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Title: Gay Marriage
Post by: kahara on April 15, 2011, 03:09:10 pm
DO NOT TURN THIS INTO A RELIGIOUS DEBATE.
THANK YOU.


Respectfully, I ask you all to be mature about this. I'm trust the community here as I trusted my own with this sort of topic. Many thanks! ~

"I respect religion, if religion respects me."

So, let me get this straight...Charlie Sheen can make a "porn family", Kelsey Grammar can end a 15 year marriage over the phone, Larry King can be on divorce #9, Britney Spears had a 55 hour marriage, Jesse James and Tiger Woods, while married, were having sex with EVERYONE. Yet, the idea of same-sex marriage is going to destroy the institution of marriage? Really? Re-post if you are proud to support equal rights.

Gay right; I'm not just talking about marriage, I'm talking about everything, from hate crimes to adopting children to getting married. Sometimes two men can't rent an apartment together because it only has one bedroom, and how many times has a couple been turned down to adopt a child who needs parents who would care for and love them? And obviously, why not let them get married? We've proven that heterosexuals have ruined the sanctity of marriage, how could two people who love each other ruin it even more? I think it would just make it better.

And hate crimes, why? What did they do to you? I've heard of so many young men dying because they were gay. And not just by murder, but by suicide some young men and women for that matter, cannot get over the amount of abuse laid on them so they take their own life. A life that could be out doing good for the world, gone because of some idiotic people.

And in some countries, being a homosexual is illegal, yes illegal. In some countries it goes as far as the death sentence for homosexual acts, how is that justified?

I do not care if you're homophobic or if you're gay, I wish to hear your thoughts. If you wish to tell us you are, go ahead, please do not feel forced to admitting it. But please, do not use pejoratives or slanderous remarks such as fag or homo towards anyone. This isn't about who is gay and who isn't, it's about why they can't be like any other human being.

Are you for or against gay marriage?
Does it ruin the sanctity or marriage?
Should gay couples be able to raise children?
Should people committing hate crimes towards gay people get harsher punishments?
Should the U.S. military keep 'don't ask don't tell' ? - Note; 'Don't ask, don't tell' was repealed but laws can always be changed. Also, a lot of people in the military are still going by it out of fear. If you answer that question, take that into consideration.
And should being homosexual be illegal?


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My reply;

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Are you for or against gay marriage?

I'm all for it. I don't see why a homosexual couple should not be entitled to the same treatment when it comes to marriage as a heterosexual couple. I also see absolutely no reason as to why it shouldn't also be called a marriage. Why the big fuss? It should not matter what it is called. Anyone willing to throw up a fit about that kind of thing is.. well.. being childish.

A 'civil union' is what a homosexual 'marriage' is called, apparently, and I find that.. well, wrong honestly. What ever happened to (attempting) fair treatment of all human beings, hmm? / sigh

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Does it ruin the sanctity or marriage?

Absolutely not! I find such a thought absolutely ridiculous. ;/

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Should gay couples be able to raise children?[/color]

Hmm, well, as long as they are caring, loving, and capable of doing so, I see no reason not to. Although I've mixed feelings about this. Homosexual couples who intend on forcing homosexuality onto their children isn't exactly fitting. Just as a heterosexual couple forcing heterosexuality onto their children is not fitting either.

So, in the end, I really say why not? They, too, can love, care, and provide for a child just as a heterosexual person may.

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Should people committing hate crimes towards gay people get harsher punishments?

I'm not clear with what the current punishments really are, to be honest. However, I think that whatever the punishment is for a hate crime committed against a heterosexual person is, should be the same if done to a homosexual person.

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Should the U.S. military keep 'don't ask don't tell' ?

This was, as said, repealed. Which I fully support and it should stay as such.

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And should being homosexual be illegal?

Absolutely not.

Now.. respectfully, I myself am bisexual. I'm very opened minded about things, which is probably why I'm so lose about such topics. Well, lose from a open minded point of view anyway. ~ :3
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: Kamaete on April 15, 2011, 03:49:53 pm
My reply;

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Are you for or against gay marriage?
For.  100% for.  I'm not one for marriage in general, but if two people want to tie their lives "forever" like that than who am I to say it's wrong?  

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Does it ruin the sanctity of marriage?
There is no sanctity in marriage. How can a homosexual marriage ruin that?

