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Title: how do you feel about groups with lots of strict rules?
Post by: papayatoot on December 08, 2017, 04:23:22 pm
I have noticed throughout my years of playing FH that often times the most popular groups (normally packs) will have a downright absurd amount of rules. Maybe it’s just a side effect from staying an active group for so long and experiencing players that do things that require more rules to be put in place. However, a lot of times i find myself wondering how practical the rules really are. It feels like some groups lose the sense of creativity and spontaneity that comes with roleplay by imposing strict rules on ranks, ranking up, activity levels, sparring, aging up, size and color restrictions, blah blah blah. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: how do you feel about groups with lots of strict rules?
Post by: ShadowMT13 on December 08, 2017, 04:33:28 pm
For me it depends on what the rules are and what type of group it is. Most people don't realized that some groups need to be a bit strict to stay true to their lore and everything. Also some people may hate rules for one reason or another but in the end the rules were not that hard to follow, so then it would become that person's problem since they can't follow rules, not the group's fault. Typically I draw the line where it becomes ridiculous and it makes no sense for the rule to exist, like for a quick example think about a ranked pack rp group now typically wolves don't even have pack ranks, but if you are playing with ranks there can be two betas in the pack, a male and a female, some people will say there is only one beta in a pack, that would typically be where I draw the line at for it being dumb since that is simply not true and it is kind of unfair.

So truthfully it depend on how it matches up with the rules and the group itself. But sadly some people like to debate everything and can not follow a simple rule because they don't like it and then they try arguing at why they are right and the group owner is wrong. I guess you kind of have to be a group owner from some game or social media site to understand this really and to be able to get how frustrating and stressful it can be when players can not follow simple rules just for the time being. It is just really annoying to be 100% honest and truthfully those people are immature if they want to argue about rules instead of just giving the group a try before they pass judgement. That is how I feel about groups with a lot of rules.
Title: Re: how do you feel about groups with lots of strict rules?
Post by: Azurain on December 08, 2017, 05:04:07 pm
I myself like groups with some rules. It keeps everything sorted out and neat and that sorta soothes my OCD with such things. However if they get a bit too strict to the point they will kick you just for disrupting one little rule (intentional or not) it's a little harsh. And some rules really don't make sense at times or are generally just not needed. And I usually would want no part of something like that.
Title: Re: how do you feel about groups with lots of strict rules?
Post by: Kuri on December 08, 2017, 05:57:03 pm
Most of them make no sense and are probably invented by control freaks.  Don't see the point of micromanaging every little thing myself.
Title: Re: how do you feel about groups with lots of strict rules?
Post by: ShadowMT13 on December 08, 2017, 09:21:52 pm
Quote from: Azura on December 08, 2017, 05:04:07 pm
I myself like groups with some rules. It keeps everything sorted out and neat and that sorta soothes my OCD with such things. However if they get a bit too strict to the point they will kick you just for disrupting one little rule (intentional or not) it's a little harsh. And some rules really don't make sense at times or are generally just not needed. And I usually would want no part of something like that.
I can relate, I have OCD a bit too so a group that is not moderated right and does not have rules, does not really appeal to me.
Title: Re: how do you feel about groups with lots of strict rules?
Post by: ShadowMT13 on December 08, 2017, 09:22:49 pm
Quote from: Kuri on December 08, 2017, 05:57:03 pm
Most of them make no sense and are probably invented by control freaks.  Don't see the point of micromanaging every little thing myself.
Welp please try to understand certain groups need rules and most of us are not just being control freaks by having a lot of rules, please realize this.
Title: Re: how do you feel about groups with lots of strict rules?
Post by: turtlies on December 08, 2017, 10:03:24 pm
Personally, I like groups with stricter rules, though I perfectly understand why someone wouldn't. I guess it depends what the rules are---I'm not really a fan of extremely strict character creation rules that end up with every character looking alike, but when it comes to rules that help with keeping the peace and sticking to the lore of the group---yeah, that's cool with me. If the rules are just unnecessary or rude to people for no reason... then I don't waste my time with it.

I've had a lot of experiences in the past where I'll think, "oh, no need to make this a rule, I feel like its just common sense not to do that" and... tada, someone does it immediately. Whenever I have to make rules for something, they can sometimes end up being a bit lengthy, but I feel its better to prevent problems before they start.
Title: Re: how do you feel about groups with lots of strict rules?
Post by: WolfQueen on December 08, 2017, 11:21:45 pm
I agree with Torskite. I like strict rules when they're necessary, but what I hate the most is when groups have a strict literate rule. Posting in verbose paragraphs both in and out of character is tiring and time consuming. Kicking someone just because they make a mistake in their spelling or grammar isn't good group management. I hate to go this way but it's kinda discriminatory too. Not everyone is a conventional English native speaker.
I don't like character design rules ether. I understand the line between realistic and unrealistic but only allowing one type of marking or color takes out the fun of roleplaying, being creative.
Title: Re: how do you feel about groups with lots of strict rules?
Post by: Hooli on December 08, 2017, 11:32:41 pm
As someone who usually has a pretty long list of rules for role plays, I think that having strict rules isn't always a bad thing. As a lot of people said here, it keeps order and helps keep the RP stay true to itself. Without rules there would be some pretty messy groups..  Like Torskite said, a lot of times when you feel you won't need rules because it's common sense, someone will go and do the one thing you thought they wouldn't need a rule for.

