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Game Discussion / Re: General chat, What's it for?
« on: May 30, 2011, 10:21:27 am »
"They are rules that everyone should know by now and if you don't you'll learn the hard way." <--- Sorry, I believe I LOLed in real right there.
For starters, as everyone has thus far mentioned and still received no word about; Where exactly is the rule that says General chat is only and strictly for advertising? Do point me in the right direction, because I assure you I cannot seem to find it.
Wait, I know. It's because there is no rule on the specific use of General chat. Not a one, and not posted anywhere on the forum for anyone else to see. Yet, people are banned for 'Spamming' the chat with conversations/talk/greetings/ect? It goes back to my last point, how do you expect a rule to be obeyed when it isn't posted nor widely known? No warning, nothing in the rules updated. This would automatically make us question the legit reason for just one person banning people for said 'spam', would it not?
"I've actually seemed to have known the rules for you could say a rather long time now, and I don't see any of the rules stating that we should "use" General this way, or that way. It doesn't really make sense. There's nothing posted about how it should even be, and it's mainly like a free for all. Nobody, just saying that not even one simple mod, should try and change that. This whole fight is just pathetically stupid." ~Quote from Doggersdog
Stupid indeed. We're arguing over the right that someone had to ban multiple players for using a chat in a way they deemed to be breaking the rules. When in fact no such rule can be found anywhere on the forum or the ToS. Do you honestly believe it's fair to fling a random restriction into the mix of something that has always been, at least as long as I remember playing the game? And then suddenly ban for breaking that restriction, even though no previous issues had arose?
This isn't about people being banned for breaking a rule. This is about the fact that there is no rule in regards to the certain use of General. Yet it is perfectly fine to eliminate players like they're nothing when they defile those invisible laws?
We aren't brainless, and we aren't stupid. It's not hard to see where one person's preferences corrupts everyone close to them, and push the ones fighting back against the wrong done toward them farther away. We no longer have a voice, the argument has become one sided. It's us, the players, against them, the one person responsible and the people that support them blindly due to friendship.
Is it really too much to ask that a proper rule be put in place, before someone goes off and bans people for every tedious thing possible? Would it really be that hard to let the rule sink in before you start flinging people left and right for breaking rules they weren't aware were intact? As others have mentioned, would it not be an advancement to create guidelines for punishments when breaking rules? And post those guidelines for us the players to see as well? As most Admins and mods have thus said, punishments vary between each individual. Someone cursing might get banned for an hour, another an entire week. Where is the equality in that? You can't tell me that the staff cannot compromise on punishments which are fair and just for whatever is done. It's not hard, and it doesn't require a major amount of effort. So where's your excuse, other than some still preferring to show the usual favoritism with their buddy buds and people that worship the ground they walk on?
Sorry, never been one of those people. Respect rolls two ways, and if you can't show equal respect for all, then why would you deserve mine? Until something is done to right the wrong, I won't be back in game. Not even when my ban time is up, I refuse to be part of such a community as to call itself great, when it's splitting apart at the seams.
~Onai.
For starters, as everyone has thus far mentioned and still received no word about; Where exactly is the rule that says General chat is only and strictly for advertising? Do point me in the right direction, because I assure you I cannot seem to find it.
Wait, I know. It's because there is no rule on the specific use of General chat. Not a one, and not posted anywhere on the forum for anyone else to see. Yet, people are banned for 'Spamming' the chat with conversations/talk/greetings/ect? It goes back to my last point, how do you expect a rule to be obeyed when it isn't posted nor widely known? No warning, nothing in the rules updated. This would automatically make us question the legit reason for just one person banning people for said 'spam', would it not?
"I've actually seemed to have known the rules for you could say a rather long time now, and I don't see any of the rules stating that we should "use" General this way, or that way. It doesn't really make sense. There's nothing posted about how it should even be, and it's mainly like a free for all. Nobody, just saying that not even one simple mod, should try and change that. This whole fight is just pathetically stupid." ~Quote from Doggersdog
Stupid indeed. We're arguing over the right that someone had to ban multiple players for using a chat in a way they deemed to be breaking the rules. When in fact no such rule can be found anywhere on the forum or the ToS. Do you honestly believe it's fair to fling a random restriction into the mix of something that has always been, at least as long as I remember playing the game? And then suddenly ban for breaking that restriction, even though no previous issues had arose?
This isn't about people being banned for breaking a rule. This is about the fact that there is no rule in regards to the certain use of General. Yet it is perfectly fine to eliminate players like they're nothing when they defile those invisible laws?
We aren't brainless, and we aren't stupid. It's not hard to see where one person's preferences corrupts everyone close to them, and push the ones fighting back against the wrong done toward them farther away. We no longer have a voice, the argument has become one sided. It's us, the players, against them, the one person responsible and the people that support them blindly due to friendship.
Is it really too much to ask that a proper rule be put in place, before someone goes off and bans people for every tedious thing possible? Would it really be that hard to let the rule sink in before you start flinging people left and right for breaking rules they weren't aware were intact? As others have mentioned, would it not be an advancement to create guidelines for punishments when breaking rules? And post those guidelines for us the players to see as well? As most Admins and mods have thus said, punishments vary between each individual. Someone cursing might get banned for an hour, another an entire week. Where is the equality in that? You can't tell me that the staff cannot compromise on punishments which are fair and just for whatever is done. It's not hard, and it doesn't require a major amount of effort. So where's your excuse, other than some still preferring to show the usual favoritism with their buddy buds and people that worship the ground they walk on?
Sorry, never been one of those people. Respect rolls two ways, and if you can't show equal respect for all, then why would you deserve mine? Until something is done to right the wrong, I won't be back in game. Not even when my ban time is up, I refuse to be part of such a community as to call itself great, when it's splitting apart at the seams.
~Onai.