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Should gay couples be able to raise children?
Yes.  There might be some problems, but there are problems in any family.  Of course, there are people of every sexuality, religion, nationality and etc who shouldn't be able to adopt children because of certain qualities they posess (psychopath, sociopath, extremely irresponsible, etc, etc) but in general terms everyone should be able to adopt and raise a child.

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Should people committing hate crimes towards gay people get harsher punishments?
People committing hate crimes all need equal punishments.  Someone committing a hate crime because of sexuality, race, religion and/or gender should all be punished the same.

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Should the U.S. military keep 'don't ask don't tell' ?
I don't even know what this is. D:

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And should being homosexual be illegal?

No.


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Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: Tigg on April 15, 2011, 03:51:50 pm
Since this concerned me directly:

1. Well sure let them marriage, why not, wheres the Problem? They love each other, nothing else matters.

2. Ruin? Why? They can hold their marriage like everyone else, honor it like everyone else.

3. If they are good Parents, yes, why not. I know someone who got raised by two Fathers. And hes not gay if you ask this! Gay peeps can be as lovegiving parents as anyone else.

4. I see this as racist-crime. They should get the same punishment as others too. Hate against gays is nothing else than as example hate against other minorities or foreeigners (racists basicly). (Sorry for bad english)

5. Dont really understand this. In Germany you can be in the millitary and be gay, that wont change anything.

6. Illegal? xDDD Oh my why should that be illegal? Love is Love, no matter what gender the other one has you love!


So far my statement :)
Im not going to discuss any of my statements!
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: Kyugima on April 15, 2011, 03:53:47 pm
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Are you for or against gay marriage?
 Of course I am all for gay marriage. I see no reason at all why one loving couple can get married and the other can't. It shouldn't matter that one couple is same sex and the other isn't, in my eyes that is just prejudiced.

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Does it ruin the sanctity of marriage?
 We have ruined it enough as it is, so I think this question isn't really on that should be here, because these days there is no sanctity anymore.

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Should gay couples be able to raise children?

If a single mother can raise five children perfectly fine on here own, then I see no reason why a couple can not raise children. As said above, does it really matter if they are same sex or not? I don't think so, all couples are couples in my eyes.

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Should people committing hate crimes towards gay people get harsher punishments?

Now, I don't think that hate crimes towards gay's has a softer punishment than hate towards any one else, after all, isn't this all about equality? Everyone needs to be treated the same.

Should the U.S. military keep 'don't ask don't tell' ? - Note; 'Don't ask, don't tell' was repealed but laws can always be changed. Also, a lot of people in the military are still going by it out of fear. If you answer that question, take that into consideration.

Well, I have no idea what this don't ask don't tell policy thing is, so I can't put any input about it...

And should being homosexual be illegal?

NO! That's like saying it is illegal to be asian, or african, or jewish, or short! You can not make being gay illegal, it is just wrong to say that those who are gay are commiting an illegal act justt by being themself!

Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: Rak$ha on April 15, 2011, 04:10:45 pm
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Are you for or against gay marriage?

Why the hell not? lol. I'm not straight myself, if I end up with a girl or stick with the one i'm with, i'm gonna wanna ask her to marry me one day.
Like the lady did on the news, "I wanna ask my girlfriend to marry me, not civil union me" xD

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Does it ruin the sanctity or marriage?

No way lol

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Should gay couples be able to raise children?

I dislike children.. But that's not the reason i'm not all for it lol.
It'd be okay if the child was adopted and was asked "Would you like to have two mothers or two fathers and not one of both?"
But other than that, i'm not very fond of this idea lol.

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Should people committing hate crimes towards gay people get harsher punishments?

Same amount as if they were throwing hate at a hetrosexual.

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Should the U.S. military keep 'don't ask don't tell' ?

What?oO

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And should being homosexual be illegal?

NU ;w;
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: Liekos on April 15, 2011, 04:23:53 pm
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Are you for or against gay marriage?

For, absolutely. Like everyone else said, they love each other and they're happy, no problemo.

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Does it ruin the sanctity or marriage?

No. Don't really know what sanctity is. But if they're happy then should be no problems in the marriage xD

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Should gay couples be able to raise children?

Of course! Gay couples should be able to adopt/raise children,
they're capable and are no different when it comes being wonderful parents as every other.

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Should people committing hate crimes towards gay people get harsher punishments?

