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It bugs me that so many people are negative towards Warrior Cat Role Players. I mean most of the people that are negative to them/about them have never once Role Played as one or read the books. I think people in Fluorite (and on the forums) should just drop the rant. Don't hate them if you have never tried to Role Play as one. Whenever I go into Fluorite, people start yelling at me and saying hurtful things about my Warriors Role Play when they have never joined. I want to know why so many people claim to "hate" them and their ways?
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I'm afraid it's due to powerplayers being common in those roleplays.
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I-... Don't hate them, but I do understand why people are wary. They attract many, many younger players, many of whom are entirely new to roleplay; they likely don't know that powerplaying, map claiming and the like is wrong! It's why it has such a terrible reputation in the game. There's undoubtedly mature, brilliant and considerate WC roleplayers around (I've had the pleasure of roleplaying with some yesterday on my wolf!), but the large majority of mapless groups (the public roleplays people are most likely to encounter) are rather questionable in terms of nature and riddled with aforementioned problems. It's hard not to notice them when they try to bar non-WC roleplayers from even sitting in the same area as them. If I had a pound for every time I've been 'killed' by a kit...!
There's also the fact that there's simply so many WC roleplays around; they're flooding out all the non-WC advertisements! My friends do get a little irritated when they're advertising for their original groups in general-- their posts are instantly spammered off the page by a dozen carbon-copy Warriors groups.
It's a shame that the few, considerate Warrior Cat roleplayers are outnumbered! Even so, they certainly don't deserve any abuse. You should, however, screenshot, report and block folk whenever they harass you; it's against the rules. That way, they'll get exactly what they deserve-- no roleplayer should ever be harassed for their likes! :(
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^ What Nemena said.
Another factor that I've noticed is that every time a certain type of roleplay becomes a 'fad' (or just particularly popular for an extended period of time), there are just oodles and bunches of people who will dislike and pit themselves against the popular species, just because. (Which, it's really silly, if you ask me.)
While there have always been warriors running around, I do remember when there was a HUGE fad for lions, where the game was almost nothing but lions (this was when I first joined about two years ago), and then it went into a wolf phase, where lions were almost nowhere to be found. And, now it's mostly warriors (not to say there's not any wolves or lions left, which simply isn't true. xD It's really quite diverse, I know.) Either way, it's natural to see tons of their advertisements floating around General in Flourite.
As Nemena said, there's a share of beautifully considerate, creative and original warrior cats out there that are just a joy to roleplay with, and, of course, there's the other players that are attracted to warriors because they've read the books, and they like it.
Granted, I like the books. I like roleplaying as a warrior every now and then. c; There is nothing wrong with warriors, the same way there's really nothing wrong with any other species out there.
The people that say they hate all people who roleplay as warriors are probably just being butthurts about one or two bad experiences they had with some.
Yes, the kitties can be dramatic at times, but there's a much more beautiful side to the Clans, too. So, don't let it get to ya. :3
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Most people are negative about Warrior Cats because of how they powerplay and claim public maps.
They tend to powerplay people much bigger than them and will caps rage often too, in some cases. They do also flood the chat with ads as Nemena said. People have many bad experiences with Warrior Cats sometimes, and can grow to hate them.
~sits here praying no one will yell at my post~
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Most people are negative about Warrior Cats because of how they powerplay and claim public maps.
They tend to powerplay people much bigger than them and will caps rage often too, in some cases. They do also flood the chat with ads as Nemena said. People have many bad experiences with Warrior Cats sometimes, and can grow to hate them.
~sits here praying no one will yell at my post~
Hey, floof. No shame in sharing your opinion-- this thread is a discussion, so it's alright to do that, so long as you're not victimizing/bullying anyone.
Which, you aren't~
I do understand where you're coming from, and it's like what Nemena and I were getting at. There's always going to be groups of them that aren't exactly the best at what they do (xD), but that doesn't ring true for every warrior roleplayer.
When you encounter the bad ones, well, just go your own way and don't let them get to ya. (Of course, if they're breaking game rules, take screenshots and PM them to a mod, but that's beside the point.)
Don't use it to judge the whole of those roleplayers, though, since there's always a bright side to this kind of thing. c:
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I'm not a big fan of Warrior Cat roleplays but I don't hate them.
Its sad to say this but most Warrior Roleplays do have alot of powerplay.
And most of them are at max size... then again I don't think thats as bad since its kinda there own roleplay.
But going back to the powerplaying.. many of them say they have ''powers'' and try to take over others.
Alot of the public roleplays like to start fights with other roleplays as well.
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I understand what all of you are saying, though it just makes me angry and very put down when people judge my Warriors Role Play off of what the mappless Warriors do. I have even had some cases of people (mostly wolves) scaring off my brand new members I spent a lot of time and effort advertising for. Now I'm not trying to say wolves are bad and mean for scaring off my members it's just over the time I have seen that lions and other feline species deal/cope with it a lot better than the canines. I am not just an all Warriors Role Player, I have canines and felines alike. I just want to know why tth people judge before they know
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Thats why I like mapped roleplays better.
Most of the time they last longer and the rp does not have to worry about others in there way.
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Come here home dawg, I get exactly where you are coming from cx I used to be a hard-core Warriors RPer, having my whole account just FILLED with Warrior cats. I would also have a lot of run-ins like you, people discriminating against me because of what my character was, not how I roleplayed. At first, it hurt me like it does to you, but then, after talking to some other friends, we realized no matter what we do, those people aren't going to change how they feel. So then I just started ignoring them (its easier if you know who does it, and then just dont read their posts, or better yet, block them) and tried to get the members who were being chased away to join by whispering them. Don't be discouraged Dark c: They will stop bothering you once they figure out you simply don't care (and even if you do, just act like you don't)
And why they judge? Well think of all the popular singers, artist, and anything else out there. Think about the huge following they have. Then think about the haters. Its a rule of life, if some one or something is popular, there is naturally going to be people who don't like it. Whether is be because they think it would be cool to not like it or that they honestly just cant stand it, the haters are always going to be there. So like I said, just try to ignore them c:
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I understand what all of you are saying, though it just makes me angry and very put down when people judge my Warriors Role Play off of what the mappless Warriors do. I have even had some cases of people (mostly wolves) scaring off my brand new members I spent a lot of time and effort advertising for. Now I'm not trying to say wolves are bad and mean for scaring off my members it's just over the time I have seen that lions and other feline species deal/cope with it a lot better than the canines. I am not just an all Warriors Role Player, I have canines and felines alike. I just want to know why tth people judge before they know
That's sad to hear.
Like some of the people posted on here, most of these Warrior roleplayers powerplay and map-claim. NOT every Warrior roleplayer does that, I've met some good ones and we are good friends.
I think some of these people say such things about Warriors based upon some bad experiences they had when they encountered hostile Warrior RPers.When I was new here to Feral Heart, I ran into some Warrior cat roleplayers while I was on my first fox character. Back then, I knew nothing about the Warriors series so I didn't know what to expect. They all started attacking me, trying to claw my eyes out and tear my head off. Me being new, I didn't know what the heck was going on! I asked them "Why are you attacking me? What did I do wrong?" One of them said, "You steal our kittens, you steal our food, and you stink to high Heaven! Get out of our territory or we WILL KILL YOU!" So I high-tailed it out of there and after that, I didn't want to go anywhere near another clan. Later, I asked a friend about why the clan cats attacked me like that and she told me what foxes were like to clan cats in the books. So I found out they were just going by the books.
Eventually, I started participating in Warrior RPs, just to learn more about Warriors. I found a nice active clan to be with and made some nice RP friends. I watched how they would roleplay as Warrior cats and pretty much learned all about Warriors through watching them. I really enjoyed roleplaying as a warrior cat with this clan, and we still roleplay and derp around with each other today.
I too participate in Warrior RPs. I have three different warrior characters for three different Warrior RPs. Believe it or not, some of my characters get put down by others because of what their names are.
For example, I have a Warrior leader named Pharaohstar, and he leads PapyrusClan. I've had people constantly come up to me and tell me that warriors would know nothing about Ancient Egypt and that my RP clan was a total fail! They also said that cats wouldn't know anything about papyrus scrolls, and I tell them "The clan was named after the papyrus PLANT, not the paper!" Before the papyrus became a paper scroll, it was a plant that grew along the Nile River. A papyrus plant is something that can be found in nature, right? So why question whether it's a suiting name for a clan or not?
And then there is Pharaohstar. His name got alot of thumbs down from some die-hard Warrior fans. It's MY character, I can name him whatever I want! Yes his name isn't very realistic and wouldn't go by the books. But I chose that name for him and the clan name because NO ONE else had made a clan called PapyrusClan. NO ONE else had a leader called Pharaohstar.... so both names were up for grabs. They are unique, and I like unique. People assume that just because they have Egyptian based names, my clan and RP isn't realistic. WRONG! My clan functions like any other clan. We do our little apprentice and warrior ceremonies like any other clan does. We have ranks and patrols like any other clan does. The only thing that makes PapyrusClan different from the other clans is their ties to Ancient Egypt, since many of the members are direct descendants from the temple cats of Egypt. After all, cats play an important role in history when it comes to Ancient Egypt. The Egyptians were the ones to domesticate the small wild felines of Africa, and turn them into the loveable pets we have today. :D
So to answer your question, NO I do NOT hate the Warriors. Just because I posted those topics of "Lion-Sized Warrior Cats?" or "Not Every Fox is "Evil": Warrior RPers Get Too Carried Away" it doesn't mean that I hate them! I just state my own opinions and want to hear what everyone else has to say about it. I like hearing other peoples opinions. I don't want you to think that I hate Warriors and hate people who roleplay as warriors, because I don't! I participate in Warrior roleplays too.
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I didn't make this thread because of the lion-sized thing, just so you know, I made it because my friend IRL called me and told me his experience in Fluorite. (just wanted to make sure you knew that it wasnt you who made me start this thread ^^)
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The negativity and general idea of Warrior Cats is a little unfair. There may be a lot of younger players and new players that probably don't have a lot of experience in roleplaying in Warrior Cat clans.
But there's also very literate clans out there. They mainly hide in mapped roleplays, and so mainly people see the other Warrior Cat clans instead of the literate and mapped ones.
I was in some Warrior Cat roleplays myself when I was new to the game.
