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Beautiful topic, Fox!
Here be my reasons that I may not join a group:
` They say realistic but there are characters that have colors. I'm not talking about the toned down, accent colors, I mean a legit bright red. It's something I don't understand. Now, I can understand if it's a war paint or blood but they can at least tone down the brightness(because actual blood is a bit darker and maybe even purplish).
` Wolf-speakers and/or "txt" talk. This is completely absurd in my opinion, and these are usually the ones who demand you to be literate when they themselves are not. You will be deemed a noob, even if you have been dealing with that kind of crap for years.
` No biographies. Much like you, I love to read biographies about a group or character. I remember reading random bios of characters that had cool names, just for the sole purpose of interest.
` They don't have their website(if they have one) in their biography, or they have typed "Ask ___ about the website." I don't have the patience of trying to remember the entire URL while everyone else is spamming the chat with nonsense.
` Required role play sample. I agree with you totally it is a waste of time, and I might not have a muse right then and there to provide an efficient one. I feel that you and your character will grow with the group, so why perfect that first impression?
#nope
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I also have many reasons as to why not join a group.
1 Samples. Waste of time and makes things chaotic. People somehow got on this English-based game so It's logical they know basics at least.
2. Rude people. Some people just have no idea how to act polite. I've seen that a lot lately.
3 Maps. If you do have to get one, enjoy the lag and trouble downloading.
4 Active groups. These guys require you to be active and somehow don't get the fact that people have busy lives outside the game.
5 "Wolfspeak" No need to go into details. It's just pure annoying.
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Very interesting topic. I must say, I have to agree with a few of the things said above. Here's my list.
1. Bio-less group biographies- Whether it's any at all, I'd really appreciate a biography for the group. Maybe the group's just starting out, and they're really new, but if I've been in a roleplay for a month and they still haven't scrapped together some sort of pre-school essay, I might conjure an uneasy feeling.
2. Popular Roleplays with Popular Websites- I know a lot of people who like to be in big, active, complexly-plotted roleplays with an equally complicated website. This is not for me. I do enjoy roleplays with complex storylines, but when the group leaders require you to go onto the website daily and do whatever stuff they want done online, it simply becomes too much for me. I joined a Warrior Cat roleplay with over 45 members, and I had no idea what I was getting myself into. I went on their website, and I knew that there was no possible way I could survive a day in that Clan.
3. People Accepted for Not Being Accepted. I know a few times where I've had to submit an rp sample to the group leader, and whether I was what they were looking for or not, I've been turned away. I've been told I wasn't "literate" enough before, and I easily understood their perspective- I wasn't complaining. But what bothers me is when I see another player ask to join, and the group leader doesn't even ask for a roleplay sample. They just let them join without doing anything at all...and after all my hard work at that roleplay sample...
Also, when they beg and beg to be let into the group, and the leader gets fed up with their whining and complaining, so they just let them in...
4. I have to admit, wolfspeakers and text talk turns me off.
5. Power-playing.
6. The "I-Consider-Myself-Of-Higher-Quality-Because-I've-Been-In-The-Group-Longer-Than-You-Have."
7. When the group leader requires a roleplay sample, but will let anyone in no matter how well of a job they did. This bothers me simply because some people work hard in order to be accepted into a roleplay. It's not that I'm saying nobody wants to work hard to be in a roleplay, but if the leader is going to accept anyone who wants to join, then what's the point of an rp sample? This also waves a red flag because it says, "Hey, this person might not care about my hard-working, roleplay ethic."
That's all I can think of...for now.
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I don't have that many reasons for not joining, excluding need and laziness.
Though the few I have are just this:
If they're rude, impolite, or in anyway inconsiderate, no thank you
If they're pretentious/prideful, nooooo
And, finally:
If they are in any way bullying their members/ex-members they kicked for no reason, consider me out.
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Things that turn me away from groups:
-Unoriginal roleplays. By this I mean groups that hardly have a plot and are almost exactly the same as tons of other groups. For example, I see a lot of Warrior Cat roleplays that are just exactly the same as a bunch of other Warrior Cats roleplays, and I don't see any reason why I'd want to join. (I'm not saying all Warrior Cat rps are like this at all, just using it as an example since I tend to see them a lot)
-Roleplays that put an extreme amount of detail and confusing language into their roleplay. I see roleplays like this a lot as well, and I never want to join them because I can't understand a single thing of what they're saying or what their plot is. They use a bunch of odd made-up terms for everything, have too many characters with more odd-names in their plot as well as too many places, and everything just gets confusing and way too specific.
