometimes add the character's species at the end to avoid confusion (mostly for my goat characters), since not every single character is a wolf or a lion.

I don't think you should automatically classify anyone with a tag in their name as a 'matebeggars' or 'inappropriate." The only reason they have tags is just  to have a quick, easy way to know basic information about a character. Having a tag in your name does NOT mean you should judge them.

It wasn't suppose a judgemental way. I'm just saying, in my point of view, I see users do this. But I never said I could be right. It was just an assumption. But okay. Blame it on me.
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: AlphaEclipse on May 09, 2015, 10:31:29 pm
Personally, I've grown to not mind gender tags too much.

Before I stepped foot into Feralheart on my first day of registration, while I was naming my character, I did include a gender tag as a method of character identification without any inappropriate intentions, knowledge of "mate beggars," or information of the game including writable biographies. It was a simple, yet informative way of allowing people to know what gender your character was without having to repeatedly tell others what gender they were.

What was mentioned is another one of Feralheart's common stereotypes, which I personally disagree with. Of course, some users may have questionable, and possibly inappropriate intentions (this can apply for users without gender tags as well!), but most use it as a harmless method of identification for other users. It is almost the equivalent of saying a user who has a group tag in their name enjoys bragging of their title, since they could place that information in their character's biography. As stated previously, not all users like using biographies, or simply doesn't know it exists.

On the other hand, gender tags as well as group tags can be space-consuming; however, I still don't mind them too much, especially if other users find them helpful.

As for "species tags," I understand how people could dislike these (especially since some believe that information should be placed in the biography along with gender), however, like gender tags, they are used as a way if identifying a character's species.
Quote from: DelightfulRevenge on May 09, 2015, 07:49:13 pm
You see people with 'Roise F Wolf' Now, why add the wolf? Obviously everyone knows that.
I'm a bit iffy on this for one main reason. Feralheart, being a game which encourages creativity, will attract users who will make other canine/feline species besides the typical wolf and lion, or other exotic animals such as birds and aquatic animals (to the best of their ability within the limited options available through character creator without presets). Not everyone will have wolf or lion characters, so users may include tags such as (random example) "Rose Hawk." Of course, it may still seem space-consuming to some, but it gets the gender and species across to the user.

So are gender and species tags necessary? Definitely not, but they are a helpful tool for users who need a quick way of character identification. There are pros and cons for each, however in the end, they serve as a straightforward tool that everyone is able to use.

Interesting topic, Dreamer! ;D
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: Yognaught on May 10, 2015, 03:22:33 pm
I think it's absolutely fine to use gender tags, unless it is some way of breaking the rules. ]
We've all used gender tags once at least, and I think it's a fun and good way of displaying your character's gender. I even saw a person with an A gender tag to represent Agender. It was gr8! I'm pretty neutral with them.
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: Rizzla on May 10, 2015, 10:19:19 pm
I was wondering if someone was going to make a thread about this lol

I don't see anything wrong with other people using gender tags, however I do not use them myself.
I used to use them. After all, who here hasn't? They were very common about a year ago, but no one seems to use them anymore. I'm not sure why, perhaps they just went out of style? *Shrug*

I no longer use them because they make me feel "unprofessional" (Is that the word I'm looking for? Who knows), and I think if you have a decent character, you should be able to tell what gender they are. If not, that's what bios are for! They also take up space, and if I have a character with a species tag or a long group tag, I wouldn't have the room anyway.

Speaking of species tags, I only usually only use those for my character of more exotic species. Like basically everyone else has said, not every character on FH is a wolf or a lion, so this is to be expected no matter what.

Aye, gender tags and species tags are not necessary, but that doesn't make it wrong for people to have them.
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: Whisperingwaves on May 10, 2015, 10:23:07 pm
I see a lot of characters with this, I take no mind to it. Personally, it might be alot easier then writing a bio, alot less typing for sure. Showing the species in the name might also be easier. I know if I'm to lazy to write a bio, I'd take the shorter way and make an easier way.

This is just my opinion so o3o

~ Whisper
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: WolfQueen on May 10, 2015, 11:18:32 pm
The gender and species tag takes up space in the name tag and it just makes the character look faulty and bad imo. But if someone uses it I don't really give two kicks.
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: SpringLeaf on May 11, 2015, 12:08:56 am
I only use these if my name is unisex.
Once my group knows what sex my character is, I usually delete the F or M.
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: toasterkitty on May 11, 2015, 04:25:17 pm
i dont really mind them i just see it as a quick and easy way to show a characters gender/species plus not everyone knows how to make/veiw bios (i only found out how to see other peoples bios 3 days ago) i use them quite often the gender tags now with species/breed tags i only use them if i can be bothered to or if im something that people wouldnt exactly know right away so yeah... i just see them as easy ways to see simple information on the character
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: Berrymutt on May 11, 2015, 06:46:23 pm
I see them most of the time and I've always wondered where they came from and why they became a 'trend' inside of FeralHeart. In my defense I'm usually the one who doesn't really mind them or in this case 'care' for them. I mean I see characters that are 'realistic' and can be 'found in the wild' yet the character is named let's make up a name here...'Rosie F Wolf' and it's a black canine with white underfur bright blue eyes and a brightly pink nose. I just..ahh I don't want to be rude or judgmental at all which is why I tend to stay away from them and if they want to make small talk with me then small talk they will get. I have never added Gender or Species tags to my character's names only group tags (Ex. TEC) due to the fact that it's easier to find a group for roleplay/social purposes. Seeing as TEC is more of a social group for me rather than a roleplaying group it's easier for people to find me if they want to be social or maybe roleplay with someone who is in a certain group. Other than that I use the bios given in game to describe my character's gender and or species which is what I have been sticking too. I would really love to know who started this trend and why they started it in their defense I'm actually very curious to find out seeing as I've been playing FeralHeart since the first day it came out back in 2011. Remember that everyone has different opinions on things and there is no right or wrong answers thank you.
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: xXQueenXx on May 11, 2015, 08:58:44 pm
Are we just talking about gender tags here? When I first began to explore different role plays I would hang around on a character I named "Macy The Wolf" and I never thought of it as a tag of sorts, but more of her full name. "The Wolf" to me, was completely necessary because it was her full title... kind of. (I grew out of it and decided just to call her "Macy" though xD) Gender tags on the other hand are a bit different, I will agree with you on that. Though, like others have said before me, I think people are just too lazy to fill in their bios or care to read everyone's. I think you'll also find that the new players who've started to play and interact put the gender tag on their name to find acceptance, unless they're sitting at the mate centre, they're probably just trying to make some friends and join a group. c:


