Feral Heart

Help & Guidance => Game Help => Topic started by: Oddonelynx on June 22, 2019, 03:35:57 am

Title: Why Is The Game Coding Simple?
Post by: Oddonelynx on June 22, 2019, 03:35:57 am
Another question is, why can't they make new models like tails,wings,ears?
Title: Re: Why Is The Game Coding Simple?
Post by: WolfQueen on June 22, 2019, 04:21:06 am
Because the original developer (KovuLKD) left the game unfinished for personal reasons. No one on the staff team at the time received the game's source code from him, so the game is unable to become modified beside server or client side changes.
Title: Re: Why Is The Game Coding Simple?
Post by: Kerriki on June 22, 2019, 06:17:08 am
Moving this over to game help~

Aye, despite years of trying staff has been unsuccessful in attempts made to contact LKD. We don't know why he decided to leave. The only ways we can modify the game are by changing maps, markings, etc
Title: Re: Why Is The Game Coding Simple?
Post by: WolfQueen on June 22, 2019, 06:23:03 am
Aye, despite years of trying staff has been unsuccessful in attempts made to contact LKD. We don't know why he decided to leave. The only ways we can modify the game are by changing maps, markings, etc
Heard from word of mouth that he now works for a game company.
Title: Re: Why Is The Game Coding Simple?
Post by: Astraea on June 22, 2019, 06:00:45 pm
As the others have stated, Kovu is no longer with FeralHeart as he left a long time ago; so there is no way to get into the coding because he only had access. c: Though, simple things can be edited such as markings, etc. Things that normal users can, essentially as Kerriki mentioned.

I wish things were different and I do wish he came back to at least share the code with the team so more can be done for the community. I would love to see that happen but alas, it most likely won't ever unfortunately. :c
Title: Re: Why Is The Game Coding Simple?
Post by: BirdieBeep on June 22, 2019, 09:51:04 pm
I don't want to beat a dead horse, but the game's original creator has left. But we are fortunate that markings, maps, and the UV can be changed. And of course we have some really awesome modders in the community who've done well at enhancing the game, and I know some have even switched out the meshes for ears and tails with their own, but if you wanna spice up your game you can check here (https://feral-heart.com/smf/index.php?board=34.0) and see if anything looks cool to you ^^
Title: Re: Why Is The Game Coding Simple?
Post by: VortexAlive on June 23, 2019, 10:11:27 pm
"Why Is The Game Coding Simple?"
"why can't they make new models like tails,wings,ears?"

It is not. There are just some parts of the game that can be modified with no coding required. Also I do not believe taking much of someones valuable time for creating a well-developed modification (Art) to be even remotely simple. However, as mentioned earlier, making replacement tails and stuff isn't impossible while adding new tails and stuff would require the missing source code due to the game having hard-coded limits.
Title: Re: Why Is The Game Coding Simple?
Post by: Jango_Fett on June 24, 2019, 03:19:50 am
from what i've heard the code is unique in that kovulkd put his own little spicy twist on it
so it's practically illegible to other coders. that's how most code schemas tend to go no matter the game or platform - if you aren't learned in it, you're in for a trip

so yeah
you can technically add these things, but they'd have to replace old ones which is likely never going to happen.
Title: Re: Why Is The Game Coding Simple?
Post by: cattails on June 27, 2019, 04:08:47 am
In regards to the second question:
It's actually not that hard to make new models. Anyone with enough 3D modeling and coding experience can do it. I've done it myself with several feline ears and tails.

Like Jango_Fett said, the biggest problem is that you can't simply add things like new body part models into the game (as far as I know). You have to overwrite a preexisting model to add in a new one. If you want to, say, make a new tail, you need to choose one of the tails already in the game to replace. You also can't rename them in any way. If you make a feather tail to replace Ftail5, it's always going to be called "tailless" no matter what you do.

