Feral Heart
Game & Forum Discussion => Game Discussion => Topic started by: Ritza on May 13, 2011, 09:09:29 pm
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So I understand that we all enjoy the occasional evil character. But what do you guys think make these "evil" characters so popular with feral heart?
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because it's kinda like trolling , cept you can't get banned for it ;3
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How do you think they are like trolls? I'm trying to entertain the idea of why there seems to be so many. "Rawr fear my evilness because I can kill a pancake" Characters that are running around at the moment. Help me out everyone. :3
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I think their sexy.... -shot-
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Because so-called "evil" characters are generally thought to be dark, mysterious, powerful beings that everyone should tremble in fear and awe of. They're one of many cliches here in the FH community 8P
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I'm going to be brutally honest and say most of them are laughable, mostly because they're generally along the lines of "I AM FIREDEATH. I CAN KILL YOU IN ONE SHOT. DO NOT MAKE ME MAD. RRRR." or "DONT SPEAK TO ME LIKE THAT. I AM A DEMON AND WILL KILL YOU. GET OUT." and finally "MY PARENTS DIED IN A FIRE AND MY PACK HAS DED. SO I GOT ANGRY AND NOW I'M EVIL DON'T TOUCH ME OR YOU WILL DIE."
I don't think I've seen any decent evil characters at all O_o aside from my friend's and mine. (And when I say decent I mean not what I mentioned above).
Although it is fun to rp back at them and watch them run away because you don't bow down to them |DDD. This one time, some random threw a tantrum because Ren wouldn't accept the rabbit they caught and dumped infront of him. He got the "DONT DISOBEY ME. EAT THE RABBIT. I AM THE GOD OF DESTRUCTION." ordeal. Ren thought it was hilarious and kept laughing at them and they ended up cracking a hissy fit and running away because Ren couldn't take them seriously.
I think what Slycan means is that...you can be mean and cruel, however since it's strictly between characters/IC and not 'OOC' it's not ban-able because it's not you yourself speaking.
....I think evil characters are an odd, yet headachy way of venting. Back in the TEF days, I'd organise fights/get permission from others for Ren to uh "be Ren" against and it kind of felt like a digital stress ball XD; however I never did this often since Ren has a bad habit of wanting to kill others that make him angry >_>; which of course I can't do for obvious reasons.
Evil characters are appealling because they go against the norm and give off the "rebel" and "bad boy" vibes which most people seem to like.
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I'm going to be brutally honest and say most of them are laughable, mostly because they're generally along the lines of "I AM FIREDEATH. I CAN KILL YOU IN ONE SHOT. DO NOT MAKE ME MAD. RRRR." or "DONT SPEAK TO ME LIKE THAT. I AM A DEMON AND WILL KILL YOU. GET OUT." and finally "MY PARENTS DIED IN A FIRE AND MY PACK HAS DED. SO I GOT ANGRY AND NOW I'M EVIL DON'T TOUCH ME OR YOU WILL DIE."
I don't think I've seen any decent evil characters at all O_o aside from my friend's and mine. (And when I say decent I mean not what I mentioned above).
...Yes. This. Right here.
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Lulz I've seen those characters as well. They amuse me to some extent, but I always wonder what makes them so shiny. I guess I figured it out now. :/ Though I must admit a lot of the in game bios are like that, or they are "I am so evil I killed my entire family. Fear me and my pancake goddess of the pancakes." :/
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I think most users here have their heads wrapped around the..hmm...'Disney Villain' concept, where most are evil for...uh....8| oh there goes that train of thought.
Generally they only scratch the cliche evil surface. But I guess this is mostly because they're newbies, they're probably not even 13 to 15 and don't go watching the Crime channel on TV to give them a sence of true evil beings (When I was that age I certainly wasn't XD).
But then again I don't think FeralHeart and it's audience are the right ones for the "proper" sociopathic, psychopathic, truely twisted, etc "evil" characters.
I also will point out that I think even if someone was to have a proper nasty character, ironically no one would take them seriously either.
I had this happen to me when I had Ren wandering around, some random group found him, started calling him "lesbian" then "Gay", wouldn't leave him alone (I probably should have blocked them) so I thought "what the heck." And I made Ren reply IC. I'll just tell you that he is incredibly homophobic he hates them so much and he would kill any gay on site if given the chance. SO of course when I made Ren argue with them, they went from serious to trolling him and I made him walk away.
I'm never doing that again that's for sure.
(I'm not homophobic. I'm pointing this out because I hate it when people think I am just because Ren is :\ )
AND THEN OF COURSE there are the people who make sociopaths/psychopaths/say "I WILL NEVR FALL IN LUV." and do it all wrong when that character suddenly falls in love and magically turns good. |D that's a pet peeve of mine.
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Heck Draak! My pet peeve as well! Dear goodness. Or I've always hated the characters that are cheetahs that go up against a pride of lions, or one thing against any group. Like "lookz atz mez!" And they charge in all golden boy hero esk, and all of a sudden their character kills everyone. (heavy gming & pping accomplishes this) And then they are the champion of the little fantastic world that's inside their head. :o
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*highfive* XDDDD. Those kinds of characters are literally all over TEF and it's so irritating and giant facepalmworthy.
Some users have even tried to get with Ren because they "thought they had something special" even when nothing remotely romantic has happened O_o. Then when I tell them "uh no." they get all offended |D.