The roleplays that I remember did not leave a good experience...but back then I was a nub and wouldn't be accepted in more literate roleplays.
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I didn't make this thread because of the lion-sized thing, just so you know, I made it because my friend IRL called me and told me his experience in Fluorite. (just wanted to make sure you knew that it wasnt you who made me start this thread ^^)
Okay great! ^^ I didn't want you to get the wrong impression of me, or form any hard feelings. I can understand how you feel about all this. This is like me being upset and some Warrior roleplayers who automatically think my fox characters are evil, kit-killing. wicked beasts. It's not true. NONE of my fox characters are like the foxes of the books. They are just normal, friendly little foxes that like a little andventure and a little mischeif.
And like I said before, I have been judged by some Warrior roleplayers all because of some new and unpredictalbe ideas I put into my Warrior roleplays.
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About the fox thing, I understand you there. When I was 10 we lived were a lot of red foxes populated the area. Well I ended up finding three abandoned fox pups. My cat, Mama Socks, had just lost a litter of kittens and took the fox pups in as her own as she was still mourning for her dead kittens. We raised the pups with the help of my cat. Now she was not the motherly type of cat, she was pretty aggressive but after loosing her first litter of kits I think she saw the abandoned fox pups as a second chance. As for the creative ideas, you should be proud that you express yourself. The ancient egypt thing isnt that far off from realistic as cats were a big part in the way they lived. Your Role Play just takes part in a different area of the world.
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We can all blame it on those illiterate FP springups. They brought up the stereotype we all have towards warrior cat RPs. When someone thinks "Mapless Warrior Cat RP", most of us think of powerplaying, godmodding, unrealisitc, megasized cats with ridiculous names like "Mammothheart".
Generally, it's necessary they be a /little/ unproportional or you wouldn't be able to tell adult from kit, but lion sized domestic cats aren't the solution... e,e
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I'm not going to read all comments. xD Noooo...
I don't /hate/ warriors, I just happen to dislike how they roleplay. Apprentices, 'warriors, queens? Yeah. Sometimes it's not the warrior that makes me blow a fuse, it clans themselves. Clans well known around Flourite. (You know.)
Now, what everyone seems to assume is warriors are the only ones that powerplay... They're not the only ones! If you haven't seen other kinds of roleplays powerplay, then I deem you braindead. Yep. Honestly, not all warriors are powerplaying, but I just don't like the customs they follow. I have warriors myself, and sometimes, I break the 'warrior cat code' or something like that..
Now, I don't take things so literally like some people and require or 'devote' themselves to sticking by the WC books. Guess how many I've read? One. One... and I know somewhat of the WC RP.
Everyone is always like, "Ehh... the only reason we hate them is because they 'powerplay'." Uh, not all of them.
"Oohh.. they are so annoying." Your proof? I don't see them annoying.
"They've dominated Flourite... and lag the map with their battles." B-- Actually, I agree with that one. Mainly because I've made a topic of evil clans and battles. That's another reason I'm not fond of them. Attempting to make drama by making alliances with other clans and making 'wars'.
People run around saying WC has 'taken' over FP, and there isn't a day someone complains about not finding a wolf or lion RP. Now, I disagree with the topic a little. 'Everyone'? Oh ho ho, no. Not everyone is negative against Warriors if they're so popular and happen to be 'taking' over FP with their numbers. Honestly, I don't care if they're taking over, just means to keep an eye out for a roleplay that satisfies me.
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I love the warrior cat books but I tend to stay clear with warrior cat players. I do not hate them and I do not think they all are bad. But there is a lot of people who play as warrior cats that are 'evil', powerplayer, god-mods and map claimers.
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To add my side of the coin, even though the majority of you guys really mentioned most of the important parts of why some users actually might look down on warrior cats.
The negatives usually weigh more than the positives, and as shown above in the comments there's quite a few reasons why some people might dislike or have problems taking some warrior cats or roleplays seriously. But I got to admit, the age group and users "usually"(not always) roleplay as warrior cats might not have a top notch behavior towards other users and players, including things like powerplaying, god modding, land claiming, and spammy caps ads, but to be fair from what I can see, there's also another group of roleplay that gets even more bashed upon sometimes, which is the poor Lion king roleplayers in bonfire which even sometimes seem to make other members bash the whole Lion image inside of the game.
Even though there can exist some really wonderful and nice group, one incident or issue can cause a player to look down upon the whole group really and this doesn't go only for warrior cats, sadly though many of the times we cannot really say that these user are completely lying though since there is a good majority that simply hasn't learned to behave at their best towards other users. Keep a note that I am trying to keep perfect literacy out of this picture since I honestly don't see it as a reason to nudge a certain usergroup aside.
My personal deal I have with warrior cats from my own experiences is really that a good amount of these players are very territory problematic and hostile towards other characters and players, and instead of keeping things well structure within the roleplay they go straight out on the players and attack them even though the rules are very clear regarding public maps, even encountered several times warrior cat leaders running up to you and yelling at the clan to block the "stupid lion", and overall encourage bad behavior and rudeness towards the users in the game, something I cannot tolerate.
And character wise it does feel a bit weird when these kitties run around just as big as a full grown lion or wolf even, there's many sizes you can make a character, and even though the world is indeed big and completely out of proportion, compared to the majority of the characters they don't need to be that big, but this is nothing that really makes me dislike the warrior cats, it's just a little thing I can see a tad bit derp.
But yes, not all warrior cats are bad, but just as people can have a go at the hetalia roleplayers in ascension, the lion king roleplayers in bonfire, the fight dogs in ficho or in general any sort of usergroup doesn't really have to be roleplaying either, they are negative towards warrior cats. To be fair, many of the players in the game are just not respectful and considerate enough to get along which is a shame. The game and maps is really a "sharing is caring" situation, so if every player could just loosen up a bit it wouldn't nearly as bad for everyone.
Maybe the question can be, why is everyone so negative?
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I have tried...so hard, to like Warrior Cats. But it seems to me now that I can't even remember a positive experience with them during this game, it's just one disappointment after another, not only with mapless Warrior role plays, but more surprisingly with mapped WC groups. Just as a disclaimer before I get into it, I understand that not every warrior cat role player is rude or illiterate, but it seems that the vast majority of these players are unfortunately just that. And it seems to be getting worse as more and more WC's are starting to appear in Feral Heart.
For example, whenever I've joined a Warrior Cat rp, i've been so overwhelmed by the excessive use of bad and inappropriate language that i've been forced to leave the groups. Normally within an hour or less of joining, it gets that bad. I don't understand it. On the outside, I'll approach a group that seems friendly and literate, along with the fact that they're boasting a large and beautiful map, which attracts me because I love exploring new maps. I'll send in my rp sample, and as soon as I've joined them someone will immediately drop the f bomb and it will just be an unending torrent of horribly inappropriate jokes and an onslaught of profanity that I just cannot tolerate. At first I thought maybe I'm just getting unlucky. But I joined three different Warrior cat rps between yesterday and today, trying to find a nice group for my cat Maplesky, and every single one had this problem. I just couldn't believe it. Granted, there were one or two very friendly people in the rp's, but it seems to me that they just smiled and kept their silence as their more vocal clan mates just trolled on and spammed the group chat so much I wanted to just shout at them to be quiet. Perhaps you have to 'overlook' some of the more vulgar behavior to get by in a WC rp, but that kind of role play environment is just not for me. A lot of you might suggest 'well why didn't you just turn off your Group Chat?" I could have, to be sure, but getting along with a group and talking to them OOC is makes the RP worth coming back to if you can make friends with the other players in your group. Having a good community that makes you feel safe and comfortable is worth everything to me when I join a new group, and sadly I'm seeing less and less of that in a lot of rp's that I join.
There's also the problem, as Lady Alizarin mentioned above, about how strict some warrior cats can be. Particularly with the names. I once had a cat character that I absolutely adored named Winterheart, but whenever I tried to get her into a group, every time she was rejected because of her name. They would say things like 'Warrior cats called Winter time 'Leaf bare' so we wouldn't know what Winter is. I know that was in the books, but if you took that logic further, that would mean they wouldn't know what the word 'Fox' meant, or River, or Sky, or practically every single english word in the dictionary, because all of those are names /humans/ gave to the animals and objects in the world. I also find it really frustrating when I do have to change my name and after I join I find myself scrolling through the members list and picking out names like "Wraithspirit" and "Obsidianpaw".
Another thing that I absolutely could not stand about being in those warrior cat rps was their apparent infatuation with mating and having kits. Seriously, when I joined the last group before I called it quits, from the moment I was accepted to the moment I quit, the entire group was talking about how this one cat *FakeName* was going to mate with an apprentice. And then they actually did it. I was disgusted to say the least, not to mention they KEPT bringing it up. Literally the female apprentice continuously said just horrible things like "She wobbled around feeling dizzy and had to lie down" and other things like that, while in tandem going about in group chat saying "Oh, *FakeName* banged me, did you know that?"
Then it got worse. Everyone started making rape jokes. She said she was 'raped' by the male. And that she liked it. And everyone was laughing and making it seem like it was oh so funny. I couldn't hold my tongue after that. I felt sick, I felt humiliated to even be in a group that would make something as serious as rape as a joke. And I told them so. But they didn't seem to really realize the weight of their words and brushed it off. The apprentice said something along the lines of "Oh, I didn't make a joke about that...I mean I didn't mean to." and everyone was all "Ah, we know you didn't mean it." And it was just...awful. I left after that.
I really wish that Warrior Cat rp's were not like this. A while ago when they first started appearing, I hadn't even read the books but it sounded interesting and I joined a few rp's that didn't last very long but were enjoyable enough. They motivated me to read the first few WC books and I liked them. But after seeing this absolutely unacceptable behavior again, and again, and again, I cannot tolerate Warrior Cats and their Rp's in Feral Heart anymore. Let it be noted that i've never joined another type of Rp group that acted this horribly. There are just too many unsightly players that think it's okay to make vulgar jokes and act in just the rudest way possible, while the nice players just smile thinly and say nothing so they won't get kicked out. (This is a little off topic, but I also cannot stand RP's that never seem to take anything seriously. When a joke goes too far and I say something about it, like asking them to stop, everyone seems to get so /offended/. Why can't people just accept that sometimes enough is enough?)