I once saw someone with "F Lioness" on the end of their name. .-. derp.
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: Sandytails on May 11, 2015, 10:43:48 pm
I guess it's useful for when you're typing an rp post, but they haven't told you their character's gender. Other than that, I don't see the use in the tag. Besides, it makes the name look odd :/ I won't mind if people use it, tho.
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: DreamerDay on May 11, 2015, 11:39:07 pm
Added a poll~

Thank you all for your opinions.
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: Owly on May 12, 2015, 02:21:34 pm
I personally don't mind them unless they're kind of showing the 'stereotypical' unrealisticness in their character and posts. I'm like BerryMutt on this, I stay away from them. Since I'm a role play owner. I also don't allow them in my role plays. That is what bios are for. I know most of the previous post talk is from a mapless role play stand point, but to me it's more realistic to have to guess than to see the gender and/or species. Even if they're made up, it's still more interesting to learn. To my own view, most of the gender/species tags are obvious, because most of them make their characters look the gender/species. Of course there are the few where you just can't tell. But then again so has it in real life, and with both humans and animals, you know?

Again, I don't mind what others do to their characters. But I do enforce my role play strict guidelines that I don't allow gender/species tags in my role plays.
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: Lady_Alizarin on May 12, 2015, 08:25:17 pm
I really don't use gender tags in my character names, because I don't think it's really necessary. The only time I use a species tag in the name is when my character is something not many people would recognize, like "unicorn", "dragon", "manticore", "bobcat", "grey fox", "jaguarundi", and so on.
I don't think it's really necessary for people to use gender tags like "M" or "F", because that's what bios are for. And besides, if your character is obviously a lioness then there's no need for "Lisa F Lioness" in the name description. It would be better if it was just "Lisa."
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: Misinterpreted on May 13, 2015, 03:22:15 am
To be honest, it bothers me quite a bit. Especially when their name almost obviously states they are that gender. I guess people like this just want themselves to be noticed as that gender. But there is a blank space in the bio tab so I see no use for the gender tag. But that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: The_Black_Cat on May 15, 2015, 06:46:08 am
I use the gender tags, but only if my character's gender isn't obvious. Clearly if I'm roleplaying as a lion with a mane, my lion is male. But it might not be as clear with some of my other characters, so I use the gender tag. Although I also only use the gender tags for roleplay characters. My fursonas which I use for wandering around FH and chatting when I have nothing else to do, do not have a gender tag because people don't necessarily need to know what my gender is.
I also use the species tags for roleplay characters when the species is not obvious. I don't use it for regular wolves/lions/foxes because those are fairly easy to distinguish. But I also roleplay as ocelots/cheetahs/jaguars/various types of leopards and those can be slightly harder to identify. And I also use tags also for specific types of characters as well as species (such as my demon character).
And regarding bios - I've known about them since I started. However, just as some people don't know about bios or don't use them, I'm sure there's plenty out there who don't bother to check other people's bios.
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: Riggs on May 15, 2015, 09:33:03 am
In my own personal opinion, these things have always bothered me. I have never really liked putting tags into my characters name at ALL. Whether it is for a Roleplay or just to state my characters gender. But I don't really mind if others use it, it's not my character.
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: anahel on May 29, 2015, 01:04:17 am
I don't use them, simply because they look asymmetrical and it bothers me, along with the fact that your bio is definitly the place for that. Names tend to give it away, too. (Although I had a male named Bartholomew who everyone thought was a girl, so...)
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: toasterkitty on May 29, 2015, 06:44:45 pm
Quote from: The_Black_Cat on May 15, 2015, 06:46:08 am
My fursonas which I use for wandering around FH and chatting when I have nothing else to do, do not have a gender tag because people don't necessarily need to know what my gender is.


^^ i do this too as i never use afkinz to roleplay so i never use gender tags for her and its quite obvious shes a cat despite the antlers so no need for species tags and i will just type a few things in the bio also you wouldnt see males running around called afkinz so again gender is quite obvious well i better shut up before this gets longer than it was ment to be
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: Jango_Fett on May 29, 2015, 06:53:19 pm
I have seen many a fight over this, which leaves me like:
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I am true-blue neutral on this, as they don't bother me, and I don't have much of a use for them.
They're fine, and don't ruin anything for me.
Title: Re: Gender Tags
Post by: shayy on May 29, 2015, 08:13:48 pm
I think its fine for people to add gender tags or other tags. Its just extra information and I think it sort of makes it easier to rp with a few people who's characters/names don't show their gender. Also , like Sagitta said, FH encourages people to me creative and explore their imagination, so everyone is not just a wolf/lion.