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What's all this reporting talk about?  i never report anyone.

If you're referring to what I said, I was mainly speaking for myself, Hooli, & Arctic.

As for "mini-mods" (the name would likely need to be something else due to the original usage being negative/to avoid confusion), I'm not sure. I have no idea how the staff go about picking & training other staff. I'd think choosing someone they know is highly responsible & trustworthy is enough to make them a regular moderator. I also say this since I don't think there is a power to simply mute someone, so for them to have any sort of moderating abilities it'd just be kicking, & that alone only seems so useful. Maybe it'd be enough to get a point across in tame situations.

I'm curious to know how the staff feel about this subject & if they would consider switching something up in regards to choosing staff, & if so what they would do. It's not that I feel FH is burning to the ground, but perhaps something to consider to make things run more smoothly.

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First off...


Your post confuses me. We know the staff want the best & work hard, & no one said any specific criteria for which to choose staff, just that there are people who would be qualified. Yes, many things go into considering someone as staff for anything. We need more ideas yes, but there is not much you can do with FH without the source. I'm not so much the one discussing the registration being closed, though it has been a considerably long time.

Who has a "staff obsession complexion"? Who in this thread is seeing the staff as gods? We see the staff as people; Hooli knows several of them. I am simply acknowledging that by definition, staff have authority over other users, meaning people will actually listen to them, even if they do not listen to other users' requests. Who wants to be popular in this thread? Who is power-hungry? Who said the system of staff picking more staff is biased & power-heavy? I don't have a problem with it.

Also, did you read our previous posts? We have already discussed that we report users as well as tell them if they are doing something against the rules. And I am assuming Arctic is speaking of not getting a response, or perhaps seeing someone running around still doing whatever rule-breaking they were doing before. Regardless of what the staff decide to do, the one giving the report needs some sort of feedback to know whether the issue has been dealt with, or if the staff don't see the issue as against the rules, or what.

The people I'm talking about in terms of toxic behavior are around 15-18 years old. I'm not frustrated with children being children. But yes, immaturity is expected. It's expected in literally any video game community. That's why I said rules unfortunately must exist & why it's a good idea to have quite a few in-game moderators. Patience doesn't do anything when people are hurting other people's feelings & everyone is arguing. Having in-game moderators who are around during the busy hours of the day, however, does.

I can't tell if you're talking to us directly or just in general, because you're bringing up a lot of things we didn't mention at all, or things we already said we do. Sorry if I come off as rude, I don't mean to, I'm just a little confused as to why you mentioned a lot of things you did.

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I am saying that I don't think patience is solving the issue, which is why I am proposing a different solution.

And I completely agree, the main thing would be having staff members able to be on at varied times of the day.

Rules shouldn't even be necessary, but they are, because people are immature, regardless of how old they may be. I really don't think having staff readily available in-game is "spoon-feeding". They already do this, but I would like for them to collectively be on more & for longer. It's simply more helpful for them to be able to be called to resolve issues directly & immediately instead of going through the slow process of taking a screenshot, sending a report via PM, & then waiting for the problem to be resolved. Either way, they are essentially doing the same thing, but one process takes vastly longer than the other. I don't see being able to immediately solve an issue as "spoon-feeding" while having to resolve it later is something different. Correct me if I'm not understanding you, though.

They also already resolve disputes when they come up. It's not that they aren't taken seriously, but they aren't always around, that is the issue. It's a part of their job to be a mediator, as being one is an important part of keeping the game a friendly place. A ban is not usually necessary, but them just being there to be mediator & authority figure helps.

Edit: Perhaps a further suggestion is to take a page out of IT servers' book & have moderators specifically for the forum & others whose focus is in-game instead of requiring forum activity.

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As ArcticGalaxy said, we do report people. Many members report people. However, the issue I am referring to specifically is something that needs to be addressed as it happens. It doesn't matter if you report someone; by the time a staff member would be available, it would have been said & done, unfortunately. I'm mainly talking about someone just being able to simmer issues down as they happen. This issue is the most toxic one, not silly trolls & spammers.