Erm, not really, no. It'll be like, "You killed a man, 10 years! He was also a homosexual, ANOTHER 3 YEARS, RAWR!"
uhuh.
O.O

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Should the U.S. military keep 'don't ask don't tell' ?

Derno what that is D:

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And should being homosexual be illegal?

NO! WHAT ON EARTH, LOL
Totally agreeing with Kyu, cause i'm asian ^^
but yeah, no it should not be illegal!
they probably get enough crap as it is,
So no.

:3
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: Solvic on April 15, 2011, 04:25:26 pm
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Are you for or against gay marriage?

Well. I'm 100% for gay marriage, true I'm not homosexual or bisexual myself. But why shouldn't two men or woman get married? Nothings wrong with it, all that matters is they love eachother and they want to have an commited relationship.

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Does it ruin the sanctity or marriage?

Of course not! They arent any sanctity in marriages anyway. So why would a homosexual couple ruin that?.

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Should gay couples be able to raise children?

Yes, of course. As long as they're good parents, why shouldn't they?.

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Should people committing hate crimes towards gay people get harsher punishments?

Same as people get comitting a hate crime towards a hetrosexual.

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Should the U.S. military keep 'don't ask don't tell' ?

Wait, what? owo

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And should being homosexual be illegal?

No.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: Kamaete on April 15, 2011, 04:28:36 pm
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Should people committing hate crimes towards gay people get harsher punishments?

Erm, not really, no. It'll be like, "You killed a man, 10 years! He was also a homosexual, ANOTHER 3 YEARS, RAWR!"
uhuh.
O.O

^This.  Exactly what I was getting at in my post.  Plus an extra lol, even though it's dark humor.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: kahara on April 15, 2011, 04:36:37 pm
Don't Ask, Don't Tell Information (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_ask,_don't_tell)

However as stated, it has been repealed, which means the law was changed.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: ColonelHamilton on April 15, 2011, 05:33:43 pm
Hate criime laws aren't about giving people harsher sentences for hurting homosexuals. They are about punishing people who are intentionally terrorizing a vulnerable community. Attacking heterosexuals because they are heterosexual is almost unheard of, but people are attacked for being or seeming to be gay. Attacking a gay person for their homosexuality is a hate crime; doing so to mug them is run of the mill assault.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: Kamaete on April 15, 2011, 06:55:36 pm
Probably a bad example, but change the man to a... say... African, Jewish or Mexican man and then you get the idea?  All hate crimes should be punished equally with no offense being higher.  If you terrorize an African person you get the same sentence you would if you terrorized a homosexual person. Sorry for the un-clear-ness.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: GemWolf on April 15, 2011, 07:37:17 pm
1. Are you for or against gay marriage?
100% for it. I see nothing wrong with gay marriage.

2. Does it ruin the sanctity or marriage?
Not at all.

3. Should gay couples be able to raise children?
YES! Of course they should! Everyone should be allowed to.

4. Should people committing hate crimes towards gay people get harsher punishments?
Crime is crime. The punishment should not be any less of a punishment even if it was a homosexual.

5. Should the U.S. military keep 'don't ask don't tell' ? - Note; 'Don't ask, don't tell' was repealed but laws can always be changed. Also, a lot of people in the military are still going by it out of fear. If you answer that question, take that into consideration.
I don't think they should... But that's me. And I didn't really understand it. xD

6. And should being homosexual be illegal?
NO. That's just not right. I see nothing wrong with being homosexual. Love is love, no matter who you fall for.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: Spring on April 15, 2011, 08:09:57 pm
1. Are you for or against gay marriage?
Not in the slightest, I'm straight, but I think that male or female, gay or straight, black, white, blue or pink anyone who wants to express love for each other by means of a marriage have the right.

2. Does it ruin the sanctity or marriage?
Not in any way shape or form.

3. Should gay couples be able to raise children?
Definitely!!! Being homosexual should have no effect on people being able to raise children. (In fact I want my best friend's mum's gay friend to be my dad -no offence to my dad of course-)

4. Should people committing hate crimes towards gay people get harsher punishments?
It shouldn't affect who does the crime, a crime is a crime and the punishments shouldn't change because of who did it or who the victim was.

