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Title: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: Riggs on May 15, 2015, 09:43:45 am
What is YOUR opinion on calling other users noobs?

[ Just venting and asking for an Opinion! ] 

     To be honest, in my opinion I think it's wrong to call other users noobs because they don't look exactly like one of your characters. Feralheart is made for you to customize your own character, and must I repeat this YOUR OWN character. These characters can be neon red, green, whatever color. Just because they are more vibrant than you doesn't make them a 'sparkle tard' or a 'noob'. They're allowed to look however they want. Then others get called noobs because they haven't been playing for 4-5 years, I don't really think it matters for however long you have been playing Feralheart. I don't think it gives you the right to call someone a noob just for that.

 
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: xXQueenXx on May 15, 2015, 10:19:35 am
Literates = People
Illiterates = People
Realistic Characters = People
Unrealistic Characters = People
Sparkle Characters = People
New members = People
Old members = People
Moderators = People
Admins = People
Mate Centers = People
Adoption Centers = People
Human Characters = People
American Players = People
Foreign Players = People
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/6ebec10fc95337f3368bed43aeb3d5e5/tumblr_inline_nnw5lzD6bD1roo8c3_500.gif)
The only time I use the word "noob" is when i'm referring to myself.
However, I don't think it's always used in an offensive manner. I think when reporting/defending people we should always look at the context of it. My friend use to call me a "newbie" as a joke and through text I can understand why someone would see that as an insult.
(To me, it obviously wasn't.)
Technically speaking, I don't think "Noob" qualifies as "offensive language". But you're right, if insulted with it, it can be very offensive indeed.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: Hooli on May 15, 2015, 12:13:05 pm
*loud squealing 'cause my post was quoted*

Aye, the term 'noob' angers me to the point of screaming. It's rude and is probably even considered a form of bullying, since it's name-calling. To me, the term 'noob' is mostly always negative, seeing as the only time I ever see it used is when people are making fun of someone for not knowing something about the game or something in general. However people can make fun at the term with their friends and yes it can be pretty harmless for a lot of people, but I do know of a couple many people on the game who don't take lightly to be called a 'noob'. As my quote above states, we're all people, we're all the same, so there shouldn't be any name calling or difference between anyone within FeralHeart.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: Yognaught on May 15, 2015, 03:46:04 pm
This is a topic I am very passionate about. slams fists on table

No, I really don't think it's apprioprate to call other's 'noobs' because their character is a little bit more sparkly than the average flurito literates, or they don't talk with exceptional grammar, or even haven't been playing for that long. Whenever I see people use it in an offensive context, I will literally flip out because 1. It's rude 2. It should never be used to describe someone. Ever. I've known a few people to actually get upset of the term because a few stuck-up 9 year olds decided it'd be great to insult their sparkle-character with the term. It's actually sometimes cringe-worthy when people overuse 'noob, and extremely unnecessary tbh.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: Berrymutt on May 15, 2015, 06:55:37 pm
Then others get called noobs because they haven't been playing for 4-5 years, I don't really think it matters for however long you have been playing Feralheart.

