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Game & Forum Discussion => Game Discussion => Topic started by: papayatoot on November 28, 2015, 11:58:26 pm

Title: under-the-radar bullying exposed
Post by: papayatoot on November 28, 2015, 11:58:26 pm

I've learned that a lot of people in this community need clarification on what the rule "respect each other" entails. Here's a lot of the types of people who don't seem to realize they're being rude and breaking the rules.

1. the realistic charrie who treats another unrealistic char like a fleck of dirt. Rude!!!! let everyone be creative. That's the point of this game.

2. the admin's echo: people in a group/on the forum who seem to think they need to echo every word out of an upper rank's mouth. If you comment "^^" or "what he said" a lot, you need to s t o p t a l k i n g. The person you're backing up didn't stutter and doesn't need your help. Another variation of this is when people gang up on someone else just to feel important. The mob mentality.

3. conversely, the power-drunk admin. If all you do OOC is bark out orders, it's time to sober up. Keeping the rules in check is necessary; getting your daily hit of being in charge of people isn't.

4. the newbie ignorer. There's a new person in the group asking what the map password is/who wants to rp and theres 10 people in the chat talking about whatever else and nobody answers the newbie (this actually happens can you believe it)

This happens ALL THE TIME in this game. we can eradicate it! If you notice anyone doing these things, please mention to them that they should stop because bullying is against the rules. Report them to an admin if you need to. Let's make FH a friendly, welcoming community for all. :)

Title: Re: under-the-radar bullying exposed
Post by: Scornhound on November 29, 2015, 12:10:46 am

I agree with all of what you said.
I do see a lot of this and it is considered as bullying (at least in my eyes).

Title: Re: under-the-radar bullying exposed
Post by: Hooli on November 29, 2015, 12:12:47 am

Quote from: ~Faolan~ on November 29, 2015, 12:04:06 am

What exactly do you mean by 'newbie ignorers"?
Sometimes I am unable to respond or answer newbies, or am unable to help them.
Or they just plain bug me by constantly asking to be friends...

I dont see how it's bullying??

It might not be considered bullying it but is quite harsh. If you don't know how to help someone you can always just point them in the direction of someone who can, like a staff member or someone else who's more educated on the game. If they bug you, however, you can think of a polite way to get them to leave you be. I believe they mean those who treat newer players differently, like they don't belong.

But other than that, this is a very nice and true post. Kind of makes me happy that someone else noticed these things besides me and a few other of my friends. There's not a lot of respect towards each other in the community, and I really think that's something that needs to change.

Title: Re: under-the-radar bullying exposed
Post by: Warriorstrike on November 29, 2015, 12:16:47 am

Moving this to the Game Discussion board since I believe this is more of a discussion topic and would fit better there.

Title: Re: under-the-radar bullying exposed
Post by: yourlocalcrow on November 29, 2015, 03:52:39 am

#4 has happened to me before, even after being in a group for a week, the group members ignored my requests to roleplay.
However, I don't blame them. In said group, almost everyone online(up to six people) is in the conversation, so the chat moves by quickly, and my inquiry to roleplay could easily be missed.

I would never do the same to someone else, and if I can roleplay or know the map password or how to get it, I will always tell the newbie.

I hate people who disrespect their fellow players, and I love that you posted this! I've been on FeralHeart for almost two years now, and I've always been kind to new players and pointed in them in how to get things like Mass Markings to avoid the annoying marshmallows, and the most popular item pack(Legendary Items). All I've ever seen are kind people, and people who are eager to help.

I hope this post makes people think twice about the things they're doing on FH, or any roleplaying site/game.

Title: Re: under-the-radar bullying exposed
Post by: hugrf2 on November 29, 2015, 04:05:27 am

Can you explain to me what you mean by #2 exactly?... :{o

Title: Re: under-the-radar bullying exposed
Post by: papayatoot on November 29, 2015, 04:35:06 am

Quote from: Hugrf on November 29, 2015, 04:05:27 am

Can you explain to me what you mean by #2 exactly?... :{o

here's what an example would look like in chat

player: role-plays something against the rules on accident (too unrealistic, power playing, whatever)
admin: hey, actually, don't do that
rando dude: ^^
player: oh ok, i must have read that wrong on the site
admin: thats ok the more you know now
same rando dude: uh yeah the site says "blah blah"
some other random dude: what he said

the rando dudes are the admin-echoers

Title: Re: under-the-radar bullying exposed
Post by: hugrf2 on November 29, 2015, 04:41:19 am

Oh yeah, so you mean like, ganging up/attacking people and stuff and making them feel even worse than they should?

Title: Re: under-the-radar bullying exposed
Post by: papayatoot on November 29, 2015, 04:41:23 pm

Quote from: Hugrf on November 29, 2015, 04:41:19 am

Oh yeah, so you mean like, ganging up/attacking people and stuff and making them feel even worse than they should?

precisely

Title: Re: under-the-radar bullying exposed
Post by: SapphireHowlite on November 29, 2015, 05:14:09 pm

I'm a newer player and I've seen this first hand, my first time playing FH 2 people ganged up on me cause I was in there "spot" and they told me to leave, I told them they don't own the game I can be any where I want, and they got really mean and RP as if they where trying to hurt my character.. I don't think its very fair to act like that towards others, and I think everyone should just be nice to everyone and if someone is bothering you to tell them nicely and if they don't listen to just block them.

