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So, I've been playing Feral Heart for just under two weeks and I really like the game. I like the availability of role players and the different skill levels that comes with. Good job making and keeping an environment like that!
However, I do have one big concern "General" -- I know that I can turn it off, but I do like to see the occasional advertisement and participate in some of the conversations that take place. My problem is that the attitude that some people bring to General is very hostile. It makes me (as a new player) feel rather unwelcome. Especially when people's role play skills are called out and mocked or when one player is verbally abusing another player publicly( or privately, I suppose.)
Now, this didn't happen to me before you go and assume that ( I feel kind of like I have to be on the defense here because what I have seen of the community, not that everyone has this attack attack attack attitude...) I am what is considered "illiterate" or "semi-literate." But I often find myself trying to stick up for the underdogs. I think that as a community we need to stop attacking each other and get along.
If you don't want to join a "semi-literate" role play, then don't. It's simple as that, guys. :] There is absolutely no need to go into general chat and shame someone for how they like to role play. This applies to the other side as well, of course.
Let's all get along and leave that negative attitude off of General. <3
DISCLAIMER: This thread is not meant to call anyone in specific out. I am not speaking of a specific incident in my example but it IS an issue I have seen repeatedly.
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There has been tons and tons of countless discussions over this topic honestly. While I completely agree with you about keeping the negative attitudes out of general chat, we can't eliminate them entirely xD Though I HAVE seen a lot of improvement over the estimated year and a half of being here on FH. All we can do is keep the positive attitudes ourselves and try to make it contagious. :)
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Yes, I do understand what your saying and I feel the same. At times it can be hostile, yet luckily there are mods and good members there to calm to the people causing this uprising of hostile members. Yet aside from that, there ARE other things on general, like actual discussions or funny stuff, but I do know how you feel, especially when I first joined which was way BACK.
Especially when people's role play skills are called out and mocked or when one player is verbally abusing another player publicly( or privately, I suppose.)
This has been seen by many members, and I'm very ashamed to say that I may have done it in the past, but i later stopped. But people like myself are sometimes a bit picky when it comes to who joins their RP. But I do understand the point you are getting at.
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This is about me, ain't it? Aww, I'm sorry, it's just my nature to argue. You don't /have/ to reply. I like it when people do, though. c;
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Yeah, I seen you earlier. O3O Herrooooooooooo. o3o
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Necro, please be polite to other users, floof. Arguing with people for your own personal enjoyment isn't a thing to be proud of, and bullying is not allowed on the FH site or game.
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This is about me, ain't it? Aww, I'm sorry, it's just my nature to argue. You don't /have/ to reply. I like it when people do, though. c;
This thread isn't directed at anyone nor is it meant to call anyone out in particular. It's meant to be more of a "Lets all work together and make general a little bit more polite" sort of thing.
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What Necroo was doing wasn't bullying, so she's in no infringement of any feral heart rules. And what started as a simple question asking got out of hand in this case. Both parties were being argumentative, not just one side. It could have easily been dropped on both ends. One person can't always be blamed, but one person can surely always milk the victim role.
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What Necroo was doing wasn't bullying, so she's in no infringement of any feral heart rules. And what started as a simple question asking got out of hand in this case. Both parties were being argumentative, not just one side. It could have easily been dropped on both ends. One person can't always be blamed, but one person can surely always milk the victim role.
... No one is playing victim or calling out names here. Like I stated previously this thread is about an attempt to keep general more polite and welcoming.
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Necro, please be polite to other users, floof. Arguing with people for your own personal enjoyment isn't a thing to be proud of, and bullying is not allowed on the FH site or game.
There is a difference between arguing and bullying, and if people believe that Nec or someone else is bullying them, when they are actually having a discussion/argument, then they have every right to pipe up and ask them to stop. That would be the logical solution to stopping it, instead of taking it to heart and using these 'emotions'.
There are always going to people who are naturally negative and cynical, and if you are not one of these people, you're going to have to learn to not take their words personally. Or, we're just going to have to stay out of General and have our arguments in local.
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Naw, Wolffie, I wasn't really even arguing. I just asked what "semi-literate" actually meant, since some people who call themselves that are completely "illiterate", and others decently "literate", so I was (and still am) curious as to what the general definition is. I wasn't abusing "illiterates" or "semi-literates" and I certainly wasn't bullying anyone.
I might start arguments, but I do not bully, and to be fair, that wasn't even an argument.
And I /do/ get a little annoyed when people put words into my mouth about putting people down when I never said a word against anything or anyone.
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If you don't want to join a "semi-literate" role play, then don't. It's simple as that, guys. :] There is absolutely no need to go into general chat and shame someone for how they like to role play. This applies to the other side as well, of course.
While general has users who are rude on a number of topics, you chose a particular one, in which case, is calling out to a certain user.
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I have seen General chat and even the local chat get pretty ugly sometimes. I don't agree at all with the many forms of bashing that goes on in this game but especially the bashing of people's RP skills. This game is supposed to provide a carefree non hostile environment for its users but some users decide to be down right rude, obnoxious, and just break the rules. Just today I encountered a group of warrior cats being very nasty to this one individual who had what some would consider as "poor" RP skills and grammar. People need to seriously grow up and stop the discrimination in this game. It's very disapppointing that certain individuals can act so hateful to the point that they can make this game and the whole RP experience unpleasant. It's so bad that whenever I approach either an RP group or General chat I have to approach with timid caution because people will shread your head off literally over silly things like misspells etc.