It's annoying when people don't understand that your character is truely a jerk and will not under any circumstances suddenly become a nice character.
I've seen users who think Hyenas are gods gift to animals and are totally unbeatable.
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Yikes, guys. Those peeps sound horrible :/.
I made my evil charr though she was/ish technically different over yahoo rps I do with my bf. (Yes, I know, long distance relationship xD.)
Being an anthro wolfen lust goddess. (Not going into detail, so don't ask.)
On here, shes a demonic feline.
I suppose I just got bored of all my goody-two-shoes or those that are constantly running around. "Hey this is boring, screw it."
So I changed her personality from what it was over yahoo, and la-la after making the charry with a black/dark grey pelt and scar markings. I had what I wanted, put in her bio and presto. I had my evil charry.
It's fun going around attacking prides/packs/clans, in Ic of course, generally make some friends here and there :3. In fact I joined a pride with a different charry I attacked about three or so days ago.
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With evil characters comes conflict, and with conflict comes interesting RP.
Of course, they have to be properly thought out first.
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Lol, Pretty much what happened to me xD.
I wanted to be different, so I decided to actually do something about it. It was fun :3.
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Sadly yeah, and I agree drama/conflict = interesting.
My troubled or darker characters do seem to get into more interesting situations compared to my good ones. Of course interesting doesn't always mean good, and sometimes it is frustrating but eh, that's just what happens with those kinds of characters I suppose.
With my 'evil' characters and strangers I generally tone them down a bit. The only time they won't be is if the other person/player fully understands what they're up against so I don't end up in strife.
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My dark char is only based on my evil qualities. So she's like my dark version of my fursona (hence the name, Dark Robin). -but I don't resort to powerplay like some who do have evil chars.
-A pet peeve of mines is when some people don't read bios and assume your character is the opposing gender. How hard could it be to click the character/user name and click bio (unless you have a laptop, which has a poor excuse of a mouse).
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this reminds me i dont get why people think if they make there character all black and covered in red scars they suddenly have the strongest character out there XD. I was in a rp once and i got chosen as beta male over a wolf like that and when he said whyd u pick him i look allot stronger i said this
"Your character is covered in scars which means it sucks at dodging XD"
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I don't think looks can be the deciding factor in how "strong" your character is. How "strong" your character is, is based on the age of the character, and how well the owner role plays that character & species. And characters covered in scars?
That doesn't mean they suck at dodging. That means they have been in a lot of fights. I expect a male lion that is six to have a lot of scars. Depending on the area that he lives in, and how many prides and coalition prides are around his own. He should have a lot more scars than a male that is two and just chilling in the pride. Lol.
Scars can show extreme battle experience, or they can show a life time of losing. Some animals just are really bad at fighting. :D
But maybe that's just my take on scars.
Evil characters are now neutral to me, used to not like them before this thread started. But you guys have been a major help :D
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XD Evil characters can be "good" when done right
lolpuns
It's the cliche'd evil hugely overpowered characters that get made (not just by newbies either). I think that can put people off liking evil characters. The ones that make you go "Ugh :\" Those are the bad ones.
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I'll never be able to fully understand "evil" characters. I did think that they were awesomeanduniqueandsuparkewl back when I was new to the whole roleplaying environment, but now they just irritate me. Every time I see something "evil" in a game (the group that I moderate and my friends' characters included), one of two songs will pop into my head: Evil Joe, or Darkness.
Drama and conflict was interesting for a while, but eventually, I noticed how repetitive it is. I'm already wasting my time by sitting on the computer; I may as well try to add some form of thought to what I roleplay (Meaning: Not repeating the habit of making it all about war/love/drama). At a certain point, war/love/raeg/rape plots simply became unappealing and equally as dull as a plot where everyone stands around and talks a lot.
It's kind of strange how everything has to be EVIL AND DARKNESS for it to be interesting to the mass. RP characters aren't real; therefore, there's no real reason for anyone to be defending how strong and superawesome their character is. It happens too often. "HAHA YOU CANNOT DEFEAT ME I AM A DEMON!" "Oh yeah?! Well I'm a VAMPIRE!" "HAH you are both inferior, as I am a DEMONIC VAMPIRE!"
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That whole post sums up with what happened to the Endless Forest community and their characters (oi I keep bringing that game up XD; ).
I have to agree here, yeah drama/conflict/character clashes/and so on can be interesting in the beginning but when gradually every person has and wants their character to be the evil one, it gets very tiresome and repetitive.
When pretty much every new character that's created is evil/emo/dark etc and is a clone of the previous character it's just so...those characters do begin to lose their appeal and instead of seeing them as "Hey that's new" it's more along the lines of "Gah. Another one?"
I do still like evil charcters, but when they're the repeated "I'M SO MISUNDERSTOOD. I HAVE SO MUCH RAGE BECAUSE I'M THE LORD OF SUFFERING. I KILLED MY MUM AND MY DOG. AAAAAAAAAAAAAANGST" it sucks. I find characters like that impossible to like.
I don't understand how people find generic angry abusive character no434 who acts like generic angry abusive character no206 to be so "OMGHOT."
I think it's semi-sad that in order to get people interested some character has to be dead/dying/abused/raped. 'Good' characters can be just as interesting with their smaller problems and happier times.