-Wolfspeak. Eep.
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The list of things that will me say "nope" to a group include:
- Bio-less groups: Like a lot of people, bio-less groups are ones I tend to stay away from. If you don't know what the group is about, why would you want to join? Seriously.
- Text talkers and wolf speakers: This has been a pet peeve of mine since I started roleplaying. I only use text talk when I'm not roleplaying, otherwise it just looks sloppy, and hard to read. Wolf speaking is just, ugh. I really can't understand what they're saying.
- God-modders and power-players: Coming from the world of AJ, this is one real problem for me. It has almost ruined roleplaying for me, which is why I am so glad I found this game in the first place. God-modders and power-players are not fun to play with in my opinion.
- Websites: I honestly don't like websites, just because I don't like have a ton of accounts for things, and I'd rather get right to roleplaying, than making an account for some website I'll probably forget about.
- Impossible ranking systems: Ugh, there have been several roleplay groups that I've seen claim that it's possible to rank up. The first time that happened, I got my hopes up, only to find that the leaders favorite got the job. Rather than picking your friends, you should pick the most deserving. Plus ranking systems are unfair in the way that all of the higher ranks completely ignore the lowers.
- Realistic groups: This just bugs me, because a lot of the time, even if your color is just a little bit off, you will be turned down. No one can really perfectly match natural colors in a game with limited markings, which can only get so close to the real thing.
This is only a few I guess.
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I apologize! ;-; I just wanted to share some things I didn't like in a group as well as things I did like in the same post, and I didn't mean to say that we were talking about the groups as a whole, I just sorta sucked at my word choice. I will edit my original post.
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- Impossible ranking systems: Ugh, there have been several roleplay groups that I've seen claim that it's possible to rank up. The first time that happened, I got my hopes up, only to find that the leaders favorite got the job. Rather than picking your friends, you should pick the most deserving. Plus ranking systems are unfair in the way that all of the higher ranks completely ignore the lowers.
I know what you mean about those impossible ranking systems. Sometimes, you wonder why even half of them are there. Sometimes, they may not even make any lick of sense. Hey, when I started a group, long time ago, I did this "impossible system" in another way. I would have a higher rank for each position there was with a total of five ranks and eight positions. Eight times five is what? ... Exactly. Yeah, I was a bit too complex at the time and one day finally realized, "you know, maybe I'm overwhelming people with this..." When you overwhelm yourself, nine times out of ten, other people are going to be, too.
I apologize! ;-; I just wanted to share some things I didn't like in a group as well as things I did like in the same post, and I didn't mean to say that we were talking about the groups as a whole, I just sorta sucked at my word choice. I will edit my original post.
It's alright, Turtlex, I just didn't want you to think we were aiming to put down anything or anyone. No problem at all and no one got hurt! Let's keep on sharing, eh?
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Things that will make me say "nope" to a group are:
Websites-I can understand making a website if it's to show things such as the plot, rules ,map downloads, etc. But as said before me if it's mandatory that I HAVE to join on the websites forum or I'm not in the group, than that's a no.
Wolfspeakers: While everyone is allowed to role-play how they want, I just find it difficult to join a group that wolfspeaks. It's hard for me and I'm sure for others to understand what their trying to say and most of the words are used in the wrong context and don't really mean what they were trying to say.
Role-play samples: When I look at the advertisements for groups their are some groups that catch my attention until I see "RP samples required" and then I just lose interest. I understand that some leaders want to know the recruit's role-play style and level but why should we have to put all our effort for just a small sample to join? It isn't really necessary in my opinion.
Mapped groups: Downloading a map just for a role-play isn't my cup of tea. I prefer traveling across the public maps, finding a spot , and than just role-play. I don't want to have to copy a URL just to download a map to only go there and have my computer lag. I have been in groups that require maps and most of them make my computer lag which really takes away the enjoyment.
That's pretty much all I can think of on the top of my head. I'm sure there's more but I just can't think of any.
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Things that make me say "Nope" to a group are;
1. If the group is "Literate", but posts annoyingly long posts that I don't want to be bothered to reply to. I understand long posts sometimes in a battle but why can't people just roleplay in shorter sentences? I used to love literacy until I realized, it slows down roleplay and wastes the day away while waiting for slow typers to reply.