If that's what it takes to tolerate Warrior Cats in Feral Heart, then it's not for me. And I know that I'll probably get some hate for this, but there is no love for that type of roleplay left in my heart anymore, and I will never join a WC rp again.
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Then it got worse. Everyone started making rape jokes. She said she was 'raped' by the male. And that she liked it. And everyone was laughing and making it seem like it was oh so funny. I couldn't hold my tongue after that. I felt sick, I felt humiliated to even be in a group that would make something as serious as rape as a joke. And I told them so. But they didn't seem to really realize the weight of their words and brushed it off. The apprentice said something along the lines of "Oh, I didn't make a joke about that...I mean I didn't mean to." and everyone was all "Ah, we know you didn't mean it." And it was just...awful. I left after that.
Wow..that has got to be one of the most awful things I've ever heard.
A lot of Warrior Cat roleplayers are younger, and they don't know how bad rape jokes are and why they're so bad though.
But it also saddens me that they thought it was funny in the first place. :c
Thankfully, in all the few Warrior Cat roleplays that I've joined they were never as bad as this.
Some were actually good, and I'm really happy for that. :3
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My personal deal I have with warrior cats from my own experiences is really that a good amount of these players are very territory problematic and hostile towards other characters and players, and instead of keeping things well structure within the roleplay they go straight out on the players and attack them even though the rules are very clear regarding public maps, even encountered several times warrior cat leaders running up to you and yelling at the clan to block the "stupid lion", and overall encourage bad behavior and rudeness towards the users in the game, something I cannot tolerate.
Aye, I see a lot of this, and I correlate it with a certain level of 'roleplay maturity', as I sometimes explain it.
Granted, I understand the fact that in Warrior culture, the Clans are fiercely territorial, and seeing another cat come into their lands is certainly something to get your tail fluffed up over. It's just how it works with them. This said, in the setting of a storyline, in character, it's natural to see a full-grown warrior get defensive if an intruder encroaches on his Clan's turf. And so, there follows a tense situation, that sometime may turn into a fight within the story.
Of course, this is where the significance of keeping "In-Character/Real Roleplaying" and "Out Of Character" speech separated at all times. If this is ignored, there can and will be miscommunications between the roleplayers, and the fight between a couple of characters can very quickly turn into bitter feelings between users of the game.
It's this quality (or lack thereof) that makes a roleplayer 'mature' (regardless of how they roleplay, be it literate, illiterate, etc.).
--So, if this big attack Warrior is suddenly coming after some intruder, saying something like "This is my Clan's territory-- Leave or be attacked."
In the story of a warrior, this is fairly accurate. However, if the 'intruder' makes it clear that they aren't roleplaying, and are merely passing through, or are choosing to sit in that spot, then a mature roleplayer would realize this, and simply let that person go along.
After all, they can't claim territory in a public map.
But, if this Warrior continues to attack, perhaps ridiculing the 'intruder' for not succumbing to his sharp, scary claws, he's simply ignoring the fact that he's beginning to step out of the roleplay setting, and starting to just step onto somebody's tail, and especially stepping on the game rules.
It's that kind of thing, the plain lack of acceptance that they're sharing a map with others who aren't roleplaying with them (as Red explained), that encourages those who don't see that In-Character/Out Of Character boundary to simply be rude to other players whenever they're playing a Warrior.
And so, that's often where we get warrior cats suddenly going from roleplaying in-character, to yelling at other, innocent users and starting arguments over ridiculous issues.
This can happen in any species, of course, but it is the nature of warriors that sometimes gets them in trouble with this.
Then it got worse. Everyone started making rape jokes. She said she was 'raped' by the male. And that she liked it. And everyone was laughing and making it seem like it was oh so funny. I couldn't hold my tongue after that. I felt sick, I felt humiliated to even be in a group that would make something as serious as rape as a joke. And I told them so. But they didn't seem to really realize the weight of their words and brushed it off. The apprentice said something along the lines of "Oh, I didn't make a joke about that...I mean I didn't mean to." and everyone was all "Ah, we know you didn't mean it." And it was just...awful. I left after that.
Oi... That's a shame. While any character can have a dark past, or have something bad happen to them, that kind of thing (namely, speaking jokingly of something as insidious as rape in a family-based game) is simply unacceptable, and I don't blame you for leaving.
I have seen similar things in several different roleplays (not just warriors), and instances bordering along that same issue have occurred with certain (now ex-) members of my own roleplay, sometime ago.
That said, it can happen anywhere, and it should be very quickly discouraged and done away with, since you never know how close to home something that sensitive can hit, with anyone in that group, or even just passing by. It's not funny, it's not cute. It's dark, and not in any way cool to be discussed in a light manner.
*Ahem* So anyway, all of that said, I understand where you all are coming from. But, it is less directed toward warriors, as it is just issues seen in all spectrums of roleplays that run around here every day.
So the way I see it, what Red said above really did kind of sum it up; Being considerate is the name of the game, no matter what/who you are, and what/who/where you're roleplaying. If you think of others and their well-being before your own, you can't go wrong.
If you don't? Well... I think we've all seen what happens with that.
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My personal deal I have with warrior cats from my own experiences is really that a good amount of these players are very territory problematic and hostile towards other characters and players, and instead of keeping things well structure within the roleplay they go straight out on the players and attack them even though the rules are very clear regarding public maps, even encountered several times warrior cat leaders running up to you and yelling at the clan to block the "stupid lion", and overall encourage bad behavior and rudeness towards the users in the game, something I cannot tolerate.
Aye, I see a lot of this, and I correlate it with a certain level of 'roleplay maturity', as I sometimes explain it.
Granted, I understand the fact that in Warrior culture, the Clans are fiercely territorial, and seeing another cat come into their lands is certainly something to get your tail fluffed up over. It's just how it works with them. This said, in the setting of a storyline, in character, it's natural to see a full-grown warrior get defensive if an intruder encroaches on his Clan's turf. And so, there follows a tense situation, that sometime may turn into a fight within the story.
Of course, this is where the significance of keeping "In-Character/Real Roleplaying" and "Out Of Character" speech separated at all times. If this is ignored, there can and will be miscommunications between the roleplayers, and the fight between a couple of characters can very quickly turn into bitter feelings between users of the game.
It's this quality (or lack thereof) that makes a roleplayer 'mature' (regardless of how they roleplay, be it literate, illiterate, etc.).
--So, if this big attack Warrior is suddenly coming after some intruder, saying something like "This is my Clan's territory-- Leave or be attacked."
In the story of a warrior, this is fairly accurate. However, if the 'intruder' makes it clear that they aren't roleplaying, and are merely passing through, or are choosing to sit in that spot, then a mature roleplayer would realize this, and simply let that person go along.
After all, they can't claim territory in a public map.
But, if this Warrior continues to attack, perhaps ridiculing the 'intruder' for not succumbing to his sharp, scary claws, he's simply ignoring the fact that he's beginning to step out of the roleplay setting, and starting to just step onto somebody's tail, and especially stepping on the game rules.
It's that kind of thing, the plain lack of acceptance that they're sharing a map with others who aren't roleplaying with them (as Red explained), that encourages those who don't see that In-Character/Out Of Character boundary to simply be rude to other players whenever they're playing a Warrior.
And so, that's often where we get warrior cats suddenly going from roleplaying in-character, to yelling at other, innocent users and starting arguments over ridiculous issues.
This can happen in any species, of course, but it is the nature of warriors that sometimes gets them in trouble with this.
Ain't that the truth.
When ever I play as one of my Warrior cat characters, especially Pharaohstar, I don't "challenge" intruders the way the clan cats would in the books. I don't go up to people and say, "What are you doing in my clans territory!? Get OUT NOW!" Pharaohstar is the kind of leader to give others a chance to explain themselves. He will confront them and ask them in a nice manner that won't make them feel threatened. He will often times say (in character), "May I help you?" or "What brings you to my clan's camp?" I have him say that because I don't want people to feel like I or my clan is being hostile toward them. Not only that, if I were to show aggression, they may get the idea that my clan is map-claiming. Some other leaders or warriors say that Pharaohstar is too soft or too trusting ::) That's not the case. I'm being CONSIDERATE to players we have to share a map with. If someone is sitting around in our little RP space and they aren't roleplaying, I just IGNORE them. They aren't doing anything to bother us or disrupt our RP, they are just sitting there.
Besides, my clan's camp is shared with a pack of wolves. We pretty much consider them our neighbors. We don't have too many problems with them, since we both know that we have to share public maps. If we can share a space with another group, so can everyone else... because it's what the rules suggest.
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Cause Warrior Cats are stupid... *acts like that guy from spongebob*
Preferrably, cause they have no literacy at all. (ALOT OF TIMES)
I tried it once, didn't really like it even though I did not read the books. I'M TOO LAZY TO WASTE MY MONEY.
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Cause Warrior Cats are stupid... *acts like that guy from spongebob*
Preferrably, cause they have no literacy at all. (ALOT OF TIMES)
I tried it once, didn't really like it even though I did not read the books. I'M TOO LAZY TO WASTE MY MONEY.
That's a very rude thing to say, codacc. >:( That's one of the most immature things I've heard someone say on these forums. Just because we don't agree with someone or something, it doesn't make it stupid.
I know that there are Warrior roleplayers who take things too seriously and don't follow the rules of FH. But not all people who roleplay as Warrior cats are like that. There are some good ones who follow the rules and respect other players, you just have to find them. They're out there in this community.
I'm not saying you are wrong for not liking Warrior cats (everyone has their likes and disklikes, and that's fine) but saying that Warrior roleplayers are stupid is very disrespectful, and childish! Just because they enjoy the books, and enjoy roleplaying as characters from their favoraite books, it does NOT make them stupid! You should be ashamed of yourself for saying such things. Think before you post. You could really offend or anger people who really like the Warrior series and like roleplaying as Warrior cats, myself included.
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Cause Warrior Cats are stupid... *acts like that guy from spongebob*
Preferrably, cause they have no literacy at all. (ALOT OF TIMES)
I tried it once, didn't really like it even though I did not read the books. I'M TOO LAZY TO WASTE MY MONEY.
Hm.
While you are entitled to your opinion, you have to realize that a lot of people play as warriors.