I don't get why people think that RPs with strict rules are a bad thing, as really in my experience they're only strict because they want everyone to have a safe, friendly and good experience in the group.
Title: Re: how do you feel about groups with lots of strict rules?
Post by: Lucius on December 09, 2017, 12:42:01 am
Personally, I don't really care for groups with a lot of rules. I understand why some group administrators would want to implement them, but I rarely will ever join a group that has a whole list of strict rules to abide by. I think that it just makes the whole roleplay process so much more tedious than it has to be. Not to mention that I love to have my freedom in these things, so I naturally shy away from strict groups.

I think the only time I'd ever join a group with a list of strict rules would be if they were in place to maintain the lore of the universe that the roleplay is taking in. Otherwise, count me out.
Title: Re: how do you feel about groups with lots of strict rules?
Post by: SophyTheLioness on December 09, 2017, 01:36:58 am
I think its dumb to put strict rules on smth that should be fun but, its their groups and they have the right to put whatever they want in them. Also the fact that it really depends on what kind of rules they are... Like, a rule saying your mate can only be 'x' years old, of certain rank, certain size and etc. it would be ridiculous. Where's the fun that?! I especially hate rules that involve a "must-do" registering or posting on the forum before roleplaying. If its like an invitation, "Hey u can register but its not necessary", go ahead but, a requirement? It sounds more like a "YOU MUST REGISTER ON THE FORUM OF MY RP THAT'LL LAST LESS THAN 4 DAYS ALIVE."
Title: Re: how do you feel about groups with lots of strict rules?
Post by: Jango_Fett on December 14, 2017, 07:09:03 pm
I have noticed a serious increase in strict rules over the past few years concerning Rp groups.


Not exactly a fan of it, since most good rule lists can be counted on with only your hands(and sometimes less is more). I can understand why strictness would be brought about since the playerbase is getting older and, you know, ya wanna keep things nice and organized/serious.

But the rules I have a big issue on is required time to be online. I've even seen that on other games/servers and it's downright annoyin'.
Title: Re: how do you feel about groups with lots of strict rules?
Post by: WhimsyFae on December 16, 2017, 04:18:05 am
Personally I enjoy a group with a nice amount of rules. Not to many, But not to little either.
In a group with too many rules, I feel like you can't have fun or let your guard down. Or you risk getting yelled at. But groups need structure and they need rules. Without any rules you always risk having to deal with Drama or other issues. Drama can and will accrue, even groups with lots of rules have drama still, but I just feel it would be far more hectic without any rules? So for me I need like a perfect in between, not to many rules but at least some.
But I think this also depends on the groups you've been apart of. I could be used to the way I like rules purely because I've been in a group with a good amount of rules for almost 6 years now haha. But yea that's my opinion on that o; 
Title: Re: how do you feel about groups with lots of strict rules?
Post by: Siarczek on December 16, 2017, 08:07:10 am
Some strict rules seem pointless- others I feel are necessary.

That being said, strict activity rules can be extremely annoying. Having to be online 4 days a week isn't always realistic for busy university students like myself. It's the reason I usually only join groups in the summer when I have free time- would kinda suck to get kicked from a group because of taking time away from FH to study for exams or something.
Title: Re: how do you feel about groups with lots of strict rules?
Post by: OnionKnight on December 19, 2017, 07:16:20 pm
Depends on the rules, and what one person would consider "strict" is not the same as probably another person would also consider strict. It's opinion based.

I prefer groups with a good set of rules, and a good community starts off with a good set of rules and order. I've joined my fair share of role plays where the chaos was too much for me to handle. Rules regarding respect is big, and I appreciate roleplays that hold their members to a standard. Rules don't always mean "strict" and I've come to realize that having joined multiple myself with rulesets that some would consider "strict" and yet the community is fantastic. Size and color restrictions are also important if the roleplay has a certain setting or a vibe.

At the end of the day, it all comes down to preference. If a long list of rules isn't someone's preference then FH has other options available to them. ^^ Creativity doesn't end at the rules imo.
Title: Re: how do you feel about groups with lots of strict rules?
Post by: Michen_S on December 19, 2017, 10:09:09 pm
Some rules are great to keep the RP in the line it is meant to go. Point is, how strict is too strict? There's no single answer on that. I've seen RPs with a strict aging rule. Is that bad? Not at all! Granted, it'd take some of the fun away for me, but it's not a bad rule. Some have you required to join their site. Is that bad? Again, no, but then I don't want to join anymore.

With that in mind, a lot of rules can be put in that mindset. It's a personal opinion whether they're rules you'd rather not see when joining a roleplay group, but they're not bad. Of course there is such a thing as going too far with rules, which is why I said "a lot". For example, I've seen a ruleset that mentioned that you'd get kicked out of the group without warnings upon violating the rules... Ooo-kaaay?