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Game Help / Re: Modern way to make items?
« on: November 28, 2020, 07:29:53 pm »
Good news, it worked. I now have a tiny lil cube. And I'll def be able to use this method for other things. A lot easier to attached textures too as well compared to DeleD. Thank you all for the help on that. After all of these trials, I shall finally be able to make my smol catto hood.

Maybe at some point there should be a modernized tutorial made, now that we have figured all this out, I dunno jshdfk.


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In-Game Roleplay & Group Advertisement / Re: Shines Over The Horizon
« on: November 27, 2020, 09:48:41 pm »
Character name: Tara
Age: (Very) young adult (kinda the human age equivalent of 18. Not sure how to translate that into cat years lol)
Gender/sexuality: Female, pan
Personality/short description: Kinda edgy (as is her appearance [I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING UNREALISTIC]), but generally chill if you get to know her and look past her edgyness.
Why you want to join (optional): I just got back into this game, there aren't as many of those guys who yell out in The Grounds about their groups (I still miss them), and I wanna actually get into roleplay. This is the best one I could find (cuz a lot of the other ones require you to have a discord or they've already left the game so they probably aren't continuing, etc).
Questions (optional): What exactly is the storyline? Or are we just gonna vibe and come up with a story as we go?

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Other Mods/Creations / Re: Poggers Emote For Feralheart!
« on: November 27, 2020, 05:08:49 pm »
Bootiful! Now I can finally be Ryuko's pogchamp!

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Game Help / Re: Modern way to make items?
« on: November 27, 2020, 05:06:53 pm »
Making items is absolutely a mind-boggling thing for me when it comes to the positioning but there's a couple things that make it a little easier:

There's .blend models of the Canine and Felines that make it easier to build around (I hope I'm allowed to link to it, if not I'll remove it): https://kito.forumotion.com/t3332-canine-and-feline-blend-models-from-that-other-animal-ogre-game
I'm not 100% sure they're the right scaling or not and I know some of the animations are bugged but for item making it can help.

DeleD is definitely not the best program by any means, it's super buggy and doesn't give you many options but it does directly convert to .mesh. I usually model in Blender, save as an .obj or pretty much any other format and import it into DeleD to convert. It's easy to scale in DeleD in case the item ends up being a little smaller/bigger than anticipated, just export and restart so it's not too much of a hassle. I could never get Blender plugins to work since I'm computer illiterate so that's one work around

But in summary, basically there's no good way to make items still as far as I'm aware lmao, I'm still waiting for someone to make a tutorial on how the item codes work :( Some people seem to be able to pump out items pretty fast though but there's really not much for public tutorials/resources. 

I really hope someone with item knowledge can give some more input cause I wanna know too haha


Hhsjdka ye. But thank you for the models. Those will def help (probably need a lil positioning to get to the default spots but still. Will work.). And I still don't know what item codes are and now I am scared jskhdsdfh

If needed, I can send you Blender 2.49 with all working scrips for OGRE and other formats (okey, maybe not all, but a lot haha), I can send you OgreXMLConverter with all four needed files, lol. Just tell me if you want it!

OOOOH YES DEFINITLY PLEASE JKDHFKSDHF. I think I found the post where that package thing you mentioned was. However, the link they left was dead so I couldn't get that (and that post was made all the way back in 2013 and the person who posted it hasn't logged on since 2018). So yeah, please do send that.

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Game Help / Re: Modern way to make items?
« on: November 26, 2020, 07:39:48 pm »
Hellou! Kerriki (Kifi) is still in the staff team! Here you have link to her profile: https://feral-heart.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=169967
Ah, so did she just change her name and theme and all (The little picture below of the persona with the preset link def looks familiar tho)?

About Redlinelies - I don't know what do you mean by saying "clone" (I joined FH in 2019's edge, so...), but anyway, Redlinelies isn't in game's staff, but he's still in-game around.

AHASHA I Always thought it was a faker sjkdhks! His user was spelled slightly different from everywhere else so I thought he was a fake one for the longest time and people just didn't care/didn't know jksadhks.

About Blender, I'm not sure can I help since I started using Blender generally 5 days ago, but I can tell you how I exporting .mesh xml and .mesh works to me.

I make mesh in newest blender, then export it as .dae format. Then I open 2.49 (I got only this one with OGRE exporter) and import this file. Then make sure everything's okey and you can export it as .mesh xml. And then just short convert thing to the .mesh format. Note: I don't know how it works with animations, sadly. Also big or complitated meshes may crash older Blender.