I play as a warrior sometimes, honestly... Does that mean you think I'm stupid, as well? How about everyone else that's played a warrior? (I know even of several FH staff members that have played warriors before, and also rather enjoyed the books.)
Answering my own question, playing a warrior doesn't make anyone stupid, and if you haven't even read the books, you don't even realize why it's such a hype. The fact is, the series really do have a lot of heart in them, and even if they do get somewhat dramatic, one can still appreciate the stories.
As roleplayers, taking a look at the posts above yours will explain to you, over and over again, that it's usually the loud masses of less experienced (and, regrettably, the obnoxious) cats that run around in public maps that give Warriors such a bad rep. It's these guys that blind a lot of people from the truly considerate, respectful, literate, creative and truly wonderful Warrior roleplayers that exist around ever corner, if you care to look a little bit closer.
This said, I don't think it's quite right for anyone to say such negative things about anyone who plays a warrior, and especially for someone to judge the books themselves before reading them.
Again, you are entitled to your opinion, and it's alright to post it in a discussion board, but I don't think expressing it in such an insensitive way is ever a good thing to do. It's insulting to a lot of people that you sit alongside in this game every day, and like any other debate, you should really back up your opinion with legitimate reasoning, rather than one or two bad experiences.
'Cause if everyone judged groups of roleplayers like that, no one would approve of any species roaming about. No?
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I'm really a fan of Warrior Cats. :/ I've read the books, so much to read. D: Besides, I think people makes to many roleplays them, which I think it's annoying. Like ever time I see one..I'll be like. "Are you serious? What's so good about Warrior Cats?" But yeah. Sorry whomever loves,loves,loves Warriors Cats, but sorry..I personally don't like them. Another reason I don't like Warriors Cats because one person makes a mistakes from the roleplays..There's chaos and also chaos between who what's to be who..Which I think is extremely ignoring. :/ Sorry..I think Warrior Cats it's annoying. Why? Well because you have to read to all the books before acting it up..But what I do like is making up your characters and roleplays. Also, I agree with Red. Many people will be rude towards others and other stuff..That's kinda stupid and annoying to experience with Cats. :/ Thirdly, is because I don't like cats..So I'm interested of reading those things..But if I'm bored! Anyways, dislike me or agree me, but this is why I really don't like Warrior Cats..It would get chaos and others sorts. Please understand me. >.<
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I think why most people dont like warrior cats bacuae of how most act around flourite,
~They map claim
~They have no respect for others
~They attack all who enter that part of land
~They call anyone who disaagrees with them a Godmodder
~Some cause WAY to much drama
~and as some have stated above, they take heavy stuff and make it seem light, even when its very disterbing
I dont do this, i try my best to play fair, tho most my clan doesnt do what i do.
Personaly im starting to like lions and wolves more
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Cause Warrior Cats are stupid... *acts like that guy from spongebob*
Preferrably, cause they have no literacy at all. (ALOT OF TIMES)
I tried it once, didn't really like it even though I did not read the books. I'M TOO LAZY TO WASTE MY MONEY.
That's a very rude thing to say, codacc. >:( That's one of the most immature things I've heard someone say on these forums. Just because we don't agree with someone or something, it doesn't make it stupid.
I know that there are Warrior roleplayers who take things too seriously and don't follow the rules of FH. But not all people who roleplay as Warrior cats are like that. There are some good ones who follow the rules and respect other players, you just have to find them. They're out there in this community.
I'm not saying you are wrong for not liking Warrior cats (everyone has their likes and disklikes, and that's fine) but saying that Warrior roleplayers are stupid is very disrespectful, and childish! Just because they enjoy the books, and enjoy roleplaying as characters from their favoraite books, it does NOT make them stupid! You should be ashamed of yourself for saying such things. Think before you post. You could really offend or anger people who really like the Warrior series and like roleplaying as Warrior cats, myself included.
o_o... Dang, I just wanted to say something here... Really? I can't express my opinions on here? So you're gonna not let someone get it out of their body? Crap, I can't let my anger be free, amazing.
Sorry.~
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o_o... Dang, I just wanted to say something here... Really? I can't express my opinions on here? So you're gonna not let someone get it out of their body? Crap, I can't let my anger be free, amazing.
Sorry.~
You have the right to express your opinions about something. However, you shouldn't say harsh and negative things about people like that on the FH forums. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, BUT you calling Warrior roleplayers stupid is considered flamming, and it goes against the forum rules. I participate in Warrior roleplays as well, does that mean I'm stupid? You might have some good friends on this game who like roleplaying as Warrior cats. If they do, does that make them stupid too?
Hm.
While you are entitled to your opinion, you have to realize that a lot of people play as warriors.
I play as a warrior sometimes, honestly... Does that mean you think I'm stupid, as well? How about everyone else that's played a warrior? (I know even of several FH staff members that have played warriors before, and also rather enjoyed the books.)
This said, I don't think it's quite right for anyone to say such negative things about anyone who plays a warrior, and especially for someone to judge the books themselves before reading them.
Again, you are entitled to your opinion, and it's alright to post it in a discussion board, but I don't think expressing it in such an insensitive way is ever a good thing to do. It's insulting to a lot of people that you sit alongside in this game every day, and like any other debate, you should really back up your opinion with legitimate reasoning, rather than one or two bad experiences.
'Cause if everyone judged groups of roleplayers like that, no one would approve of any species roaming about. No?
WhiteLight pretty much says it better than I do. But do you understand what we are trying to say? If you don't agree with someone or something, that's fine. You can believe what you want to believe. But flamming the roleplayers and the fans by calling them stupid isn't a polite thing to do. You shouldn't judge people for the things they like to do or read. The lesson of the day is... on the FH forums, you have to choose your words carefully. You never know who you might offend.
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o_o... Dang, I just wanted to say something here... Really? I can't express my opinions on here? So you're gonna not let someone get it out of their body? Crap, I can't let my anger be free, amazing.
Sorry.~
You have the right to express your opinions about something. However, you shouldn't say harsh and negative things about people like that on the FH forums. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, BUT you calling Warrior roleplayers stupid is considered flamming, and it goes against the forum rules. I participate in Warrior roleplays as well, does that mean I'm stupid? You might have some good friends on this game who like roleplaying as Warrior cats. If they do, does that make them stupid too?
Hm.
While you are entitled to your opinion, you have to realize that a lot of people play as warriors.
I play as a warrior sometimes, honestly... Does that mean you think I'm stupid, as well? How about everyone else that's played a warrior? (I know even of several FH staff members that have played warriors before, and also rather enjoyed the books.)
This said, I don't think it's quite right for anyone to say such negative things about anyone who plays a warrior, and especially for someone to judge the books themselves before reading them.
Again, you are entitled to your opinion, and it's alright to post it in a discussion board, but I don't think expressing it in such an insensitive way is ever a good thing to do. It's insulting to a lot of people that you sit alongside in this game every day, and like any other debate, you should really back up your opinion with legitimate reasoning, rather than one or two bad experiences.
'Cause if everyone judged groups of roleplayers like that, no one would approve of any species roaming about. No?
WhiteLight pretty much says it better than I do. But do you understand what we are trying to say? If you don't agree with someone or something, that's fine. You can believe what you want to believe. But flamming the roleplayers and the fans by calling them stupid isn't a polite thing to do. You shouldn't judge people for the things they like to do or read. The lesson of the day is... on the FH forums, you have to choose your words carefully. You never know who you might offend.
I wasn't flaming, I was saying what I was saying.
I don't want this to be a war... .-. *covers my face with a pillow*
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I wasn't flaming, I was saying what I was saying.
I don't want this to be a war... .-. *covers my face with a pillow*
Shh-shshshhhh... *Hugs your face*
Floof, we aren't trying to start a war (and there is no squabble here, merely a discussion), we're just trying to make the point that you are absolutely entitled to get your opinion out there. However, when you do, just shouting it out without watching your words can indeed send out a very bad message, that goes far beyond simply expressing yourself.
Put simply, being considerate and diplomatic is the name of the game when discussing something like this, particularly when you're on the side in question.
So, just re-read what you say when you go to post something like that, that way everyone can focus on the reasoning for your opinion, rather than just the way you said it. And so, monitoring that can really go a long way for your argument's legitimacy.
/rantover.
But anyway. It's alright, Coda, just be careful next time, okie?
So. Warrior cats?
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Again as I said:
I think why most people dont like warrior cats bacuae of how most act around flourite,
~They map claim
~They have no respect for others
~They attack all who enter that part of land
~They call anyone who disaagrees with them a Godmodder
~Some cause WAY to much drama
~and as some have stated above, they take heavy stuff and make it seem light, even when its very disterbing
I dont do this, i try my best to play fair, tho most my clan doesnt do what i do.
Personaly im starting to like lions and wolves more
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Also,
They don't know the difference between IC and OOC by my experience. Me and my friend were foxes and had one of their kits and the dude said he was crying in real life. Seriously? People don't cry over rps....
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Also,
They don't know the difference between IC and OOC by my experience. Me and my friend were foxes and had one of their kits and the dude said he was crying in real life. Seriously? People don't cry over rps....
Awhh... Well, sometimes I will say that strong emotions can branch over into the roleplayers themselves.
I know of a time or two where someone's roleplay post, or perhaps even my own, actually brought me to tears, because there was so much heart, or something so heartrending happening that it really touched me.
Now, if someone's crying because something was said/done in the RP that makes them sad/grumbly, then I could see a bit of emotion there. However, the real matter is what they do next; Are they gonna let their emotions get the better or them and just storm off, or are they going keep roleplaying?
If it does become too much, of course, then it is good for them to step aside. This goes for any roleplay (among other things in life), and it sounded like what the floof you described needed to do. It is good for everyone else to still be supportive, though, no matter what side of the roleplay you might be on. It's good sportsmanship, and simple considerateness. Sensitivity to another's emotions is a good trait to have.
/slightlyofftopic. But still, this can happen in any roleplay.
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Also,
They don't know the difference between IC and OOC by my experience. Me and my friend were foxes and had one of their kits and the dude said he was crying in real life. Seriously? People don't cry over rps....
Strange.... were you and your fox friend and the kit speaking to each other OOC at the time?