People can still use those darker plot devices, but when they're just thrown/shoved infront of you just like that, and then when people keep doing it...it's so boring.
It's like these two OCs that I know of, they've been in an abusive relationship for probably nearly two years. And it's the same over and over again, OC1 is beaten/raped/abused by OC2 (and or whoever else gets tossed into the scenario), OC1 and OC2 have cuddle times and then OOP it's time for rape again. It seems like that's all they do and nothing else. I just do not understand how people are attracted to that and how people fangirl over it for so long.
Drama and dark plots and 'evil' characters can be interesting. But when it's the same generic stuff with little to no depth or point it's dull.
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I'm not agreeing with the trolling idea, but I think evil characters are good for adding a little bit of drama into rp's to spice it up a little.
I mean at the end of the rp everyone knows you're not really a bad person and you were just staying in character, but the odd bit of drama in rp's is sometimes good to make it more interesting :)
although saying that, I think evil characters have to be done properly.
It's sort of annoying when someone tries too hard to make their badguy "badass" and ends up power playing to a point where there's no point even trying to fight em off.
Like... ive joined an rp before and I was only in it for 10 minutes before the bad guy wrote a one shot on my character and killed me o_O
I don't mind being killed in rp but come on! XD fight fare!
My bad guys nearly always wind up dead by the end of the rp X3 or if not dead then mortaly wounded or chicken out.
I think handicaps and beleivable power limits are important on evil characters to keep them out of the annoying catergory.
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I don't think I've seen any decent evil characters at all O_o aside from my friend's and mine.
Then you should look around more carefully. I've got a few dark/evil characters that aren't all "I KILL PANCAKES" (lol, that is so going in my vocabulary)... Like Teal, I like my dark/evil characters to have a reason as to why they're like that.
For a "dark" character example: I have a wolf character (in a PG13+ private rp) whom in his past, prior to the rp, was a perfect gentleman. He had a mate, whom he loved very much, and they were expecting their first litter. Then one night, while crossing a highway, the pair were hit by a hit-n-run driver. His mate and unborn pups died, and he himself, aside from the physical deformities from the accident, suffered a large amount of brain damage. The brain damage made him "dark"; he's unable to control when he swears, he has a twitch that makes him lick his chops sometimes, he's crude, he openly insults others, and he's unable to think thoughts without blurting them aloud. But the pack he's in begrudgingly accepts his presence, because he's helped save their tushies on more than one occasion.
This is surely an element people with pancake-killers don't like/bother to think out. They just want to be feared, without any of the work. XD
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I dunno, I generally filter through characters ingame while in F3 mode click on a few and they're generally..well...|D
I've also looked through the rp board here and mostly it's always things like "WARRIOR CATZ RP SUNSHINEFORESTFACE CLAN" or "HIGHSCHOOL ANIME RP" or "WOLF PACK OF THE STARSONG" or "FANTASY HIGHSCHOOL RP." I guess the only decent ones are private ones.
I have Ren, that I've mentioned a million times XD Ren's pretty much a manipulative bully who can be incredibly nasty if you make him angry.
And I also have another who could be classified as "evil" but not in the conventional sense. He's/It's a little demonic poltergeist type spirit who causes insomnia. He also doesn't speak. He chooses not to speak unless it involves scaring someone. He usually communicates via gestures and emotes in any rps he's in XD
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Here are some some characters that I had in the past:
Regui - he was once good, cruel sometimes, but good. To his family, his friends. A certain series of events affected him badly and became a strange and vicious cannibalistic beast. He had no memories of his family how ever he was oddly drawn to them. He stalked them and attacked them, attempting to devour them. He was eventually slayed, and returned as a broken soul, forgiven by the majority of his family but feeling uncomfortable around them.
Shinjitsu - a power hungry, lying and manipulative lion who cares for nothing but personal gain.
He hasn't been roleplayed much so he is not very developed.
Dune - he was powered to avenge his family and murder his brother who had betrayed them and caused the downfall of their empire. He is bitter and sarcastic, and has a heart filled with hate. Eventually the brothers made up but, but he's still not the best person around.
See? No super powers, no OMG EMU I KILLED MY MUMMY WHEN I WAS A CUB 8C Just some well thought out characters with good plots.
Evil characters have such a bad reputation because noobs try to play as them and they know nothing about character development, and they have no imagination and just copy the stereotypical evil characters.
I have to say though, one of the best bad guys of IT was Dante Donovan fo' sure B)
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Yeah, I don't know why people think that in order to have an evil character they MUST MUST MUST have some kind of super power.
Who's Dante if you don't mind me asking? XD; I never hung around the IT forums.
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Dante Donovan was played my Verycrazygirl and he was well known during the height of the Meurtrier and Blitzkrieg war. He was the dominant male of Meurtrier and was mates with KIller (played my Moonlight_tiger) who too was pretty well known for this. This was in 2008 and about the first half of 2009.
There were some other pretty well known characters that spawned up during that time which would be familiar to the oldies of IT XD
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Oh man, I don't have an evil character, will I ever fit in?