I don't bother with trolls, however it's different when people are being completely serious in Local. Also, as Arctic touched on, we're really just reminding people of the rules, which is about the most any member can do in such a situation. I really wouldn't call that entitled authority; that is mini-modding, which is acting like you are a mod & threatening to get others in trouble. However, people get defensive, & many times those simply trying to remind others of the rules get absolutely ganged up on.

We aren't simply "bickering & complaining" while doing nothing more. Not only do we report people frequently, but we are giving suggestions to possibly help the community. My point still stands due to the specific issue I'm speaking of that we could do with even one or two extra staff members. Obviously, there will always still be problems, but it would be nice.

Edit: Also, to add, having more staff would mean being able to delegate reports more easily, issues could be dealt with sooner, & things would be less likely to be overlooked.

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Much of the issue relies within its memberbase. But to be honest, a staff members absence does not dictate that you cannot intervene when something inappropriate is happening. Don't shove authority around, but do your duty as a member of Feral Heart because the staff can't do it themselves.

The toxicity floating around is due to big heads, everyone wants to be literate and mature and popular but no one wants to have fun and use the game as it was meant to be used, to make friends, have fun and roleplay. To state that you are a "mature" group means that you are anything but mature in actuality. No, I don't mean elements of gore or sexual violence. The fact that every second group has that in their bio is off putting to begin with.

Yes, registration needs to be addressed, but I believe there are enough staff for the current dwindling memberbase, if not too many. It is up to the loyal members to stand fast and do THEIR duty in creating a safe environment without the emblem of "staff" stitched to their chest. But no, everyonr does a hood thing and thinks they have a shot at being staff because they help, they report, they make an offer of commitment, but as soon as you are denied, you become as toxic as the others. To create a better community, go to its core. Its members, because that is where the fault will be found.

I will have to 100% disagree with you due to Hooli & I's experiences lately, which is a big reason why I believe this thread exists.

I sit in The Grounds nearly every day. There are many people who try to quell issues when they come up, but members have absolutely zero authority over other members. So not only can members not make people stop breaking rules or generally being problematic, but if you try to reason with someone, you are normally met with sass & resistance, & an argument ensues. This has happened a ridiculous amount of times to Hooli & I lately in a very short amount of time, because we DO try to calmly deal with people being inappropriate (specifically people using "freedom of speech" to badly excuse rudely stating opinions about other players who are right there).

The better way to resolve the issue is to be able to silently message a staff member, or for one to already be there to take care of it. That way, when things began to hit the fan, there would be someone with authority to stop it. When arguments ensue & there are no staff around to even call, it completely disturbs everyone in Local. People often respond differently to a moderator than they would a regular member because a regular member has no authority over them. But, even if they disagree with a staff member, they have little choice but to comply. If they don't, they get kicked or banned. Either way, the problem stops. I feel that you're greatly undermining the importance of staff & forgetting why they must exist & be around.

Due to the fact that these instances have been happening so frequently due to these egotistical people going on about their "free speech" & no staff have been around to assist in the issue, yes, it is a problem, & I would say that this is indeed a sign to get even just one or two more staff members to fill in time gaps the current ones may be unavailable. It would stop Local from being flooded with arguments quite a bit, as well as other things.

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In-Game Roleplay & Group Advertisement / Re: + Fylgja Hyena Clan +
« on: November 13, 2016, 05:40:34 pm »
Will do! & Discord sounds perfect, I don't even use Skype anymore, lmao.

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In-Game Roleplay & Group Advertisement / Re: + Fylgja Hyena Clan +
« on: November 12, 2016, 10:22:44 pm »
Very interesting! I absolutely adore hyenas & I'd love to be a part of this group! The species looks really fun, as well. I may just make one, if that's alright.

Who should I contact in-game? My user is NazoXSparx or C R O C U T A. I'd love to help out as much as I can, just let me know if there's anything I can do!

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Forum Games / Re: Count to 50 before an admin/mod posts!
« on: November 11, 2016, 10:32:02 pm »
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Anyone else have any suggestions?

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I went back to my original, don't think there was a difference.

The disc is only at 2-3%, & I don't think there's anything running that I don't need (though there's a lot I'm afraid to touch, lol). I don't think this is a problem since this new laptop has a ton of space & is pretty darn great. FH is the only thing being stupid on it.

I do appreciate the suggestion, though.

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