Title: Re: under-the-radar bullying exposed
Post by: hugrf2 on November 29, 2015, 09:42:46 pm

Yeah... I think I've had my own share of bullying, especially including the one I mentioned both here on the FH forums and the game. In fact, I may have had it go on a little bit on other games, like IT servers. :L Sometimes people may not even realize they're doing it, or how much it hurts the other person. Since I was so much more sensitive in the past, it hurt me a lot back then.

I guess the good thing is that I got stronger, though, with all the bad experiences I got like that...

Title: Re: under-the-radar bullying exposed
Post by: GlaydrChyle on December 03, 2015, 04:25:59 pm

Back in my newer years of playing, even then I had to say all of this was around. Sadly, we can't change the actions of certain people, which is why bullying exists in the first place. It's sad to think of it that way though I guess. I mean, I'n not saying it can't be stopped, we can always try :)

I think another group that you missed out would be those who pressurise other users. What I mean by this, is those who tell you " You're such a nub for not having this" or "Ew, having that colour makes you look like this or be this." I suppose you could say that people who stereotype fit under these statements as well.

I remember a time I was role-playing with my character Abe. Quite a feminine personality for a male OC. he also spoke with a west London Accent. I was in a group at the time and all I remember hearing was "You're wolf is so Gay you need to change his name cuz he shouldn't be like that he's a boy."
I sat there wandering for awhile why that was truly said. After all, is it not characterisation for each character to be different and unique? Wouldn't it be boring to have all the boys the same and all the girls the same too?

And now before I go into a ranting stage I'll just sum it all up by saying I sat there for half an hour after I was called profound names and being called this and that before getting kicked out the group.

Rather silly if you ask me, but it does happen.

Title: Re: under-the-radar bullying exposed
Post by: Lady_Alizarin on December 03, 2015, 09:09:41 pm

Quote from: papayatoot on November 28, 2015, 11:58:26 pm

2. the admin's echo: people in a group/on the forum who seem to think they need to echo every word out of an upper rank's mouth. If you comment "^^" or "what he said" a lot, you need to s t o p t a l k i n g. The person you're backing up didn't stutter and doesn't need your help. Another variation of this is when people gang up on someone else just to feel important. The mob mentality.

I don't see this as being rude or a form of bullying. It just seems like these "echoers" are just clarifying the rules that have been spoken by whoever it was that said it. If they say it in a more rude way like, "What she said, don't be stupid," then that's when it's going against the Respect Each Other rule of Feral Heart.

The rest of the points you mentioned do make a lot of sense, and happen very often in the game. I'm glad you brought these up, because I've seen some players out in the community who preach about the Feral Heart rules, yet they don't abide by them. Some of these members will shun younger players away in the rudest of ways, and claim they have done no wrong in rudely telling that player to "Beat it!". Some of them have the, "Well they shouldn't have come up to bother me. It's their own fault," sort of mentality, and they wonder why people get upset with them, and accuse them of being bullies. It's how you handle the situation, and the words you use that will determine if you're being a bully or not.

Title: Re: under-the-radar bullying exposed
Post by: longjump on December 09, 2015, 12:07:36 am

When it comes to admin echoes I definitely think that comes across as rude. I saw the person nudging me back, I don't need a ton of people going "^^^" "What person said". it's humiliating and imo they don't need to clarify the rules, the admin already did that XD.

Another point of bullying I've seen a lot of people struggle with is 'indirect' bullying. AKA:
Person1: *logs on*
Person2: Ew lol look who it is
Person1: Pff y u no love me
Person2: Becauz u almost got my charrie banished
Person3: MEANIE lol
Person2: jk I love u <3
Person1: Brownies just not perfect though
Person2: Yeah she's dum XD
Person3: HA! Really dum lol

They're not being outright aggressive but if it goes on and on and on like this for so long it definitely hurts

Title: Re: under-the-radar bullying exposed
Post by: ArizonaRanger on December 10, 2015, 05:38:13 pm

Yeah, I'm glad attention was brought to this. During my first few months on FeralHeart back in 2011, even back then there were people like this. It seems to have gotten worse. I for one try teating everyone equally. But I usually get attacked for that. But sometimes the newbies can be quite mean too. "Yeah. I'm new I can do whatever I want." There are also the people who feel they are close to the staff. I'm not saying any names since they have changed since then. But it was kinda the same case... I have seen a lot of indirect bullying too. Hopefully someone is able to get this under control.

Hopefully my phone didn't spell check random words into this.

Title: Re: under-the-radar bullying exposed
Post by: Tessel. on December 11, 2015, 02:14:36 am

I've noticed a lot of this too. The most recent bullying I saw was a few weeks ago. There was a Mate Center, and one person there was one of those highly literate, ''realistic'' characters. Every time someone went in the middle that didn't look like them (like, more unnatural colours or not fitting their type of design), they would say, "Ew, you're ugly asf." I would of reported it, but I left soon after and never got screenshots. They were very rude. It's sad some people are like this.