Tried using the ye oldie Blender .49 (god the FoV tho-), but I couldn't get the plugins to load in at all. I don't think they have any kind of toggle system in that version and they just kinda load in from the scripts folder (unlike future versions where there was a little user pref section). All it needs is like, a version of Python 3.6 installed (luckily I have one already on there), but still can't seem to get it to start. Might just be shiny operating system or the fact I am running from a zip, so I'll keep trying.

How did you get to the .xml part. I was able to find multiple mentions of a "OgreXMLConverter" around, and I think I found it at one point in, like, an achive, but I have no idea how to use it. I think its one of those command line type .exes where you kinda run them in a command line and they just do their thing. Maybe it shows up when you get to the "Exporting" part tho jkdhfk

And is there any sort of way to, idk, convert a .mesh back to a easier to read format (so that I can have a ref model and know what I am doin). Tho it makes sense if there isn't (even tho usually there is some mysterious work around in those cases... idk I'm just speculatin tho.)

And about the poly thing, is gud. Nothing I end up making ends up very high poly (usually on accident because I spread them too far out jdhks).

But thank you for your help on this, even if it's not much. I'll keep working on getting Blender .49 to work (Once I learn a THIRD Blender interface jkhskd) and hopefully maybe there is some weird obscure plugin in the distant pages of the past that loads and will allow me to FINALLY get that ref model (or just export it would be fine.).

or maybe another mysterious big brain individual can appear from somewhere and giveth their knowledge

Kinda unrelated as well but like, you learnin pretty fast! I remember I was struggling with Blender for like, a month till I could comfortably use it and you already know all this in 5 days? Very cool kjshdksa.


Edit: So the weird way I mentioned before with that old modelling software that no one uses worked kinda. So now I know that's a thing. A bit big to put on a catto tho (and its already a somewhat small model). It's the computer from Pokemon USUM, in case your wondering. I wasn't sure how to apply textures in that program, but I am pretty sure if I did it would have exported the textures to .material as well (it had that option in the exporter). Idk, just thought I would mention that as a progress thing. And btw, it doesn't have any kind of importer thing, so it still doesn't completely solve my problem djkshfkhd


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Introduction / Rollin back after like, three years now hjhjjkhk
« on: November 26, 2020, 03:20:32 am »
Ayyoo. My only post on here was asking a dumb question in the past, but I am nostalgic for forums these days (especially ones like these) so who knows, maybe I'll be on here somewhere.

So like, I really played this game back in like, 2017 or so. No one probably remembers me at all cuz I never like, engaged (then again, could just be there were a lot of people. Even though the game was considered "dead" at the time, I still never really saw the same person twice. I mean now it would probably be considered really dead cuz like, maybe I was just on at a bad hour but all the people who would sit around the entrance are gone now. Which I guess is kinda good because now it doesn't lag but still. Kinda makes all the open places a bit more lonely, ngl).

I mainly came back cuz I saw a video talking about the game (I bet a lot of people are coming back because of that sjdhskhd) and I was like "Wow, this game still exists, poggers. Hey, maybe I can finally make all those things that I couldn't make when I was like, 13." (I really wanted to make a map back in the day. Planned it out and everything. But my dumb brain couldn't understand height maps lol)

I think the last time I was here the dating section had gone boom (Because I guess it still existed on the forums even though it was against the rules and then one day it was just filled up with spam) and someone found the source code or somethin and thats why this game is finally getting updates? Or maybe it's still lost and it's just magiky reverse engineering idk jshdkah

Really nostalgic tho to see all the old friends I used to have and old groups I used to be in. And now that I am more big brain, I can finally properly attend events (I could never figure out how to get maps to work) and hopefully actually make stuff too.

I'm gonna probably be doin a bit o' rebrandin from that one stupid kid who said "Hai guys" unironically and didn't realize that you had to take maps out of folders to use them tooo.... Uhhh... Someone who you see run past you every now and again... Then again that was my brand in the past so uhh... Ye... Probably gonna try and get back into roleplay tho (as is the purpose of this game). Maybe advertising those has moved over here, idk. Never really was big on it in the past, I just kinda vibed (I forget why this game held my attention then.) Used to log on every morning before I went to school but I never really... Did... Anything... Didn't even really participate in the groups I was in either. Just kinda, stalked in em I guess? I mean, there was that one dragon roleplay, but we were never able to get back together after the first day so... Yeah sad. Maybe now in the age of discord though, things are more organized idk.