Hmm well the term ''noob'' is 'derp speak' or 'dumb talk' for ''newbie'' which means someone who just joined the game so technically those who just joined the game are considered to be new players or what some might call ''noobs''. If people are calling each other noobs and having a laugh over it, it seems fine to me no harm done just some crazy kids enjoying their time on the game. However when someone takes it as offensive (Even though the word itself isn't offensive) or does NOT want to be called or labeled as a ''noob'' then I would cut it out because it's not right to call someone something that they don't want to be called ya'know? Other than that I really have no side to lean on, on this topic for those who don't mind being called ''noobs'' and them and their friends enjoy calling each other by that name then that's cool you can do that. It turns into something uncool and negative is when someone calls another someone a ''noob'' even though they know that someone does not want to be called a ''noob''.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: Echoing harmony on May 15, 2015, 08:37:47 pm
Hmm, I don't have an opinion on it. I use to call people noobs before I became mature on the internet. What I can say is the term 'Noob' comes from people who are inmature on the internet. Most of the time at least. But still, I just let people have their opinion, I still personally have no opinion on it, except it can be used repetitive with trolling and sometimes is un-called for.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: Owly on May 15, 2015, 09:54:34 pm
In no way shape or form should someone call another a noob. I mean, if you're friends, then it's obviously okay to do so. However, to someone who you don't know personally, or even because they look, type, or act differently than you makes no difference.
I don't see too much of it where I linger much anymore, but I used to be big on telling them not to call people that.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: The_Black_Cat on May 16, 2015, 02:29:22 am
I haven't been playing FH for that long, but I wouldn't be very pleased if someone other than a friend called me a noob. To me there is a difference between "newbie" and "noob". In my eyes "newbie" just means someone who hasn't been around for very long and I don't really see people using it in a negative context. But "noob", outside of friend situations, is almost always used condescendingly, and it kind of sends the message "I'm better than you, which means I can call you whatever I want". If you call me a noob because I'm not as perfect as you, you don't offend me, but I see you as shallow and immature.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: unseelie on May 16, 2015, 01:22:53 pm
Hmm...In my opinion I think it's really wrong to call other players "noobs."
 FeralHeart at the first - friendly game.
People that playing in this game can be 9 or 20 years old,  it's no matter actually. But I seen a lot of people who calls others "noobs."

  "Noobs" can be those types of people who new or have just colourful character, or kids that 8 or 9 years old.
 Anyway it's wrong to call them "noobs" 'cause we must to remember that FH it' s at first friendly
game.

 
 For example: I have my best friend in FeralHeart. I met her in Ficho,  others players calls her "noob".  It's was really wrong,  'cause she was good and really nice.  
One trouble was when I start to protect her... Others start to call me "noob" too,  but I'm never mind.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: WolfQueen on May 17, 2015, 12:24:19 am
If you are actually completely serious about calling someone a noob on FeralHeart I will feel sorry for you LOL.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: LordSuragaha on May 18, 2015, 12:43:43 am
I've never liked the term "noob". Given my extensive background with game communities I've only seen bad come from calling people noobs. Most of the time people are quite rude about how they address new comers and automatically label them a noob. Given how many treat new comers it's easy to see why the name noob would come off as negative since new comers are often laughed at or shamed for their lack of experience. The moment someone is called a noob they are almost immediately stigmatized. i strongly believe that the noob title is unnecessary and usually just an older user's way of being a snob about their experience. Whether the new user be in FH's community or any other they're just a player and deserve as much respect as any other user. The moment labels are given communities start to spiral down into an immature cycle... It literally becomes grade school with the name calling and groups.

Its the same thing with "literates" and "illiterates"

It's just immature
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: Warriorstrike on June 01, 2015, 07:23:20 pm
By labelling someone as a "noob," you're basically debasing them as far as a respecting manner. Just because somebody new doesn't know how the roleplays work, might be younger, and they're character is slightly more glitter-filled than yours does not mean you can call them names, hence labelling them, "noob."

I've seen a close group of buddies or two call each other noobs, but it's just in a joking manner. They're not really into it to be mean or offensive, they're just playing around. I suppose it's easier to call each other a "noob" than saying, "you're a newbie."

Personally, I've never become friends with anyone who uses the term, "noob," because I find it disrespecting and it shows more about the person calling the victim the name than it does the victim being labelled as a "noob."

When I see people name-calling, they're either goofing around with their friends, or they're (not necessarily intentionally) hurting someone feelings. I think especially for some of the younger players, they don't understand (maybe I'm wrong. I've had a few experiences with this, and the victims had no idea what they did wrong) why they're a being called a "noob," and they certainly wouldn't understand why the name-caller is better than them. Why? Because they're not. But it appears to me that when someone calls someone else a "noob," it emits the impression that the name-caller thinks they're better, more educated, higher-ranking, ect, ect...