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If you don't want to join a "semi-literate" role play, then don't. It's simple as that, guys. :] There is absolutely no need to go into general chat and shame someone for how they like to role play. This applies to the other side as well, of course.
While general has users who are rude on a number of topics, you chose a particular one, in which case, is calling out to a certain user.
...Er, are you sure? I've seen this particular conversation happen repeatedly over General chat. I will stand by what I said:
This thread is not calling out any specific user or their actions, but for the community as a whole to realize that there is another breathing, feeling, human being reading what's being said.
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This thread is not calling out any specific user or their actions, but for the community as a whole to realize that there is another breathing, feeling, human being reading what's being said.
Nobody is innocent, and it takes two opposing forces to cause friction. On the subjects of arguments/debates/discussions, they would not affect anyone if people would either not join in; stop whilst they're behind; not take it personally. They're a person on the other side of a screen, for crying out loud. Why should anyone care what they say? I'd understand if it was a personal argument between friends, but it sounds to me like it's not the case in this situation.
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This thread isn't directed at anyone nor is it meant to call anyone out in particular. It's meant to be more of a "Lets all work together and make general a little bit more polite" sort of thing.
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You don't have to quote your own words, we've read what you've posted. The point is, people shouldn't be so sensitive about a couple of words. If it is cyber bullying, then the same should apply. Unfortunately, we've a lot of children playing this game, and they rarely know how to handle it.
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I don't mean to be argumentative when I say this but I am completely against any sort of bullying ever, so it's a big deal to me and it's a concern that I'd like to express. And maybe even attempt to abolish. :]
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I think the best thing you should do Leaf when you see anyone being bullied is to screenshot the people and report them then just block out all the hostile and offensive people afterwards. There really isn't anything that can be done about this no matter how frustrating it is. There will always be people starting trouble in game and bullying others. The best we can do is to just try to eliminate them from the community through proper reporting not just reporting just because they upset you but because you genuinely see them as a hazard or nuisance to the integrity of the community and site as a whole.
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I think the best thing you should do Leaf when you see anyone being bullied is to screenshot the people and report them then just block out all the hostile and offensive people afterwards. There really isn't anything that can be done about this no matter how frustrating it is. There will always be people starting trouble in game and bullying others. The best we can do is to just try to eliminate them from the community through proper reporting not just reporting just because they upset you but because you genuinely see them as a hazard or nuisance to the integrity of the community and site as a whole.
How would I go about sending in those screen shots? Is there a dedicated report email address or way to send in screenshots?
not just reporting just because they upset you
I wouldn't do this anyway. :P
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How would I go about sending in those screen shots? Is there a dedicated report email address or way to send in screenshots?
Yes all you have to do is send the screenshots via private message to any of the staff here on the forum. Here is a link to all the staff:
http://feral-heart.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=28&Itemid=52 (http://feral-heart.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=28&Itemid=52)
Scroll down and there's an option to send them a private message under each name. I tend to send it to the admins mainly since they have more authority on site. Just make sure it is for a valid reason.
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I honestly do not think that this is just about some words thrown around in this chat Zar, this about something more and I believe the poster of this topic just wanted to enlighten something that so many simply push away for various reasons, maybe even don't mind, but the truth is this behavior is not really wanted in general. Sure there's those who take things to personal at times but in all honesty there's many things said that could've just been zipped shut all together.
At hand this topic was about how general chat can seem aggressive/hostile, it's not a positive subject exactly but I don't see how some of the replies in this thread helps. It's not a fiction exactly that General chat in a place like fluorite can be extremely hostile towards newer users, and it's very VERY rarely I see players try to give tips and help towards newer or just unaware users, instead it usually goes by yelling or trolling, almost scaring users away.
You can't just go up and talk about how there's two teams in this, especially since one of them is not exactly playing "fair", sure we should be able to discuss and share opinions, but just because something thinks it's "ok" to be a bumhole and that it requires two to start a conflict or argument, doesn't always mean it's a valid point of defense in this. We want users to be polite, even if it's the internet or users are sitting behind a screen, and this topic was about how users appeared hostile in this chat, no names mentioned or fingers pointed in the thread.
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I'm not going to lie, and most that see me on FH know it. I'm rather.. rolepaly picky. I mean I don't mind semi-lits at all or even illiterates. I usually just ignore them and move on. The thing that really gets me annoyed and usually causes me to come off rude towards illiterates and other styles of roleplays; has to do with powerplaying. Not even in a roleplay. Like when you're simply sitting there and out of nowhere you get someone who jumps on you for no reason. Like legit I've had people come up to me and be all "*bites neck and kills no take backs*"
And it's like.. What? I wasn't even roleplaying with you..? Where did you even come from? It's usually those sort of scenarios that get me fired up and sorta turn me in to a literate/grammar nazi arse. Which ends up me trolling them.. So I can see how I suppose that could be taken as bashing. Whats bad is when you try and explain you're not roleplaying with them or into it they accuse you, yourself, of powerplaying/godmodding. I mean really that just ticks me off so bad. Learn your definitions before flinging them around.
I mean I don't mind iliterates, like I said I usually just avoid them and stick to strictly literate roleplays. Heck I don't even mind roleplaying with and helping illiterates and semi-literates try and better their roleplaying skills if they're up to it. Offer advice and such.
It's just those.. seriously, down right annoying ones who get me fired up personally. So in advance I'm sorry if I've ever come off as rude to anyone. x: I know this isn't aimed at any one person, I just sort of feel guilty now for being one of those rather rude illiterate bashers. What skill people choose to roleplay shouldn't really matter.