Not quite sure how long I will be riding this nostalgia high before I jump off the face of the Earth again but hey, for now maybe I'll be scooting around the forums a bit and seeing what I can see. So for now, HELLO AGAIN FH! AND HELLO AGAIN OLD STYLE FORUMS!! Oh, how I missed both now. Especially the forums though. Call those Invision forums or whatever sleek but imo, the only true sleek is nice reloady html. None of that slidy css shit. (though I do miss having drafts)

Also, THIS IS THE ONE TIME I MISS ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ADVERTISE THEMSELVES NON-STOP, HOURS ON END, WITH YOUR SPECIALIZED RECRUITMENT ACCOUNTS, WHERE THE HELL ARE Y'ALL AT!? WHERE'S YOUR MOVIE SPAM!?



Also, side note, but if any of y'all have seen some people by the names of "PixelTheDragon", "Sata.", "MerakiWolf1123", or "sammie556" around, please lemme know cuz like... I kinda wanna talk again, y'know hsdjkhas.

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Game Help / Modern way to make items?
« on: November 26, 2020, 12:37:41 am »
So its been a good long while since I've played this game. I think like... 2016-2017? Anyways, now that I am older, I am a bit more big brain when it comes to things I wanted to do back in the day. So I wanted to make, like, a cute custom hat that fits in with one of my characters. But as y'all know, this game is, like, almost 10 years old at this point, and it runs on a really old engine. And that's where I am having problems. Back in the day these resources were probably much easier to access and use, but now a lot of things have changed, especially what's available, and that's why I am here. I just wanna know if there's, like, a modern, streamlined way to make avatar items?

I was hoping it would just be, like, put ref model in Blender, model around it, export, attach to proper bone, done, like I did with a VRC thing but, even though the little "Blender2Ogre" plugin says that it works with 2.8x (my personal version of choice), it wouldn't open (nor the really old importer). Tried getting 2.79 and using them in there but when I tried importing a few meshes the importer would throw errors and the exporter just wouldn't even start. So that was kinda a bust.

I found a object tutorial involving a pretty old, kinda Hammer styled software called DeleD which would allow me to export to Ogre's files. But not import. So I would have no sort of reference as to, like, the size of the head to model it around (since its kind of a hood looking thing). Probably would be fine for like, map objects, where you just kinda can have a bit of a trial and error process to get em to the size you want. But clothing items are a lot more precise and again, I need a ref of some kind so I know how big to make the head and all.

So yeah, I'm kinda stuck. The tutorials are kinda old (or are covered up by the new animation mods (Maybe I'll try that as well, idk. I just have no idea what I would make in the first place.). A lot of sites and things have changed over the years, making it really hard to follow them. And I just wanted to know if maybe some of y'all are keepin like, trade secrets or item making has become a lost art...



Also, question, I remember there used to be a moderator called, like, Kiki something I'm not sure. She was like, green-ish with horns I think. What happened to her? I don't see her on the staff list anywhere (but I see her on that little slidy thing at the top with the blue pac man looking thing, second to last in the big row). And what happened to that RedLineLies clone that would sit next to the tree in the entrance (I mean, I wasn't on at the most optimal time, so maybe he just wasn't online. Idk, just thought to ask in case he finally got banned or got bored with just sitting under the same tree.)?

And side note but like, thank you y'all for keeping this game alive. Ik I wasn't really around during the time it was really big, or even when the original maps were around (blame my overprotective parents lol) but this game still has a lot of fond memories. I got reminded of them recently when I saw a video on this game (maybe y'all have seen that video too idk) which is why I am back here. Y'all really have stood the test of time. So many old style MMOs have been disappearing lately, but I am really glad to see that this game hasn't changed that much since I left. Very pog, thank you for your service (Oof, kinda be soundin like yall are soldiers or somethin. Then again, you kinda are for stickin around in this old ass game from the early 2010s. Not that that's a bad thing. This game has style.)

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Ohhh, ok. Thank you!

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Yes. Here is the screenshot.
(edit: OK, screenshot not working, give me a sec)
(edit again: I think it is working...)
(edit final: Ok, the site is apparently banned now.)

(edit final: you might have to go to the site...)
https://ibb.co/ejJMpU

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Yes, they are in there. I just checked.

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