5. Should the U.S. military keep 'don't ask don't tell' ? - Note; 'Don't ask, don't tell' was repealed but laws can always be changed. Also, a lot of people in the military are still going by it out of fear. If you answer that question, take that into consideration.
I don't really understand this. >.<

6. And should being homosexual be illegal?
A COMPLETE AND UTTER NO! I think this is just awful, anyone should have the right to love anyone else, no matter who they are, what they believe, what they look like or what their gender is.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: Sylph on April 15, 2011, 08:26:43 pm
Are you for or against gay marriage?
For! 100% for for for. Any who are in love deserve to get married. They deserve equal rights just as anyone else in the world.

Does it ruin the sanctity or marriage?
Definitely not.

Should gay couples be able to raise children?
Of course! There are plenty of children who need homes out there! Why leave them with no proper living condition just because of someone's preferences?

Should people committing hate crimes towards gay people get harsher punishments?
They deserve the death penalty. 'Nuff said.

Should the U.S. military keep 'don't ask don't tell' ? - Note; 'Don't ask, don't tell' was repealed but laws can always be changed. Also, a lot of people in the military are still going by it out of fear. If you answer that question, take that into consideration.
I don't get it. :/

And should being homosexual be illegal?
NO. Definitely not. Just because someone is different doesn't mean they should be treated like this.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: owenater1000 on April 16, 2011, 12:27:40 am
Are you for or against gay marriage?
Do what you want people!

Does it ruin the sanctity or marriage?
NO!

Should gay couples be able to raise children?
As long as they WILL raise the child! At least the kid can have a nice home

Should people committing hate crimes towards gay people get harsher punishments?
If it is harsher for someone making a hate crime against homosexuals then its almost like saying "Hate crime against an African - 5 years. Hate crime against a Homosexual - 10 years." Just by saying "hate crimes against homosexuals should be punished harsher" you are making a wrong point!

Should the U.S. military keep 'don't ask don't tell' ?
IDK!

And should being homosexual be illegal?
Do whatever you want! As long as they are not causing trouble its OK!

(No one twist my words and make me sound Homophobic Please!)
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: TealSkeletore on April 16, 2011, 12:44:13 am
Are you for or against gay marriage? AGAINST. RAAEEG
Does it ruin the sanctity or marriage?  YEESSS
Should gay couples be able to raise children? NOOOOO
Should people committing hate crimes towards gay people get harsher punishments? NOOO
Should the U.S. military keep 'don't ask don't tell' YEEEESS
And should being homosexual be illegal? YEEEESSS

If you can't tell, I'm joking. XDD
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: owenater1000 on April 16, 2011, 02:19:35 am
Just for the record, No person in their right mind is gonna come on here and say no!
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: Liekos on April 16, 2011, 02:26:27 am
Indeed,
but i had a mini heart attack at Teal's post xD
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: ringoluver on April 16, 2011, 02:42:15 am
In almost every controversial topic, I play 'Switzerland.' I don't have an opinion on most things, I just sort of go with the flow~ THIS, HOWEVER, is one of the only things I have an opinion on, and its VERY strong.

Are you for or against gay marriage? 100% For. It doesn't make sense to be against it- although, I will admit, in my very ignorant middle school age, I was homophobic. And it was only because I was ignorant and arrogant- I'd never actually met a gay person and just judged them based on how my peers felt about them- which, unfortunately, was a very negative image. When I got to high school, I realized my wrong. Why shouldn't people that love each other be able to get married? That's like, some people like peanut butter and jelly. Some people like just peanut butter. Are you saying people that just like peanut butter can't eat sandwiches? That's just... dumb.

Does it ruin the sanctity or marriage? No. Love has no color, love as no orientation. All is love.

Should gay couples be able to raise children? Of course! I know people that were raised by a lesbian couple. They raised them just as well, perhaps better, than any average straight couple.

Should people committing hate crimes towards gay people get harsher punishments? Wait, now that I read this question again, I'm a little confused on what it is asking xD

Should the U.S. military keep 'don't ask don't tell' ? Of course not. I'm glad they repealed it- it's a step in the right direction. If people want to fight for our country, it shouldn't matter gay straight or bi- that should not be a deciding factor if the person wants to fight for the US.

And should being homosexual be illegal? ABSOLUTELY NOT! Being gay is NOT a choice, so that's like saying its illegal to exist...
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: Robin_Wolfieh on April 16, 2011, 03:16:24 am
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Are you for or against gay marriage?
All for it. Seriously, I don't know why they shouldn't? It's no different from heterosexual marriage. -besides, they might be less agressive.