*runs off to make a sickly cliche evil guy*
He's black furred wolf with red. He killed his family because someone wouldn't own up to drinking the last glass of chocolate milk. Oh they paid. After the murder, he remembered that he was the one who drank the last of the chocolate milk, and he should ask his mom to get more. Only his mom isn't around anymore. At that time a dark faerie came up from hell and cursed him to live eternally until he can drink chocolate milk again. Every so often for no reason except when roleplay spotlight isn't on him, his multiple personalities start arguing, each one eviler than the last. Oh and he has a curse that causes his blood to be black and attack orphans without mercy. He can shatter rainbows with a glance, and children cannot sleep after being near him because his aura causes violent nightmares.
Oh and he smells like black roses and death.
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He's black furred wolf with red. He killed his family because someone wouldn't own up to drinking the last glass of chocolate milk. Oh they paid. After the murder, he remembered that he was the one who drank the last of the chocolate milk, and he should ask his mom to get more. Only his mom isn't around anymore. At that time a dark faerie came up from hell and cursed him to live eternally until he can drink chocolate milk again. Every so often for no reason except when roleplay spotlight isn't on him, his multiple personalities start arguing, each one eviler than the last. Oh and he has a curse that causes his blood to be black and attack orphans without mercy. He can shatter rainbows with a glance, and children cannot sleep after being near him because his aura causes violent nightmares.
Oh and he smells like black roses and death.
This. Is the best badguy ever. EVER.
He clearly needs to found his own pack of MPD chocolate milk-drink desperadoes. They'll roam Fluorite Planes, talking in caps all the time, and when someone tells them to stop, they'll engage in multi-personality rage warfare.
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Lulz that's funny because I've actually seen this happen lol. Or the sparkle dogs that are the gods of syrupy pancakes and their fighting on the plains over who's the best syrup covered pancake god :D
I think like with anything else, evil characters can be good with moderation. I've always disliked slipping into a group when it glitches and everyone's yelling about their horrible past, or whatever. xD
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I have a evil character that I don't use in FH (I don't think she would fit in) who's not really that evil. yes, she is a demon, because that fit's in with the story she was originally in. But I sure don't over use her abilities, or use it as an excuse for people to fear her (Her obsession with blood should, she'll find any way possible to see some blood) XD And she has a perfectly good reason as to why she is like that as well XD
What I am trying to say is that even if a evil character is a demon or super powered, doesn't mean they are the bad kind of evil characters, it all depends on how they are played.
(And her mother was killed as well, but she isn't emo... she got over it, like every other character that emo's over their mother dying should if they can't do evil well.)
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Dante Donovan was played my Verycrazygirl and he was well known during the height of the Meurtrier and Blitzkrieg war. He was the dominant male of Meurtrier and was mates with KIller (played my Moonlight_tiger) who too was pretty well known for this. This was in 2008 and about the first half of 2009.
There were some other pretty well known characters that spawned up during that time which would be familiar to the oldies of IT XD
Ah ok XD. The good ol' days XD
What I am trying to say is that even if a evil character is a demon or super powered, doesn't mean they are the bad kind of evil characters, it all depends on how they are played.
This is true too.
One of my friends has the Devil for a character and they don't make him smite and set things on fire and kill our OCs every few seconds. Or claw their faces off. Generally we just rp all our OCs as if they're..."normal"? Though then again we haven't been in any situations where powers and such were needed.
I have a Vampire OC (who I haven't rp'd with for a while :C ) who doesn't use his powers unless it's absolutely necessary. He tries to be as human as possible XD I guess that's kind of a cliche...but I dunno.
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I don't mind them at all, to be honest. I tend to use FH as a hang-out location with online friends on our private maps, so perhaps I haven't seen many 'evil' characters.
But really..I don't care! It's their character, and if they're having fun and enjoying the game, who minds :)
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They are Asian. -shot-
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i HAVE evil characters, but they just don't automatically choose that path, its how they are raised and life events, i usually only use my demon if someone in RP is trying to kill a friend when we did not do anything *puts a crown on xana and trigon* XD im just used to playing characters with a not so good past XD i have a fan fiction character for a code lyoko rp i had, and she has part of X.A.N.A in her, so she sometimes gets possessed, we where in a rp and well, i decided because we where bored for Xana come and try to take her over again, she ended up getting kicked out for "goddmodding and powerplaying" when all the others where elemental >.< and all i had was her getting possessed now and again
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...Asian? O_o
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I think another reason there are so many evil characters is because the night cycle runs so long and it makes the mind wander. :P I mean, most in-game time is spent at night. I have a few but mostly only use them around people that already know about them.
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They are Asian. -shot-
Ignore her, she's just a stupid troll.
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Yes, I have an "evil" character, but he's just a normal lion with a harsh past, thus he takes his anger out on others. A character can't be "evil" without a reason, otherwise they are unbelievable. Cagour, my lion, was weak growing up and was teased about his size, so he grew to fear weakness. It's his fear that causes him to act out in anger towards anyone else. No "I AM THE LORD OF DARKNESS WHO KILLS PANCAKES" here.
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To be ultra technical, true Psychopathic characters (not ones like ">8C I CLAWD UR FACE OFF BECOZ I'M A PSYCHO") do not particularly have any "reason" to be "evil". They pretty much kill/hurt/manipulate others "for the lulz"
"Researcher Robert Hare, whose Hare Psychopathy Checklist is widely used, describes psychopaths as "intraspecies predators".[19] Also R.I. Simon uses the word predator to describe psychopaths.[20] Elsewhere Hare and others write that psychopaths "use charisma, manipulation, intimidation, sexual intercourse and violence"[21][22][23][verification needed] to control others and to satisfy their own needs. Hare states that: "Lacking in conscience and empathy, they take what they want and do as they please, violating social norms and expectations without guilt or remorse".[24] He previously stated that: "What is missing, in other words, are the very qualities that allow a human being to live in social harmony".[25]" Wikapedia'd.
