Feral Heart

I agree. There has been no actual arguing on this thread. At most, we've had debates. It's a calm discussion on a topic many of us are against. It's not like we put up a petition saying to ban wolfspeak and are acting like haters. XD Especially not if you take the time to actually read the thread. There's a lot of people here who are on the fence about wolfspeak, or who agree that the usage of certain words found in wolfspeak are fine (such as orbs for eyes). I, personally, hate most wolfspeak, but even I still try to branch out some of my words so I'm not saying "ear" the same way five times in a couple sentences, or some such. It's when they try to get way too fancy that I get annoyed and roll my eyes (or laugh because I know what the words actually mean and get a hilarious mental image). I also get annoyed with those amongst the wolfspeakers who do get pompous and arrogant and accuse others of "not being literate" just because they aren't using the same style of typing (especially when the definition of "literate" is "someone who can read and write", not "someone who knows a ton of words").

You people hate listening to me don't you? xD    Wolfspeak was around well before Wolf Quest. WELL before it.

Thank you! Glad I'm not the only one who caught this. XD Hasn't it been around since Furcadia? Or is it even older than that?

Let's level the playing field here, as people just responding this seem to have gotten the wrong idea.

Point 1 - At no point in this thread did any of us say we hated wolfspeakers on the whole. We hate the wolfspeaking itself, because of it's grammatical incorrectness and the fact they go above and beyond to change the definitions of pre-existing words.

Point 2 - There are several wolfspeakers out there who do have poor attitudes, and these people are the ones we dislike. There are also several chat speakers out there who do the same thing that we dislike. It's the ones who give their group the poor image we look down on, and with good reason. When we say "most" we are referring to "most of the ones WE have encountered." This does not mean "most wolfspeakers in existance." I've met several wolfspeakers who are fine people and great to get along with. Those of you just coming into this thread, please do not put words in our mouths; "most" does not mean "all", and while some people on this thread -may- have meant "all", "some" does not mean "everyone in this thread."

Point 3 - Yes, others can have their opinions. If you enjoy wolfspeak and think it is awesome, then go create a thread about why you enjoy it and discuss it there. There's no good reason to come and read a thread that specifically is against the things you personally enjoy, and then berate us for having our own opinions about it. Why would you even join a thread you know based on the title alone is going to make you feel angry? Just ignore this thread and move on to ones you know you'll like.

I think wolfspeak as we know it should not exist. If someone wants to make up "cute little words" for their wolves, why not turn "wolfspeak" into its own wolf language instead of completely butchering the language we used to speak? Warriors, for all its greatness and all its flaws, made its own "cute little words without changing the meanings of real words in the greater context. When a normal, everyday person hears "fresh kill" they think "freshly killed." When a character in the Warriors world hears it, they think "food." These two elements are kept entirely separate, and every reader knows they are not part of everyday language.

If we were to turn "wolfspeak" into something similar (without flat-out ripping off Warriors, of course, though I can see how practicing that way might help get the ball rolling), then it would not be a big issue as a whole. I roleplay in a wolf pack that uses their own terms for things, yet we don't butcher the English language (or the American one, if you prefer). Thus, I agree with Silhouette on this. "cute little words" are not something we should reinforce to be correct. They're something we should separate from our own language entirely as something fictional to be used in roleplay or storytelling.

As for roleplays being "segregated into such topics," most roleplay is naturally segregated without the negative blacklash that comes with that terminology. If someone is hosting a lion roleplay and you want to be a wolf, naturally your roleplaying situations are going to be segregated. I'm not saying you can't have a "free for all" style RP, but you get the point.

As a result, most of us experienced (and several newbies) roleplayers don't wish to associate with butchering the language we use to communicate, thus we avoid and detest wolfspeak. There would not be so much backlash against it if most (not all) of the people who are pro-wolfspeak didn't shove it down our throats and claim they were being literate (or more literate), when the very definition of the word "literate" is "someone who can read and write." Even five year-olds are literate. They may not read and write very well, but they still fit the definition of the word.

Thank you for the bump. ^_^ I was worried no one was really gonna care about this mod. XD As for if the music can be used freely in maps, I don't see why you couldn't. After all, someone made a music mod with the Skyrim soundtrack. Just don't claim them as your own (or mine, for that matter; I bought this CD set years ago, before MP3 players existed;). The artist is the famous Nobuo Uematsu~