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Does it ruin the sanctity or marriage?
No. . Marriage is with two people, gay, lesbian or otherwise.

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Should gay couples be able to raise children?
As long they don't pressure them to be gay/lesbian, its all good. Besides, the world have enough kids as it is now and some are WILLING to be adopted to a loving family. The ones in the hospital/foster home, that is.

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Should people committing hate crimes towards gay people get harsher punishments?
That's like if hating one's race, you get punished more hard. Feelings' mutual.

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Should the U.S. military keep 'don't ask don't tell' ?
In a nutshell, yeah.

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And should being homosexual be illegal?
Wtf- No? I have actually met a lesbian couple in my school. Even have a program about "Gay/Straight Alliance" 'bout equality. Everyone is cool with them.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: kahara on April 16, 2011, 02:42:50 pm
Loving these responses, guys. :3

And true, it's unlikely that someone will come on here and answer differently then most already have, however you never know. ~
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: weylin on April 17, 2011, 10:01:48 am
You know what, the problem with marriage is that it's both religious AND intermingled with law.

This is a problem in that in some religions, homosexuality is very much frowned upon, but 'legally' should be allowed to so as to have the same benefits as other couples.


Now, honestly, I don't give a $#!@ what people do behind closed doors, I really don't. But when you have flamboyant homosexuals going down the road screaming "LOOK AT ME! I'M GAY" (Both literally, and behaviorally) Then it gets... annoying.
For that matter, any sort of kissing and groping is just bad manners to do in public, yet some people feel the need to show off and draw attention to themselves.



I'm sure some religions must have had a good reason to abolish it, given that it even occurs in nature.
$5 says the only reason half of you support it so aggressively is so you can have your yuri IRL.
Or you're a bunch of lovy-dovey little girls who think a certain pattern of synapses firing and release of chemicals known as the experience of 'love' is more important than... whatever I don't even care. Go ahead and karma-bash and flame me.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: kahara on April 17, 2011, 04:30:49 pm
^ That's actually very sterotypical. While, yes, I agree I can't stand the kind of homosexuals who flaunt their sexuality around, and I don't care what is done behind closed doors either.

The only reason they really 'flaunt' is to get the point across that we should have equal rights. If they all remained quiet, who is to say that anything would change? Nothing would likely change, then we'd be left at .. well, nothing. Which isn't right. Blacks didn't get their freedom by 'sitting behind closed doors'.

Am I saying holding, touching, etc in public (in sexually meant ways) is right? No. It's not even right for heterosexuals to do. So everyone can get a room.

And the only reason religions likely abolish is because it's not normal to them, they just don't see it as normal, honestly. "Oh well God blahblah". Have you seen the signs of Christians who say "FAGGOTS WILL BURN IN HELL" ? and other such. What if things we reversed? :/

And hardly. We support it because it's right and fair, equal. Granted life isn't fair or equal, that doesn't mean we should just give up and not do anything about it to TRY and make it as CLOSE to fair as possible. ~

You're being extremely sterotypical there honestly. Not all bi's/gays/lesbians are like that. Some are, which tend to give /ALL/ of us a bad name. / shakes head in disappointment.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: weylin on April 17, 2011, 07:43:00 pm
When has it ever NOT been "Not all X are like that"? There has always been exceptions. Some gay couples are very modest and quiet about their relationship.

The only thing that bothers me about all this acceptance of open homosexuality is both my upbringing, and the fact that it seems to be closely associated with the downfall of a civilization.

I wouldn't say that it's the CAUSE of a downfall, but it's a something that tends to go along with it, and I feel that we're on the verge of losing all we had worked so hard to achieve.

We'll be stuck on this damned rock for eternity, something has always happened in the past, and it's likely to happen again - soon.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: kahara on April 17, 2011, 08:07:03 pm
I really don't see how any of that has to do with two people of the same gender loving each other. xD

But, I respect your thinking as long as you're not the kind of person who's all up in arms about not allowing homosexuals the same rights that heterosexuals have. ~
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: weylin on April 17, 2011, 08:29:53 pm
I don't know kahara, something has always just seemed wrong with it.