Me and my warrior friends hang out and derp together, even if I am on one of my fox characters and they are on their warrior characters. Some other warriors come around and think nothing of it, since we are all OOC. But there have been some who threw big fits all because a fox was hanging out with a group of cats. For one, we were OUT of Character. And two, we are FRIENDS. No big deal right?
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I wasn't trying to be offense, just an experience I had.
But no, we weren't in OOC at all, me and my friend did whisper each other but no one else could see that.
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I wasn't trying to be offense, just an experience I had.
But no, we weren't in OOC at all, me and my friend did whisper each other but no one else could see that.
Welp. I don't know what to think of it then. Who knows what that one person who was crying irl was thinking at the time. Maybe they are big fans of the Warriors series and probably cried when one of their favorite kit characters got eaten by a fox in the books.... Or maybe she lost a cat to a fox in real life (I once met a person who said she hated foxes because one killed her pet cat). We may never know. Who knows?
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Some people have a bad opinion about warrior cats because they never read the books or anything that means information regarding Warrior Cats.If they don't like it,it is their opinion but don't start complaining about it when you absolutely know nothing about it.I haven't read the books so i have no idea what is all about,i role-played like 4-5 times as one and I can say I am not really into it but it's not fine if i am to tell everyone negative things about it just because i don't enjoy it much.
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I've never roleplayed as a Warrior Cat or read the books. It just never really took my fancy. But I don't say stuff like "Urgh, those damn warriors" when I see cats roleplaying or see some run by. To be honest, if they don't bother or annoy me, then I have no reason to behave negatively towards them. Since I've never really affiliated with warriors, I don't really understand their 'lore', like their vocabularly or their relationships with other animals. As far as I know, they're doing what warriors do. And that's fine, as long as it doesn't disrupt my own activities.
But I think it's the way that the cats sometimes behave that bugs people a bit. Apparently, warrior cats and foxes aren't axactly best friends, and when a fox shows up somewhere, the cats go a bit crazy, even if the fox isn't involved in their roleplay. That is a bit over the top.
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Ah, Warrior cats :3. Yes you may see me around on warrior cats. Some of the people are Realy sweet and others are newbies that are slowly learning.
Yes, we all started out as power players and stuffs like that and we adventualy lernt how to evolve into who we are now. I'm sure many of the other people before me have said that the only reasion These people who are disliking out Warrior Cats members, They would of had a lot of bad exsperiances along the way with WC's but they need to get there heads around from the people who would of annoyed the life out of them and god modded and the rest.
I know what it is like and stuff but mainly the wolves come up and try to interfere with your RP to get your clan worked up. I'm not saying ALL Wolves will harass you some of them are sweet like myself. I respect everyones charas and stuffs like that but. Just ignore the people sweetness. They are only attention seeking.
Welp, that's all I have to say.... Minti3 is out for the night
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Also,
They don't know the difference between IC and OOC by my experience. Me and my friend were foxes and had one of their kits and the dude said he was crying in real life. Seriously? People don't cry over rps....
Im not sure about this, i have been in RP where it was so lifelike and they was so into there chars, I almost got all emotional, and i was just watching O.O
but yes, most cat dont seem to know the diff between Ic and OOC
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I know what it is like and stuff but mainly the wolves come up and try to interfere with your RP to get your clan worked up. I'm not saying ALL Wolves will harass you some of them are sweet like myself. I respect everyones charas and stuffs like that but. Just ignore the people sweetness. They are only attention seeking.
Yeeaaahh... that's happened to my clan once. I was playing as Pharaohstar and we were in the middle of roleplaying as PapyrusClan, when all of the sudden this random cat comes and warns us by saying, "Run for your lives! There is a pack of wolves killing clans! They are coming for you next! RUN!!! RUN!" At first I didn't take that guy seriously... but then the wolves showed up. But these weren't your average pack of grey wolves... they were military wolves, armed with guns, bows and arrows, and army knives o_O They said to us how much they hated clan cats and were going all around the plains to hunt them down and kill every one of them. When they started attacking us with their powerplaying, I told my clan members to just ignore them and block them. Of course, most of my clan members wouldn't listen and they started attacking the powerplaying army wolves. So I blocked all the wolves and went on with what I was doing, and the wolves eventually left to go find some other clan to attack and kill..... ::)
And that's my bizzare story.
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Yeeaaahh... that's happened to my clan once. I was playing as Pharaohstar and we were in the middle of roleplaying as PapyrusClan, when all of the sudden this random cat comes and warns us by saying, "Run for your lives! There is a pack of wolves killing clans! They are coming for you next! RUN!!! RUN!" At first I didn't take that guy seriously... but then the wolves showed up. But these weren't your average pack of grey wolves... they were military wolves, armed with guns, bows and arrows, and army knives o_O They said to us how much they hated clan cats and were going all around the plains to hunt them down and kill every one of them. When they started attacking us with their powerplaying, I told my clan members to just ignore them and block them. Of course, most of my clan members wouldn't listen and they started attacking the powerplaying army wolves. So I blocked all the wolves and went on with what I was doing, and the wolves eventually left to go find some other clan to attack and kill..... ::)
And that's my bizzare story.
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Crazy kids... To be honest, I think it would've been legitimately interesting (roleplay/storyline-wise) for all parties if the wolves had been realistic, and fought fairly, but jeezalo. Army wolves? Driven by baseless hatred? Mew, not so much, in my opinion.
That's certainly an interesting occurence, though.
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Yeeaaahh... that's happened to my clan once. I was playing as Pharaohstar and we were in the middle of roleplaying as PapyrusClan, when all of the sudden this random cat comes and warns us by saying, "Run for your lives! There is a pack of wolves killing clans! They are coming for you next! RUN!!! RUN!" At first I didn't take that guy seriously... but then the wolves showed up. But these weren't your average pack of grey wolves... they were military wolves, armed with guns, bows and arrows, and army knives o_O They said to us how much they hated clan cats and were going all around the plains to hunt them down and kill every one of them. When they started attacking us with their powerplaying, I told my clan members to just ignore them and block them. Of course, most of my clan members wouldn't listen and they started attacking the powerplaying army wolves. So I blocked all the wolves and went on with what I was doing, and the wolves eventually left to go find some other clan to attack and kill..... ::)
And that's my bizzare story.
Verry strange Lady', Oh well. Newbies theses days *Covers newbie sign*
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B/c we overreact, nuf said.
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I'm very considerate of my Warriors RPs. I don't even map-claim; it's only like this:
Flowerstar: Excuse me, Streamstar, but my Clan is here. Could you please move a bit?
Streamstar (Me): Of course, but please know that you can't map-claim.
Flowerstar: -Block-
I don't even understand that. I don't powerplay and my characters are all the size they should be.
I don't map-claim, I don't fight (only if me and the leaders are friends, and it's worked out).
I even ask for permission to end a character's life! If they say no, I let them escape. If they say yes, I ask them if they're sure. If they say yes again, I'll go on with it. I don't see a point in killing somebody's character if they don't want them to be dead, so yes, I think I'm a reasonable Warrior Cat RPer.
But, of course, there are the younglings who think that it's okay to kill without asking, to say, "This is my Clan's camp, leave now!" Most of the time I reply with the fact that they can't map-claim/kill without permission/powerplay. It doesn't seem fair that some formidable Warriors RPers get a bad reputation because some 9-year-olds are being snotty and not following the rules. ~End of rant~
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I'm very considerate of my Warriors RPs. I don't even map-claim; it's only like this:
Flowerstar: Excuse me, Streamstar, but my Clan is here. Could you please move a bit?
Streamstar (Me): Of course, but please know that you can't map-claim.
Flowerstar: -Block-
I don't even understand that. I don't powerplay and my characters are all the size they should be.
I don't map-claim, I don't fight (only if me and the leaders are friends, and it's worked out).
I even ask for permission to end a character's life! If they say no, I let them escape. If they say yes, I ask them if they're sure. If they say yes again, I'll go on with it. I don't see a point in killing somebody's character if they don't want them to be dead, so yes, I think I'm a reasonable Warrior Cat RPer.
But, of course, there are the younglings who think that it's okay to kill without asking, to say, "This is my Clan's camp, leave now!" Most of the time I reply with the fact that they can't map-claim/kill without permission/powerplay. It doesn't seem fair that some formidable Warriors RPers get a bad reputation because some 9-year-olds are being snotty and not following the rules. ~End of rant~
This was very well put.
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I'm very considerate of my Warriors RPs. I don't even map-claim; it's only like this:
Flowerstar: Excuse me, Streamstar, but my Clan is here. Could you please move a bit?
Streamstar (Me): Of course, but please know that you can't map-claim.
Flowerstar: -Block-
I don't even understand that. I don't powerplay and my characters are all the size they should be.
I don't map-claim, I don't fight (only if me and the leaders are friends, and it's worked out).
I even ask for permission to end a character's life! If they say no, I let them escape. If they say yes, I ask them if they're sure. If they say yes again, I'll go on with it. I don't see a point in killing somebody's character if they don't want them to be dead, so yes, I think I'm a reasonable Warrior Cat RPer.
But, of course, there are the younglings who think that it's okay to kill without asking, to say, "This is my Clan's camp, leave now!" Most of the time I reply with the fact that they can't map-claim/kill without permission/powerplay. It doesn't seem fair that some formidable Warriors RPers get a bad reputation because some 9-year-olds are being snotty and not following the rules. ~End of rant~
Don't worry about what other people think. You're a good FH community member, that's all that matters.
I know it's a real shame that some people have to assume that ALL who roleplay as Warrior Cats are godmodders/powerplayers, map-claimers, and rule breakers. But you're not one of them.
Take a look at what I found on general chat this evening. The username of the user was censored to protect his/her identity.
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Obviously this person doesn't like Warrior cats very much. I've been seeing quite a bit of this going on in general and local chat in the Plains.
