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I've been hangin' around SB a lot lately, and I realized a little something. Many users are starting to express their distaste for roleplay samples. For those who don't know, a roleplay sample is a sort of "test" to make sure a user has well written posts before joining the roleplay. Anyway, these people complain that all hosts who use rpses think that they're better than everyone else, if users do not roleplay exactly like them, they are inferior, etc. But I do not believe this to be true. Out of the hundreds of roleplay exchanges I've seen, only one or two users truly had that mentality. I'm not siding with either point of view, but I do think that the use of a rps has changed from a measure to ensure none of the "kills no miss" or powerplayers get into a "literate" group, to a college essay for some of the more "mature" packs, though the majority still just ensure that the post is well written, etc etc.
But this is just some vagabond's hopefully informative subrant. But if you agree, or disagree with the fuss on rps, I'm interested to hear what you have to say.
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I just see roleplay samples as a little insight on the person themselves and what their style is. When I ask for an rps, I am seeing how the person roleplays and what I can do to adjust. ~
But it is sad how others can have that mentality but that's just how some people are.
Interesting topic ~!
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I just see roleplay samples as a little insight on the person themselves and what their style is. When I ask for an rps, I am seeing how the person roleplays and what I can do to adjust. ~
But it is sad how others can have that mentality but that's just how some people are.
Interesting topic ~!
I agree with this. I tried to stay as unbiased as I could in the main post, but I think that some should be a bit easier with their rpses. I just use them to make sure that the person is realistic enough and doesn't powerplay.
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Honestly, roleplay samples are good from my point of view. People need to learn that not all people have the same mindset as them, and try and make a big deal out of it. But that's just how it is.
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I have no problem with role play examples, but some people can't do them depending on there role play skill, but that's not a problem to me. I think the role play examples are a good way to express your skill, and even though some people may not like them it will help them improve more.
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I think RP samples are perfectly fine to ask for, without being guilt-tripped or heckled for thinking someone's better than everyone else. The simple fact is that if you RP like:
*looks around*
then maybe you aren't cut out for those more put together RPs. Roleplaying is a skill, since it's just a form of good storytelling. It's writing. Younger people may have a tough time will spelling, or large vocabulary, and that's okay. They will learn.
There is definitely a sense of maturity with the way you RP. Is that wrong? No.
The way you structure a sentence / tell a story changes as you age. The above example lacked any meaning, purpose, impact, and detail. It could have just as easily been omitted and nothing would change.
As long as users remember to not powerplay, and keep their posts meaningful I don't think length really matters as much, since some people like to put requirements on that. You can't really force a story to be told better than it's going to be.
The whole using *s or -s or some type of indicator to express action is so widespread, it's pretty much the first form of RP anyone learns on the internet.
If you decide to aspire to become a "good" RPer, then it should become your goal to improve from there.
While those indicators work for a vast majority, their purpose is convey short, concise action quickly. Which they do. I use it mostly for speaking OOC, since I don't find it appropriate for storytelling.
What most people call "forum-style" RP is much easier to read and comprehend, not to mention it gives more opportunity to fill with detail, especially when telling from a third person view.
Ex:
*bites, hard*
vs
Rayne suddenly lunged forward, jaws open, ready to catch her victim by the throat.
Even keeping it very simple, as I did, still plenty more detail packed into that one statement.
So I guess it just comes down to whether or not your RP is just for the sake of RPing, or something more. A story to be told. Most often those "mature" RPs are just trying to tell a story, based on some sort of vision the creator had.
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Yeah, I agree with the use of roleplay samples, but I still do think that a few groups really are a bit harsh with them. I'm decently picky with my own samples, but I still give those who don't quite make the cut a chance to join my groups.
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Honestly, I think role-play samples are neither good nor bad, nor any sort of offense or praise to anyone. They're simply a way to discover if the person you are asking one from role-plays in your desired style. It's not like there's any wrong or right way to role-play, since it's an activity that's completely based around creativity and personal preference. I don't understand those who get angered by it -- it is not meant to offend anyone or label anyone as a "bad writer/role-player".
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I don't really think rp samples are a big problem.....
Rp samples are just to check spelling, grammar, if the player fits the quality of the roleplay, etc. Honestly players shouldn't get so mad over this. When a player is hoping to host a roleplay, i don't really think they want powerplayers, so they decide their group needs an rp sample, that shouldn't be a problem.
But thats my opinion.
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Some people can be pretty critical when it comes to roleplay samples, and the people who don't like them might've experienced that part more. Either that, or they've heard more stories of that kind of critique when they didn't want it. Or maybe, they just rejected them /without/ reason, without giving them any pointers. That's just my guess, anyway.
Some people on FeralHeart can be a bit judgmental, y'know? But I'm alright with roleplay samples. I don't think you should be too harsh when it comes to them, though, like if you don't like their style of roleplay, you could just give them a critique/some advice. Not mean, like "you're really bad, please don't use * that's awful", more like "Hmm. Well, you're actually really good - My only suggestion is that you get rid of the *'s, if that's okay?" or something like that. Shouldn't just reject them straight out because you're "literate."
My point is, there's a bad side and a good side to it. It's not just roleplay samples themselves with how I see it, it's just the person who receives it sometimes, y'know
I hope this made sense argh
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I have no problem with the roleplay samples, in fact I like that they are a big thing in FH. I know some people have that negative mentality about roleplaying samples and the people who ask for them. I for one am not very strict with samples, and when I do reject someone it is very rarely, and I am always polite about it and give them some pointers if they ever want to try again. I did experience some people who were quite rude after I rejected them, or simply left after I asked them to give me a rp sample without saying a word. It doesn't affect me though, but as person who asks for them myself, here's how I see it.
Roleplaying is a skill, and when you are in charge of a roleplaying community, one of the main concerns is making sure that all members of said community have close to the same roleplaying skill. Note I'm not saying that only certain roleplaying skills are better than others, but if every member roleplays using similar styles, then it's easier for everyone to feel involved. I believe that with the same roleplaying skill in a group, there is less of a chance that people will feel left out, or that there will be any delays or problems that would arise while roleplaying with a large amount of members. Of course, those that may have a harder time with roleplaying can learn from roleplay samples, if they only take the time to acknowledge the good behind them.
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I don't think that Role play Samples are things to be looked down upon. Honestly, if people have a negative mindset about RPS's then maybe they should just stick to the Non-Rps Groups in FH. And if they don't like it, then..Well, too bad. There are way more prides/clans/packs that request Rp Samples upon joining vs. ones who don't.