What if I told you that I am gay? I never just go around saying it. And I'm pretty sure I'd get killed in my sleep by my family if I married another man.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: kahara on April 17, 2011, 09:01:55 pm
I see nothing wrong with it - now, anyway. At one point I /WAS? homophobic. But I opened my eyes and mind. / shrugs

If you told me you're gay.. I really wouldn't care. I'd treat it as if someone just told me they're straight. o3o If you got killed in your sleep for it, that's one of the exact reasons that homosexuality is a fight and why people march around fighting for equal rights. It'll take time, a while, maybe not, I don't know, but I'd like to see it CLOSE to fair and right.

Blacks weren't accepted right away as 'normal' people who weren't slaves. It didn't happen over night. Even now there is still racism and flaws.

And that's really my goal, and maybe others. To get it to the point that it's widely accepted and homosexuals don't have to love in fear.

 Sorry I'm rambling now. xDDD;
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: RavenShai on April 18, 2011, 02:01:26 am
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Are you for or against gay marriage?
I'm cool with it. Why shouldn't a couple, wither they be of the same sex or opposite, not be married when they love each other?

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Does it ruin the sanctity or marriage?
Not very likely. I think it would help actually if they love each other. Lately a lot of people of opposite sex marry each other but don't truly love each other and they get into constant fights and cheat on each other. So no, it wouldn't.
 
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Should gay couples be able to raise children?
If they're loving and understanding parents and are able to afford taking care of children, then yes. They should be able to have a chance of raising a child like everyone else in the world.

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Should people committing hate crimes towards gay people get harsher punishments?
Hating someone who is different is wrong, but I don't think the punishment should be more harsh because of that...

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Should the U.S. military keep 'don't ask don't tell' ? - Note; 'Don't ask, don't tell' was repealed but laws can always be changed. Also, a lot of people in the military are still going by it out of fear. If you answer that question, take that into consideration.
Not sure what that is O_o

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And should being homosexual be illegal?

A big fat NO. In fact, I think its wrong that most of the time two people who practically dislike each other are allowed to marry when two people who love each other are not.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: owenater1000 on April 18, 2011, 02:18:18 am
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And I'm pretty sure I'd get killed in my sleep by my family if I married another man.

I don't have to think that! I know that! XD I live in Kentucky (AKA: "The Hate Crime State!" I J K) Last time we went shoe shoping for me I found a pair of Air Jordans that were black with blue stripes going from the front to the back until they connected at a purple circle in the back! I showed dad and He looked at me and mom and said, As loudly as he humanly could, "Those would make you look like a fag." Everyone in the store looked at us and mom just shook her head and said "be louder!" It was awful! But I couldnt do anything because I couldnt breath! I was laughing so hard! It was even funnier when the shoes we bought were a Neon Rainbow pair of Zig-Techs! XD
Again, no one make me sound like a homophobic person!
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: weylin on April 18, 2011, 11:31:47 pm
I like how anyone who doesn't jump on the wagon in full acceptance of open homosexuality and gay rights triggers an argument of huge paragraphs.

Now there was this thing at my school which made no sense at all. A homosexual club, for homos.
Is school really the place to form a club that's, really, just a sexual preference?
I don't recall seeing any clubs marked specifically as Heterosexual or Asexual, or Bi, or whateverthe%#@&
What's the point?
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: RavenShai on April 19, 2011, 12:26:53 am
I think its so those who are homosexual know that there are others like them out there and its a place where they feel accepted. There are a lot of people out there who make fun of gays and lesbians and such and as it was said before some people commit suicide because of being made fun of. The clubs are made for encouragment and to help them feel more confident.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: aerotechway1 on April 19, 2011, 01:05:33 am
Grrrr....SCREW THE FORM!!!

*Rips it apart*


People are different and people lead different lives. If they feel that being gay/homo/trans/bisexual is best for them, then let them be! It doesn't matter. Let them be them and let you be YOU! It's your body and mind and no one has control over you. I find them to be nice people. In fact, I've had many friends who were gay/homo/trans/bisexual, had AIDS, a mental illness, impaired, e.t.c, and I think they are the best friends in the world-better than most of these fake people in the world today. I'm straight, but I believe these people should just have as much freedom as we do. Don't discriminate, conjugate.... or in other words, get along with each other! Nuff said!