It's possible people just think that by calling someone a "noob," it makes it easier to label them. "Noob" could mean a sparkledog/glittercat (colorful), illiterate, ignorant, newbie who lacks experience and is easily taken advantage of, all in one person. Some people seem to think it's easier to give them a "fitting title" than to just call them a newbie. But this is just personal experience, so maybe I'm wrong. Hey, I can't speak for all name-callers.

Anyways, I think it's disrespectful and rude. No one should be name-called. Of course, there's not much we can do about it because it's the Internet. But to answer your question/opinion, No, I don't think anyone should be called a "noob."
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: Arkayy on June 01, 2015, 09:30:19 pm
Honestly i really don't think theres a such thing as noobs on fh. On most mmos, this normally refers to those whole struggle to find there way around and quite frankly its SUPER easy to navigate feralheart. The only way i can really see this is if someone doesnt know how to use the chat maybe? But that's about it.

 Anyone calling them noobs are being inconsiderate pricks really. The game has a lot of customization for a reason. Why try to stipple creativity? Ive used neon characters before just for fun, doesn't mean I'm a noob. Just means i'm personally weird for wanting to make my character a rainbow. Its perfectly ok to dislike a character design, but dont call the person uncreative just because something is beautiful in there eyes.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: Warriorstrike on June 01, 2015, 09:38:09 pm
dont call the person uncreative just because something is beautiful in there eyes.

Just felt like quoting this.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: shayy on June 01, 2015, 10:38:39 pm
In no way shape or form should someone call another a noob. I mean, if you're friends, then it's obviously okay to do so. However, to someone who you don't know personally, or even because they look, type, or act differently than you makes no difference.
I don't see too much of it where I linger much anymore, but I used to be big on telling them not to call people that.
I completely agree Owly, you have no right to put someone down because of the way to look or act. Thats their business not yours. Unless its your friend of course and your just playing around and having some laughs :)
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: xanxiety on June 05, 2015, 09:20:56 am
I'm not too big of a fan on the word noob, I find it hurtful. I only use it when referring to myself, or when I playfully call my friends a noob.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: Jackkdaw on June 05, 2015, 10:46:33 am
I think calling fellow floofs noobs can be hurtful and disrespectful, as mentioned above.
This is a community that, I would assume, welcomes everybody, especially new players- which we should
Calling people names like that is quite frankly a form of cyber bullying, which we have zero tollerance for.
It can even drive newcomers away.

I only use the term when referring to myself or using it on a close friend.
one should never call a player they don't know a noob.
It all comes down to maturity if you really think about it.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: Zoeferet on June 05, 2015, 01:05:09 pm
I think it is wrong. When I first joined a year ago people called me a noob and I absolutely hated it.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: Lady_Alizarin on June 05, 2015, 05:00:07 pm
I really don't like the term "noob", so I don't really like seeing someone call someone else a noob. It's very disrespectful and downright uncalled for. The person you just called a "noob" is more than likely new/inexperienced, and looking for friends to talk to and play with. But now you've just discouraged then from ever logging onto the game anymore, and they will go around other websites and say, "Feral Heart is a mean community filled with heartless people. I would not recommend joining this game!" Trust me, I've seen those kind of messages before. What does that tell you?
So I say that it's not right to call someone a noob.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: Wyldercat on June 06, 2015, 07:01:43 pm
I must agree with the preceding floofs.

"Noob calling" is not only disrespectful, but it's also completely unnecessary. So what if someone is new and inexperienced. Everyone was at that stage at sometime. In fact, this may just be a coincidence, but most of the noob-callers I've seen were fairly new themselves.
There's not an ounce of decency in abusing ANYONE from simply being new to a community.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: .Sasha. on June 07, 2015, 12:06:45 pm
I can only agree with the above comments, not a fan of it.
Just yesterday someone called me noob over and over again, I've been playing the game since 2011 or '12, just because I asked if blocking a person also stops them from seeing me. I rarely block people, and this was about my abuser so sorry for asking, wow.
Seriously, it's nowhere stated after what period of time one is a 'full/old member' so there's also no need to call people who are new 'noobs'.
In fact, if someone's new, askes a question about the game, needs help, people should help and not call someone out for beeing new.