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Thank you, White. :3 And ahh, Lady, that reminds me of a time where I was in Bonfire and there was an upside-down contest for the fun of it. Some fools came in and started saying things like "Hey wanna go **** those people?" Some replies were "Sure". This is silly, people. I think most of the un-formidable people , that don't really pay attention to the rules, are doing their best to avoid this topic. Seems funny, eh? Besides, the whole "cat slaying" thing is getting really old. I mean really, since when do wolves/dogs/owls/etc. kill all the Warriors in sight? Nuh-uh. Way to predictable. Right now, I'm on my own little she-cat named Ivycreek. Yeah, I'm RPing on her. Yeah, it's literate, no, there's no map claiming, no, I'm not killing anybody. I'm simply sitting there chatting with a friend and RPing a bit. Easy as that. That's sort of how I imagine it. A bit of chat here, a bit of RP here, no map claiming, no godmodding, no powerplay... just chat. That's it. :)
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Rawr, and that's ideally how it should be. Whether a clan is literate or not, the fact that there are rule-abiding and kind warrior roleplayers out there just goes to show how most of the 'cat hatred' is really baseless, like judging someone's entire family because you had a bad experience with that one crazy uncle. .-. Conversely, though, it's people that are rule-abiding, kind, and considerate that can make the difference for someone that might have previously had a bad taste in their mouth for warriors.
Going back to Lady's post above, though-- I see those kinds of rants in General all the time. The same thing happens with so-called 'mate beggars', and various other things. But we'll stick with these two for now.
What I don't quite understand is the fact that, among some members of FH, it almost becomes a 'fad' or it becomes 'cool' and 'accepted' for someone to sit there and call out/scoff at someone who posts something about warriors or asking for a mate.
Suddenly, everybody jumps in, yelling "Yeah, get out of here, mate beggar!" or "I HATE WARROIR CATS!!1"
I just ponder on that a lot. What makes is so 'cool' to single groups of people out in the public chats?
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Cat slaying? o.o That's brutal and down right cruel. From my perspective, there's very little difference between that and ganging up on and harassing 'mate beggers', 'parent beggers' or other stereotypes people seem to dislike so much.
I watch conversations like those in general chat and think...if these people are like this in a game on the Internet, I dread to think what they're like in real-life...probably nasty, bully type people. >.< blegh
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I have to agree with Flob. Ikky ness, Kitty slaying O.O Mew? I am locking my cat inside from now on :I
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Ah yes Cat/Kit slaying.
Most evil clans do this, i my-self had a cat who killed warrriors b/c she had metal issues and some rogues took advantage of that.
She almost killed a kit but something inside her pinged and soon she turned her back on the rogues and joined a tribe....
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Nothing wrong with Warrior Cats for me, but sometimes the Warrior Cats in LagPlains are a bit too over the top..Example:
Kidnapping
Kit/cat slaying
Spamming the old movies
Barging into your rp and suddenly just start telling you to get out of their territory or you'll be banned. Is there really necessary for that?
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I've never really had any problems with Warrior Cats, or seen any problems. Maybe another reason that people are negative about them is because you see them ALL THE TIME. It's like everyday in Fluorite there's always that big group of cats at StoneBridge or a whole Clan running through you (To get somewhere obviously). It just seems that WCs are becoming popular in FH....At least that's what I've experienced.
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Sorry I haven't posted in a while, I was in Canada. O-O
Canada is not fun AT ALL!!!
Anyway what all of you are saying is really helping me out. Not only are you giving valid reasons, you are all being polite about it instead of saying, I don't like Warrior Cats because blah blah blah
Thank you all for helping me with this question that has spun around in my head sense the day I joined Feral-Heart!
Luff you always!
~ Dark
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It's mainly the fact packs and prides ETC cannot make camp anywhere without a kitten coming over and telling them to go away. Also, some people are hating the amount of different cat clans, there's hundreds.. Also on countless occasions I've many people at once advertising then one leader has enough and goes mental on people 'stealing his/her cats' then they end up going onto caps ever in group, general or local.
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@Louise:
I get what you are saying with that! I once was advertising for my Warrior Cats Role Play that I had been in for about 5 months. After getting a good amount of people a random leader that JUST started advertising was yelling at me for "Stealing" members, when they were my Deputy, Medicine Cat, Medicine Cat Apprentice, 3 old members and 5 new ones. Not only did he go on and on about it, he told potential members to stay away! I needed Warriors at that moment because in the Role Play my clan was about it go into war with another clan! I was very disappointed and ended up leaving Fluorite and asking the Role Play leader to postpone the war.
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Exactly, it does my wolfy head in XD
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@Louise:
I get what you are saying with that! I once was advertising for my Warrior Cats Role Play that I had been in for about 5 months. After getting a good amount of people a random leader that JUST started advertising was yelling at me for "Stealing" members, when they were my Deputy, Medicine Cat, Medicine Cat Apprentice, 3 old members and 5 new ones. Not only did he go on and on about it, he told potential members to stay away! I needed Warriors at that moment because in the Role Play my clan was about it go into war with another clan! I was very disappointed and ended up leaving Fluorite and asking the Role Play leader to postpone the war.
Seems like that clan leader couldn't handle a little competition. ::) If I don't get any clan members into my clan while advertising, I just make a WC character and join someone elses clan. I won't waste my time caps spamming another leader for getting a bunch of new members. You know what they say, "If you can't beat em, join em." ;)
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Exactly, i like your style
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:( so sad too hear hatered words but its ok
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:( so sad too hear hatered words but its ok
Try not to bring old threads back to life, the last post was over a month ago. Just try to be more careful and check when the last post was before you post.
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Beats me why people don't like warrior cat RPs. As I've stated many times before, if someone doesn't like a type of RP, they can't keep their mouth shut about it. Instead of just laying back and letting people RP what they like, they have to butt in and make a nasty comment. Oh well, there's nothing we can do about it.
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:( so sad too hear hatered words but its ok
Try not to bring old threads back to life, the last post was over a month ago. Just try to be more careful and check when the last post was before you post.
No back-seat moderating. She just wanted to share her little bit of input. Besides, this post isn't too old to be posting.
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People that do not like warrior cats/have never liked warrior cat do not like the idea. They do not like the idea that they are probably one of the most popular and successful RP across Feral-Heart. They don't like the idea that warrior cat RPs stand out more next to their wolf pack RP.
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I think it is mainly because they often use their powers a little too much...But it's not powerplaying because they are supposed to do that. The warrior cats are simply cats with unique abilities to fight!
Everyone is probably just misunderstanding the reason they are "powerplaying". I just started reading the Warrior Cat books and adore them! (thanks Cassie!) I listen to how they fight. In FH, it may sound like powerplaying but guess what, it's not mostly powerplaying.
They HAVE to fight like that and do things like that! Its their way of living! BUT, those trolls, haters, and other jerks who think they know it all and aren't acting right, they are the powerplayers, not the little 9 year olds (like my sister) who know what they are doing.
So, if you ever come across one of those "know-it-alls" just block, take screenies and report, or walk away! PM me with any other questions or concerns...Btw, I luv warriors!
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Hnnngh. I got screamed at for having mainly WCs on my account... All pretty much WCs. Barely any wolves, lions, or anything. I enjoy Warrior Cats, and I don't have stupid names like Demonkit, Metalfang, or Ectoplasmpaw (the last one was real!). Then there are the cats that are like, "OMFG i had a dream from starclan im special pick me as deputy" or "heheheheheh im evil im going to kill a lot of cats" OR "oh um im training with the darkforest and i can kill you instantly". Holy crap, I hate when those 3 things appear in cats. Most of my cats are gentle and caring she-cats who are loyal to the Clan and dislike killing and battles. I can see why people dislike them; I dislike people like that. In fact, one of my characters belonged to a suspiciously evil rogue group. I made him horrified when they tried to kill a kit, and in fact, his foster father was evil and said he could never leave. So. TT^TT I really can see why they hate, but I don't necessarily hate all of them. Some are kind, gentle and formidable RPer.s -Cough Candy741 and Tambourine -Cough-
And Firewhip. She mentored me in Candy741 and Tambo's mapped RPs on another acc with extra chars... (don't worry, I only have 2 .o. I don't be like, "OMFG UR ONLY SUPPOSED TO HAVE 1." I ran out of room on one. -Facepalm-)
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I personally am a Warrior Cats fanatic. i dont like it when people jus t tr to Derp up my RP and we either block them or ignore hem. But there was his ONE time i was with friends o mine (NOT a friend per-say anymore but we're getting off topic and dont ask why) a person was rping with us then he/she said something that was overly rude and HawkStar (His/her charrries name :3 ) noticed it was against the rules i believe then he told everyone to report and block her but here is the thing she (im using she now because hey the charrie was that) broke the rule for. she was able to hack the block and reappear on the screens. so yeah ik its not fun when people say stuff ike that but mabe they MIGHT have gone through something simalar to wat i just told u all.
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Eh...I don't have a problem with the Warriors book series. It's not explicitly bad, but the whole "realistic-animal-fantasy-with-a-culture-that-parallels-humanity"-thing has been done before...and it's been done better. Three excellent examples are Tailchaser's Song, Fire Bringer, and Watership Down, books that are superb yet don't have near the amount of fans that Warriors does.
As for Warriors roleplayers, I'm sure there are those who are very courteous, literate rpers who make wonderful contributions to the FH community. Unfortunately, like others have already said, Warriors (because it's a book series for the younger crowd) tends to attract a lot of young and/or inexperienced players who may not understand (or care) that it's rude to claim maps or powerplay another person's character.
So when folks see a Warriors rp going on, they set up their defenses (and occasionally attack) because they believe that these players (who probably aren't looking for any trouble) are the kinds of noobish rude rpers we have all learned to beware.
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Eh...I don't have a problem with the Warriors book series. It's not explicitly bad, but the whole "realistic-animal-fantasy-with-a-culture-that-parallels-humanity"-thing has been done before...and it's been done better. Three excellent examples are Tailchaser's Song, Fire Bringer, and Watership Down, books that are superb yet don't have near the amount of fans that Warriors does.
As for Warriors roleplayers, I'm sure there are those who are very courteous, literate rpers who make wonderful contributions to the FH community. Unfortunately, like others have already said, Warriors (because it's a book series for the younger crowd) tends to attract a lot of young and/or inexperienced players who may not understand (or care) that it's rude to claim maps or powerplay another person's character.
So when folks see a Warriors rp going on, they set up their defenses (and occasionally attack) because they believe that these players (who probably aren't looking for any trouble) are the kinds of noobish rude rpers we have all learned to beware.
You know, my sister has been trying to get me to watch Watership Down for quite some time now. I've seen a few previews of it and will watch it sometime.... eventually.