I think it'd take some skill to properly rp a Psychopath, since most people seem to overlook the key fact that they, under no circumstances, will randomly fall in love or be like "I'M CRAZY NO ONE LOVES ME". Or even care about others. Even if they care about one single being, it removes the Psychopathic trait.
Not to mention all the other traits that come with Psychopathy.
|D I think I'm looking into this too much.
BUT YES I do agree that those who are "nooby evil" and act "evil" without a set reason and aren't rped well are obnoxious.
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I do have an evil character as well. Only one.
My only unrealistic char, Fekete is a demon wolf o.O
But i do not play his character as a "omg im demon now getoutofmyway cause ill kill yah!!"
He is evil because he is a demon, and behaves like one as well.
I dont attack everyone who i see, or start killing everyone in a rp. It actually does take skill to keep your character 'in character' and evil. You dont become evil because you kill off a whole pack. But how you play that character, how he behaves and acts around others.
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Evil characters I see running around FeralHeart are not even ''awesome'' or ''epic'',they are just a fail.And the way they RP makes me wanna lol so hard.Haha NO.
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I've always assumed people make 'evil' characters for the same reason Sephiroth is so popular. Somehow 'evil' has become entirely associated with 'cool.' That's probably also the reason most evil characters are either dark colored, or black and red/neon. It doesn't really bother me, but I wish people would be a bit more creative if they're rping with an evil char. I mean, I've only ever made one evil char (hardly ever use him, so I doubt anyone's ever seen him), but he's not the "I am Shadow Deathblood, and I will kill ur family!" type. His name's Sascha, he's a smallish, unassuming off-white wolf, and he's pretty good at faking niceness until he can get someone alone and vulnerable. He has (somewhat) logical motivation for what he does. Course, I never use him because I've yet to find an rp with use for a subtle villain, but I keep hoping.
Anyway, my point is (sorry for the tangent) that it's not that hard to make an evil character original and semi-believable. It would be cool if more people did it.
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i have some sort of a talent to rp evil characters for some reason o.e but i never overdo them with power and everything, i mean, really? act like your all powerful and everything? i find that super annoying.
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I think truely "evil" character's don't announce it. I think its very subtle, like look up some serial killers, they don't look like the deranged mental patients that we like to rp. They look like your neighbor, or an elderly person, which can make it all the more creepy.
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Ritza has a good point there too.
How often do you see sparkly people also dressed in black and bright red with some kind of name like "GEORGE KILLBLOODRED" that are psychopaths? XD
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XD IDK, but most of my evil characters are not that evil to where they kill everyone in site, they usually get to know them and something triggers their killer side.
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George Killbloodred... I remember that famous serial killer, he was on that channel called. . . "my overactive imagination." I remember that show. It's my favorite. . . lol.
Yeah, I've stopped attempting "evil" characters, they come out wrong all the time. :/
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i guess you need skill to rp them XD
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XD George Killbloodred... now I have the strangest urge to make a character with that name and wander around Flourite.
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XD i'm just making a map for my pride the rejected o.e but i made a thread for them on here and strangly i got no replies for it. *shrugs* i guess im not liked very much on here.
ON TOPIC: eh, people who over abuse the evil thing i just block
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XDDDD Tonight on the crime channel: "George Killbloodred: The inside story of the sparkly serial killer."
Yeah, I don't have too many evil characters. Mostly because even though it's not real and just rp, every now and then I feel bad for the characters that have to deal with the evil one. Not to mention people taking things personally and seriously even when they know who/how he is D|
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Oh lord, the posts in this topic are hilarious XD
I do have one character who I guess you might call evil, Morrigan, a simple grey wolf. She find animals with beautiful pelts, befriends them, uses their trust to get close to them, then when their guard is down she skins them alive and hangs their pelt in her cave as her "treasures". She says she does it because she's jealous of them, but really she just enjoys it.
Dunno, she's really fun to rp with, lol XD And good lord I hate it when people god-mode evil characters, some of the most interesting rps I've had with Morrigan ended with her dying!
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Psychopaths are way more fun to play than evil characters c: so much more random and gives you a lot of directions to go in!
Personally, i like to look at both sides of "Evil" and "Good" characters. The "good guy" will see the bad guy as "bad guy" and the "bad guy" will see himself as the good guy and the good guy as the "bad guy".
Example 1: Voldemort thought he was doing the world good by ridding the world of Muggles and making the world all Pure-Blooded Wizards. He thought he was the good guy by "purifying" the world.
Example 2: Anakin Skywalker went over to the Dark Side and became a Sith because he wanted to protect Padme. He had the love of his life always in thought.
hope this made sense :D
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makes perfect sense XD
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Psychopaths are way more fun to play than evil characters c: so much more random and gives you a lot of directions to go in!
Personally, i like to look at both sides of "Evil" and "Good" characters. The "good guy" will see the bad guy as "bad guy" and the "bad guy" will see himself as the good guy and the good guy as the "bad guy".