Asides from that i really love the quote of Hooli which was posted here. We're all just people who want to play this game, no need to call someone out for the period of time they are here, the way they decide to build their characters, their fandoms or anything else.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: xmapleleafx on June 07, 2015, 02:55:43 pm
To be honest, the term noob basically means newbie, but it's a very slang and unpolite word to use. It can make people feel unwelcome and less important. Usually, people who use the word noob are very rude - sometimes people can use the word without knowing. Everyone starts as a newbie at first, then we develop new skills and learn more when you get into what you are doing. Next time you call someone noob, just remember, you want people to feel welcome but by calling them noobs will probably encourage them to call others noob, and it will spread, a lot of feelings will be hurt.  ;)
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: PandyBlue on June 07, 2015, 03:12:55 pm
Everyone has their own style and just because it's not like yours doesn't mean they're lesser than yourself. I take high offense from anyone calling people noobs, even if it's not directed at me.

Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: KatanaWolf on June 07, 2015, 05:35:48 pm
I'm not all for calling people noobs. To me it just seems rude to call a person a noob just because they don't know the game well. They are newbies for a reason and it's cause their new. If more older players help out newbies instead of flat out thinking their below them, their wouldn't be as big of a problem.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: Kitten Irvyne on June 07, 2015, 11:34:52 pm
I believe that the word "noob" is very wrongly used. Where it was originally created on some forum or game somewhere over the rainbow, it was a term used to describe someone new to the game or forum. Now, the use of noob has spiralled far from the innocent use of describing a new player. It has become an insult, in some cases. Lots of people, to their credit, do only use it in the best of intentions, but a larger percentage don't. This is what constantly spins my head -- since when was it so bad to be new to something?

Noob, I've now noticed, is also used to describe people who aren't as strict on grammar, or, as some more stuck-up people like to call, "illiterate". Um, yeah, about that. I'd call myself a noob/newbie/newb simply because I'm new to the game and still getting the hang of things, but *flails* I'm not an "illiterate idiot". I guess -- actually, I know -- what I'm trying to say is that, even though the word's original use wasn't offensive, it certainly is now, by most people.

HOWEVER, I am not pointing fingers at anyone! Don't jump the gun just yet... Actually, just don't jump the gun.

I've also noticed that, along with people who don't find English to be their strongpoint (I know they're commonly made fun of, but give them a break - they're trying!), neons are often referred to as noobs, though, what people mean is that they are illiterate. This is absolutely appalling. The use of noob now, as far as my observation, is just to describe people who aren't very good at English, considering that that is the language most used in this game, though there are people who speak different languages (such as in the Cape...I, personally, love seeing the different languages being spoken. It gives the game a sense of comforting diverseness).

Yeah, I know I ranted a bit there... Sorry, not sorry. Long story short; I dislike the use of noob when it is meant to offend, which, more often than not now, it is.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: jay warfang on June 11, 2015, 02:42:20 am
Okay first off let me say that I think that separating players of any game by how long they've played the game is wrong. If someone is new you don't assume (if you're a reasonable person) their a idiot and bash on the for being new, you show them the ropes! If we wan't to continue growing as a community then we cannot be toxic towards new  players under any circumstance rather it is our responsibility and privilege to be kind and do what we can to help newer players settle in. I personally always try to help out if someone asks for my assistance regardless of how long they've been involved with the matters at hand.

Secondly allow me to say that most people who use the terminology "Noob" seriously, tend to be some of the most toxic, angry people I've ever had contact with. In my personal experience they also tend to be some of the most self-entitled, pretentious bigots I've had the (questionable) honour of knowing. People who think that time invested in something makes them better than others likely don't have much else going for them and therefore attach themselves to whatever little thing they do have and are just kind of jerks about it.