/walksaway
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: owenater1000 on April 19, 2011, 01:13:03 am
Don't be mean to the form like that! :( You will make it cry! XD (Random question- Aren't you on youtube?)
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: aerotechway1 on April 19, 2011, 01:18:56 am
Don't be mean to the form like that! :( You will make it cry! XD (Random question- Aren't you on youtube?)


Yes I'm on Youtube.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: aerotechway1 on April 19, 2011, 02:03:44 am
Gonna quit being off topic after this! Are you this person! http://www.youtube.com/user/aerotechway1 (http://www.youtube.com/user/aerotechway1) O_o -glares at aerotechway1- O_O


Yep!
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: kahara on April 19, 2011, 10:06:51 pm
Take off topic conversation to PM? ;]

And lol yeah. "Live and let live." Although, to be honest I doubt that'll ever happen. People are too nit-picky and think everything should be done the way they think. o3o

Great input and opinions so far, guys. <3
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: hysteriaa on December 28, 2011, 06:37:54 pm
Hmm... well I was just looking around the forums and I found this thread.... of course it grabbed my attention. Though I realize this is a very old subject, I couldn't help noticing the majority of Feral Heart players approved of gay marriage.

I find it a bit strange that you should bring this debate to "Feral Heart" a site full of very young people (8, 12, ect).

It's also strange to me that whenever I look at these "gay marriage" arguments on the internet, the majority of people are FOR it. Then when I walk around in the real world, the majority OPPOSE it.

My point is that if people are FOR it & will just "let them have their rights", shouldn't that be the end of it? Why must they bring it to the internet if they "are heterosexual, but approve of it & people can do what they want"? Idk... just my opinion.

So, since apparently we cannot bring religion into this (& I respect that), Lets bring the legal rights into view. In the U.S.A., 55% of Americans opposed & 37% supported legal matrimony by gays & lesbians.
Now, 28% of Americans who were 'married' approved, & 63% married opposed. But 48% of 'single' Americans approved & 47% opposed... hmmm... suspicious? ;)

Now, about 6 states in the United States of America allow same sex marriage. And as you can guess, the rest show is illegal. Now that is a lot of states.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: hysteriaa on December 28, 2011, 06:57:09 pm
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: hysteriaa on December 28, 2011, 07:15:53 pm
I know I have made everything quite clear, but this is something I've always wanted to answer.

"Why would you keep 2 people in LOVE from marriage?"

Good question, it would seem evil, wouldn't it? Well then let me ask you "if a 10 year old and a 45 year old were in love, why would you keep them from marrying?". This actually happened at my old school, a 10 year old & 45 year old claimed to be in love. Of course he was arrested & they were separated. Yes they claimed to be in LOVE! But just as you & your boyfriend claim to be in LOVE, your parents always laugh at you when you & him brake up.

Love is a strong word, & it doesn't always last with everyone. Not only that but it can be delusional, you can think you are in such a deep love, but then all the sudden you loose interest in the person completely!
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: hysteriaa on December 28, 2011, 07:17:36 pm
Yeah bite me all you want everyone, cuz apparently I'm hurting you. xD

Apparently a person cannot have an opinion . . . .
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: Seam on December 28, 2011, 07:19:37 pm
I thought i would leave a comment since i am the child of a my mom (who is in fact a lesbian) and my dad (who is in fact gay)... Funny how things work out eh? Anywho!

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Are you for or against gay marriage?
I am for it, because my father and mother have shown me that you can love the same sex just as much as you can love the opposite.
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Does it ruin the sanctity or marriage?
haha no, it does not. Marriage is the partnership of two people, only  y religion does that two people have to be a man or a woman.

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Should gay couples be able to raise children?
Hahaha, OF CORSE. Now most people would answer this through the idea of adoption, and i agree that they should be allowed to adopt, and why do i think this? Well because i have been raised my whole life by my father and his partner as well as my mother and her partner! IVE TURNED OUT JUST FINE. There is nothing wrong with me, and no, they have never pushed their beleifes on me, and i think that if they did, that it would be wrong of them. So yes, they should be allowed to raise children.

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Should people committing hate crimes towards gay people get harsher punishments?
Should they get a harsher punishment from all the rest? No. I know it is wrong (morally wrong for me) to commit a hate crime against gays, but i think its the same as commiting a hate crime in general.

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And should being homosexual be illegal?
No, its against a persons rights.



Mer, i love talking about this topic :)