Example 1: Voldemort thought he was doing the world good by ridding the world of Muggles and making the world all Pure-Blooded Wizards. He thought he was the good guy by "purifying" the world.
Example 2: Anakin Skywalker went over to the Dark Side and became a Sith because he wanted to protect Padme. He had the love of his life always in thought.
hope this made sense :D
In addition to that, I think a villain who has to kill off others for his/her own survival would be alright, sort of like the Youkai in Higanbana No Saku Yoru Ni. (They live off the belief of little children. If they stop being murderous and the children start to not believe in them anymore, they die.) Don't forget that not everyone is moral and sometimes a villain would think that killing off others would be alright because that's the way he/she was raised.
Well....did I make sense as well? :P
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Psychopaths are way more fun to play than evil characters c: so much more random and gives you a lot of directions to go in!
Personally, i like to look at both sides of "Evil" and "Good" characters. The "good guy" will see the bad guy as "bad guy" and the "bad guy" will see himself as the good guy and the good guy as the "bad guy".
Example 1: Voldemort thought he was doing the world good by ridding the world of Muggles and making the world all Pure-Blooded Wizards. He thought he was the good guy by "purifying" the world.
Example 2: Anakin Skywalker went over to the Dark Side and became a Sith because he wanted to protect Padme. He had the love of his life always in thought.
hope this made sense :D
In addition to that, I think a villain who has to kill off others for his/her own survival would be alright, sort of like the Youkai in Higanbana No Saku Yoru Ni. (They live off the belief of little children. If they stop being murderous and the children start to not believe in them anymore, they die.) Don't forget that not everyone is moral and sometimes a villain would think that killing off others would be alright because that's the way he/she was raised.
Well....did I make sense as well? :P
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Woah, that was a fast reply. :D
Don't forget about the villains who are misunderstanding something...remember that a villain has to have a reason for being considered "evil," it can't just be in their nature. With all the "villains" I see in FH...WOW. I mean, I only see characters that are evil "because they are." I mean, NONE of these guys give a reason to WHY they're exactly "evil."
Oh, and being colored with red and black doesn't mean you're always evil. Blue-furred or white-furred creatures can become evil too. In fact, anything can become evil....it's just that we all start out innocent.
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Evil characters... I personally don't remember the last time I've had an extra-evil character. Back in 09 probably lmao.
I don't mind them. I really don't, they even entertain me, as long as they have a decent story behind them and not, like someone mentioned, an evil character coming outta nowhere saying "I HAZ TRAUMAZ WEN I WAZ YOUNG, IM AN EVIL GUI AND I KEEL JOO ALL."
That just doesn't work. xD
In fact I even love evil characters. But as I've said, if you're gonna make an evil character, do it. Trolling around with it just... no. xD
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I don't mind them. I really don't, they even entertain me, as long as they have a decent story behind them and not, like someone mentioned, an evil character coming outta nowhere saying "I HAZ TRAUMAZ WEN I WAZ YOUNG, IM AN EVIL GUI AND I KEEL JOO ALL."
That just doesn't work. xD
In fact I even love evil characters. But as I've said, if you're gonna make an evil character, do it. Trolling around with it just... no. xD
^THAT.
Just because you had were in a bad mental condition doesn't mean you'll turn evil instantly. Evil doesn't come in a can, it has to build up most of the time. In fact, most people would get over it one point in their life.....you know, now that I think about it, most villains here on FH all sound like whiny emos now. XD
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XD agreed, and i guess my talent for rping evil characters comes from my ability of writing stories, for most of my characters are forced into working for an evil person, eventually turning to a *evil* or *Do what they think is right* characters. -shrugs- its also fun to rp them evil when you can rp them really good, it takes a lot of talent to rp a evil character, as stated before. ive also watched a lot of things with evil dudes so im like, used to being around them, watching them, rping them, rping with them ECT.
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I guess when I look at real criminals and those we truly call "evil" in real life, and then I look at these characters that have been passed off verbally as "evil" I think a puke a little bit in my mouth. For example:
I am Darth Vader, I am evil, I love flowers, and llamas, and Stacey's mom has got it going on, dude did you see her last night? Man, I wish I was that guy with her. . .FUUUUU UUUUU *stabstabstab* Dude that was fun, now lets go grab a beer. . .
^ Yeah no.
I think the unspoken aspect of evil is much better than some raging Darth Vader type figure.
Also with the harry potter villains thing, like he's not a sparkle animal that goes around killing people, his character has depth, the developmental stage is obviously there, and his creator sat down, and took time to write a story about why each character, and whatever house would be considered "evil" I never felt like (even though I greatly dislike Harry Potter) that the villains fell short. They reached their bar of "evil" without seeming completely fake. I think that might be the problem with RP characters that are "evil" people just don't take enough time to think past "I had a bad time with that girl so I killed her and now I kill you all."
Look at your life persay for instance, I'm sure we have all had a bad experience, and we aren't serial killing mass murders with a vendetta against grandma and grandpa. And if we are, they why does Earth still exist? :P
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I think that might be the problem with RP characters that are "evil" people just don't take enough time to think past "I had a bad time with that girl so I killed her and now I kill you all."
Look at your life persay for instance, I'm sure we have all had a bad experience, and we aren't serial killing mass murders with a vendetta against grandma and grandpa. And if we are, they why does Earth still exist? :P
I agree, I dunno if there's anything I can add xD
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For those honestly attempting evil characters out there there is an obvious explanation behind it in human psychology. All people have a need to be accepted and wanted. If we can't do that we find other means.