As my third point I shall say that I personally never really understood the whole idea of calling out other people for being new at something. The way I see it we were all new to whatever at some point and are constantly being part of new experiences therefore we are not the same people day to day. The idea of the constantly changing self was a idea I first came across in my art 10, my teacher (one Mr, Senner) said that sometimes when you start a piece and leave it to another day when you pick it up again you'll have no idea what you were doing nor what you planned to do since you are a new person. To finish what I'm saying here we are all "noobs" in a sense.

I hope that nothing I have said here upset anyone if I have it was not my intention and I am sorry.   
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: Sandytails on June 13, 2015, 01:34:57 pm
The word "noob" immediately reminds me of my 12 year old self -shudders- hhh

I still use it ironically, tho. But I just can't take the word seriously anymore.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: LovieHats on June 13, 2015, 03:03:19 pm
I don't really see the point of it. Instead of calling them that, why not help them? That way, they can improve.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: Whinp on June 14, 2015, 02:32:27 pm
Eh. In my dictionary, a noob is someone that is new to a game but refuses on improving, and instead goes for cheap and easy methods. For example, spamming buttons at random on a fighting game.
Newbie is someone that's new to that game and wans to improve.

I think it is offensive for some people, but for me it isn't. Well, most cases where I've been called a noob (and last time I was called seriously was in 2012 I believe) I really didn't offend myself. I like to call noob to my close friends to joke.

But when you're with someone else there is absolutely NO reason to call someone a noob. Especially on FH. You're supposed to have fun, RP and things, not to get competitive.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: CryptidBeast on June 15, 2015, 03:14:06 pm
I despise the word to a great extent, quite honestly.

These 'noobs' or new members haven't grasped the full concept of the character creator or anything with grammar? It's me and my friend's thought, but in all honestly, why put a label on people when you haven't gotten to know a single thing about them? Not everybody knows the 'secrets' to FeralHeart's character creator, they can't make a character that has the looks of ones character. As the person with the 'newbie-copier-stolen' character gets screamed at for looking like them. Unless it's the 0 0 0 people who make characters as such to be 'liked' for their character. But heck, even that's no reason to give someone the label of noob. It's popular; always has been, probably always will be. I myself quite like the characters with that appearance, I don't know why, I just do.
And on grammar? Does it really matter how a person types when not roleplaying or whatever? I've seen someone, the one you'd call 'noob', say: 'ur a strange person u know' Then one of the people who has been sitting and doing nothing goes: 'You can't even spell, you're stupid.' Later on they go ranting about how much they hate noobs. Honestly, give them a break! They're called NEW MEMBERS for a reason.


But that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: FizzyPaws on June 15, 2015, 04:49:45 pm
To me, the word noob, and the word newb are two completely different things. It is certainly not a nice thing to call someone a noob because they are not grammatically correct 24/7. Several of my friends (outside the game) have a hard time following the rules of grammar exactly perfectly! Of course, there are children playing this game, and my sister and I are some of them. My sister, when she comes over to my house, is constantly asking me how to spell things, and do I call her a noob for it? No. Having a sparklesona is not a bad thing either. My fursona, Fizzy, has rainbow arms for Gog's sake! Anyway, coming from a fandom where creativity is encouraged, I enjoy sparkles. If anything they are the opposite of noobs! They are more creative than those making realistic characters. Not that realism is bad, it's just not as creative. There are pros and cons of both.

The word noob means something bad to me, as playing Roblox two years ago, I was called a noob a lot because I didn't know how to play, and I died a lot. It's really a sad thing to see cyber bullying.
Title: Re: Your opinion on calling people 'noobs'?
Post by: StarrieNova on June 17, 2015, 09:12:17 pm
In all honesty I dislike seeing others being called noobs. It's inappropriate to call someone that since it does cause harm to another's feelings. Though if used jokingly with friends who would understand your joke it's alright, but I still don't really like seeing people say things like that.