Still, given that it's possible to replace ears and tails, it should (in theory) be possible to replace the entire canine and feline models, but then you run into another problem: the difficulty of actually accomplishing such an enormous task. It's much harder to modify, convert, export, and properly import an entire model than it is to do the same with just ears. The process of importing and overwriting models involves finding very specific blocks of code in your original file and replacing them with new blocks from your exported file. The more complex a model is, the harder it is to accomplish this without messing up. If you don't know exactly what you're doing, it simply won't work. Heck, sometimes it doesn't work even if you do know exactly what you're doing. :(

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555507327181127715/555534492329181215/screenshot_02152019_010408204.png)
^ this is an example of what happens when the code isn't 1000% perfect ^

ALSO, ofc, what we can replace is limited by what we can access. While it's possible to replace the bodies, ears, tails, and manes, I don't believe it's possible for the average person to replace the wings. There isn't a publicly available .blend file that includes the wings and their skeletons. Without those, the best you'd be able to get is an item.
Title: Fh keeps crashing
Post by: x0Wolfchild0x on June 27, 2019, 04:17:10 am
Ok so im really confused on how i make a post so idk if im replying to a thread or not. Regardless i need some help. Im not tech savvy at all. When i play feral heart it lets me play for a good solid minute. Then it says "Reconnecting...." then "Lost Connection, Would you like to reconnect?" When i click 'ok' it doesnt reconnect and when i click cancel it just keeps popping up "Lost connection". I thought i ruined the game so i re downloaded it 3 times. Yes i actually uninstalled it too. Then i thought "Well i have wifi so i dont know why fh is doing this." I restarted my wifi router twice and still, the problem doesnt fix. i deleted every file and re downloaded everything. Idk what im doing wrong. Ive read other threads saying to change my rendering. I did its OpenDGL or something like that. qwq... someone please help im a noob.
Title: Re: Fh keeps crashing
Post by: WolfQueen on June 27, 2019, 04:23:50 am
Ok so im really confused on how i make a post so idk if im replying to a thread or not. Regardless i need some help. Im not tech savvy at all. When i play feral heart it lets me play for a good solid minute. Then it says "Reconnecting...." then "Lost Connection, Would you like to reconnect?" When i click 'ok' it doesnt reconnect and when i click cancel it just keeps popping up "Lost connection". I thought i ruined the game so i re downloaded it 3 times. Yes i actually uninstalled it too. Then i thought "Well i have wifi so i dont know why fh is doing this." I restarted my wifi router twice and still, the problem doesnt fix. i deleted every file and re downloaded everything. Idk what im doing wrong. Ive read other threads saying to change my rendering. I did its OpenDGL or something like that. qwq... someone please help im a noob.
make sure the "play game" page is reloading correctly and not logging you out. you might need to use another browser, or possibly your mobile phone if possible.

you can make a new thread by clicking the orange "NEW TOPIC" at the top of the game help board :>
Title: Re: Why Is The Game Coding Simple?
Post by: cattails on June 27, 2019, 04:29:47 am
How is your internet connection? If your internet is bad, it might be causing you to disconnect from the server. That's usually the exact same notice I get when my internet is having trouble. ^^

Also, in my experience, clicking that reconnect button never works. All it does is hide the notice box and leave you disconnected. If you want to get back online, you need to quit to the main menu and enter back in manually.
Title: Re: Why Is The Game Coding Simple?
Post by: Whisperingwaves on June 28, 2019, 07:24:33 am
Just for some clarification, when remaking body parts for FH, such as in IT, the animations would have to have the same names and all be present in order to have a working body part. If anything is renamed, even slightly, the game will crash due to the hard coded names and animation titles being within the source code. It is possible to remake the body parts, but you cannot extend upon what is given to you in the current version of the game.
If you are looking to make new body parts, you can use the FH models found here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/73bu4l008g6av6u/Mybad.rar
This file was provided by Slycan from KITO.

Rigging is a different story, and i'm unsure if FH rigging is the same as IT. In which case, it's a little tricky to master. If you're looking into it, i'll be sure to provide a link to a rigging tutorial for IT items that would work for body parts.


~ Whisper
Title: Re: Why Is The Game Coding Simple?
Post by: Kuri on June 28, 2019, 09:35:53 am
Why is the coding simple?

So the young & inexperienced could have a go at making & mod'ing things to customize it to their own ends.
And I love that.