But anyway, as I went on Warriors website to do a little research to find out more about the story these Warrior roleplayers go by. I can see why many of them are so map-claimy and "territorial". It all has to do with the Warrior Code in the books.
The Warrior Code
1. Defend your Clan, even with your life. You may have friendships with cats from the other Clans, but your loyalty must remain to your Clan, as one day you may meet them in battle.
2. Do not hunt or trespass on another Clan's territory.
3. Elders and kits must be fed before apprentices and warriors. Unless they have permission, apprentices may not eat until they have hunted to feed the elders.
4. Prey is killed only to be eaten. Give thanks to StarClan for its life.
5. A kit must be at least six moons old to become an apprentice.
6. Newly appointed warriors will keep a silent vigil for one night after receiving their
warrior name.
7. A cat cannot be made deputy without having mentored at least one apprentice.
8. The deputy will become Clan leader when the leader dies or retires.
9. After the death or retirement of the deputy, the new deputy must be chosen
before moonhigh.
10. A gathering of all four Clans is held at the full moon during a truce that lasts for the night. There shall be no fighting among Clans at this time.
11. Boundaries must be checked and marked daily. Challenge all trespassing cats.
12. No warrior may neglect a kit in pain or in danger, even if that kit is from a different Clan.
13. The word of the Clan leader is the warrior code.
14. An honorable warrior does not need to kill other cats to win his battles, unless they are outside the warrior code or it is necessary for self-defense.
15. A warrior rejects the soft life of a kittypet.
So yeah, many of these Warrior roleplayers really try to fit their RPing to the books, even when it comes to the warrior code. That's understandable and all, but they often times forget that no one can really "drive someone out of a territory" in a public map. Today, I saw some Warrior roleplayers attacking a mother fox and her tiny little baby fox. But this mother fox wasn't acting like the foxes of the books, but the cats were determined to drive her out of "their territory". It went something like this... (Names were made up since I don't remember all of them).
Quinn F Fox: *Growls trying to protect her kit*
Swallowtail: "You better take your kit and get out of here right now, unless you want to get hurt!" he hissed.
Greyshadow: -He went over to protect Dovekit-
Kojak Bobcat (me): -As the wildcat walked on, he heard the sounds of an arguement. He watched as some clan cats surrounded a mother fox and her tiny fox kit. He stopped to watch out of curiousity.-
Quinn F Fox: "What did I do to you? I did nothing wrong!"
Swallowtail: "You were going to kill our kit!" he hissed "Now take your kit and leave!"
Quinn F Fox: -She picked up her kit and fled-
Greyshadow" "I don't think she was trying to hurt Dovekit. She was just protecting hers."
Kojak Bobcat: "The only foxes I've seen attack kits and clan cats were rabid," he thought to himself. "These guys are wrong about foxes."
Swallowtail: If you would read the Warrior books, foxes attack clan cats and eat the kits, sir))
Kojak Bobcat: I know that, the thing about the foxes in the books is all fiction. Foxes don't act like that in reality))
Swallowtail: Well this isn't a realistic roleplay, this is a Warrior cats roleplay))
So yeah, even some Warrior roleplayers admit that their roleplay is all based on fantasy and not reality.... even though many have claimed that their roleplayers were realistic. They aren't realistic, it's all fictional for Pete's sake!
Anyway, some Warrior roleplayers act so aggressive to "outsiders" because they are just following the books, even though they may get a little carried away with it. It would be nice if they could remember that they shouldn't map-claim in a public map. A private map is okay, if that's what their roleplay calls for.
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As Lady was saying, yes we normaly RP to go with the warrior code, and I used to challenge anyone that wasn't in my clan that got close to me, but theyn i realized that u can't do that on a public map, and it makes everyone else mad. So whilst everyone ids challengeing outsiders that enter the turf, i sit there watching, b/c now i hate bothering people, that may as well be passing through, unless they are part of our RP.
Another thing is, lots of us 'God-mod' or 'powerplay'. We will autohit, or dodge everything. And if we make a lion sized warrio cat we will use it as if it was the size of a real lion.
Now I don't do this, if im liom sized and i see a fox, you can bet i most likely gonna die >_>, but some people will try and kill a whole family of foxes with one lion sized cat, and it rediculous.
Some clans wont even RP with another clan if they have lion sized cats.
Another thing is lifespan of RP
Most of the RP seem to not last long, and those who do last long clash with others.
Also, there are so many clans out there that the map is constantly filled with them, and wolves or lion or something unique that wants to RP, can't b/c they have a to deal with hostile cats the whole time, and not everyone can download maps....
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I'm afraid they are so negative cause most people don't like Warrior-Cats, I love Warrior-Cats though. I'm honest with that! Sometimes, People judge the warriors series cause it's cats and most people don't like felines cause they think canines are better and more active than cats. When people are around one cat, it acts lazy and boring. When people re around dogs, they are being really friendly or aggressive, and will jump around unlike cats. But in the Warrior series, These cats are more active than Real-Life's cat. Also in the book "The Rise Of Scourge" people start role-playing as him, and some people think it's unfair.
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I love warrior cat players and warrior cats. It's not that every one hates them, it's just that there's too many.
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As said before I think the main thing is the powerplaying and map claiming. TLK players also have gotten the reputation of a group of powerplayers. Not that all warrior cat and TLK rpers are this way but a good percent of them are.
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To put it simply and quickly: Godmodders. Illiteracy to the point where it's stupid. Map claimers.
I never have randomly raged at a warrior, but I turned to hate them quickly.
Mainly because of all the illiterates and power players, and simply because of the unoriginality and territory claims.
I join their RPs now and then when my friend is there, but all in all, I hate warriors. I keep away from them, ignore most, and never even bother looking at their advertisements.
But that doesn't mean I flip out over them ._.
Ive chatted it up with them for hours at times, and gotten into a good RP with them on some random species and they allowed me to join.
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To put it simply and quickly: Godmodders. Illiteracy to the point where it's stupid. Map claimers.
I never have randomly raged at a warrior, but I turned to hate them quickly.
Mainly because of all the illiterates and power players, and simply because of the unoriginality and territory claims.
I join their RPs now and then when my friend is there, but all in all, I hate warriors. I keep away from them, ignore most, and never even bother looking at their advertisements.
But that doesn't mean I flip out over them ._.
Ive chatted it up with them for hours at times, and gotten into a good RP with them on some random species and they allowed me to join.
You do have a point. Power-players and illiterates are the worst, and they will do anything to make you mad and break the rules. They never seem to listen right!
And those who claim maps that are public should be noticed and banned from the server for 10 minutes to show them right!
All maps made that are in this game are made by Mods/admins/helpers and are public, not suppose to be claimed!
I can be claimed in ROLEPLAY only though, cause it's role-play. Not like they actually mean to claim it.
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To put it simply and quickly: Godmodders. Illiteracy to the point where it's stupid. Map claimers.
I never have randomly raged at a warrior, but I turned to hate them quickly.
Mainly because of all the illiterates and power players, and simply because of the unoriginality and territory claims.
I join their RPs now and then when my friend is there, but all in all, I hate warriors. I keep away from them, ignore most, and never even bother looking at their advertisements.
But that doesn't mean I flip out over them ._.
Ive chatted it up with them for hours at times, and gotten into a good RP with them on some random species and they allowed me to join.
Gosh, since I often times roleplay as a warrior cat (I rarely do nowadays) I hope you don't judge me or hate me too much.
I cannot deny the fact that a majority of people who roleplay as Warrior cats are like that, map-claimers, godmodders, etc. It's just a shame that you can't find many who are considerate of other players using the public maps. Me and my friends are the very few who do. If someone comes around where we are roleplaying, we don't go up to interact with them unless they come to interact with us. We won't go over to them and demand that they get out of "our territory".
As for the terms of "unoriginality", there are few that do some different things in their warriors RP that DON'T go by the books. Me and some friends have mixed things up in our Warrior RPs, such as adding a few twists that aren't found in the books. We have done warrior RPs that had twists of Homestuck, Harry Potter, The Last Unicorn, and other story elements to them. I even made a clan that wasn't the "traditional" kind. The clan I came up with had ties to Ancient Egypt, and had ranks such as sacrificial preists, shawmans, magicians, and so on. However, that roleplay recieved so much bashing from die-hard Warrior fans that many members left for something more based on the books. Some would tell me such things like "Cats would no nothing about ancient Egypt!" or "Pharaohstar isn't a realistic warrior leader's name!" The list goes on and on. Some of our other non-traditional Warrior cat roleplays would be ridiculed by other Warrior fans.
"A unicorn fox caring for clan kits? That's stupid!"
"Clan kits don't have lusi as parents!" (Homestuck reference).
"Clans shouldn't become friends with animals of other species!"
"A clan leader can't be a pharaoh!"
"Clan cats don't rely on a silly unicorn fox to heal their wounds! That's nonsense!"
"A cat and a fox cannot be best friends! NO WAY!"
"You can't be mates with a rogue! It's ridiculous!"
The list goes on and on.
So don't say I haven't tried being original, because I have. I've tried adding a few twists to some Warrior roleplays and just get chewed out by many of the Warrior fans.
There are times when I wish some people would give new ideas a chance every once in a while. Doing the same old thing of going by the books can get a little boring. We (me and my friends) all done the traditional go by the books kind of roleplay too many times. We want to change it up some.
As for the illiteracy part, I don't know about you but I've seen more illiterate wolf and fox roleplayers than I have WC roleplayers. Maybe I'm just one of the few lucky ones to find the literate kind, I don't know.
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I don't see anything wrong with Warrior Cat rps... :-\
I can't even think of a reason someone would.
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I don't see anything wrong with Warrior Cat rps... :-\
I can't even think of a reason someone would.
Mainly these reasons :I
- Godmodding
- Map Claiming
- Illiterate
- Led by Users that are around 10 - 13 (People who usually don't understand that power playing and map claiming is wrong)
I'm not saying that all WC RPs are bad, it's just a good majority are :I
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I don't hate WC RP's, I just tend not to like them naturally in all fairness I have not read any books or ever role played as a Warrior Cat. Although, as previous comments state. They do have some Warrior Cats who take it over the top and some are pretty rude, also I've experienced a lot of Warrior Cats with foul language (due to them being young children). I don't have any 'hate' for the experience Warrior Cats but I do find, finding RP's hard sometimes when they are a ton of WC's advertising. Also, there's a lot of God Modding and power-players. c:
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I don't see anything wrong with Warrior Cat rps... :-\
I can't even think of a reason someone would.
