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Title: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Hiccupby on December 08, 2012, 08:16:36 am
Seeing that items are now enabled and already some fantastic wing items have been devised by Tetsu I am wondering if it's possible if our talented mesh-makers out there could make items that are different (and new) forms of manes/tufts for our characters? The possibilities of manes/hair styles would thus be endless and even layered if some new styles were added as items. Of course for those wanting a more specific color there is the option of modifying the texture of the item for presets.  Here are some hair items (I guess we could pretty much call them wigs at this point)that would be fantastic to see:
Linx/long cheek tufts
Fluffy tuft for the base of the ears
Shaggy long hair for the belly, neck, and cheeks (Like long flowy hair on a dog such as a collie)
 and of course. . for anime fans there is the endless possibility of various wigs/hairstyles that could be added as items.
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Tetsune on December 08, 2012, 05:56:41 pm
It may be possible.
The biggest problem is that the movement wouldn't go with the body if it needs to be assigned to more than one bone. It wouldn't bend with the body. ;c (I've tried with a backfin item I've made that's in the works.)

But if it were head-only, then I'm sure it'd be great! The only other problem is the texture/ color not easily being changed. It'd be more like Presets.
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Smiling.Sin on December 08, 2012, 06:44:15 pm
You could make many default colors, like red, blue, yellow, black white, etc.
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Hiccupby on December 09, 2012, 07:36:54 am
It may be possible.
The biggest problem is that the movement wouldn't go with the body if it needs to be assigned to more than one bone. It wouldn't bend with the body. ;c (I've tried with a backfin item I've made that's in the works.)

But if it were head-only, then I'm sure it'd be great! The only other problem is the texture/ color not easily being changed. It'd be more like Presets.
Yeah I realized that and it's an excellent point- It'd be nowhere near as awesome as adding actual new tufts and manes but it'd be a good start and people could make due with their imaginations. The item fitting with the animations would be rather jarring but I think people will look past that. It's kind of like in Spore when you make a really complex and awesome creature- but the parts don't move well with it; the animation doesn't look quite right but the aesthetics make up for it.
Thanks for your thoughts guys ^^
oh- and even if you could only get the right color through presets I'd still whole-heartedly go for it. And default colors are a good start kinda like the different eye color items.
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Tetsune on December 09, 2012, 08:32:59 pm
Not to mention it's be using the same texture for manes we get, and it'd be easy enough to recolor it.
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Okami-Shiranui on December 09, 2012, 10:23:58 pm
This would be a nice feature, but I can't see it happening. It would be very hard to get it to flow with the rest of the body, and would consume a lot of time. I may be wrong, though!
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Tetsune on December 10, 2012, 02:03:55 am
This would be a nice feature, but I can't see it happening. It would be very hard to get it to flow with the rest of the body, and would consume a lot of time. I may be wrong, though!
Actually, if it's just a head tuft, it can go fine with the head-bone assignment. It's just when it leaks onto the neck that it's not possible.
Basically it needs to be on one area.
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Hiccupby on December 10, 2012, 04:09:23 am
Is there a way you could make a hairstyle that's divided into 2 items- one part is an item that goes onto the neck and the other part is on the head? that way the hairpieces would fit better with the animations?
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Tetsune on December 10, 2012, 04:11:06 am
It's possible.
They probably wouldn't go together incredibly well, but it would work.
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Hiccupby on December 10, 2012, 03:47:36 pm
I think it's worth trying- atleast for aesthetics sake.
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Bloo. on December 10, 2012, 05:11:14 pm
Well, I have now fallen in love with this idea, Galiou...i will stalk you until you make some xD Even just some simple tufts and manes.
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Hiccupby on December 11, 2012, 02:32:18 am
Well, I have now fallen in love with this idea, Galiou...i will stalk you until you make some xD Even just some simple tufts and manes.
thank you so much for your support friend <3 I was hoping it'd catch on. Thanks to all y'all. And Glitch . . .your siggy made me laugh sooo hard!
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Feareh on December 11, 2012, 05:04:08 am
I find this a intresting idea, but sadly I dont see this working to much. I mean, it takes much calculations and positioning to place the items in the right place. And if its a item its going to have to stay under the four item limit we are only allowed to use.

If you want like tuffs and other fantastic things like that. Mabye try geting a preset that looks like tha same thing with shadings and highlights
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Tetsune on December 11, 2012, 01:30:41 pm
It's actually pretty possible, Feareh.
I've worked with items a lot, and if you position it right in the middle, the coding isn't that much more work. Just adjustments.
I'll be working on some today to see if it looks okay c:
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Hiccupby on December 11, 2012, 06:03:16 pm
It's actually pretty possible, Feareh.
I've worked with items a lot, and if you position it right in the middle, the coding isn't that much more work. Just adjustments.
I'll be working on some today to see if it looks okay c:
wow really? that's amazing! is there the possibility of posting progress pics on this thread? I'd greatly appreciate it ^_^
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Tetsune on December 11, 2012, 09:09:15 pm
Sure, when I actually can!
I'm still learning 3D meshing, and hair is one of the things I really need to work on xD
This will be good practice.
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Hiccupby on December 11, 2012, 09:16:36 pm
Sure, when I actually can!
I'm still learning 3D meshing, and hair is one of the things I really need to work on xD
This will be good practice.
It's awesome to hear that you are willing ^^ I think some other meshers should take a peek at this idea  too. glad that this offers some useful practice!
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Tetsune on December 12, 2012, 12:58:14 am
(http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/12/34519575014-orig.jpg)
So this is one of the tufts I'm working on :'D
I still have to texture it, but I think it's pretty decent.
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Hiccupby on December 12, 2012, 01:53:18 am
Oh my glob yes! that looks really good! would cheek tufts work too? (the ones we currently have are NOT fluffy enough >:T) Do you need any help texturing?
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Sekmeht on December 12, 2012, 02:32:00 am
I may be entirely wrong here, but would it be possible to actually add them as manes/tufts? The person with the claw mod did something similar, I think.
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Hiccupby on December 12, 2012, 02:37:54 am
I may be entirely wrong here, but would it be possible to actually add them as manes/tufts? The person with the claw mod did something similar, I think.
You mean Tiggs? that'd be an excellent question to ask her I should think!
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Tetsune on December 12, 2012, 04:04:05 am
I'm using the default mane texture for now, but AC3D  sucks when it comes to texturing lol
I wouldn't mind a little help in that c:

As for cheek tufts, I'll try it!
Title: Re: a way to add new manes/tufts. . ?
Post by: Hiccupby on December 12, 2012, 04:21:09 am
I'll do what I can as far as making it look good- just not sure how to format it so it's  a texture is all XD