Evil characters are created by a user when they have a need for power. If they can not get respect from other users they make a "cool" evil character that will be respected in a role-play and/or by others in general. And through admiration of others who like the bad attitude of this evil character the user in mention will gain the attention they sought. The user originally may not have had friends but at least they are heard of and feel special with the evil character.
It's the simple human desire for companionship blown out of proportions! :D
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Evil characters are created by a user when they have a need for power. If they can not get respect from other users they make a "cool" evil character that will be respected in a role-play and/or by others in general. And through admiration of others who like the bad attitude of this evil character the user in mention will gain the attention they sought. The user originally may not have had friends but at least they are heard of and feel special with the evil character.
I have to disagree there, two of my closest friends have "evil" characters and they are not on a quest for power. Same goes for me too.
Unless you're referring to the nooby evil characters.
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Maybe they want characters with a lot of power?Not sure.
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Well a lot of People Like evil Characters Cause there Like Monsters Like from APocalpyse city Theres a Skinned Dog creature that hunts all the animals at night so It seems to Be fun to them and they Like the Monsters and Creatures and stuff.
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...lolwut? |D
Maybe they want characters with a lot of power?Not sure.
I think it depends on who's making the character. But then again there can be powerful good characters too.
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I'm going to be brutally honest and say most of them are laughable, mostly because they're generally along the lines of "I AM FIREDEATH. I CAN KILL YOU IN ONE SHOT. DO NOT MAKE ME MAD. RRRR." or "DONT SPEAK TO ME LIKE THAT. I AM A DEMON AND WILL KILL YOU. GET OUT." and finally "MY PARENTS DIED IN A FIRE AND MY PACK HAS DED. SO I GOT ANGRY AND NOW I'M EVIL DON'T TOUCH ME OR YOU WILL DIE."
I don't think I've seen any decent evil characters at all O_o aside from my friend's and mine. (And when I say decent I mean not what I mentioned above).
Although it is fun to rp back at them and watch them run away because you don't bow down to them |DDD. This one time, some random threw a tantrum because Ren wouldn't accept the rabbit they caught and dumped infront of him. He got the "DONT DISOBEY ME. EAT THE RABBIT. I AM THE GOD OF DESTRUCTION." ordeal. Ren thought it was hilarious and kept laughing at them and they ended up cracking a hissy fit and running away because Ren couldn't take them seriously.
I think what Slycan means is that...you can be mean and cruel, however since it's strictly between characters/IC and not 'OOC' it's not ban-able because it's not you yourself speaking.
....I think evil characters are an odd, yet headachy way of venting. Back in the TEF days, I'd organise fights/get permission from others for Ren to uh "be Ren" against and it kind of felt like a digital stress ball XD; however I never did this often since Ren has a bad habit of wanting to kill others that make him angry >_>; which of course I can't do for obvious reasons.
Evil characters are appealling because they go against the norm and give off the "rebel" and "bad boy" vibes which most people seem to like.
Mutaclone is a decent evil character, he's not even canine/feline originally, he's a bipedal mechanical dolphinmonster with incomplete programming but yet an advanced AI. He lacks most everything on the positive side of the emotional spectrum and is often spiteful towards landwalking creatures and humans, since he was never originally one. He often thinks of him and his species as superior. (because creating floating water tubes several miles over land definately makes you superior).
He abandoned his clan after he was defeated before becoming a landwalker. his conscious being can be moved from one body to another manually. He's a real fun guy to roleplay but due to his unnatural strengths/lack of weaknesses, i often don't. he's the adopted older brother to my main character Motoko (who is humanoid).
There is much more of a past to Mutaclone, but i often don't tell the entire thing, that's yours to find out via request.
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becuase evil charrys have that happy-go-lucky cackle to them and the sassy comebacks! Tho im not saying Maya was evil, she is just a sassy pants! XD
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i can be a good evil character i don't go around saying touch me and die, that's of course when im not hyper and jokeing around. But you can normally find be chasing around friends yelling DIIIIIEEEEE for no reason XD
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How ironic that one SIMPLE thing changes a character (varies upon situation).
Dark is now more mellow. ...in her own way, since now found a mate (little over two weeks since then) but besides the point.
-Though you guys make subtle points (too lazy to read all posts from here), at least they aren't as bad as those "Gods" back in The Temple of Dreams. I mean really. C'mon. I may not be religious (no offense) but one (or six) gods is enough. Don't need to make twenty of them. Sorry if it seems off-topic but someone mentioned "God of excreta" and I had to add.
-don't know where this post would go, so I decided here is legit (unless somewhere else it fits...then move it.)
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I think the word evil is being overused, I have a Lynx called Style, who isn't "evil" persay, but has some very VERY nasty characteristics and habits and is just unpleasant to be around as well as that little bit dangerous. Evil is a label, not so much a being =3
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I find evil characters to be weird although most of the time, it's to do with how it's played out. It's especially annoying when these evil characters have a family which are somehow invincible because they're nearby (and i am referrencing someone who regulars the Temple of Dreams here) and is an all powerful being who hears everything, see's everything etc.