2. Wolfspeakers. I used to have huge issues with this, people using such idiotic terms in what should be a normal sentence, but not as much anymore. I try to ignore them nowadays.
3. Power players. The common error is that people think they mostly exist in mapless roleplays. They do not. In some of the mapped roleplays I have been in, people have powerplayed so badly that they ignore each of my posts, thinking themselves more important than what I've typed. This isn't everyone and it does seem to be a minority, but it makes me upset.
4. Groups that claim they will have a map and they never do.
5. A group with a map that takes too long to download, or the map itself is god awful. (I do like some simple maps, but by horrible I mean some textures don't work, or the entire map just looks like it was thrown together by an ametuer... I understand someone who is learning, so it isn't that big of a deal but it ruins the RP experience)
6. Groups that ask me to make a map and when it's finished they abandon it for someone elses. This happened to me at least 3 times... with three different maps.
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1. If the group is "Literate", but posts annoyingly long posts that I don't want to be bothered to reply to. I understand long posts sometimes in a battle but why can't people just roleplay in shorter sentences? I used to love literacy until I realized, it slows down roleplay and wastes the day away while waiting for slow typers to reply.
I agree with the quotation on "literate" and I'll say "literate" role-plays have a different meaning than some people think. It's really "multi-paragraph" rather than literate. I mean, if you can read and write while comprehending what's being said, you're technically literate. I don't like when people place literate and multi-paragraph posting as the same thing, it's not.
Anyway, multi-paragraph, can be fun, but on a game with a large group, it can get a bit tedious. If you're waiting for people to make their post out of ten or even five people, it can take a long time. Me, I don't mind reading and making creative paragraphs about what my character is doing. However, if you're someone who's often inpatient or likes to get a story rolling quickly, it can be boring. So of course, it's all about preference and not everyone share the same ones as far as posting style. Lately, I've been getting into a habit of creating shorter posts because people get more engaged and can play their characters right then and there, instead of having to wait. Also, you don't have to lash at someone for cutting your post off. :)
4. Groups that claim they will have a map and they never do.
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It's always good to be prepared for a group you want to create. If someone has a mapped role-play, this is actually pretty common, I don't know why. If you're intending to have a mapped role-play, at least have the map already up and ready. When people join you and expect a map, try not to tease them with the anticipation of a mapped role-play with the group disbanding two weeks later because never having one.
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I dont mean to be a peeve, but what are WolfSpeakers? I havent played FH in a while.
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I dont mean to be a peeve, but what are WolfSpeakers? I havent played FH in a while.
Wow, you really haven't been here a while, have you? Basically, "wolfspeakers" are role-players who use a set of incorrect terms to describe or replace commonly known terms with something else completely unworldly.
Or in Layman's terms, people who use one word when it really means another, mainly when they don't know, themselves of its original meaning.
Now, of its origin, most people speculate it derived from a game called, Wolf Quest, from the painfully limited text you could place in the text box when on multiplayer. With said "wolfspeak" terminology used the in the same manner on this game as well.
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I dont mean to be a peeve, but what are WolfSpeakers? I havent played FH in a while.
Wow, you really haven't been here a while, have you? Basically, "wolfspeakers" are role-players who use a set of incorrect terms to describe or replace commonly known terms with something else completely unworldly.
Or in Layman's terms, people who use one word when it really means another, mainly when they don't know, themselves of its original meaning.
Now, of its origin, most people speculate it derived from a game called, Wolf Quest, from the painfully limited text you could place in the text box when on multiplayer. With said "wolfspeak" terminology used the in the same manner on this game as well.
Is wolf speak like saying 'fae' or 'led'? Due to WolfQuest and their stupidity, they took off many things that users cant even enjoy. So, with that being said, wolfspeak is like when people just create words?
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I dont mean to be a peeve, but what are WolfSpeakers? I havent played FH in a while.
Wow, you really haven't been here a while, have you? Basically, "wolfspeakers" are role-players who use a set of incorrect terms to describe or replace commonly known terms with something else completely unworldly.
Or in Layman's terms, people who use one word when it really means another, mainly when they don't know, themselves of its original meaning.
Now, of its origin, most people speculate it derived from a game called, Wolf Quest, from the painfully limited text you could place in the text box when on multiplayer. With said "wolfspeak" terminology used the in the same manner on this game as well.