Mainly these reasons :I
- Godmodding
- Map Claiming
- Illiterate
- Led by Users that are around 10 - 13 (People who usually don't understand that power playing and map claiming is wrong)
I'm not saying that all WC RPs are bad, it's just a good majority are :I
I agree with this list, mostly.
I, myself, fall in the range of 10-13. Some say I am literate. -shrug-
But yes, godmodding is the big turnoff. No kit can skip over to a full grown warrior and rip their head off.
It just can't happen.
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I have nothing against Warrior cat role-players at all. I've read the books, I know the stories, and the cats themselves. The story itself is engaging and there is much adventure, action, and suspense. To first time readers, I highly recommend starting with the first book, Into the Wild. Or, if you are the lazy individual or have no access to a local library, simply watch video adaptations on Youtube.
As for the role-players, I can understand way most people would be skeptical and almost mean-spirited to them. From my perspective, most of the Warrior cat role-players I would meet either never read the book and just like the theme of Warriors. Those that have read the book are usually neglectful of important points of the story, namely the warrior code, how the leader obtains their nine lives, and resurrecting dead cats, like Bluestar. Just to clarify, I really like like Bluestar, she was wise, took risks, and made sacrifices, namely her life. However, when I see someone role-playing with characters such as Bluestar, the leader of Thunderclan, with so little respect and dignity, it bothers me.
Another thing with this, as maintained before, is the power-play and god modding reputation. I've encountered a good number of Warrior cat groups that do this to no end. Because I didn't want simply draw conclusions, I decided to approach a clan with one of my canine characters. Once I posted, I had an alright experience. I was soon greeted by a kit and its mentor. I'll give credit, this I liked because the mentor was with the kit at all times. Also I liked how mentor encountered me as the stranger animal I was, interacting with their enviroment. We role-played for a while, a good hour or so until they had to leave. And for those wondering, no, this was not a commercial clan, it was one those made-up ones, like Swampclan or Earthclan.
In closing, I do not essentially hate any theme of role-play, particularly the ones influenced by the Warrior series. As long as the book, the story, the idea, and the characters (if you role-play as them) are respected, then I have no mind. In addition to respecting those around you and role-playing in an appropriate way, then no worries for your clan being set into the norm of those who don't.
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However, when I see someone role-playing with characters such as Bluestar, the leader of Thunderclan, with so little respect and dignity, it bothers me.
Think about for a second, if someone's WC was named Bluefoot, and then became leader, it's not like they copied the "real" Bluestar :I
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I role-play only as warrior cats on Feral-heart (Sometimes Wolf, Only by request by friends) but I understand why people would hate them. So much Godmodding or PowerPlaying in the maps etc. (Feeling lazy) And when they Claim land in public maps n get ticked off at anyone who comes near them.
Like someone brought up before the
-Illiterate
-Godmodding
-PowerPlaying
-Map Claiming
-Children 12 n below
-Over reactant
-Using in-book charaters
So I understand why people would get Peed off at them
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However, when I see someone role-playing with characters such as Bluestar, the leader of Thunderclan, with so little respect and dignity, it bothers me.
Think about for a second, if someone's WC was named Bluefoot, and then became leader, it's not like they copied the "real" Bluestar :I
Well, yeah, that makes sense. I just didn't take that into consideration. :P
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However, when I see someone role-playing with characters such as Bluestar, the leader of Thunderclan, with so little respect and dignity, it bothers me.
Think about for a second, if someone's WC was named Bluefoot, and then became leader, it's not like they copied the "real" Bluestar :I
Well, yeah, that makes sense. I just didn't take that into consideration. :P
:P But taking that into thought, it does kinda make me feel bad that people get bashed for stealing a certain leaders name because it isn't their fault that they became leader and went by Bluestar. But in the WC books there's a Tigerstar and a Tigerheart. What if Tigerheart became leader o.o
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To put it simply and quickly: Godmodders. Illiteracy to the point where it's stupid. Map claimers.
I never have randomly raged at a warrior, but I turned to hate them quickly.
Mainly because of all the illiterates and power players, and simply because of the unoriginality and territory claims.
I join their RPs now and then when my friend is there, but all in all, I hate warriors. I keep away from them, ignore most, and never even bother looking at their advertisements.
But that doesn't mean I flip out over them ._.
Ive chatted it up with them for hours at times, and gotten into a good RP with them on some random species and they allowed me to join.
Gosh, since I often times roleplay as a warrior cat (I rarely do nowadays) I hope you don't judge me or hate me too much.
I cannot deny the fact that a majority of people who roleplay as Warrior cats are like that, map-claimers, godmodders, etc. It's just a shame that you can't find many who are considerate of other players using the public maps. Me and my friends are the very few who do. If someone comes around where we are roleplaying, we don't go up to interact with them unless they come to interact with us. We won't go over to them and demand that they get out of "our territory".
As for the terms of "unoriginality", there are few that do some different things in their warriors RP that DON'T go by the books. Me and some friends have mixed things up in our Warrior RPs, such as adding a few twists that aren't found in the books. We have done warrior RPs that had twists of Homestuck, Harry Potter, The Last Unicorn, and other story elements to them. I even made a clan that wasn't the "traditional" kind. The clan I came up with had ties to Ancient Egypt, and had ranks such as sacrificial preists, shawmans, magicians, and so on. However, that roleplay recieved so much bashing from die-hard Warrior fans that many members left for something more based on the books. Some would tell me such things like "Cats would no nothing about ancient Egypt!" or "Pharaohstar isn't a realistic warrior leader's name!" The list goes on and on. Some of our other non-traditional Warrior cat roleplays would be ridiculed by other Warrior fans.
"A unicorn fox caring for clan kits? That's stupid!"
"Clan kits don't have lusi as parents!" (Homestuck reference).
"Clans shouldn't become friends with animals of other species!"
"A clan leader can't be a pharaoh!"
"Clan cats don't rely on a silly unicorn fox to heal their wounds! That's nonsense!"
"A cat and a fox cannot be best friends! NO WAY!"
"You can't be mates with a rogue! It's ridiculous!"
The list goes on and on.
So don't say I haven't tried being original, because I have. I've tried adding a few twists to some Warrior roleplays and just get chewed out by many of the Warrior fans.
There are times when I wish some people would give new ideas a chance every once in a while. Doing the same old thing of going by the books can get a little boring. We (me and my friends) all done the traditional go by the books kind of roleplay too many times. We want to change it up some.
As for the illiteracy part, I don't know about you but I've seen more illiterate wolf and fox roleplayers than I have WC roleplayers. Maybe I'm just one of the few lucky ones to find the literate kind, I don't know.
I tend to see mainly warrior cat RPs that are illiterate, but that might just be since I prefer certain locations of the map. And yes, there are many people who hate things that are out of the normal, which tends to get rather annoying at times -u-
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I am, personally, not against Warrior Cats at all. I have read the books, know the tales, and I'm glad that the FeralHeart community is becoming a big fan of Erin Hunter's creation. It's not the Warrior Cats that I dislike, it's the individuals who often power-play and god-mod that tilt me off. It's just that, during my years of FeralHeart, some Warrior Cats that I have met so happened to be a power-player/god-modder and I'm guessing those spoiled apples so happened to get around and make other players view the whole bunch as rotten. That's just my perspective.
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Warriors do tend to powerplay alot leaders can cheat with there 9 lives like in Toontown for example (there Warrior rps are worst then Fh) One leader has died at least 15 times and she still is the leader, or when a leader leaves i've seen this before she comes back and says she still leader or like one time I was on my wolf and fought some them and they were able to fight me some how even one said they killed me and I was just like no just no. :I
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Hmm... I've tried to join WC roleplays, and the people in them ignore me, so I wouldn't know. They huddle off in little groups and ignore anyone else, as far as I know. I love Warrior Cats, but most of the groups based on them are terrible and corny. >.< I have yet to see a good one. :'(
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One thing I've noticed is that many who have posted in this thread often plead for "more original" warrior clans.
But, then, they turn around and end up with situations like Lady Alizarin described, which I think is ridiculous that they'd bash her for making her original storyline. I think it sounds neat, and a breath of fresh air.
However, here's one thing that seems to lack in many 'traditional" or (I use this term loosely) "realistic" Clans I've joined in the past.
That is, sticking to the "warrior code."
The reason they're so popular is that the way warriors are structured gives them their own plots, in a way, and allows for rules to be broken and, when followed, can make for an interesting scene and storyline that characters must follow or struggle against, continuing the storyline.
For that, I enjoy warrior RPs.
But, it seems so many call themselves legitimate clans, and then fail to adhere to the "warrior code" they all preach about when they go to attack some other clan.
I had one experience where a Clan leader (a female) called her Clan together to announce that she was pregnant, reputedly her kits having been blessed upon her from StarClan itself.
Of course, having read the books, I know that female clan leaders, deputies, and med cats cannot have kits of their own, since they have duties to handle with the Clan itself. So even though this leader claimed to have gotten her kits from StarClan, in the books it would have been an outrage from her Clan! What would they do if their leader was heavily pregnant with kits, and couldn't help them in the midst of a battle? Had StarClan caused her to break Clan law?
These were the thoughts going through my own cat's head, and the leader herself said that she intended to cause that worry among the Clan to help start a plotline (which I thought was awesome).
So, myself and another cat was caught up in the suspense of the plot the leader had laid out, but all the other cats completely ignored it and ran along with their own little stories, blissfully unaware of the potentially rich and suspenseful storyline that could have ensued.
Looking for originality? Why not the battle between duty and suspicion of wrongdoing someone is laying out right in front of your nose?
So, when nobody ever acknowledged it, I got bored fairly quickly, as did the Clan.
This said, I think even "traditional" Clans could be so much more interesting if users would actually research what lies in the deeper parts of their RP, and follow it. Otherwise, you're just picking and choosing what you like the thought of (in many cases, that being fighting and attacking others), and ignoring the rest.
That's where I could also see warrior RPs not being as sparkly and appealing to some as it otherwise would have been by only reading the books.