My character, Martok (created after my first, Sarkardo, died saving a friend (yes, i do RP death) after getting massive burns by jumping through a closing portal) is semi-evil in that his powers are evil, the power of physical entity manipulation so he can move stuff, change its size, shape, density etc and basically kill very quickly, and very slowly but he needs to see the target (the limitation I created so he isn't some uber powerful wolf), but once you get past his hard outer shell of 'oh...hi, what you want' etc, he's a really nice character and if you REALLY earn his trust, he will give his life to save yours if needed, like he did last night or at least, almost gave his life but saved the life of his now mate. However, he avoids killing and usually just maims to incapacity and then leaves then or helps them a bit so they don't die.
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When people have so called evil characters, I think they think it's their ticket to easy god-moding and control. My thought of evil is something so despicable, that I, if faced with it, would do everything within my power to destroy it, and this is in RL. If you want to have a "truly evil" character in FH, don't expect me to take it seriously. A made up character cannot be truly evil, however much someone tries. Tis a virtual world and therefore, the limits are endless but also, not really there but are there in a sense.
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A made up character cannot be truly evil, however much someone tries. Tis a virtual world and therefore, the limits are endless but also, not really there but are there in a sense.
I'm not sure what you mean by that. I'm taking it two ways:
The first is that you're saying that the only thing stopping characters from being truely evil is the fact that they aren't real and cannot harm people in real life?
And the second is that; or are you saying that absolutely no fictional characters can be "truely evil"? Even the ones that are well thought out psychopaths/murderers/manipulators/etc?
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A made up character cannot be truly evil, however much someone tries. Tis a virtual world and therefore, the limits are endless but also, not really there but are there in a sense.
I'm not sure what you mean by that. I'm taking it two ways:
The first is that you're saying that the only thing stopping characters from being truely evil is the fact that they aren't real and cannot harm people in real life?
And the second is that; or are you saying that absolutely no fictional characters can be "truely evil"? Even the ones that are well thought out psychopaths/murderers/manipulators/etc?
What I mean is that they can't really hurt anyone how ever hard you try. A virtual world can be bent to your will but you cannot bend others to your will. So as much as you would like to your character to be truly evil, it's probably never going to happen, especially if no-one else regards your character as such =3
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Oh ok yeah. Evil Noobs can open up the ground and slash your face in, but it only affects your OC if you want it to. It's more funny when you don't let it affect them, obviously XD
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You guys go so in-depth with this. xDD
I've had a few evil characters myself. It does indeed make a great rp story if you rp it realistically, with odds that make sense.
Almost like, if an evil character recruits other evil characters to go up against someone. (Lol. TLK flashbacks)
What I really hate is how some people have evil characters and because of that, they think their character has to win the rp battle or whatever they're up against.
Also, sparklen00bs and their oh so bad characters. xD
and the powerplayers who maul entire continents without a single scratch laid upon themselves.
I could go on and on..... x'D
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@Draak, yesums, tis true :D Things only happen if you let them XD
@Feartherface =3 Indeed you speak truely and you've touched upon what I said eariler, it seems to give the players a silly idea that said evil character is an easy permission slip to godmode. You are too epic XD
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*backontopic* Yeah they can be well done. LOL +karma
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Ironic eh? xDDD
*wanders back on topic*
Evil characters!
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Neva, Ritzie, Neva XDD
And wow, woman. You has epicness and yes, back on topic
TEH EVILZ!
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I have many so called "evil" characters. And that's just because I'm always (when I watch movies, when I read books, etc.) on the side of the "evil" characters. They are not so extremly happy all the time and they have something to fight for (most time). I have a Stone Demon charry which is very aggressive to people he does not know. And a soul eating Water Demon. And a Shinigami who hates his job. Even my main char Whitetail has a VERY bloody past but turned to the good side after meeting his mate Eden. And, and, and~...
Really: if someone wants to play a character which is evil, there are two ways of reaction:
1. You at least try to accept his/her way of RPing and maybe he/she just wants to play a character who turns good after something special? Yeah, maybe it's really just a nooby bored kid but how do you know? :/ And if so, reaction 2:
2. Tell him/her to leave you alone. If not: block. Even if the Report-button does not work. The Block-button does.
I don't see the big deal~
Imagine a Lion King RP without Scar or bloodthirsty yenas... [ironic]uuuuhhhh~ must be very very cool.[/ironic] |'D
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I think you should only make evil characters for an rp that you got permision to. No one likes an outlaw running around killing people, i used to be a Police Dog patroling Bonfire before i retired, i still ocassianly go on her, but when i patrol bonfire, i am not looking for stupid outlaws trying to killl people, i look for pups who need parents or people who are hurt.
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I have a few characters which (In my opinion) I don't classify as "evil". Almost none of my characters are evil, but I can say that most of 'em are unstable psychopaths who enjoy a good brutal battle (And of course with good ol' sadistic humor) every once in a while. Not evil. Just, mentally unstable to the point of disembowelment. They're actually moderately normal, fun (and love dancing) but when you set them off they go berserk. The thing is, they're so nice, you'd have to be evil (or a jerk XD) to set 'em off. Whoever triggers their violent emotions usually have it coming to them.
Though, what bugs me is when people claim to be "all powerful" but when it comes down to a battle they're too afraid to drag it on, so they one shot you X'D after a good minute of fighting..I find it ironic.
I can admit, I have seen some pretty decent evil characters who have had lots of planning with their chara's which I admire.