Is wolf speak like saying 'fae' or 'led'? Due to WolfQuest and their stupidity, they took off many things that users cant even enjoy. So, with that being said, wolfspeak is like when people just create words?
'Led' is just their version of 'lad'.
'Fae' means fairie, but it is usedi n WolfSpeak.
And some people say WS originated on Furcadia, though it probably got it's giant kickstart from Wolf Quest.
We'll never really know.
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Okay. Thank you. =)
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I dont mean to be a peeve, but what are WolfSpeakers? I havent played FH in a while.
Wow, you really haven't been here a while, have you? Basically, "wolfspeakers" are role-players who use a set of incorrect terms to describe or replace commonly known terms with something else completely unworldly.
Or in Layman's terms, people who use one word when it really means another, mainly when they don't know, themselves of its original meaning.
Now, of its origin, most people speculate it derived from a game called, Wolf Quest, from the painfully limited text you could place in the text box when on multiplayer. With said "wolfspeak" terminology used the in the same manner on this game as well.
Is wolf speak like saying 'fae' or 'led'? Due to WolfQuest and their stupidity, they took off many things that users cant even enjoy. So, with that being said, wolfspeak is like when people just create words?
'Led' is just their version of 'lad'.
'Fae' means fairie, but it is usedi n WolfSpeak.
And some people say WS originated on Furcadia, though it probably got it's giant kickstart from Wolf Quest.
We'll never really know.
I remember my friend talking about the limited dictionary on WQ. One of the ones she pointed out was instead of "mate" you had to say "meet" (or was it meat? I don't remember). I seriously thought AJ's chat was strict.
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Lemme think
1. Groups that have ranks, names, or plots that have been used a million times in other groups.
2. Groups that claim to be "super realistic " and meanwhile half of the characters have Impossible colours.
3. Wolfspeak in general. Text talk is also incredibly annoying.
I don't really mind maps, or websites though
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Oh I get it, thanks, I play wolf quest so I know about the whole 'Led' and 'lass' mess. xD
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Groups that support slavery, abuse or mature content in any form. Really, I hate those.
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Probably most of my group turn-offs are already mentioned, but allow me to add this one. I hate it when groups are "ranksy". What I mean by that is that the members of a group are very particular about ranks, and what a member's rank means for them both in and out of roleplay. I find this especially true in large groups, or groups with feudalistic ranks such as "lord" or "lady". Members might be exalted or excluded for their ranks, whether or not they earned them, and to me this displays a very narrowminded way of conducting what is supposed to be a relaxed, social experience.
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Here's my own list of Groups..
1. Groups who are over-dramatic
Ohmailord.. There are too many of these groups and or members.
2. Territory Imbosols
The people who make wolves look like over-dramatic 7 year olds.
3.Extreme Literates
They need to learn English..
4.The Desperation Leaders
The people who god-mode or really beg for attenion..
5.Enactivity *Sigh*
The groups that are really good, that die out..
6.The Typical Evil, Demonic or insane prides and packs
It gets boring when you try roleplaying with a demon wannabe...
I might've forgotten a bunch of things, but this pretty much sums it up.
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Couple o' things that make me avoid a group:
1: People who make typos ALOT. Yes, i know that many different languages are spoken in FH, but can you at least watch your fingers when you type?
2: In. ac. ti. vi. .ty
3: Too many fnafs. I'm a HUGE fan of the fnaf series, but i have seen GROUPS and GROUPS of fnafs.
4: Hate groups. Yes, these are real. They go around looking for things to hate on. (characters, bios, fandoms, etc.) and they (you guessed it!) hate on them. HARD!
5: Sparkledog/neoncat groups. Nothin' but sezuires!
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My reasons generally include(The majority of the time based on my mood):
~ Mapped I do enjoy mapped role-plays but a lot of the time I stray from them because they can be quite strict, scripted, and like other people have said isolated or limited. I mean, don't get me wrong the creativity and dedication involved with mapped role-plays is amazing but like others have said they can be really scripted and there's no interesting random encounters from stranger role-players that really spice up the role-play. A lot of mapped role-plays also forbid forbidden love, which is really fun. xD
~ Wolf Pack Role-plays I used to role-play as a wolf a lot but it's become cliche and boring for me. A lot of pack roe-plays I've encountered all seem the same it seems and a lot of them are mapped now (See reasons above about mapped role-plays). I suppose I should try rejoining a wolf role-play and see how it is again but idk.. maybe. xD
Wow.. this is all I can think of atm. x'D